Mika Rips Republicans Who Dumped Trump: ‘Pathetic, Weak, Spineless’
Scarborough: Halfway Through Debate, Republicans Who Jumped Ship Saying ‘Oh . . . Shoot’
The headline’s not a typo: avowed Hillary supporter Mika Brzezinski has torn into Republicans who withdrew their support for Donald Trump over his hot mic comments, calling them “pathetic, weak and spineless.”
On today’s Morning Joe, Mika’s point was that for anyone who had bothered to look, there was, long before Friday, tons of negative material out there about Trump. So anyone pretending to be shocked by the most recent disclosure must have been willfully blind. And based on his strong debate performance last night, Mika predicted that they might now “have to come back.” Joe Scarborough graphically made the same point, saying that “halfway through the debate, they [the dump-Trumpers] were looking at their TV saying oh . . . shoot.”
JOE SCARBOROUGH: And all of those people that jumped ship, about halfway through the debate were looking at their TV saying oh . . . shoot.
MIKA BRZEZINSKI: Something close.
JOE: Because — and again, I know that everybody in the press hates Donald Trump. I’m giving you the reality, if you don’t like it.
MIKA: What he said was horrible.
JOE: Yeah, yeah. He’s horrible, blah, blah, blah. I know, I heard it. I heard it last night. I saw it on Twitter. I understand. You believe he’s an evil man. I’m just giving you the political reality and this is the political reality. That for the Republican base, Donald Trump delivered the attack against the Clinton machine that the Republican base and middle America have been waiting for, for years now. And so good luck being in Pensacola, Florida saying hey, I’m off of Donald Trump or saying in Kansas, oh, I’m not going to be for Donald Trump anymore. Especially when no Republican in America should have been surprised by what they heard on Friday.
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MIKA: If I could finish what I’m saying, because you do need to actually Google him and so do key Republicans who endorsed him and then pulled their endorsements last night like you were so shocked and appalled. This is what put you over the edge? This? You’re pathetic. You’re weak, you’re spineless. And now you you’re going to have to come back, potentially.
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She isn’t incensed they pulled out from supporting Trump BUT that they didn’t pull out until now. Big difference.
She is correct, in that they are spineless by pulling now. We all knew something like this was coming (and more to come). But we’ve known they are spineless for years and years as they have failed to live up to their promises and resist the growth of big government power & regulation and the resulting erosion of liberty and jobs and economy.
However, I suspect they are just trying to sow greater discord amongst the Republican ranks at the end of the day.
Well, good luck with that Mika. I take all my advice from incorrigible progressive media elites.
When I see Mika I’m reminded of how awesome her father was in the wonderful Carter administration. SARCASM!
The dump-Trumpers can crawl back but we have the list and they are toast. There will be primaries and there will be leaks of all the dumb things they have done in the past.
I hope the wavering Republican politicians take note of this small manifestation of the consequences of swallowing whole the media blitz (or, was it those TARP funds?) They either support Trump, and get called deplorable, or refuse to, and get called weak. There will be no reward from this source. Chasing such a reward is pointless.
Meanwhile, it appears the Court of Public Opinion is operating somewhat like a real court. Sometimes, a court will refuse to hear evidence and argument, not because it is not relevant, but because of the source.
The whole country knows why that tape was leaked, and why it was leaked at this time. The whole country also knows who is ultimately responsible for the leak, and that is Hillary Clinton.
Bill Clinton’s bad behavior was largely forgotten, until Hillary brought up DJT’s much lesser sins, in round after round of kerfluffels. Then, the people with the memory reservoirs explained to a whole new generation of voters that Hillary enabled more than one rapist, and used harsh and disrespectful language against Bill Clinton’s victims, much harsher and more disrespectful than anything Trump has said.
A lot of people have decided that they just are not going to hear this argument from this person.
The doctrine of Unclean Hands is alive and well, right now, in American politics.
You mean the ones that “grab ’em by the pussy”…???
REALLY BAD choice of terms, there, counselor.
You are airbrushing out the FACTS of the T-rumpian history of defending and enabling Dollar Bill by you man=crush, AND his attacks on Clinton’s victims.
An AMAZING “campaign conversion” by Da Pig, don’t you agree?
The doctrine of “Unclean Hands” is often applied when unethical people try to smear the reputation of others, as a means of avoiding genuine issues.
Have another doctrine: “Opening the door.” Hillary worked really hard to bring up behaviors that the Democratic Party has busted a gut to classify as “private,” and which could have been left alone. But once she attacked DJT on the basis of his comments about women, then her own record of enabling rape became relevant.
No. Unclean hands is a prime defense in equity. “To resort to equity, one must do equity”. I can’t complain about a breach of fiduciary duty if I’ve induced that duty by fraud.
And you’re avoiding the point. T-rump WAS a big Clinton enabler, AND he attacked publicly the very people he’s now at least PRETENDING to champion.
Your fan-gurl double-standards are pitiful.
Mika please make up your silly mind!
What a complete and total progressive lunatic!
I rarely ever agree with Mika on anything, but she’s right about the “weak, pathetic, spineless” GOP. Trump2016!!!
That’s exactly the reaction sh hopes for.
Of course. That Trump will lose is a given. Now they are working on the downballot Republicans.
Weren’t these two one of the group pushing for Trump to leave after the release of the video?
I pondered yesterday about those who unendorsed Trump reendorsing him.
This is not really that but it comes pretty close.
This is what happens when you do not accurately understand your opponent.
Trump is not a career politician. If he loses this election, he does not lose his job or any future in his chose career. He is a businessman and not a career politician. So, he does not have to take his “future” political career into consideration, as most politicians do. This allows him the freedom to actively fight back when attacked.
The second thing that the political class does not understand is that Trump is a counter-puncher. When someone throws a punch at him, he punches back as hard, or harder. He has proven this throughout the campaigns and his opponents should be aware of it. And, he has proven that he can take a punch and not go down, thanks to that pesky Trumper base.
So, it is not advisable to throw a weak jab at Trump when you have no defense against an answering right hook.
Now, all of these Republican “supporters”, including Mike Pense [who was nothing more than a sop to the RNC by Trump to begin with], who withdrew their support or who actively criticized Trump over his decade-old braggadocio, were simply doing the bidding of their elitist masters. If anyone has any doubt who these career politicians answer to, that has been answered.
It is also interesting that it was a Bush who reportedly released this video, to begin with.
Ragspierre, is there a reason that you have to conclude every comment to a Trump supporter with a personal insult? I understand it if the comment you are responding to included a personal insult, but why when this is not the case? I understand you think Trump is a dangerous liar and unworthy of the presidency. I think the same is true of Hillary. I have more hope with Trump than Hillary and I don’t think we will ever be able to rebound if Hillary wins. I could be wrong about that and you could be right that Trump will be an unmitigated disaster. But, I can not vote (or not vote) in a way that will allow Hillary to take control of the vast administrative power the Presidency brings with it. I respect you Ragspierre. I believe you are a true conservative and a patriot. We just disagree on this one but no matter who wins we will have to get back together to try to save the country.
He is Ignatius Jacques Reilly, the house pet troll/buffoon/Clinton shill so he’s just doing his job. The fact that the moderators tolerate this childish pathology is past troubling and is starting to emit an aroma. If this is actually an avowed Democratic site, please just say so directly, rather than funneling trash talk through your lap dog.
First, I reject your conclusion. I don’t comment at all to a lot of T-rump supporters, especially of the reluctant kind.
I certainly DO comment to those I consider cultists or blind partisans, and I do it often mordantly.
I agree with your final thought, though it will prove very difficult, I’m afraid. T-rump cultists are haters of the first water, and that MAY only get worse as time goes by.
See the moron “Jack”, below.
T-rump cultists are haters of the first water, and that MAY only get worse as time goes by.
As Mark Steyn once noted: one of the ways the GOP makes the Big Tent seem even bigger is to push out those who disagree with them.
Whatever his faults, Trump found a way to bring working class white men back into the party. A smart move by your side would have been to try to find a way to integrate Trump and his followers – or at least co-opt his issues. Instead, Never Trumpers chose insults and abuse, with a heaping helping of hypocrisy (when I hear Never Trumpers go after Hillary! with the same fury and outrage I will be prepared to take their complaints about Trump seriously).
Never Trumpers like Paul Ryan, John McCain, and Mitt Romneycare have made sure the GOP Big Tent will echo like the Grand Canyon for decades to come. Good luck trying to win back the white working class men after this election!
Well, you raise several issues, some of which are simply bullshit, but you opinion.
“A smart move by your side would have been to try to find a way to integrate Trump and his followers – or at least co-opt his issues.”
Let’s start with first principles.
Der Donald CO-OPTED OUR PRINCIPLES. Among those are immigration reform in the sense we control our borders and get control of who is here. Conservatives rightly resent the shit out of this, since Der Donald has been on the OTHER side of this debate as recently as his support for FIVE of the Gang Of Eight, and EVEN NOW proposes what NOBODY can deny is “touch-back AMNESTY”.
He’s experienced “campaign conversions” on any number of CONSERVATIVE issues he’s been on record as opposing. I could list them all, but I doubt it would do the least good. You chose to believe him. I chose to NOT believe him.
Der Donald and Bernie Sanders agree with the AFL-CIO’s trade policy of decades standing. We don’t agree. And NOT agreeing, we’d be untrue to what we DO believe to “co-opt” this stupid policy.
A LOT of what Der Donald says is simply lies. Trade policy in he U.S. has made us RICHER, and by that I mean every swinging dick in the nation. Our standard of living has been going up until the Obamic Decline. We are NOT stupid patsies for the Mexicans, Chinese, or any damn body, as T-rump’s clothing lines and crappy bling attest. Steel made in the U.S. will ONLY be used in new infrastructure if it is competitive in a free market, OR used as a MANDATE by BIG GOVERNMENT, which is what Der Donald proposes. You may want to “co-opt” those lies. “My side” does not. Thanks.
“My side” seeks to teach people correct principles, and let them govern themselves. Der Donald DOES NOT. He believes in the same Collectivist model of installing “brights” who will rule us from on high. He’s said so. I won’t, and “my side” won’t co-opt that idea, either.
So, to cut this WAY shorter than it could be, yeah. There are things conservatives won’t do to fill the “tent”. Including stop being who we are.
And, BTW, you won’t find anyone here who for YEARS has been more critical of Hellary than have I, along with Barracula. So screw that.
Rags: “Let’s start with first principles.Der Donald CO-OPTED OUR PRINCIPLES. Among those are immigration reform in the sense we control our borders and get control of who is here.”
Thanks for making this easy:
1) your strongest argument out of the box is a lie. The GOP promised of THREE times over the course of 20 years that if we would only compromise and accept Amnesty, they would look at securing the border. Not immigration “reform” but securing the border. We agreed each time and each time we were betrayed. So it takes chutzpah to pretend the issue of border control was “stolen” from the GOP. Hell, they wouldn’t even talk about it this campaign until Trump made them.
2) DER Donald? Really? Even you know your argument is weak, else you wouldn’t feel it necessary to prop it up with nazi slurs.
I don’t know what the hell has happened to you Rags. I used to find your analysis interesting. But lately you have just gone full retard. Yah, I’m sorry your Unicorn didn’t win, and it sucks that all we have left is Trump – I wanted Walker and then went to work for Cruz when he started to rise. But they didn’t make it.
If Hillary Clinton wins it will be for 8 years, and see will settle so many amnestied illegals in Red States that it will tip the Electoral College to one-party rule in 2024. There won’t BE an opposition party, much less a 3rd party. It will be over.
You need to pull your thumb out of your mouth and be a man. Make the hard choice, hold your nose and get behind Trump. Because Hillary Clinton is above the law – if she is elected we will fall forever.
You’re deeply confused on a basic level.
I carry NO water for the GOP. The GOP and conservatives are NOT in identity.
You’re also generally full of shit. Romney was an immigration hawk that made Der Donald (he’s a flucking Collectivist) have the vapors over the “harshness” of his plans. But thanks for playing.
Oh, and you’re either lying or you’re completely enthralled and have lost your flucking mind.
“Nobody was talking about immigration before Der Donald”?
With Cruz and Perry in the race? Really? REALLY?
I hate bullshit. I don’t care from what font it spurts in you, you’ve gone gonzo.
Consolidating the white vote is a good idea. Problem is, Trump can’t even begin to understand how to do it. Yes, he’s winning slightly more white working class, but he’s losing everyone else, most notably the white college grad women. Romney won our demographic.
Another problem with Trump is that he has no ground game. Yes, he has those rallies where people go again and again and again. But he forgot to register people to vote. Meanwhile Hillary and crew are turning every gravestone looking for new voters.
You can complain about fraud, ad you should, but at the end of the day your “self-funded” candidate is awfully stingy. He didn’t do his due diligence.
What is the point of this?
LA Times poll: Trump +3 today
WSJ poll: Hillary +13 nationwide.
And I mean, really, why would Trump be +3?
Is there a reason to prefer one poll over another?
LA Times has been a pro-Trump outlier this year. There is a lot of discussion about that poll; you can google it “la times poll”, no point of summarizing it here. There is a lot of temptation to go with the poll one likes, but I learned my lesson four years ago when we were all looking for the bias that, turns out, didn’t exist.
LA Times showed Trump slightly up today. Why? He did better than expected at the debate, but that wouldn’t be reflected yet.
Additionally, other polls from are more in line with WSJ:
It ought not be news nor surprising that concern trolling has made it from the internet to cable news.
This was such a slaughter that 6 owned and operated Democratic sites, CBS New York, Slate, Time, CNBC, Fortune, and The Hill did not conduct online polls because it was just too gory. Mika and the Muppet are just following their noses in their feckless pursuit of meat treats. Like the RINOs who walked away, they are exploring their high developed consciences and we are lucky enough to be part of their journey. But seriously folks, Skinny Jeans Ryan, and my local, McCain, are done. For those who are just too coquettish or complex to decide who they’ll go to the prom with, here is a tool to complement your introspection.
Hillary won the two snap polls after the debate, one marginally (47/42 in YouGov) and one decisively (57/34 in CNN), but I don’t know how much that matters in a month where October surprises are dropping every 48 hours and each new news cycle seems to last eight minutes.
The big polls are showing decisive leads for Hellary.
T-rump lost. He did it himself, and to himself.
Right. Allahpunpit. Draft Jonah Goldberg. Just quote from Salon and be done with Ignatius. Your cover is blown. Wait, confession is only good for those who have a soul.
You’ve blown me, alright.
You will never live long enough to contribute to conservative ANYTHING what Jonah Goldberg has contributed this year…just to date.
The polls say what they say. Facts are HARD for idiots, huh?
I personally think Trump won. Granted, I only saw parts of the debate and I missed him completely mingling the foreign policy part, again, and I missed the “hovering” part.
Scientific polls do show Hillary winning, and some commentators are suggesting that Trump fell so low in the eyes of the American people that he will be perceived as a loser no matter what.
Paul Ryan may be Donelle T-wamp’s (thin-skinned pubescent mean girl) newest Tar-Baby, post-debate.
How must energy will be expended on THIS stupidity?
America’s great populist experiment of the 21st century is over.
For the Democrats, it ended gracefully with Sen. Bernie Sanders’s (Vt.) quirky concession to Hillary Clinton; for the Republicans, it was as sordid and humiliating as the way it began with Donald Trump on the day he announced his run, descending from a glass escalator in Manhattan.
One can hope that the nationalist populist Collective is now toes-up, and we can return to solid conservative thinking and ideology.
“One can hope that the nationalist populist Collective is now toes-up, and we can return to solid conservative thinking and ideology.”
That’s been working so well…
“solid conservative thinking ” = bend over for the collectivists.
You’ll need to listen to that to even begin to appreciate what I’m talking about.
“One can hope that the nationalist populist Collective is now toes-up, and we can return to solid conservative thinking and ideology”
You’re delusional. After the betrayal of the Tea Party and then these GOPe weasels jumping ship? You think it will back to business as usual? LOL. We are going to burn the party to the ground Rags and start from scratch. Get out of the way or burn with them.
Day 1 of a Hillary presidency, I’m going to go to work for the Dem Opposition Research teams. And I’m taking 20 years of files from my time working for the GOP. I can deal with Dems spitting in my face, but being stabbed in the back by my own party? Those weasels can’t be allowed to capitalize on their treachery.
Don’t get comfy. There are a ton of people like me, just as pissed off, and we are going to bring war to the GOP.
Cool wid me. Burn, bring war, whateves…
But you might want to get some anti-gonzo therapy first, so you’re at least doing it for the right reasons.
T-rump lost this election. Himself. Not the GOP. T-rump.
NOw, there’s plenty we alllll agree the GOP is accountable for, and that needs addressing. As I’ve said here thousands of times.
But T-rump is on T-rump.
Mika, the broken watch, is correct twice a day.
But otherwise, who cares what the corrupt dodo has to say?
I may be mistaken but, when in 2005 DJT used the P-word, in my mind at least, is that he was referring to the Pussy, Paul Ryan.
How may times has he changed his mind now? Anyone? Anyone?