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FBI Hillary investigation bombshell is why we should not have early voting

FBI Hillary investigation bombshell is why we should not have early voting

It’s too late for some people to change their minds.

Now that the Weinergate story has broken, how many early voters may wish they could go back and change their votes? We’ll never know and it doesn’t matter because they can’t do it. This is a perfect example of why we shouldn’t have early voting.

The practice has the potential to encourage fraud because campaigns can analyze early voting data and know where they need stronger turnout on election day.

The Wall Street Journal provides a look at how early voting is going so far:

Early Voting Bolsters Hillary Clinton in Key States

Democrat Hillary Clinton appears to have a slight edge over Republican rival Donald Trump in a number of battleground states and among important demographic groups based on an analysis of the millions of votes already cast both at polling places and by absentee ballot.

Mrs. Clinton is seeing positive signs of enthusiasm in such states as Florida and Nevada. She is also seeing strong turnout rates in the early vote from Latinos and women.

But Mr. Trump may have an advantage in the midwestern battlegrounds of Ohio and Iowa, where Democratic voter interest appears to be flagging compared with the 2012 presidential, records show.

According to data compiled by the United States Elections Project and the Associated Press, at least 17 million votes had already been cast as of Friday. Early voting is under way in a number of top-tier battlegrounds including Florida, Nevada, Iowa and North Carolina. Absentee voting has been happening in some form in every state, thanks to laws that require military and overseas ballots to be ready by September.

CNN also reports that early voting is benefiting Hillary:

Early voting update: More than 12.6 million votes cast

Democrats have nearly erased the disadvantage they previously faced in Florida and have improved upon 2012’s numbers in Nevada as millions of Americans vote early.

Democrats have also improved their position in Colorado and Arizona compared to this point in 2012, according to a CNN analysis of the latest early voting numbers.

Republicans, meanwhile, appear to be in a slightly better position in Iowa and North Carolina — where the electorate includes more whites at this stage than it did at the same point in 2012.

These findings represent absentee ballots and early votes cast by more than 12.6 million Americans across 37 states where data are available. CNN has partnered with Catalist, a data company that works with progressive candidates and groups, to receive detailed early vote return information this year. Catalist’s voter list connects returned ballots with demographic and registration information, such as party registration, gender and age, and allows a closer look at who has already cast a vote.

Here’s a video report from FOX News which pretty much confirms the reports above:

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“It’s too late for some people to change their minds.”

True of anytime you leave a polling place.


    dystopia in reply to Ragspierre. | October 29, 2016 at 10:41 am

    People seem to perceive your remark as mean spirited.

      Ragspierre in reply to dystopia. | October 29, 2016 at 10:52 am

      Yah. Stating a true thing rubs some people the wrong way. Pretty much something you can count on in life.

        CloseTheFed in reply to Ragspierre. | October 29, 2016 at 11:50 am

        Ragspierre needs therapy. Serious therapy.

        Reading his writing here is like walking into an acid shower, and totally out of place. His bitterness belongs in a group therapy meeting.

          Ragspierre in reply to CloseTheFed. | October 29, 2016 at 11:58 am

          Proving my point. Any heresy from the GroupThink is dealt with as a “sickness”, and attacked with venom.

          There is no “bitterness” in stating a truthful observation.

          Rags: “Any heresy from the GroupThink is dealt with as a sickness, and attacked with venom”

          And that would be a valid point if it were made by anyone other than you. Listening to you complain about venomous responses to GroupThink is like hearing Tony Soprano whine about getting robbed.

          Ragspierre in reply to CloseTheFed. | October 29, 2016 at 12:27 pm

          Another good member of the Collective, piling on. What did I say that was NOT true?

          Nothing. It was just not the “acceptable” thing. And I said it. You can count on it in the future, too, kiddies.

          OnlyRightDissentAllowed in reply to CloseTheFed. | October 29, 2016 at 1:47 pm

          Sad to say, I am one of the few here who agree with you.

          We should never actually hold a vote because you could always learn something the next day. As Trump said,
          “We should cancel the election and appoint him President.”

          I strongly suspect that this article would never have been written if Trump was leading. We all know that he could say or tweet something really, really stupid at any moment.

          Rags: “What did I say that was NOT true?”

          Reading comprehension, please. I said that while your point was valid, you don’t have the right to say it. Again, you are Tony Soprano complaining about getting robbed.

          You are Lucy, upset that someone yanked the football as you kicked.

          You are Bill Clinton, trying to lecture us on the evils of sexual predation in the workplace.

          You are Hillary Clinton, reminding us to keep all government records intact for potential FOIA requests.

          You are Al Gore, complaining about my carbon footprint.

          You are Bernie Sanders, preaching about the poor from the comfort of your 3rd million dollar house.

          Do I really need to go on? I can do this all day….

          Ragspierre in reply to CloseTheFed. | October 29, 2016 at 4:36 pm

          Churn insane lies? Yeah, awe all have seen your awe inspiring capacity.

          You’re good…

        Milwaukee in reply to Ragspierre. | October 29, 2016 at 3:18 pm

        Wow. This is the season to be at each other’s throats, instead, of you know, the enemy. “The gods first make mad whom they would destroy.” How did a tautology become a polemic?

        I down thumbed it because it was stating the obvious. Duh.

          Ragspierre in reply to Milwaukee. | October 29, 2016 at 3:29 pm

          “I down thumbed it because it was stating the obvious. Duh.”

          Except obviously NOT to our ThoughtPolicing buddies here. It was not only NOT obvious, but a ThoughtCrime.

    “True of anytime you leave a polling place.”

    Of course. Same thought I had when I saw this mentioned somewhere else.

    I do not like early voting. It allows the corrupt to know precisely where to concentrate their vote rigging. Which is why the damnocrats really, really like it. There should be an absolute seal on any data from early voting.

DieJustAsHappy | October 29, 2016 at 10:58 am

There’s early voting. Didn’t exist previously. Now, it begins earlier and earlier in some states. Then, there’s the manner in which it’s treated by the media and political analysts. I’m sure that in the mind of some there is a “Why in the h*ll am I even voting if the election has been called?!”

To me, especially as the emphasis is made concerning the Electoral College, there is a sense of disenfranchisement for persons not in one of the “critical” states.

If most early voters are like the ones I know, they are the truest of believers and sycophants.

Granny could drag a toddler out of the crowd, club it to death like a baby seal, then eat it’s entrails and it wouldn’t be enough.

Trump could grab the same toddler and rape the child while giving one of his red-meat speeches and it would be the same for the ‘early voters’.

Rest assured however, the reaction from the Establishment Press would be completely different!

    OnlyRightDissentAllowed in reply to MJN1957. | October 29, 2016 at 2:04 pm

    “Rest assured however, the reaction from the Establishment Press would be completely different!”

    Just your perception would be different. The NYTimes reported on the ‘new’ emails even though the FBI has not said they were from Hillary’s Server or written by Hillary or classified. You could add that the FBI doesn’t usually comment on an ongoing investigation.

    I have an idea you guys would love. Let’s postpone the election until the FBI concludes its investigation. Obama could just continue. Hopefully, the FBI could investigate indefinitely. All in favor? The ayes have it.

Yay Electoral College!

Agree with you about early voting. Saying that, here in Florida more Republicans than democrats have voted combined in early voting and absentee voting. Also, NPA voters are now 20% of the total vote in Florida. I don’t see them coming out in drives for Crooked Hillary. Quite a few democrats are secretly voting for Trump while voting for democrats in every other race. The bottom line is that Hillary is not liked and there is ZERO enthusiasm for her!

    CloseTheFed in reply to natdj. | October 29, 2016 at 11:53 am

    Natdj: What are NPA voters? Not picking up on it… Thanks.

      NPA is No Party Affiliation. In fact Obama and Crooked Hillary campaigning here in Orlando. This late in the game probably shows she is losing which is the consensus here in Florida.

It’s too late to change your vote; it’s never too late to change your mind. Even though voters almost never do, and most obviously when the candidates are what one might call “big” personalities. What changes are the polls, and that would be quite a mystery … if in fact the polls really had all that much to do with the vote.

Joe Biden’s reaction. Pure gold.

There are some states where early voters are allowed to switch.

Anybody who didn’t realize until yesterday that Hillary Clinton is a liar and a crook hasn’t been paying attention for the past several decades.

I already cast my vote in AZ, and I don’t regret it. Of course, I didn’t vote for corrupt and dishonest Hillary . . . .

    True. These people already know how corrupt Hillary is. They are fine with it because they believe her tyranny will be directed at the people they hate. These are the Little Eichmanns who will support the Party while it does horrible things to their neighbors.

    And you want to be civil with them?

    smalltownoklahoman in reply to Observer. | October 29, 2016 at 10:12 pm

    This! Probably the best comment on this whole situation! She is a crook, always has been, always will be and anyone who’s been paying attention at all knows it! That she has any chance of winning at all says appalling things about the state of the country!

Shouldn’t the same sentiment apply to newspaper endorsements? I’ve missed the stories where all the newspapers that endorsed Clinton are now changing their minds. /sarcoff

    Ragspierre in reply to ksevens. | October 29, 2016 at 11:52 am

    On what basis would they change? Nothing is evident today that was not evident months ago. There is some new chaff in the air, but nothing solid or even different.

    Hellary Clinton is a awful, terrible, really bad person. One of two in the race.

      “Hellary Clinton is a awful, terrible, really bad person. One of two in the race”

      There are two differences:

      1) Hillary Clinton is above the Rule of Law. Trump is not. They will impeach him for the things they will let her get away with

      2) Trump will either reform the GOP Establishment or kill it off. Hillary will let it fester, because she recognizes that its corruption weakens her opposition.

I give voters enough credit to know that early voting might mean premature voting.

I stood in an early voting line on Wednesday (I have to; I’m working at the polls on election day). The guy behind me, obviously a Democrat, tried to convince me that the NC Voter ID law, which the Fourth Circuit threw out, was aimed at suppressing black votes when it reduced the number of early voting days (while keeping the same number of total early voting hours). That doesn’t make sense, of course. But he was shocked when I told him I oppose early voting entirely. Either vote absentee or show up on election day. He’s from New York, he said. I pointed out that in New York there is no early voting, only absentee. Is that aimed as suppressing minority votes? He had no good answer.

I saw a lot of people in the line clutching Republican voter guides.

I have argued against early voting, too. Absentee ballots are the answer if you cannot vote on election day. I have also argued that there is something unifying if we all go to the polls on the same day to elect our national leaders.

The Democrats were incensed after Bush won Florida in 2000. My take is that he probably would not have won Florida if there were no early voting because the DUI story came out 3 days before the election.

At the retirement home I work at, one resident voted early…
And died.

The MSM will blame Hillary’s loss on the FBI. But the truth is in actual mail in and early voting numbers released by the states… Trump in way ahead of where Romney was and Clinton is way behind Obama in Fl, NC, NV and Ohio.

In this election, I really do not think that much of anything can really sy 80% of the voters. They made up their minds long ago, largely along ideological lines, not on personalities.

So, here we are 11 days from the general election. Early and absentee voting, based upon party affiliation, seems to show that Trump is running neck and neck with Clinton. And, it is expected that significantly more Trump voters will actually show up on election day than Clinton voters. Also, it seems that the “Dems are going to commit vote fraud” meme is having a prophylactic effect, as it was supposed to.

So, if you are an Establishment strategist and your candidate would most likely lose a fair election, what do you do to salvage your long term goals? Might you find a way so as to make it appear that an “October Surprise” robbed her of the election, rather than a voter mandate for her opponent? After all, you still control the Congress. And, it might be possible to make a deal with Trump, especially if you can make a case that he does not have a mandate from the people, because of the October Surprise. But, even if a deal proves impossible, control of the Congress means that the Establishment agenda is still under Establishment control.

Sound far fetched? Maybe. But, you have to remember that this contest is not between Hillary and the Donald. It is not between Democrats and Republicans. It is not between liberals and conservatives. It is between Establishment and Anti-Establishment ideologies and the Establishment controls most of the politicians on the national level.

The reason why Comey released this “new” information at this time is still unclear. So, it is possible to speculate wildly as to the purpose behind it. And, the purpose is important, as it will ultimately identify the players involved. So, we wait and see what happens in the next few days.

Before early voting, election day was going to eclipse Thanksgiving as the nation’s busiest travel day.

After all, it’s tough to vote in the morning when the polls open in Florida and then have to catch your flight to NYC before the polls close in the evening.

The biggest problem with early voting is the opportunities for voting fraud. I doubt that in countries where voting is monitored by international agencies early voting would be tolerated. Early voting lends to boxes of ballots being “unexpectedly” discovered. Or miscreants voting multiple times.

    randian in reply to Milwaukee. | October 30, 2016 at 7:51 pm

    Early voting also enables boxes of ballots to be surreptitiously destroyed. There’s a lot less oversight by poll watchers regarding the handling of early votes vs election day votes.

“At the retirement home I work at, one resident voted early…
And died.”

That’s nothing. At retirement homes across the country, many are dying… then voting.