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Multiple claims of sexual misconduct made against Trump in past 24 hrs.

Multiple claims of sexual misconduct made against Trump in past 24 hrs.

Trump campaign says it’s going to War over these October surprises.

At the presidential debate on Sunday night, Anderson Cooper pressed Donald Trump into committing as to whether Trump had done any of the things (groping, etc.) Trump bragged about on the now infamous Access Hollywood tape. Trump said he never did those things, it was just locker room talk.

Ben Shapiro saw what was about to happen — that the following week Trump’s statement would be put to the test:

Well, on Wednesday night, within an hour or so of each other, multiple media outlets published separate stories of women accusing Trump of doing the things he bragged about on the tape.

“He was pushing me against the wall and forcing his tongue down my throat.”

People’s Natasha Stoynoff recounted the time she visited the Trumps at their Florida mansion to write a story about their first year of marriage. When Melania left to change, Stoynoff said Trump wanted to show her around the mansion, especially one room:

We walked into that room alone, and Trump shut the door behind us. I turned around, and within seconds he was pushing me against the wall and forcing his tongue down my throat.

Now, I’m a tall, strapping girl who grew up wrestling two giant brothers. I even once sparred with Mike Tyson. It takes a lot to push me. But Trump is much bigger — a looming figure — and he was fast, taking me by surprise and throwing me off balance. I was stunned. And I was grateful when Trump’s longtime butler burst into the room a minute later, as I tried to unpin myself.

The butler informed us that Melania would be down momentarily, and it was time to resume the interview.

“It was an assault.”

Jessica Leeds told The New York Times that about 30 years ago she sat next to Trump on an airplane:

About 45 minutes after takeoff, she recalled, Mr. Trump lifted the armrest and began to touch her.

According to Ms. Leeds, Mr. Trump grabbed her breasts and tried to put his hand up her skirt.

“He was like an octopus,” she said. “His hands were everywhere.”

She fled to the back of the plane. “It was an assault,” she said.

Ms. Leeds has told the story to at least four people close to her, who also spoke with The New York Times.

“It was so inappropriate”

Rachel Crooks claims Trump assaulted her in the elevator at Trump Tower:

Ms. Crooks was a 22-year-old receptionist at Bayrock Group, a real estate investment and development company in Trump Tower in Manhattan, when she encountered Mr. Trump outside an elevator in the building one morning in 2005.

Aware that her company did business with Mr. Trump, she turned and introduced herself. They shook hands, but Mr. Trump would not let go, she said. Instead, he began kissing her cheeks. Then, she said, he “kissed me directly on the mouth.”

It didn’t feel like an accident, she said. It felt like a violation.

“It was so inappropriate,” Ms. Crooks recalled in an interview. “I was so upset that he thought I was so insignificant that he could do that.”

“You liar!”

Those are the words Mindy McGillivray shouted at her TV when Trump said he never assaulted a woman. McGillivray claims Trump grabbed her ass in 2003 when she assisted her friend Ken Davidoff, a photographer, during a concert in Florida:

After the show, Davidoff and McGillivray were standing in a pavilion behind the main house in the middle of a group of people. To their left was Regis Philbin and his wife, Joy, according to Davidoff. To McGillivray’s immediate right was Trump and his fiancée, Melania.

“Ray already performed. He’s ready to leave. He’s saying his goodbyes to everyone,’’ McGillivray recalled.

“All of a sudden I felt a grab, a little nudge. I think it’s Ken’s camera bag, that was my first instinct. I turn around and there’s Donald. He sort of looked away quickly. I quickly turned back, facing Ray Charles, and I’m stunned.’’

McGillivray said she remembers saying to herself, ‘’‘OK, am I going to say something now and make a scene or be quiet?’ I chose to stay quiet.’’

Davidoff said he did not witness the alleged groping but he said he has never had any reason to doubt McGillivray.

Asked about the possibility that what she felt was Trump or someone accidentally bumping into her, McGillivray said no. “This was a pretty good nudge. More of a grab,’’ she said. “It was pretty close to the center of my butt. I was startled. I jumped.’’

“Oh my god, there’s a man in here.”

Contestants at the 1997 Miss Teen USA pageant said Trump, who owned it at the time, barged in as they changed clothes:

Four women who competed in the 1997 Miss Teen USA beauty pageant said Donald Trump walked into the dressing room while contestants — some as young as 15 — were changing.

“I remember putting on my dress really quick because I was like, ‘Oh my god, there’s a man in here,’” said Mariah Billado, the former Miss Vermont Teen USA.
Trump, she recalled, said something like, “Don’t worry, ladies, I’ve seen it all before.”

Three other women, who asked to remain anonymous for fear of getting engulfed in a media firestorm, also remembered Trump entering the dressing room while girls were changing. Two of them said the girls rushed to cover their bodies, with one calling it “shocking” and “creepy.” The third said she was clothed and introduced herself to Trump.

Eleven contestants, though, said they do not remember seeing Trump in the dressing room.

“I was freaking out.”

Jill Harth, who worked with Trump on these pageants, claimed he assaulted her many times:

Jill Harth, who worked with Trump on pageants in the 1990s, has said that Trump tried to grope her on various occasions, and sexually assaulted her in his daughter Ivanka’s bedroom. “I was admiring the decoration, and next thing I know he’s pushing me against a wall and has his hands all over me,” Harth told Nicholas Kristof, the Times columnist. “He was trying to kiss me. I was freaking out.” On another occasion, she says she vomited as a defense mechanism.

Trump responds to the allegations

Trump has threatened legal action against The Times. His lawyer sent a letter to the publication:

The Times said Trump blew up at the reporter when asked about the allegations:

“None of this ever took place,” said Mr. Trump, who began shouting at The Times reporter who was questioning him. He said that The Times was making up the allegations to hurt him and that he would sue the news organization if it reported them.

“You are a disgusting human being,” he told the reporter as she questioned him about the women’s claims.

Asked whether he had ever done any of the kissing or groping that he had described on the recording, Mr. Trump was once again insistent: “I don’t do it. I don’t do it. It was locker room talk.”

More to come?

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Any chance Trump could get Bill Cosby to stand up and point out the selective outrage lefties have for this type of stuff? MSM is totally at open war with Republicans at this point. Only the willfully blind/ignorant/stupid claim not to see it.

casualobserver | October 13, 2016 at 9:36 am

If there was ever any doubt about media collusion and plan to do all they could to destroy Trump, could there be after this perfectly timed and widespread effort?

They attack nearly every GOP Pres candidate. I’m not a Trump fanatic, but this is unprecedented.

I’m trying really hard to not look at any of this the way hillary supporters do. But it is getting harder and harder to be part of this debacle. I know, I know, the country’s future is at stake but man this is going to be a hold-you-nose, close-your-eyes, hole-your-breath moment in my voting history!

The octopus story is plagiarized from an actual case, I hear. And I read that armrests don’t go up in first class. Anyone know different?

    Sorry Miss Parsley. I heard the story, but “hands like an octopus” is a common metaphor. You can probably find many stories like hers. Precisely because it is so vague. That plagiarism is just observational bias.

    The armrest thing i don’t know about.

    The thing I do find sort of confusing is why would Trump be taking a commercial flight. Even if he did not own a plane at the time, he would probably have chartered a flight.

    Luapious in reply to Petrushka. | October 13, 2016 at 12:08 pm

    It varies from airline to airline, and from model to model of plane. Some do, most don’t.

      Petrushka in reply to Luapious. | October 13, 2016 at 1:23 pm

      I’m sure the Times carefully researched this and would not publish a defamatory story that is physically impossible.

    Jackie in reply to Petrushka. | October 13, 2016 at 3:29 pm

    At that time the armrests didn’t move. The story is utterly ridiculous. He was famous at that time. He’s wrestling with a woman in the middle of a plane and no one commented on it. People always watch famous people on a plane even when they pretend not to.

Wow. Just like we all expected. I blame the Russians.

/s

I believe nothing that comes from the Democrat operatives in the MSM. They are corrupt. They lie. The evidence of that grows.

If only these stories were published by the National Enquirer, then they’d be believable.

Anyone else feeling a little nervous about the next four years?

For the lawyers here, how much credibility would YOU assign to someone, who was allegedly a victim of some type of sexual harassment, if the “victim” had never mentioned the incident for years after it occurred and only came forward AFTER claims of such behavior had been made by another for political or personal gain? Would you go into court solely on the unsupported word of the “victim”?

In the words of Ronald Reagan, trust but verify. I think that I will wait for some supporting evidence to present itself before I embrace these claims as fact.

    Ragspierre in reply to Mac45. | October 13, 2016 at 10:10 am

    This lawyer would object to your question as assuming (a LOT of) facts not in evidence.

    Which is what a straw man fallacy is all about. Assuming things or proposing things that aren’t true.

      mailman in reply to Ragspierre. | October 13, 2016 at 10:35 am

      You would think that were one a REAL lawyer, that given all the doubts and inconsistencies in the stories that one might conduct a little more rigorous checking before signing off on a story running….unless of course you were on a time table with all the other mfm outlets???

    Anonamom in reply to Mac45. | October 13, 2016 at 10:34 am

    I actually HAVE prosecuted sex crimes. A late report goes a long way in damaging victim credibility (in normal circumstances which, since this is political, is anything but). Color me skeptical.

    (And why does the name Anita Hill keep coming to mind…)

      Ragspierre in reply to Anonamom. | October 13, 2016 at 10:58 am

      “Late report” was one of the defenses used against Mrs. Brodderick, as I recall.

      And it held for a long time in the press, didn’t it? Interesting what we choose to believe and what we don’t, in exactly analogous situations.

      I was thinking more the “McMartin School” case

    mailman in reply to Mac45. | October 13, 2016 at 10:34 am

    You would think that were one a REAL lawyer, that given all the counts, one might conduct a little more rigours checking before signing off on a story running….unless of course you were on a time table with all the other mfm outlets???

    rotten in reply to Mac45. | October 13, 2016 at 12:52 pm

    Real victims run to the law, not to the media.

    Petrushka in reply to Mac45. | October 13, 2016 at 1:21 pm

    I’m sure the New York Times was at least as diligent in this case as The Rolling Stone was in theirs.

    They no doubt researched the flight and the passenger list before publishing.

    The way Dan Rather researched his fonts.

    How’d that work out for him, anyway?

I’m a bit surprised they haven’t come up with a guy saying this stuff too. That way they’d attack Trump support among women and religious types.

Perhaps they have and are waiting a bit. Unsubstantiated sleaze attacks are best sprung at the last minute, so there’s no time to investigate them and show a trail of deception, coercion or bribery. But the fad for early voting has messed that up a bit, so that now there’s some advantage in not waiting until the last minute. The solution is simple—do both. Throw sleaze early and often.

If this stuff was solid there’d have been no disadvantage in deploying it sooner. That alone makes it smell like pure fabrication.

Recall that to Republicans, “swiftboating” means recounting true incidents about some dork you served with ‘way back when.

But to Democrats, “swiftboating” means telling lies about some dork you served with ‘way back when. And since the Republicans “got away with it” in 2004, it’s perfectly fair for the Dems to do it now. At least if you’re a Dem.

Its incredibly convenient that all these mfm outlets are running the same stories at the same time from the same sources…just incredibly convenient timing isn’t it.

    Shapiro is a sharp tack.

    How dumb does the DNC think we are?

    Probability of all accusers coming forward all at once w/in a 24 hour period new cycle. Zero- unless this is the Anita Hill routine.

    Also the story of being bumped to first class after you are already on a plane and sitting in coach? In my 40 years of flying, those upgrades happen at the gate BEFORE you get on a plane. A flight attendant doesn’t come back and hand pick you and if Trump had made a practice of having flight attendants do that- there’d be a pattern and corroboration of flight attendants.

    It’s absolutely criminal that any news outlet are not doing their jobs and vetting these stories.

      How dumb? Dumb enough to elect Obama…twice…

      Luapious in reply to Andy. | October 13, 2016 at 12:17 pm

      No, it does happen. I’ve been bumped on an international flight once. The plane was near empty so they bumped all seven of us up to first class to join the three that were there. Rare, but it happens. One of the reasons PanAm is no more.

        Loren in reply to Luapious. | October 13, 2016 at 3:26 pm

        Except that is not an example of picking one person out of coach to bump to First Class. That was moving all to First Class to reduce the steps required by the Flight attendants.

    RodFC in reply to RodFC. | October 13, 2016 at 10:49 am

    I’m sorry I understated the problem.

    Pedophile Trump caught kissing small boy while crowd of Trump supporters look on.

In regard to the “airplane” attack allegation, the woman stated she had upgraded to first class where she was seated next to Trump. She claimed escaping by returning to her seat in the back of the plane.
As a frequent flyer since the late 80’s, if you “upgrade to first class” then you no longer have a seat in the back of the plane. Maybe I’m picking at nits……….but just saying.

    OnlyRightDissentAllowed in reply to PAT09. | October 13, 2016 at 11:28 am

    You are picking at nits and the accused does have lice. I read the story. What she said is that she was SEATED in coach and a flight attendant offered her the 1st class seat after the flight departed. So here original seat was still available.

    Picking at nits is all you have. He did it.

    BTW, in all the stories I read, the accuser told someone or multiple someones – friends, boyfriend, family at the time. Some came forward, earlier in the campaign. In one case, an accuser talked to the NYTimes reporter in March, but wanted to remain anonymous. After the denial and the debate, she became enraged and called the original reporter and said she wanted to go public.

    Others have said similar things. After it went public and Trump offered denials and tried to play it down, they decided to go public. Isn’t that as likely as a conspiracy since he did it and bragged about it.

      There is also the issue of the arm rests in first class being immovable…even in the 80’s.

        OnlyRightDissentAllowed in reply to mailman. | October 13, 2016 at 11:52 am

        LOL, that’s your rebuttal? Let me know after you have researched every commercial airline flying at the time.

        I believe the interiors were customized to the wishes of the airline.

          Wonder why the woman didn’t name the airline.

          The first class upgrade after being seating in coach (these things happen at the gate, even in the 80s), AND there being a seat to run back to in coach should raise eyebrows.

          OnlyRightDissentAllowed in reply to OnlyRightDissentAllowed. | October 13, 2016 at 12:45 pm

          @UK Transplant, Andy

          “Wonder why the woman didn’t name the airline.” Maybe she did. Maybe the reporter or an editor cut the article? Maybe she didn’t. You are grasping at straws.

          Why don’t you get O’Keefe to doctor up a video for you?

          “The first class upgrade after being seating in coach (these things happen at the gate, even in the 80s), AND there being a seat to run back to in coach should raise eyebrows.”

          All kinds of things happened in the ’80s when the airlines were really competing. I was on a red-eye from Miami to NYC that was almost empty. They served a glass of champagne in coach. Another guy and I started up a conversation. We decided to sit together. The flight attendant refilled our glasses. The next time she just left a bottle and then another one. What was the airline? I don’t know.

          Especially on nearly empty flights, the attendants sometimes consolidated passengers so they could relax. No one cared.

          What the accuser remembers is being attacked. If it went to court, she could be cross-examined on that point. The story is quite plausible when taken as a whole. Let’s see if Trump wins a suit after he loses the election.

          He is already facing a civil child rape case, the Trump University fraud and accusation that he misused his Foundation. Why not a couple others? Maybe he will get bulk discount from his attorneys? Maybe he will be the one who goes to prison?

          Well as a Gold, Elite, Platinum Class flyer I don’t have to “believe” that the first class arm rests do not lift up like in couch. I know they don’t on the major carriers. Mailman’s right.

          OnlyRightDissentAllowed in reply to OnlyRightDissentAllowed. | October 13, 2016 at 1:57 pm

          @PAT09 Then Trump should have any easy law suit and the NYTimes reporter, editor, and legal team are all incompetent.

          It will be interesting if Trump actually does sue. My guess is he won’t.

          OnlyRightDissent: You equate your memory of getting a bottle of champagne to a woman who claims he grabbed her breasts and tried to put his hand up her skirt? I’m a woman and believe me, if I experienced that situation, I would remember EXACTLY what airline it was. I would also want to give as many details as possible to get the truth out. I’ve flown quite a lot and know that the flight attendant of a 1st class passenger, especially in the ’80’s, would be asking that passenger if she was displeased with something in first class and try to recify the situation. You have a very weak argument.

I posted alread yesterday night, the main woman in the article, well she didn’t recant she said she was taken out of context.

The girls didn’t just say he did not come in. They said could not have come in.

So two thirds of the NYT story is flushed. Amasing that all these stories are coming out together to fast to all be debunked.

I seem to remember a drunken driving arrest ( though that was true ) coming out the weekend before an election.

I think we have to wait and see,

PS The Senator from Nebraska that is not Sasse just reendorced Trump. I wonder if she will now unrenedorse him.

    OnlyRightDissentAllowed in reply to RodFC. | October 13, 2016 at 11:31 am

    Trump bragged about on Howard Stern. He said he owned the pageant and needed to ‘inspect’ it. What security guard would have stopped him?

Oh, my!

After hammering Hillary incessantly about her role in Willy Jeff’s bimbo eruptions it would at least appear that The Donald has an escalating “hands” problem all of his own. To be vociferously denied until a semen-stained article of clothing is produced, I’m sure. The veracity of the claims means absolutely nothing in the short term. All that matters is ramping up the accusations for another three weeks. They’re goading Trump into going scorched earth on his accusers as the world knows he is wont to do. If he takes the bait he confirms he’s the total ass so many believe him to be. If he doesn’t the accusations just fester. They’re rather effectively painting him into a corner. Incredibly well timed by the Dems to keep Trump off message in a rapidly shrinking window of time.

Now would be a good time to deploy some of the party support Trump has so effectively alienated. Poking everybody in the eye with a sharp stick may not have been such a brilliant strategy. Trump is currently experiencing the difference between endorsement and support. He needs the proxy army. Time to deal, Donald.

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/10/12/trump-polls-crooked-paul-ryan-made-sinister-deal-isis-might-take-country-clinton-wins/

T-rump isn’t just losing…

He’s losing it.

And he’ll do a lot of damage as he goes down ugly.

Just a brief note.
Yesterday James O’Keefe was suspended from Twitter.

While reading about it I discovered a newly created website.
Gab.ai

It was made by a conservative because he didn’t like Twitter’s banning of conservatives and opened it up about two months ago. There are already thousands of people but they are slow in adding people so there is a waiting list of up two weeks. Still you might want to check it out.

One more thought.
None of this matters.
Why?
Because Trump’s campaign was over Friday. He was never going to win. He should drop out.

I suggest we wait a while before writing him off.

#NextFaieTrumpVictim is trending right now.

Sorry #NextFakeTrumpVictim

The coup d’état of our free national election is 100% under way by the highly biased and very partisan media. The press should report the facts not promote one candidate over another. So many times we have seen journalist blur cross that line and the latest story shows the line is gone.

Please tell me how all the stories were released at the same time? Trump has been running for over a year and all of a sudden everyone decided to tell their story. And it happens to be 3 weeks till the election!

    mailman in reply to Common Sense. | October 13, 2016 at 1:50 pm

    Its all incredibly convenient timing isn’t it??? Almost toooooo convenient if I was of a sceptical mind.

      Ragspierre in reply to mailman. | October 13, 2016 at 3:09 pm

      But, here again, you deliberately conflate two very different questions.

      The timing is obviously strategic. Duh.

      The verity of the charges is open to question, but no more than that. Not to anyone with an open mind.

Donald Trump has been in the public eye for 4 decades. If these allegations were true then they would have come out 30 years ago or 10 years ago or 2 years ago. Those things always do. The GOPe would have used them to keep him from winning the primaries not left it until 3 weeks before the election. The entire story stinks to high heavens.

Finally, the media comes through with the reports to throw the election to the corrupt powers that be. Decades old incidents revealed when it’s too late to respond or counter.

Instead, we are expected to toss out billions of dollars and tens of thousands hours of work invested in this election on some fly-by-night accusations.

Personally, I doubt the veracity of these claims, but I know damn well that even if they are true, these reports should have been made months ago when the primaries were underway.

Tom Delay, Rick Perry and Scott Walker, Republicans all, faced these last minute attacks by the Democrat Party and their henchmen in the media.

It’s too late, Hillary, I don’t give a damn.

“You know we’re going to have an affair, don’t you?” he declared, in the same confident tone he uses when he says he’s going to make America great again.
Good stuff.

The McCain/Iseman playbook.

They can say it’s not libel, as Trump is a public figure and put himself out there.

…and simply retract post-election

ok- so lets get the outrage meter calibrated.

I’m not supposed to be outraged at the Kennedy/Biden Waitress sandwich stories.

I’m not supposed to be outraged at the Clinton rapes and all the other Clinton dirt.

I am supposed to be outraged about late breaking groping/kissing bandit stories that are all breaking weeks before the election and not corroborated and happened more than a decade ago.

I’m not supposed to be outraged about the illegal aliens here committing crimes and not being deported, because that would make me racist.

Please let the criminals mentioned in that last note focus their behaviors on Hillary voters.

    Ragspierre in reply to Andy. | October 13, 2016 at 2:18 pm

    Just for historicity, it was Kennedy/Dodd sandwiches, and the “waitresses” were specialists in the field.

    But my outrage meter pegs at all of it.

    I don’t have a polarity switch on mine.

Next week Trump will be accused of kicking a dog when he was college, that he he still has not paid a library fine for an over due book when he was 8 and he was in the grassy knoll when Kennedy was assassinted.

Hilary married a sexual predator.
Melania married a sexual predator.

Now you know why Donald and Bill have been friends for yrs.

    RodFC in reply to m1. | October 13, 2016 at 1:02 pm

    Hey Rags and litterbox see the depths that you have sunken to?
    Sgreeing with this guy!

      Ragspierre in reply to RodFC. | October 13, 2016 at 2:07 pm

      Hey, Rod The Liar, I bet all four of us agree the sky is blue and water is wet.

      Da Pig IS a sexual predator. Pure and simple.

The time and context of the accusations undermine the credibility of the alleged victims.

anyone surprised by this turn of events. I bet the Dems even have plan B ready if Trump should win, the Russian fixed the election. neutralize all the voter fraud, and we need a do over.

    Ragspierre in reply to ronk. | October 13, 2016 at 2:21 pm

    ronk, you have it backwards.

    Der Donald has been doing ground prep for weeks so he can cry, moan, and blow snot bubbles about how he was “robbed” by a “fixed system”.

    He’ll do all the damage he can to our democracy just to salve his corrupt, pathological ego.

      actually rags you and most people have it completely wrong, Trump was never meant to win the election at all, the fact he is doing as well as he has probably took them by surprise, he was meant to get Hillary elected but she is such a poor candidate, a yellow dog could beat her.

Is the accuser an employee of the Clinton Foundation, or not.

Anyone have facts?

In the law, often times it isn’t considered relevant to bring in evidence of a prior incident involving the same conduct alleged in a matter before the bar.

HOWEVER, it CAN be when we can establish a pattern and/or practice of an individual showing a connection between prior conduct and the matter at bar.

T-rump was a Hugh Hefner acolyte. He’s a Howard Stern guy. He TRIED all his life to be a super Alpha, and all his life fell WAY below that.

As his past unfolds, you’ll see a clear pattern and practice, very, very like that of Dollar Bill Clinton, who he defended against his accusers until his “compaign conversion”. He used to attack Clinton’s victims as “terrible women” in public.

Or have you all forgotten this?

It’s an entertaining comment thread, to say the least. Hey, somebody has to believe that Trump didn’t do it….

Well there you go. Hillary’s history of denying her husband’s infidelities will be considered in any claim her campaign she makes.

And her history of lying to cover her mistakes and illegalities would shame Nixon.

    Ragspierre in reply to Petrushka. | October 13, 2016 at 3:18 pm

    As often noted, Hellary is a bad, terrible, really awful person.

    How does that help T-rump with his own issues?

      Petrushka in reply to Ragspierre. | October 13, 2016 at 3:25 pm

      First you have to demonstrate that Trump has issues. I mean something worse than Joe Bidenism. I’ve seen a picture of Trump with young girls. It was posted without noting that the girls were his daughters. This is the level to which Hillary supporters have descended.

      You know, there were people who thought that Joe the groper was seriously qualified to run for president.

    THIS is larger than the issue of infidelity alone. This is about entitlement. Trump feels that he is entitled to sexual favors form any woman who tickles his fiancy, and that every man is like a eunuch, he will accept and applaud the assaults.
    To Donald Trump every American, male or female, is a deplorable slavish second-class citizen. You heard it on the Billy Bush tape, you heard it on Howard Stern, now women are coming out to corroborate the evidence.

Trump concedes Virginia. No surprise, I suppose, but state is next?

I got this e-mail today from a friend.
——-Original Message——-
Pastor Shares Concerning Trump

My friend and one time fellow pastor, Dalton Douglas, shares some powerful thoughts concerning Donald Trump: “I’ve heard too many say lately that we, the American people have no choice in this November election!

Do you really think that our Creator would leave us with no choice?
Come on people! Where’s your faith? He has heard our cries!

In defense of Donald Trump: Try to keep
this in mind…….

Donald Trump did not steal your money.

Donald Trump did not raise your taxes.

Donald Trump did not quadruple the price of food.

Donald Trump is not starting a race war.

Donald Trump did not leave any US soldiers in Benghazi to be slaughtered and desecrated by Muslims.

Donald Trump did not send the US Navy to fight for Syrian Al-Qaeda.

Donald Trump did not arm ISIS and systematically exterminate Christians throughout the Middle East.

Donald Trump did not betray Israel.

Donald Trump did not provide financing and technology to Iran’s nuclear weapons program.

Donald Trump did not give our military secrets to China.

Donald Trump did not remove our nuclear missile shield in Poland at the behest of Russia.

Donald Trump did not shrivel our military, and betray our veterans.

Donald Trump did not cripple our economy.

Donald Trump did not increase our debt to 20 trillion dollars.

Donald Trump did not ruin our credit, twice.

Donald Trump did not double African American unemployment.

Donald Trump did not increase welfare to a record level for eight years.

Donald Trump did not sign a law making it legal to execute and imprison Americans.

Donald Trump did not set free all of terrorists in Guantanamo bay.

Donal Trump did not steal your rights, violate US Constitutional law, or commit treason hundreds of times.

Yet Trump is being ripped apart in the news, nonstop. Barrack Hussein Obama, Hillary Clinton and the criminals occupying our government, are not.

The media is the Democratic Party; save our culture. Stop listening to them!

Please share!

Henry Hawkins | October 13, 2016 at 5:50 pm

RE: Aircraft arm rests, heard a local Rush wannabe (young conservative radio host in Raleigh) interview a retired commercial airine pilot who said that as far back as he remembers, airliners were required to have armrests that move out of the way to facilitate seat evacuations when necessary.

Whether Trump groped or not (can you believe the lowly state of American presidential political discussion?), whether armrests went up or down in the 1980s, whether the media are conspiring, etc., etc, it simply just doesn’t matter anymore. The general public will not hear the facts, and many wouldn’t care anyway. The meme is set without regard for its veracity. “Hand’s up! Don’t vote for Trump!”

Idealism says media ought never be biased, mudslinging ought never occur, and candidates ought to be judged on the merits of their records, policies, and characters. Right.

Realism says none of that will or could happen, that bad stuff is coming that any given candidate needs to prepare for, and as many judgments will be based on internet website headlines, bumper stickers, misleading political ads, and the same collusion between the MSM and the Democrat Party we’ve seen for 50 years.

That Trump would face waves of oppo dirt was a given long before Trump anounced, entirely predictable and the dirty practice would be conspicuous only in its absence. It’s Politics 101 – prepare for dirt, because it’s coming. They did the same to Romney, going back to his childhood to drum up bully allegations, cruelty to his dog, etc., etc. They did the same to George Bush, with Dan Rather actually killing his own career in a dishonest effort to smear him. Anyone surprised by and unprepared for it is not ready for primetime and shouldn’t have run without a plan to deal with it – *especially* if any of it might be true.

The Trump campaign has proved incompetent in the general election, failing even at the Politics 101 stuff.

https://pjmedia.com/election/2016/10/13/report-trump-refused-to-prepare-campaign-for-sex-scandals/

Here’s where the hubris really bites Der Donald in his ample ass…

Here we go again; the Democrat make some 11th hour bid to steal the election and we all throw our hands up and surrender.

We have seen hard evidence of corruption in the IRS, in the DOJ, in the FBI and in the State Department during Hillary’s reign there.

The whole nation has turned into a college campus of kangaroo courts over unsubstantiated claims of sexual harassment a decade or more ago.

Has any evidence of any kind been produced? Any witnesses at all? Anybody seen a chick wandering around with a mattress?

Frankly, Hillary, I don’t give a damn. You are a known disaster; Trump is only a possible disaster and Trump doesn’t have the corrupt government on his side.

I am enjoying all of this. YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW DONALD and his supporters.

The #NT crowd on LI is certainly full of itself tonight. But I have a question for them. If you get what you want and on Nov 9 Trump has been defeated, then what? What is the gain for the conservativism you claim to love? Or is this all about your being able to strut and preen and crow “I told you so!”? Is there a positive gain for conservativism that offsets the negative consequences of losing, or is this just about the shallowness of your self vindication?

    VaGentleman in reply to VaGentleman. | October 13, 2016 at 9:05 pm

    A thumbs down is NOT an answer.

    Henry Hawkins in reply to VaGentleman. | October 13, 2016 at 10:17 pm

    Who exactly do you think you are, demanding answers from people ignoring your haughty GOPe post?

    Then we regroup and keep pushing our ideas of small government, personal liberty, robust foreign policy and family values. And, oh, the borders.
    All of it is dead if Trump is elected.

      VaGentleman in reply to edgeofthesandbox. | October 13, 2016 at 11:15 pm

      edge,
      all of it seems dead if Clinton is elected. Why is Trump worse than she would be?

        No, it’s not all dead if Clinton is elected. Naturally, I would prefer a conservative president, but we can oppose Clinton like we’ve opposed Obama. We can’t oppose Trump because 1/2 of the GOP will be on his side and United Dems will be pressuring him to the left where he wants to be to begin with.
        Funny you ask this question now and not a half a year ago when we told you we will not vote for Trump.

          VaGentleman in reply to edgeofthesandbox. | October 14, 2016 at 6:19 am

          I thought that the whole purpose behind trying to elect Cruz was that the GOPe (as many of you call them) had surrendered to Obama on too many issues. Now, suddenly, they are going to grow a spine and defend us against Hillary? (Especially if, as you claim, half of them already want to go left?) And that doesn’t count the court appointments. Had Alito died a year earlier, we would have a lib majority court. No congress can block nominees for 4 years. Besides, how much currency will you have with them after you spent the last 3 months cheer leading the opposition? I would say it’s very likely the door won’t open when you knock – what happens to your plan then?

          To recap. Your plan is to defeat Trump, hunker down and use the same tactics that have worked so well against Obama against Hillary. And you’ll do this with a republican party that is in disarray after an internal fight that you engineered to defeat the candidate chosen by the party in free elections.

          And, we haven’t talked about the Trump supporters. I’m sure they will all rush to your standard, after you mocked and insulted them since he became the nominee.

          But. back to my original question – what is the gain to conservativism from defeating Trump? Your answer is – no gain. At best a holding action like the last 4 years of Obama – which didn’t work well with a united GOP and is certain to work less well with a fractured GOP. And with the added feature of having to oppose 3 court nominees. I present the legacy of #NT.

          Thanks for an honest answer.

          Ragspierre in reply to edgeofthesandbox. | October 14, 2016 at 6:44 am

          Another in a series of idiot questions by the VaPigman who thinks he’s concocted killers.

          The conservative movement is not advanced by electing Collectivists. Rather, it is retarded.

          Especially when the Collectivist in question is a stinking, lying, PATHOLOGICAL thug, as in T-rump.

          See…???

          There IS no “winning” here for conservatives or the nation. The primary has handed us two shit sandwiches. Reject the ‘choice’.

          VaGentleman in reply to edgeofthesandbox. | October 14, 2016 at 11:51 am

          rags,
          thanks for your plan. It certainly solves the problem with a minimum of thought.

          You can go back to your room now, and try to color within the lines.

          What is gained by conservatives by defeating Trump?
          We are saving our movement from possible extinction.
          If Trump is elected, conservatism is possibly destroyed because he is no conservative. Many former conservatives will sign on to his populist nationalist agenda, something that can be observed today. Others, faced with the choice between national socialism and socialism, will go liberal. Those remaining faithful to conservative ideology will be a minority.
          Unlike Trump, Hillary does not represent an existential threat to conservative movement or the nation. She is more or less a continuation of Obama, whom Congressional GOP have opposed with much success.

I suspect that airing all the tittle tattle a month before the election will neutralize all of it on both sides, leaving things like policy.

I doubt if Hillary can win on policy. All her private policy thoughts are now public. Or will be.

If all this dirt existed for so long, why didn’t Trump’s rivals dig it out in the primaries?

    Because they need to do better opposition research.

      VaGentleman in reply to edgeofthesandbox. | October 13, 2016 at 11:16 pm

      But why didn’t they?

        Oh, I see, you are going to blame this all on Trump’s primary opponents for not doing proper research. Tru googling “self-serving “.

          VaGentleman in reply to edgeofthesandbox. | October 14, 2016 at 6:45 am

          No, edge. I’m not blaming, I’m asking. There were 16 of them, many of them experienced pols, who apparently never looked into their chief opponent’s background. That seems strange. Did they underestimate him that badly and think he wouldn’t get far enough for it to matter? It’s just curious. Probably a PhD dissertation in a couple years.

    Henry Hawkins in reply to VaGentleman. | October 14, 2016 at 9:45 am

    And here we learn VAG is too ignorant of politics to understand the costs of vetting fifteen opponents at the beginning of a primary season. Perhaps he believes all should have known psychically which of the fifteen needed vetting. Yikes.

    Assuming shoddy opposition research by the entire field of Trump’s primary competitors involves some pretty myopic thinking, but that seems to be an amazingly common trait among Trump supporters. Fellow Republicans not diving for the gutter to destroy Trump during the primary season neither validates or invalidates the current crop of allegations, but certainly illustrates the divide between Trumpsters and the rest of the folks who populate the party.

    The incontinent 35% who forced Trump on the party are a minority within a minority that simply cannot comprehend their candidate is flawed beyond redemption. The bar has never been set lower and yet you’re struggling to convince voters that he’s an iota superior to Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton!!

    Now would be a good time to stop pissing on your fellow Republicans who absolutely detest Donald Trump and his army of sycophants, but will probably shred a bit of their souls and cast an anti-Hillary ballot to keep the party alive. You need their votes.

HRC has multiple women who said that HRC raped them while they were teenagers. In short, the claim is that HRC had them tied up and then raped them. Of course, HRC’s pedophilia isn’t news because she is owned by the people who own the papers.

As an example, Cathy O’Brien, said that HRC raped her when Cathy was 13. Does that matter?

http://theothermccain.com/2016/10/13/when-it-rains-it-pours-2/

Read the whole thing.

T-rump is dirty. He’s very, very dirty.

When Donald Trump presided over the Celebrity Apprentice, he had complete control of the boardroom.

But did the future Republican nominee go too far in dealing with the female celebrities? At least one former contestant thinks so.

“Watching him in the boardroom making sexual comments to Marlee Matlin, to all of the women on the Apprentice, it was obvious that that’s just a part of who he is,” says 2011 contestant Richard Hatch. “It was obvious and it was grotesque. It was blatant and it was frequent. He did it with Lisa Rinna; He did it with Marlee Matlin. He did it with whomever happened to be there at the time.”

“He went back and forth with Marlee,” Hatch continues. “No matter how she responded, no matter how politely, he would push it a step further with comments about her looks, and how she was making him feel, and about what he thought of her, and how happy he would be to do something with her.

“It was a lot of innuendo, far beyond the norm. It was odd and weird, and people in the boardroom would look at one another, but he didn’t care. [Matlin] was with her interpreter, Jack, and I thought, ‘Gosh, I wonder if he’s comfortable with this?’”

For more about Donald Trump’s controversial interactions with women, pick up a copy of this week’s PEOPLE, on newsstands Friday

Hatch says Trump even used innuendo in the presence of his daughter.

“He did it in front of Ivanka,” he says. “That was not just uncomfortable for me. It was weird. I was fascinated as a people watcher to think what could possibly be going on in that woman’s mind. He didn’t care that she was there; he didn’t seem afraid that she would hold him accountable or say anything about his boorish behavior. None of that happened. He was just that way, and it didn’t matter to him one bit that his daughter was listening in.”

He’s Da Pig. It’s just who he IS. He’s a New York City thug bred by Roy Cohen, mobster.

    mailman in reply to Ragspierre. | October 14, 2016 at 11:05 am

    Ah, the old “he possibly said something that someone could construe as mean”. The evil, evil bastard! Is there no end to his evilness????

    There is nothing like the smell of desperation from Democrats first thing in the morning.

    43/41. Nuff said 🙂

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