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Trump says Obama wiretapped his campaign, Joy Reid laughs it off

Trump says Obama wiretapped his campaign, Joy Reid laughs it off

“It is sort of funny, but it is sort of disturbing, as well.”

What’s the proper response to allegations that the administration of a President of the United States wiretapped the campaign of the candidate of the opposing party? Why, laughter, of course . . . if you’re Joy Reid and her merry band of liberals. On her show this morning, mirth was repeatedly on the menu during a segment regarding the allegation that the FBI, under President Obama, wiretapped members of the Trump campaign in the month leading up to the election.

Interviewing a Dem congressman, Reid chortled as she asked “does it disturb you a little bit that the President of the United States doesn’t know that the President of the United States doesn’t order wiretaps?” Right. It’s the FBI. A part of the executive branch whose head is . . . the President of the United States.

And when Reid heard another guest laughing, she turned to him: “because you’re laughing, I have to turn to you. It is sort of funny, but it is sort of disturbing, as well.”

Reid couldn’t help but raise the issue in the next segment, about The Apprentice. Reid was unable to suppress a laugh as she spoke of Trump “accusing the former President of the United States of wire-tapping.”

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Note: the Breitbart article that Reid dismissed as “conspiracy theories” contained the allegation that, under President Obama, the FBI twice sought FISA-court approval to wiretap the Trump campaign. The same allegations appear in this National Review column and this Guardian article.

Note segundo: in a supremely absurd and illogical statement, Reid says “Barack Obama is not President of the United States. How could he have a coup against Donald Trump?” Um, Ms. Reid: the very notion of a coup is that people out of power mount them against people who are in power.  Is your theory that coups can only be mounted by sitting presidents? Who would they mount them against—themselves?

JOY REID: Does it disturb you a little bit that the President of the United States doesn’t know that the President of the United States [chortles] doesn’t order wiretaps?

REP. ERIC SWALWELL: It surprises me, but it doesn’t surprise me that 30 minutes later, he was tweeting about The Apprentice.

REID: He did tweet about Arnold: we’re going to get to that, too. Because you’re laughing, I have to turn to you. It is sort of funny, but is it sort of disturbing as well. Donald Trump got up really early this morning to retweet what appears to be conspiracy theories that he may have gotten from Breitbart.com,

. . .

And it’s a story that is titled, Mark Levin, who I believe is the same radio host, “Mark Levin to Congress: investiage Obama’s ‘silent coup vs. Trump.” Barack Obama is not President of the United States? How could he have a coup against Donald Trump?

NAVEED JAMALI: I don’t even know how to respond to this. This is so crazy, that all I can say, Joy, is we have to keep our eye on the Russian question. That’s it! The rest of it is just distractions.

REID: You’re absolutely right.

. . .

REID: So this is weird. Donald Trump, this morning in his tweet storm, when he wasn’t accusing the former President of the United States of wiretapping [tries to suppress laugh] Trump Tower [chortles], was attacking Arnold Schwarzenegger.

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/10/fbi-chief-given-dossier-by-john-mccain-alleging-secret-trump-russia-contacts
The Guardian has learned that the FBI applied for a warrant from the foreign intelligence surveillance (Fisa) court over the summer in order to monitor four members of the Trump team suspected of irregular contacts with Russian officials. The Fisa court turned down the application asking FBI counter-intelligence investigators to narrow its focus. According to one report, the FBI was finally granted a warrant in October, but that has not been confirmed, and it is not clear whether any warrant led to a full investigation.
One, this FISA warrant is likely illegal since it involves a crime and not national security. More on that later.
Two, the President can order ask for national security taps. In fact numerous agencies can, way too many. Ms Reid id a dolt and has always been one.

Re the crime. Discussing election strategy with anyone from another country is not a crime. Coordinating campaign activities with someone overseas is not a crime. Accepting money for campaign activities and engaging in a crime to further one’s campaign is a crime. But no one has accused Trump of colluding to hack the DNC or Podesta. The RNC’s computers were also targeted four times, and Trump was clearly as surprised by as anyone else by the Podesta emails and hardly used them effectively in his campaign. He remained on the course already in place.

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to puhiawa. | March 4, 2017 at 4:20 pm

    Notice how those “Them” criminals, as all criminals,
    set up an alibi before perpetrating the crimes….

Let’s focus on the Russian question.The media has to keep its fake news priorities straight.

How dare Trump interfere with real news.

    inspectorudy in reply to JOHN B. | March 4, 2017 at 1:58 pm

    This is exactly the Dems did! After Trump’s great uplifting speech the left and the msm went into full overdrive on the non-existent Russian story. Guess what? Absolutely no one is talking about Trump’s great speech. The Dems and the msm do this on every bit of good news for Trump.

Not knowing how to respond simply means the talking points have not been developed yet.

Trump is wise to allow them to respond before he discusses the evidence.

    casualobserver in reply to Petrushka. | March 4, 2017 at 12:58 pm

    He must have decided that a key part of his “communication” effort is to keep the media frenzy well fed. Past presidents – all of them politicians – have almost exclusively gone dormant or simply not engaged their communications teams much when confronted with negative news. Trump – a polished politician in the business sense/world – has decided to directly confront and to allow much to be the equivalent of front page news. As each is discredited and defused (and most are), his poll numbers rise.

    He doesn’t even have his cabinet in place nor hardly 20% of his executives to carry out his agenda. Thanks to the Dems in Congress. Yet his playing the media like a Stradivarius is working to his benefit. The only question is can it continue to work effectively?

      notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to casualobserver. | March 4, 2017 at 4:34 pm

      So we come to the age old question about Trump’s strategy with the nattering nabobs of negativism………

      “If there is no one in the woods to hear the MSM…..er…burp….does it make any sound at all then?”

      Trumps been cutting them off at the knees and making them eat their own crows so far……. – ever since that escalator ride in Summer ’15……

Connivin Caniff | March 4, 2017 at 1:15 pm

Such wiretapping would help explain a lot of things, such as why a Supreme Court Justice would write a bizarre opinion saving Obamacare, and why many Republican officials seem so pusillanimous in the face of continual Democratic overreaching.

Nixon attempts to wiretap political enemies. Press goes nuts.
Obama successfully wiretaps political enemies. Press goes silent.

Minor difference?

Curious if the intense effort to get Session to recuse himself from pretty much everything or better yet RESIGN is because he is a law and order type AND an obama appointee would handle the appointment of any special prosecutor?

    Liz in reply to bt1. | March 4, 2017 at 1:34 pm

    Sessions needs to start getting his own attorneys in there and kick out all of the Obama appointees.

I think that there are a lot of stories that have been researched and are ready to be dropped at a moment’s notice. However, the Ds did not do enough research on the Sessions issue and did not anticipate the swift reaction to the visiting Russian Ambassador story.

On this wiretapping issue, there were early stories on it in 2016 and then in January 2017. Mark Levin just talked about it, then Bret Baier interviewed Ryan who had a slight hesitation on replying to the wiretap point. Was he trying to figure out if he could disclose the information? His answer was a non-answer.

Session’s statement on stepping away from any Trump/Russian investigation mentioned that his staff had been discussing this for a while. So, did Trump’s team have finally have access to the information to confirm the wiretap?

The game continues and Ds are now scrambling. The story is away from Sessions. However, the story is also away from actions that the Trump Administration is doing (budget cuts at EPA, Interior action on lead ammo in parks, delaying the CA grant for the train, etc). By the time the MSM reports on that stuff, it will be “old news”.

Of course, the tweets were done on Saturday am when everyone is out of town, but the story will be on all of the Sunday shows.

Would it be appropriate time to question why Obama relaxed the rules around the sharing of NSA data with other agencies? Would Trump want to reverse that particular rule change?

    murkyv in reply to Liz. | March 4, 2017 at 7:06 pm

    Relaxing the rules on NSA data made it easier for them to make the claim that “all 17” security agencies agree that Russia fiddled in the election.

inspectorudy | March 4, 2017 at 2:02 pm

Just watching and hearing the three idiots in the video make me sick to my stomach! The thought that scum like this gets to even be on TV except as a comedy trio is even more disgusting. Who, in a conscious state, would allow them to be on live TV let alone PAY them to do so?

Obama’s problem is that the accusation is totally believable.

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to Same Same. | March 4, 2017 at 4:39 pm

    “What did President Obama know and when did President Obama know it?” – all illegally though……

Reality is destroying the Anti-Trump narrative.

Look, the Dems started out to do to Trump what they did to GW Bush. That was to link him to unpopular nations. In Bush’s case, they inferred that he had, and accused him of having, strong ties to Saudi Arabia which gave preferential treatment to Saudi interests. To make this seem sinister, they cast Saudi Arabia as a villain. They are doing the same thing to Trump. But, this time, it is Russia. In both cases, the nations involved do have involvement in activities which are not in the best interests of the US. But, both are influential business centers for American interests. And, in both cases, the President or members of his administration, coming from the business community, had business relations with the country involved. And, so far, no evidence has been found that shows that either country had any significant influence upon the politicians in question.

The electronic surveillance of Trump and his campaign was done solely to harvest embarrassing material to be used against candidate Trump. Apparently none was found or was released. And, if a criminal investigation against a candidate for President, when solid evidence of criminal wrongdoing existed, or electronic invasion of a candidate or political party engaged in a Presidential campaign [Democrats] is a heinous crime on a par with child molestation, then the government surveillance of the Trump campaign should be just as heinous. Especially if any intelligence garnered as a result of that surveillance was, or will be, used against Trump or his administration. But, of curse it isn’t. Because only Republicans can commit a Watergate violation. At least in the minds of some people. Gotta love a double standard.

And, being the President at the time of the occurrence, Obama hols ultimate responsibility for this action, either directly or indirectly.

    Liz in reply to Mac45. | March 4, 2017 at 5:16 pm

    The Ds have already set up the concept that Obama would not know the exact details. How many times did he say that he read about some scandal?

    Obama blamed Bush for most of his years and the press will blame Trump for anything that happens. For example, the deportations are blamed on Trump, even though many of the people have been in detention for a while.

    If they can, they’ll find some way to blame Trump for obtaining the FISA warrants, not the Obama administration.

Keep laughing, stupid

Former affirmative action president and community organizer low achiever out of high office versus The Donald in high office: this is going to be good.

Onions are smarter than joy reid and prettier.

Paul In Sweden | March 4, 2017 at 5:41 pm

“It is sort of funny, but it is sort of disturbing, as well.” that the Obama administration used the IRS, FEC and other agencies to suppress his opposition in order to gain re-election. We will see where the wire tapping stands when the FISA applications and investigations have been clarified.

Notice that Obama didn’t deny it happened, he just denied giving the order.

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