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Joy Reid Guest: Trump ‘Pushing Nation to Constitutional Crisis of Unprecedented Magnitude’

Joy Reid Guest: Trump ‘Pushing Nation to Constitutional Crisis of Unprecedented Magnitude’

Malcolm Nance: Trump is working ‘in the interest of a hostile nation’

Appearing on Joy Reid’s MSNBC show, intelligence and national security commentator Malcolm Nance said this morning that Donald Trump is “pushing this nation to a constitutional crisis of unprecedented magnitude.” Nance accused Trump of working “in the interest of a hostile nation and supporting, to a certain extent, a hostile intelligence service.”

Nance was reacting to Trump’s reluctance to give a full-throated acceptance of the views of the US intelligence community regarding Russian hacking. Nance predicted that Trump will attempt a cover-up and will “gut” the intelligence agencies.

Charging the President-elect with working “in the interest of a hostile nation” and attempting a cover-up certainly sounds like an accusation of high crimes and misdemeanors, as suggested by his view that we are moving to an unprecedented constitutional crisis. Guess the honeymoon ended early!

MALCOLM NANCE: When Donald Trump made his statement on July 27th of last year where he asked for Russia to hack Hillary Clinton and release her emails, at that point he went from being an unwitting useful idiot to Russia to actually believing that they were working in his, in his favor. And to admit that now in the face of all the evidence, he would believe that this would delegitimize his presidency.

So he’s going to fight to the end to not allow this to become a narrative. I suspect in two weeks he’s going to attempt to cover this all up and even gut the intelligence community. Where he is going is he’s pushing this nation to a constitutional crisis of unprecedented magnitude, because no one has ever worked in the interest of a hostile nation and supporting, to a certain extent, a hostile intelligence service.

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Interesting sand castle you’ve built there. Oh, here comes the tide…

This is what it’s going to be like for the next 8 years 🙂

For eight years, Obama gutted the intelligence and armed service communities and supported every enemy state against US interests. But that was okay – he was bringing hope and change.

We knew the MSM and Dems would act hypocritically, but they have exceeded all expectations and Trump is not even in office yet.

What next? Playing golf will now become an impeachable offense.

    Cleetus in reply to JOHN B. | January 8, 2017 at 7:46 am

    Obama did not gut these agencies. Instead, he eliminated everyone who was not ideologically pure enough. In the military, almost every senior officer who was not a raging, effeminate, liberal was removed and, the more of a leader they were, the more quickly they were removed. Agencies such as NASA were transformed by having those who wholeheartedly believed in global warming placed throughout senior levels of the administration. The same occurred in EPA, DOJ, IRS, and elsewhere.
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    The result we now face is not a government that has been gutted, rather it is a government filled with appointees who passed Obama’s ideological purity test. We can put new leaders into these agencies to run them, but until these ideologically pure, driven, and committed individuals are removed, all work emanating from these agencies will be tainted and questionable.

And we should pay attention to these people and the media, why?

    snopercod in reply to Anchovy. | January 7, 2017 at 8:37 pm

    Exactly. I appreciate that Mark watches MSNBC so we don’t have to, but really…

      Henry Hawkins in reply to snopercod. | January 7, 2017 at 9:02 pm

      Ah, but we do have to watch MSNBC by virtue of a constant stream of episode rehashes. I really hate to see an otherwise fine writer turn himself into a one trick pony.

        Tom Servo in reply to Henry Hawkins. | January 7, 2017 at 10:48 pm

        I think all this wailing and howling and gnashing of teeth on the part of the left is pretty funny, and definitely worth pointing out.

        It’s still 2 weeks before Trump is even Prez, so there’s really not a lot of real news to talk about outside of the daily Congressional shenanigans. Which are really the same every day, with only the issues interchanged occasionally to give some semblance of novelty.

          Henry Hawkins in reply to Tom Servo. | January 8, 2017 at 3:27 pm

          Yesterday nobody heard of Malcolm Nance. Tommorrow everyone will have forgotten Malcolm Nance. He has had and will have zero influence on anything. Malcolm Nance is not a story.

        ” I really hate to see an otherwise fine writer turn himself into a one trick pony.”

        We should all sit in the echo chamber…

        Seeing the loons on the other side is a good thing on occasion. Someone has to do that dirty job.

        Mark does it well, IMO.

          Henry Hawkins in reply to Barry. | January 8, 2017 at 8:07 pm

          Of course he does it well, and I’ve called him a fine writer. But there is zero mystery on how the left thinks and acts, and half the commenters here could do as good a job rehashing Morning Joe episodes or whatever. Who needs more info on how the left thinks? His focus solves a problem that doesn’t exist.

    alaskabob in reply to Anchovy. | January 7, 2017 at 8:41 pm

    Sorry…hit the down thumb when trying to tap the reply…. Unfortunately a large percentage of mis-informed and dis-informed Americans believe this garbage and will act on it. The Left is pumping their base to act …. having seen rent a mobs used by the Dems…. they need to justify their actions to the larger easily swayed members of the Party. Somewhere the Dem Politburo…. the central organ of the DNC is steering all of this …. they are dangerous …not because they are correct…but because this is part of the foundation from which to act.

      Tom Servo in reply to alaskabob. | January 7, 2017 at 10:55 pm

      Not as many as you might think, which is why the dems have to use rent-a-mobs anytime they want a demonstration. To coin a phrase, Joy Reid represents the ghetto of cable news.

      None of them, maybe not even the intelligence services themselves, have to come to grips with the fact that in 2 weeks, they are going to be TRUMP’s intelligence services. And Trump is not going to be someone like GWB, who never had a clue as to how to deal with disloyalty in the ranks.

      re: his order to all political ambassadors to clean out their offices by Jan 21. A lot of them are butthurt about it – too bad!

    Rick in reply to Anchovy. | January 7, 2017 at 11:09 pm

    Why, you ask, Anchovy: Because he is a “intelligence and national security commentator.”

I do not know a single computer professional that actually believes the “Russians hacked the election” tall tale. John McAfee himself clearly states that this is absolutely not the case.

https://youtu.be/E7t5zbKnvQk

Since when is it a “constitutional crisis” for a President to NOT believe doubtful data?

The swamp rats are angry!

I’d like to see that guy on Tucker Carlson’s show.

Sometimes, these really wacky claims are interesting, in the sense that any puzzle is interesting. Where did it go wrong? That weirdo who recently announced that North Carolina is no longer a “democracy”, for instance; he actually has an argument—not a good one, but at least he has one—and it’s interesting, as an exercise, to consider for a few seconds where the guy’s train of thought went off the rails and over the cliff.

But not in this case. This guy is just a dumb ****-shoveller. An embarrassment to even Affirmative Action.

So gutting the intelligence services causes a constitutional crisis. Does the name Frank Church ring a bell? Nothing Trump does can possibly top the damage that man did to US intelligence.

If acting in the interests of a hostile nation counts then please tell me how you describe the Democratic Party’s response to the North Vietnamese invasion of the South in late ’74, and its point-blank refusal to stand by the US’s solemn commitment to the South.

If inviting foreign intervention in an election is some sort of crime, please describe Kennedy’s letter to Brezhnev in ’84.

    userpen in reply to Milhouse. | January 7, 2017 at 9:00 pm

    Thank you for the informative post Milhouse.

    Ragspierre in reply to Milhouse. | January 8, 2017 at 9:02 am

    “Nothing Trump does can possibly top the damage that man did to US intelligence.”

    That’s simply not true. Not saying he will, or that I even expect it, but he certainly COULD top Church’s damage.

      Milhouse in reply to Ragspierre. | January 8, 2017 at 2:24 pm

      I didn’t write “nothing Trump can do”. Trump is about to be president, and therefore obviously will be able to do more damage than a mere senator managed. But not by accident; to outdo Church he’d have to be damaging the USA on purpose, out of actual malice, and so far I have seen nothing to indicate that Trump actively hates the USA. Even our current president, who does hate the USA, has done remarkably little damage. So if you like read “Nothing Trump does” as “Nothing Trump will do”, or “Nothing Trump is even remotely likely to do”.

        “Even our current president, who does hate the USA, has done remarkably little damage.”

        Given Hillary Clinton’s giving Libya to Isis, Egypt’s crisis caused by Clinton (and resulting coup), abandoning Iraq to Isis and Iran, allowing China to take over the China Sea, allowing the Russians to run amok for the past several years, Obama’s de facto gift of atomic bombs to Iran, Obama’s abandonment of America’s greatest ally in the Middle East (Israel) and Obama’s abrogating the US as a force in the free world – sure, he’s done AMAZING damage.

          He’s done great damage to the world, not to the USA. The damage he’s done to the USA has been remarkably limited and restrained, compared to how much damage a malicious president can do.

        “Even our current president, who does hate the USA, has done remarkably little damage.”

        Given Hillary Clinton’s giving Libya to Isis, Egypt’s crisis caused by Clinton (and resulting coup), abandoning Iraq to Isis and Iran, allowing China to take over the China Sea, allowing the Russians to run amok for the past several years, Obama’s de facto gift of atomic bombs to Iran, Obama’s abandonment of America’s greatest ally in the Middle East (Israel) and Obama’s abrogating the US as a force in the free world, feminizing and gutting our military – he’s done INCREDIBLE damage.

John McAfee is not exactly someone you should be quoting. He’s mentally unstable and a conspiracy nut.

I was in the Navy with this self-aggrandizing blowhard. If he wants to use terms like “useful idiot,” he should be looking in the mirror.

Dan Ellsberg was unavailable for comment.

“When Donald Trump made his statement on July 27th of last year where he asked for Russia to hack Hillary Clinton and release her emails …”

Don’t you wish one of these self-appointed know-it-all’s would get a quote right, even just once in a while? Trump’s 27 July comment was made after the Russian (??) hack had already gone down; Trump was not encouraging any hacking, just stating his hope that the hackers, whoever they might be, could find about 30,000 misplaced (cough) emails. Nance isn’t even a DNC “useful idiot”.

Just an idiot.

Joy Reid is a deranged, race-baiting, anti-white racist, hate-mongering, violence-promoting, Marxist thug.

Then again, that pretty much describes everyone at MSNBC and CNN, doesn’t it?

Mark Finkelstein | January 8, 2017 at 7:14 am

When I first noticed Nance on TV a couple of years ago, I got the impression he might be offering relatively balanced views.

But either I was missing something, or Nance has veered hard left in the interim.

Note to those who feel my efforts in covering the MSM are misplaced: I respect the sentiments, but reporting on the ravings of the liberal press is what I did at NewsBusters for over 10 years and what I was brought to LI to do.

It is obviously not everyone’s cup of tea, but I hope some of our readers will find value–and even entertainment–in hearing about what is being said on the other side. We watch so you don’t have to, as they say.

    You’re doing fine Mark.

    Don’t let the few, no matter how well meaning, detractors deter you from the job.

    I’ll never watch MSNBC, but it’s nice to confirm why on occasion.

These are the geniuses who didn’t have anything to say about the actions of the Obama administrations? e.g. Sending cash to a sworn enemy (Iran), letting the RUSSIANS take control of 20% the US’s uranium etc. etc.

Talk about fake news and lamestream media…

like BoydG – was stationed with this burn-bag… it’s criminal that they allowed him a clearance and kept promoting him (whose name shall not be mentioned – our moniker for the p0s)… his penchant for prevarication perseveres – so any reflection on the intelligence community Rick is due to the lack of oversight via affirmative action and lax internal policing… swallowing camels and straining at gnats…

I was in the Navy with this dope. I could never figure out how he rose to the level of “expert.”

Just ignore him. He’s full of it.

Revitalization. Rehabilitation. Reconciliation.

These goals threaten the return to power of left-wing monopolists, welfare industrialists, and class diversitists (e.g. female chauvinists, racists, anti-nativists). And, apparently, the progress of social [in]justice adventures from Benghazi to Damascus to Kiev, and Moscow, too.

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