HuffPo’s Surprising Sam Stein: Trump Supporters ‘Very Nice, Kind, No Blood in the Streets’
Scarborough: MSM Always Finds Rage Only on Republican Side
Huffington Post is the site that embarrassed itself by refusing for months to take the Trump candidacy seriously, relegating Trump coverage to its Entertainment section while explaining to readers that the Trump campaign was simply a “sideshow.”
So it’s notable that it was HuffPo’s Sam Stein, of all people, who testified to the decency of Trump supporters on today’s Morning Joe, saying he found them “kind, very nice” and that there was no “blood in the streets.” Stein and Joe Scarborough contrasted the decency ofTrump supporters with the scare story on the front page of today’s New York Times, headlined “Some Donald Trump Voters Warn of Revolution if Hillary Clinton Wins.”
In contrast, Hillary supporter Donny Deutsch spoke of the “rage” among Trump supporters. Scarborough shot back that there is rage on both sides, but that the national media “only sees it through their own goggles. There’s only rage on one side all the time.”
SAM STEIN: So I was at a rally. We were attending a Trump rally in Springfield, Ohio, and we were just talking to a bunch of attendees about what happens potentially on the day after the election. The New York Time had this big story about rioting in the streets. First of all: the people at the Trump rally: kind people. They don’t care about rioting. They understand the stakes of the election, they’re very invested in it. There’s no blood in the streets.
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JOE SCARBOROUGH: You’re exactly right, Sam. And I want to thank you. I’m serious about this. I want to thank you for what you say about Trump supporters. I read stories on the front page of the New York Times, which is a paper I love and respect and read every day. It is my paper that I read every day. But when I see headlines “Trump backers see revolution if Clinton wins,” it’s deeply insulting to people like my brother, people like Nicolle [Wallace’s] parents and to the people that you see and the people that most people see when you go out to these rallies. Yes, there’s always bad apples in every crowd but to suggest that they are, like, these people, the Bundys, who I just can’t even begin to imagine how any jury on this planet could acquit those people. I’m sure that all of the jurors were talking about they love the constitution. How about the rule of law? There is no such thing as rule of law I guess in that. It’s just absolutely staggering to me that the jury acquitted all those defendants in the case who just basically spit at the rule of law. But anyway, Sam, back to your point, there’s going to be no blood in the streets. And it’s deeply offensive that the national media is pushing this narrative.
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DONNY DEUTSCH: Is it beyond the palm [sic, pale?] having seen, yes, a few bad apples, some of the rage. You talk to the reporters who have been at every one of these rallies, some of the great reporters on this show all the time, and they say–Joe, let me finish please. They say they feel it. So, no, do I think they’re going to be —
JOE: They feel it. They feel it.
DONNY: Joe, is there no rage?
JOE: Yes, there’s rage. There is rage on both sides. There is rage on both sides.
DONNY: Joe, you’re saying the rage is equal on both sides? I guess I’ve been watching something very different.
JOE: Yes. You go to — Donny, if you’re going to let me talk here. If you talk to people, reporters who actually dared to cross Bernie Sanders and the things that were said by Bernie Sanders supporters, who we love and respect Bernie, there was rage there. There’s rage on both sides. But the national media only sees it through their own goggles. There’s only rage on one side all the time. And there’s only one party that ever believes elections are fixed. Forget the fact that we’ve only won two elections, Republicans, in like 87 years and Democrats freaked out and said we fixed both of them.
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STEIN: So it could be just that I’m in Ohio and people are super nice, but we talked to, like, maybe two dozen people about what — we asked them the question. Let’s say, hypothetically, you wake up November 9th and your guy has lost. What is that day like for you?
And of course any reporting is anecdotal, but these people were by and large understanding of how democracy works. Respectful of the electoral process. They do think that there’s some tilting on the scales for Hillary Clinton when it comes to media coverage and so on and so forth, but they said life goes on. I have other things in my life that I have to worry about. Jobs. Health care. Religion. Stuff like that. And I recognize that I’m going to have to go back and I’ll have to work doubly hard to elect Republicans in 2018, 2020.
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Rioting is a treat of the left.
The media can spin the facts all they want, but it’s liberals behind 99% of all political violence.
Political violence in the US used to be a phenomenon of the left. Until this year, when Trump introduced it to the right. Since he’s a typical leftist who imagines that the right is characterised by violence, he embraced it as part of his rightist act, and his followers made it real. Unfortunately we can no longer say that violence has nothing to do with us, because it’s no longer true. Even after Trump is gone I fear this plague will remain with us; it’s hard to get rid of once it takes hold.
But the left still has a big advantage in the violence stakes, simply because they’ve had decades of practice, so they’re good at it. They’re professional thugs, while the Trumpeters are amateurs.
I was going to respond to that comment with a refutation of its errors and logical fallacies, but then I read your succinct reply. In one word you made my efforts unnecessary. Thank you.
So, let me see if understand you. It was Trump supporters who shut down the Trump rally in Chicago. It has been Trump supporters who have been chasing down and beating other Trump supporters. It has been Trump supporters who have been defacing and destroying Trump buildings and his star on the Walk of Fame. And, I suppose that it is possible that Trump supporters firebombed the GOP offices in NC. Gee, all this time I thought that this was being done by Trump OPPONENTS. Who knew.
No, those weren’t Trump supporters. Those were leftist thugs, who are good at this, having lots of experience. But it was Trump supporters who beat up anti-Trump protesters, and it was Trump himself who explicitly encouraged them and told them to do it. And it was Trump supporters who went after Ben Shapiro, Bethany Mandel, David French, etc, and their families, and so many more, making their lives a misery.
Do you get your info from alt.reality?
You don’t know what Donald Trump imagines.
I respectfully submit, those are not the actions of Liberals, but of collectivists, or elitists. The people who are pleased to think they should be allowed to overrule the decisions of ordinary adults “for their own good” are not Liberal, any more than they are Conservative. They have wandered from name to name, from fascist (that once was a respectable term) and communist to Liberal and progressive. Each time, they have destroyed the name by taking perverse positions.
Classical Liberals still think that ordinary people, all of them, have the right to self-determination and equal protection under the laws.
When the government loses it’s legal and moral authority anything can happen. If Hillary steals the election, something crazy could happen.
Also, with the economy teetering across the globe – a Big Reset could be just over the horizon regardless of who wins.
Yes, as in I find myself enjoying the feds taking a beating in the Bundy trial, without regard to the underlying merits.
That feeling is exactly the same as I used to get whenever I heard of the USSR suffering some loss.
All of which brings this clarity: To me, the federal government is my enemy. Why should I do anything to support it?
Even very nice and kind people have their breaking point.
If Trump loses nothing will happen, Republicans, Christians, Conservatives, Libertarians don’t have the time or the energy to riot. WE HAVE JOBS, sometimes more than one job!
If Trump loses buy ammo, not because we have to fear riots but because the Demoncrats will continue to riot and the Grubernment will soon be coming for us!
94 million people do not have jobs. That should be enough to get started.
What is funny is that Bernie ran his entire campaign on the idea of a political revolution. To have a revolution means you want to uproot the status quo. But there are always people who want to preserve the status quo. That conflict means revolutions are often violent.
Did The New York Times hyperventilate about Bernie stoking a revolution?
What you missed this morning by watching MSNBC was CNN at the sae time doing its level best to paint Trump rallies as hyper-violent and dangerous. And the beat goes on….
Absolutely! CNN was in hyper drive this morning talking about the violence that will occur if Trump loses the election.
It goes along with the phony story out this morning that the Trump campaign is trying to suppress the votes of black’s and women. This came from a “high level unnamed Trump campaign source”. Oh please………….
Who would tell this to a Bloomberg reporter?
The people who support Trump’s candidacy are not inherently violent. They are committed to a bloodless revolution at the ballot box. But, make no mistake, this is a revolution. It is an attempt, by the majority, to change the ideology pervading the governments of this country, because the majority is fed up with bearing the brunt of the damage caused by the irresponsible decisions, made by the governments, and being ignored when they express their displeasure.
That the Trump supporters are conducting this revolution non-violently, while adhering to the rules inherent in our civilization is illuminating. There is no evidence that Trump supporters are engaged in any attempt at physical intimidation or vote fraud or fixing. They are intent upon simply exercising their right to change the course of the nation, by casting a single vote.
Now, here is the reason that the liberal, establishment media is concerned about the possibility of post election violence from Trump supporters. If the Trump supporters are defeated fairly, at the polls, they will probably abide by the decision of the majority. However, if the contest is decided by illegal means, such as fraud, then they may well be encouraged to decide that the rules governing civilized behavior no longer apply and act accordingly. The moral values of the Trump supporters and the Establishment seem to differ markedly, with the Establishment adhering to a value set where anything is permissible, if it allows the Establishment to achieve its desires. If the majority feels that the Establishment has utilized illegal, or even improper, means to secure an electoral win, then it is unclear exactly how they will respond. This response could be violence. And THAT is what scares the media. Media personalities realize that Hillary can not win on a straight vote. So, they expect there to be illegal means used, such as vote fraud. And, they fear the response if such proves true.
It is an attempt by a minority to maintain their illusion of power. See, the way this works is that there are less of you. Therefore you are a minority and a shrinking one at that.
Let’s start with the FACT that Obama got more than 50% of the vote TWICE. Let’s also state the fact that 1.4 Million more people vote for Democrats than Republicans in 2014 Congressional elections.
Let’s finish with the FACT that Montana gets the same number of Senators as California.
I am not arguing that the last 2 are an injustice. It is the law of the land until such time as the Constitution is amended (if it ever is). But they are all evidence that you are not the majority. Get it? You have power beyond your proportion of the population. For now.
“You have power beyond your proportion of the population. For now.”
The founders feared the tyranny of the majority as much as a tyranny of kings. Justifiably and thankfully. Your comment make it clear, you prefer tyranny, where 51% can vote the other 49% slaves.
The real point of the show was to give the impression that Donald Trump will lose and getting people to think past the sale. They are trying to demoralize potential Trump voters because there is nothing positive to say about Hillary
It’s interesting that Hillary wasn’t asked at the debate if SHE would abide by the election results. And this show is not asking how her supporters will react if SHE loses.
She hasn’t suggested otherwise. Trump has.
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