Daily Beast editor: Non-Cosmopolitan Rural Voters For Trump are the ‘Real Problem’
Rural voters for Trump, Brexit, LePen signal “trend against cities”
Message from MSNBC to you hicks out in the sticks: the people who gave us Le Pen, Brexit and now, Trump represent the “real problem.” Unlike we city dwellers, you don’t “mix” and “get along together” with people from “cosmopolitan cultures.”
That was the word from MSNBC contributor and Daily Beast Editor Christopher Dickey, speaking from Paris with Joy Reid today. Discussing the hold that President Trump has placed on immigration from seven named countries, Dickey began by claiming that people in Europe, especially in European governments, “think Trump has lost his mind.”
Then there was the obligatory Hitler allusion: in Europe “they remember what fascism was like. In the United States, we’ve been spared that—at least up until now.”
Then came the pièce de résistance—Dickey’s swipe at the great rural unwashed: “the voters who cast their ballots for Marine Le Pen, for Brexit, for Donald Trump, they’re not the people who are part of those cities, those cosmopolitan cultures where people mix and get along together. That is the real problem. That’s the divide we need to watch.”
Reid was quick to agree: “yeah, absolutely.”
CHRISTOPHER DICKEY: Well, not to put too fine a point on it, I think people here generally and especially in European governments think that Trump has lost his mind and the United States government is rapidly moving out of any kind of control, any kind of stability that’s been known in the past.
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And remember, Joy, in Europe they have historical memories. They remember what fascism was like. In the United States, we’ve been spared that— at least up until now.
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I think you have to understand also what that trend represents. It’s a trend against cosmopolitanism, basically, it’s a trend against cities. Most people live in cities in the United States, in Europe. The voters who cast their ballots for Marine Le Pen, for Brexit, for Donald Trump, they’re not the people who are part of those cities, those cosmopolitan cultures, those places where people mix and get along together. And that is the real problem. That’s the divide we need to watch.
JOY REID: Yeah, absolutely.
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Would Chicago be one of “those cosmopolitan cultures where people mix and get along together”?
We are just FlyOver people.
According to The New Yorker… yes…but only as viewed from a distance. Chicago is still a little too “Mid-Western” for them.
The leaders of BREXIT…and a great many Leavers…were “city” people. Some were actual City people, meaning the very center of London.
This guy’s an idiot. We’ve known fascism before, and before it even went under that name. Look into the Wilson administration. It was a very dangerous time in the US.
We say a softer version during the FDR regime. Just slightly softer in some respects…
It’s hard to imagine more idiocy being condensed into a single minute. Starting with the idea that this guy is voicing, and I don’t believe I’m putting words in his mouth, that “rustics” are just unsophisticated hicks. As if because people live “in the sticks” they’ve never been to cities, never traveled abroad.
Nothing could be further from the truth. But then “nothing could be further from the truth” and MSNBC go hand in hand.
I don’t want to go on too long about it, but I am from a large California city, born and bred, but I have traveled widely. Both because I spent twenty years in the Navy and due to my Uncle’s influence I have been a hunter pretty much my entire life.
An average farmer in Kansas (excellent for deer hunting, by the way) can do more math in a minute that your average New Yorker can do in a lifetime because, or just one thing and there are many others, he has to plan ahead to fertilize. And the farmer’s likely been to Rome, too.
http://mathcentral.uregina.ca/RR/database/RR.09.05/glydon1.html
“…One of the most frequently used math concepts on the farm is the use of proportions. Units and measurements used in farming are fairly unfamiliar to other areas. We can use proportions to make conversions from the unfamiliar to the familiar. Land is measured in acres, for example. It is hard to understand the size of an acre because our minds are trained to visualize miles or kilometers. We can use conversions to put an acre into perspective. There are 43,560 square feet in an acre. This is slightly smaller than the size of a Canadian football field, without the end zones. Other farm measurement terminology include quarters and sections. A quarter is 160 acres and a section is 4 quarters. Professionals who work in grain elevators frequently use conversions. Grain prices are often given per ton, but producers want to know the price per bushel. Agriculture specialists are required to do these conversions quickly and accurately.
The agriculture community uses numbers to describe and grade seeds. Weights of seeds are generally expressed in terms of bushels. For example, wheat is maybe 60 lbs/bu and perhaps barley is 48 lbs/bu. Seeds are graded using numbers as well. For example, spring wheat can be given a grade of 1, 2, 3, 4, or feed. Durum can be given a grade of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or feed. Barley can only be given a grade of 1, 2, or feed. Peas are either edibles or feed. In order for peas to be edible, they need a grade of 2 or better. In the case of durum, an HVK (hard vitreous kernels) measurement is one of the determining factors of a grade. HVK is a percentage measurement of hardness, which is examined by natural translucency, in a 25g sample. For a number one durum, the seeds need to have 80% HVK, for a number two durum, the seeds need to have 60% HVK, and so on. Elevators have a special scale that gives a measurement of HVK percentage. All of these number systems are used to categorize seeds. These numbers are determinants for grain pricing and are extremely valuable for producers and consumers…”
I was not a Trump guy. I wasn’t “never Trump” in the sense that I’d commit suicide before voting for him. But I was a “not a Trump guy” in the sense that until the final hours I was hoping for divine intervention and I hoped I wouldn’t have to choose between the two. Because my God is sufficiently sarcastic that such intervention never materialized.
I’ll tell you what, though. If this (blank) keeps up, I’ll become a Trumpster. How many people is little Mr. Dickey trying to alienate?
Really?? I would imagine that if the time-machine was not broken, those same people would think that Geo Washington, Tom Jefferson, John Adams and their running-buddies had lost their minds: imagine wanting to shed the power of the British crown. Fools.
The problem with those cosmopolitan urban folk is that they don’t really like the city, except for the theaters, restaurants,… oh yeah, sidewalks, curbs and gutters, wide paved streets… that stuff. And the crime.
So they decide to move to “the country” and telecommute… and start bitching about the lack of theaters, restaurants… etc. Except not the lack of crime. Then they start bitching about the neighbors having animals, big animals.They were so picturesque standing out in the field as the urbanites drove through on their way to a wine-tasting, but now that they live here… big difference.
Crime: not much– DUI and domestic violence is the standard fare. Chicago, LA, Miami… have more shootings and killings in any given weekend that I have experienced in the 20 years I’ve been here. Yes, I’m still treated as a “flat-lander” by some. So?
Europe is sooo over-rated.
I must really baffle him. Living in Orange county, CA. Trump voter, and loving the ban.
I’ll explain for him: Irvine, CA has become a little scary at times. There are times when i wonder where I am. No assimilation of immigrants here. Middle eastern culture on full, scary display. It wasn’t like this years ago, when immigrants assimilated. Anerica hasn’t changed, the immigrants have. (I’m an immigrant too, just came in ’78 and became American.)
Thank you for becoming an American. There are plenty born here who could care less…. Quite the change in SoCal!
Due to my affiliation with Fighter Squadron 111, the Sundowners, I met a gentleman who was an alumnus of a sister squadron. During WWII, in the Pacific campaign, his parents owned an orange grove in what I believe is now Orange county. He was home on leave on VE Day (unlike the Japanese, the US armed forces rotated experience pilots back stateside both to avoid burning them out and to impart their expertise).
They threw a pool party, and all the Axis POWs who they contracted for as labor were invited. A good time was had by all.
In some ways I would love to explode the Left’s’ heads……have the White House “first dog” (FDOTUS) be a German Shepard named…..Blondi. But that would be the blackest of humor and reserved only to thoughts and not action. Still….a rumor of such would play well in the shriveled minds of the Progs.
I’ve got a great idea! They can prove to me how much better they are:
“the people who are part of those cities, those cosmopolitan cultures, those places where people mix and get along together”
by taking their crew into one of the many Muslim “no go”zones and mixing with some of the culture. Then they can come back and lecture me.. If they live.
If I mixed socially with Progressives, I’d be tempted to introduce myself as a “national socialist”. I figure they’d miss the meaning entirely, and give me points for the ‘socialist’.
Or if you said you were a supporter of Pol Pot, that you were for legalized weed.
Watching all the whackos makes me wonder if Pol Pot didn’t have the right idea.
Yes, because the black and white citizens of our urban areas mix together so much….
This whole “cosmopolitan” view is coming from the Upper East side, from Beacon Hill or Back Bay . . . from the wealthier, whiter parts of cities whose denizens venture to Brooklyn, the Bronx, Mattapan, Roxbury, etc. . . . pretty much never. They sip their cocktails, surrounded by wealthy white progressives just like them, and congratulate themselves on their “worldliness.” After all, they move just as easily between the snootiest, most privileged areas of various cities on the coasts in America and in Europe and rub elbows with all those other unbearably self-righteous, self-deluded elites.
“people here generally and especially in European governments think that Trump has lost his mind ”
I lived in Europe for 2 1/2 years as a young teen, and I have worked with Europeans as an adult. When Americans are at their best, they always think we are crazy. American craziness is not a bug, it’s a feature.
Americans have a long history of looking at a problem, saying, “We can do this,” — and then doing it. So, Donald Trump, who is a builder by trade, comes by it honestly. He sees a problem, he says he thinks he can fix it, and then he sets out to do exactly as he promised. Sure, the Europeans will call him crazy every step of the way, but they will also be glad he’s there.
Did you mean this to be a reply to my comment? I’m just puzzled because I didn’t say that (““people here generally and especially in European governments think that Trump has lost his mind ”).
After 9/11 I recall the Europeans, specifically the the Germans, holding banners expressing what was thought to be solidarity.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/52/US_Navy_010913-N-ZZ999-502_Sailors_aboard_the_German_navy_destroyer_FGS_Luetjens_%28D_185%29_express_their_condolences_to_Sailors_aboard_the_guided-mis.jpg
What they thought was, now we knew what it was to be like them.
We don’t. We’re Americans. We never will.
Bravo bravo!
You’re right. Realistically they’ve not changed from how they were portrayed in the movie “Gentleman’s Agreement.”
Silly me, thinking that “the problem” was that people everywhere got tired of all these elitist parasites telling us what and how to think.
Yes, we are a problem. We don’t get buried by DC bs, are self-sufficient and won’t put up with the gov parenting us. Those in the cities are so darn helpless, which makes them easier to control.
I would guess that there are a lot more people from “fly-over” country who have been to the big urban areas, mingle with people, see the museums and Broadway and then are very content to return home.
My mother was always amazed that my city was so much nicer and cleaner than her big urban town. She eventually moved down to my home where I was proud to take care of her. My sister lives on the east coast and didn’t really give her the time of day and certainly not access to her house.
Big urban areas are too claustrophobic for me – give me a place where I can see the horizon.
I wonder how many of the urban folks go to places in the inner parts of the country. They might be surprised that we do have lots of restaurants, cultural activities, sports and plenty of shopping – Walmart is not the only player in town.
BTW, I also know that there are lots of nice cities to visit in the “red” part of the country – I don’t have to go to the east or west coast. And, we’re friendly – we can just strike up a conversation with anyone.
You can hear a persons life story between terminals in Houston. God, I love Texas.
Ah yes, those MSNBC people. They’re the real problem. The strict regimentation of thought, the implacable hatred of anyone who resists it, the violence toward those not members of the ant nest …
The Loony Leftoids aren’t fascists … they’re Muslims. They haven’t actually converted yet … but they will. The mental commitment has been made. The formal act will follow in due course.
It’s the perfect way of life and thought for them. The details of Islam aren’t so good; in fact, direct repudiation of everything they think they believe in now. But since what they really believe in is submission, control, hermetic closed-mindedness, and violence, they can ignore the details—there’s a religion calling, and their need for one is desperate.
Things are resolving, becoming clearer. Good.
But lightweight stuff like mere delays to allow for paperwork processing of the invaders won’t do the job.
Well, this is certainly the way to win back all of those working class voters in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Ohio who deserted the Dem Party and swung the election to Trump. Isn’t it?
I would cut our European friends a bit of slack, just enough to point out to them that they are listening to Fake News.
I was channel hopping while driving this morning, and landed on an NPR story from Europe. Yes, the Europeans are responding badly, to what they have been told is a ban on Muslims entering the US under any circumstances. In another set of questions, it was termed a ban on “refugees.”
There was no indication that these people knew it was a temporary stand-down to give our agencies time to get their bearings on a fraught situation, that it’s been done before, and is limited to people arriving from seven countries, and not the whole world.
Under those circumstances, it is no surprise that they are aghast. On the other hand, their upset is hardly enough to bother me, because I know they are misinformed.
Hey Dickey, let me quote on of obama’s supporters after his first election:
“We president now”.
Or….
“Elections have consequences.”
Who said that?
To quote another blogger: “Do you want more Trump? This is how you get more Trump.”
The distant governments and the cosmopolitan elites in all these countries have the same condescending arrogant derisive attitude to the ordinary working people and small business men.
When jihad comes to the land, who you gonna call? It won’t be ol’ Chris Dickey. He’ll be soiling his knickers and screaming for the U.S. to bail the world out once again!
And when they build a wall around those “cosmopolitan” cultures, they’ll be the ones screaming to get out and trying to figure out how to survive, while those on the outside will be hunkering down to survive.
There is an old saying here in America that after three days with no transportation or electricity in the big cities and we would see how evil the human race can become. Elite seem to think that since everything is great in their lives then they know what is best. They fail to realize that almost everything they take for granted comes from the very people they disparage. Electricity, water, sewer, protection, transportation, food, I would say education but that would be wrong since they all send their kids to private schools, clothing, and their phones. Take all these away and see what the elite look like then!
Bitter, clinging, knuckle-dragging, redneck, deplorable hick from out in the boonies.
White & male.
I’m Dickey’s worst nightmare.
And I’m smiling as I type this.
Great example of like father NOT like son. Christian Rickey is the quintessential elitist. His father James Rickey was nothing like that. He understood the nature of man as he is and not as progressives want man to be.
I hate Android with a passion. That should be Dickey not Rickey.
Dear Chris Dickey, f**k you
The Daily Beast?
Really?
The lying site that frequently quotes fake news? Like CNN?
Journalists Fall for FAKE NEWS Tweets Published by Parody Account – Then Report it On Daily Beast (Video)
A Twitter account “Reuter New Braek,” which identifies itself as a parody account in its profile information, tweeted out late Sunday night that police had identified the gunman in the Canadian Mosque shooting as two white supremacists, David Aurine and Mathieu Fournier.
The account has only a few hundred followers and again it says in it’s own description that it is a parody account yet the Daily Beast didn’t bother to check it’s sources and even scarier they use twitter as their news source to find information.
The parody account responded to attacks from people by saying, “It’s not my fault modern journalists are all gullible morons.”
.@TheDailyBeast published the “names of the shooters” from Quebec City mosque attack…names taken from a PARODY Reuters account! #FakeNews pic.twitter.com/76TiFU4MdB
God and Mother Nature hate cities.
If you crowd laboratory rats they begin dying spontaneously, for no apparent, discernible reasons.