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Will FBI recommend prosecuting Hillary? (READER POLL)

Will FBI recommend prosecuting Hillary? (READER POLL)

A time for choosing.

So much speculation lately.

From Loretta Lynch’s impromptu, it-just-happened, guess-who-I-bumped-into private sit down with Bill Clinton, her saying she’s staying out of it but maybe not, to Hillary’s interview with the FBI, to supposed leaks by “sources” in both directions.

The QUESTION IS NOT whether you want the FBI to recommend Hillary be prosecuted.

The QUESTION IS whether you think the FBI will recommend Hillary be prosecuted.

Get it? The Reader Poll question is not what you want to happen, but what you think will happen.

It’s Yes or No. A time for choosing. No “undecided” allowed. Make a choice, the FBI has to.

The poll will be open until Noon Eastern on Tuesday, July 5, 2016.


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Wing_attack_Plan_R | July 3, 2016 at 7:38 pm

The reason I voted no was only because I believe politics will trump the law in this matter. So sad Nixon wasn’t around today where top-tier politicians are now above the law

    DINORightMarie in reply to Wing_attack_Plan_R. | July 3, 2016 at 11:38 pm

    Wrong party. They would never have gone after HHH (that would be Hubert Humphrey to all you young’uns).

    Reminder: Nixon was a Republican.

    Even in 1972, the Democrats were ideologically-driven. Only Republicans would (and DO, today) suffer at the hands of the lynch-mob MSM and Democrats…

      The ‘suffering’ of the Republicans at the hands of the corrupt MSN is strictly voluntary.

      Until we don’t tolerate the crying boehners and worms like Ryan and McConnell, we have nothing to complain about.

Since you didn’t have a “Hell NO” button, I just voted “No”.

Logged in, but no Yes/No buttons visible.

    assemblerhead in reply to Daiwa. | July 3, 2016 at 8:00 pm

    look for Javascipt being blocked. That’s the poll.

      Running only Disconnect and ABP (only on this particular computer, allow ads on two others) using Firefox. No poll buttons on another rig using Chrome, either. Both have Disconnect. Neither have NoScript or other script blockers per se. Not a big deal but curious. Thx

        Hi Daiwa, ABP blocks Poll Daddy, so just use “temporarily allow all this page.” It will show up, and when you close the tab, it will revert to your ABP settings. 🙂

Absolutely not.

It would set a bad precedent. Laws only apply to the little people and enemies of the Democratic party.

assemblerhead | July 3, 2016 at 8:02 pm

Obama wants a nightmare of a court/rule-of-law/national-security mess to explode in the next President’s face.

The FBI will follow orders.

Never underestimate the spite of the president and his long struggle with the Clintons. The one way to make sure of his legacy is to spike the legacy of the one who came before him. The Dems have Bernie waiting in the wings to step into her smoking shoes before the bucket of water even dries off the cobblestones (OZ reference), so there’s no real downside to him letting the FBI do what the law demands.

Optimistically, I voted yes.

The FBI can recommend all it wants.
There should be a second poll, saying that “IF yes, do you think the DoJ will indict?”
The answer there is “No”, as this political DOJ will never allow the Democratic candidate to be punished.

Somebody will be prosecuted, it just won’t be Hillary.

Thank you for that picture. I’m stealing it—with attribution.

The “source” *ahem* came from CNN yesterday that said she wouldn’t be indicted. The source spoke up about two minutes after Hillary’s interview was completed. No way in hell they could make their decision without processing what she said

    That depends entirely on how they have the criminal investigation laid out. I’ve seen this in other prosecutions before, where the prosecuting attorney (usually a high-level ADA) will want to “cross all his t’s and dot all his i’s” by interviewing a potential defendant before he makes a decision not to seek an indictment, even though he has made a decision not to indict. It’s usually the “yes we did EVERYTHING we were supposed to” act so that an opponent doesn’t come in later and say “well, you didn’t even ATTEMPT to talk to her.”

    It usually happens in “politically inconvenient” cases where the crime is badly defined and the individual can claim a lack of knowledge (which I know isn’t an element of the offenses here, but still holds sway).

    I actually think that the FBI will recommend that she be prosecuted, but I think that DOJ will offer her a “lesser” quick plea to something less than 1 felony of mishandling classified information with the punishment being a small fine (maybe $100,000), and Clinton will then be able to say “Well, I did it wrong, but I didn’t mean to, and see it was so little that the DOJ offered me a plea to a fine.”

    She’ll then be able to claim “the whole thing is behind me, and we should all move on.”

There is no way under the sun that anyone in this administration will recommend indictment for Hilly and endanger the legacy of The One; It. Ain’t. Gonna. Happen. Did she commit serious Federal crimes? Absolutely, without doubt. Is she wealthy and well-connected? Of course. Will Obama countenance her indictment and prosecution? Not on your life! The new meme is: Hilly didn’t “intend” to do anything illegal, so she’s not guilty. THAT’s the story that will be told, and that will be the end of the sordid tale.

    Milhouse in reply to dogbert. | July 4, 2016 at 12:32 am

    The FBI is not the administration. It’s its own little fiefdom, and while it is probably, like the CIA, 100% Democrat, that doesn’t mean it’s loyal to whichever Democrat happens to be in the Oval Office.

    That’s the surrogates and media trying to run interference with the masses of Low Information Voters (LIVs). LIVs will buy that explanation because it ~sounds~ rational.

    LIVs very rarely understand the concept of “strict liability” where actus reus with no mens rea still creates culpability.

    Here, the simple act of mishandling classified information, even if she didn’t KNOW it was classified is sufficient for a Felony conviction (whether she SHOULD have known is not relevant either).

The FBI will charge her with running a “pay to play” operation with the Clinton Foundation as the collection agent.

Nope – we will hear all about how “it would not be a wise thing, too partisan appearing, to charge someone for accidental conduct that had no wrongful intentions.”

    And that will immediately become the defense of every other defendant ever charged with mishandling classified information (civilian or governmental).

    Military attorney specialists in the private sector in particular will make a boatload off of defending military individuals against involuntary separation actions for mishandling information.

If she is not prosecuted it makes me think of the old saying about feeding the tree of liberty. How much does it take for the people to say “enough?”

Hilary is assuming that either she wins the presidency or Obama pardons her on his way out. If that doesn’t happen I would hope Trump cleans house at DoJ (actually I hope he does that even if Obama pardons her) to clear the way for prosecuting her.

    If Obama pardons her, there’s no prosecuting her later. PERIOD.

    I hope that if Trump is elected that he cleans out the DOJ anyway. That place has become a cesspool in the last eight years where policy overrides protocol and crimes are often “overlooked” when the Accused or the Complaining Witness isn’t the right race.

Pettifogger | July 3, 2016 at 9:07 pm

The law no longer burdens the clerisy. It is merely a tool for controlling the government’s subjects.

Humphrey's Executor | July 3, 2016 at 9:16 pm

Yes, but Obama will scoff at the idea of charging her with “hyper-technical” violations of the law and issue a blanket pardon.

No, I have no faith in the justice system in this case. Hillary believes herself above the law because they have and will continue to treat her that way.

I voted “Yes” because I think the fix is in, just not the way that everyone else seems to think it is.

There will be an indictment, but it will not occur until after the convention, once Hillary has officially won the nomination.

Hillary gets indicted and is forced to drop out of the race, “…for the good of the country.” Naturally, there will be an Obama partisan waiting in the wings to take her place. (Right now I’m betting on Biden or Kerry, although Jarret or even Michelle O are possible choices.)

Obama finally has his revenge, and is left as the only non-disgraced Dem ex-president other than Carter. (And Carter hasn’t been looking too good lately…)

    katiejane in reply to Aonghus. | July 3, 2016 at 9:32 pm

    I could almost believe this scenario except it’s hard to believe the Dems would think they could slide in someone like Biden and not run the risk of turning off the Sanders voters.

    I do think good ole bland Joe Biden would do better than Kerry – he could be a safe landing place for Republicans who hate Trump.

    Obama probably would see this as one final poke in the Clinton eye without getting his own hands dirty.

    Paul in reply to Aonghus. | July 3, 2016 at 11:26 pm

    Obama’s not disgraced? Now that is some funny shit right there.

      Aonghus in reply to Paul. | July 4, 2016 at 3:12 am

      Small quibble on phrasing. Obama IS a disgrace, but so far he has not BEEN disgraced.

DieJustAsHappy | July 3, 2016 at 9:38 pm

My gut says, “Yes.” However, what would be done with such a recommendation is another matter.

    That is where I come in as well. The evidence available to the public is quite damning… which I’m pretty certain I could get a conviction on (me, an out of work software developer with zero legal training)… it will however end up first in the hands of the ‘career prosecutors’ in the DoJ to decide as to whether they should bring charges… and it is there where I think they will take a pass… in the exact opposite way of Mike Nifong & Marilyn Mosby, where unlike where the DoJ was handed a slam dunk case, they opted to bend to political pressures.

Richard Aubrey | July 3, 2016 at 10:09 pm

I wonder how many of the DOJ “career” folks are seeing kiddy pr0n popping up on their computers.

    Zachary in reply to Richard Aubrey. | July 3, 2016 at 11:02 pm

    Lol nice one.

    When I hear that term, “career” being thrown around all I hear is “careerist.”

    My guess is that the Clinton folks have a VERY complete listing of all the “career” employees at DOJ and have been VERY thorough with determining exactly WHO will be making the decisions over there.

    DOJ Internal Investigations had better be checking on family to the 3rd degree of consanguinity for “suspicious financial activity.”

    I’m just SURE that WJClinton and LLynch were just talking about the grandkids. Just talking about how if the right decision gets made, how those grandkids will grow up in a world where they get to go to Harvard for free, and come out with enough money to retire by the time they’re 25, with estates large enough that the family will never have to work again.

Obama has her pardon waiting and ready for dating and signing.

Then she can run as the “First Female Felon(Pardoned) President!”

Historic, don’t ya know?


JackRussellTerrierist | July 3, 2016 at 10:33 pm

Comey will be the fall guy. If the FBI refers the case, Lynch will scuttle it and claim Comey sent her a lousy case. Don’t forget, Comey is a Republican.

No. The rot runs deep and it involves the Clinton Foundation.

The entire democrat party machine is involved along with many republicans.

HRC is just the tip of the iceberg.

This is impossible to tell. We know the main players in the FBI want to indict her, and the main players in the DoJ do not.

A lot will depend on the balls of the FBI investigators and whether they want to release statements like “Lynch appointess are the only thing that stands in the way of an indictment”.

    I think that they will.

    This is big enough that IF Comey sends a recommendation for indictment AND Lynch sits on it, Comey will offer a “noisy resignation” and one of his subordinates will conveniently leave copies of the ENTIRE file on a desk on a day when Fox News, PJ Media and MercuryONE is invited to tour the office.

    The release of the entire, unredacted file will be enough for outside legal criminal prosecutors to start showing the political interference.

Tough spot for the FBI.

Unlike Justice, we don’t expect the FBI to do a “reset” when the administration changes. So if FBI announces something we all know to be absurd—that no recommendation for indictment is forthcoming because Hillary is innocent as a lamb—it’s stuck with that blot on its curriculum vitae in perpetuity.

The best way to get Hillary off while limiting damage to the federal government is probably for FBI to recommend indictment, thus salvaging FBI’s reputation, and for Justice to take no action. This risks nothing but a reputation for effectiveness and square dealing which the Obama Justice Dept. doesn’t have anyway.

inspectorudy | July 3, 2016 at 11:44 pm

I voted no but think there is a possibility that this is all scripted and with minimum time remaining they will accept her resignation as the Demorat nominee and allow Biden to take her place. Even a blind person can see that Biden as the alternative will immediately make him the favorite with half of the baggage of Trump. He may be a gaffe prone fool but he is 1/2 the braggart of Trump. He will the go on to crush Trump. This is our worst nightmare. Having hillary set free by the DoJ will allow Trump to actually be better than another choice, hillary. That is the only way he can win. It will be a slugfest to the bottom but Biden will come out on top because it will give the leaners the choice of a known fool versus a bigger unknown fool.

What is the scope of the FBI investigation? Is it only the email server, records retention and destruction, mishandling classified material, or, does it also include evaluation of Clinton Foundation donations, expenses, and how donations track with favors granted to special interests and foreign governments?

Might be she gets a pass on email, but gets indicted for influence peddling. It’s the influence peddling I’m certain she wanted to keep from state.

Is racketeering more easily proven / prosecuted than the security / records retention issue? Following the money-trail might be the easier thing to prove.

    murkyv in reply to MrE. | July 4, 2016 at 7:30 pm

    Didn’t it pretty much take a Government CPA to bring down Capone?

    And Capone left fewer dead bodies in his wake than the Clintons.

Paul In Sweden | July 4, 2016 at 1:12 am

When the FBI does not recommend Hillary’s prosecution, will the senate convene a panel which will bring members of the FBI, DOJ, State department on a daily basis and to prime time TV/Cable every night until election day?

    Such a prolonged process, essentially by one party, would reinforce Democratic claims of a witch hunt by Republicans.

      Paul In Sweden in reply to davod. | July 4, 2016 at 7:40 am

      Hate to state the obvious that is recognized by great numbers of Democrats & Republicans but Hillary is a WITCH. What alternative to a Witch Hunt when hunting a WITCH would you propose?

    “When the FBI does not recommend Hillary’s prosecution, will the senate convene a panel…”

    Of course not. If they did it would be some theatrical dance to fool the rubes.

    They are, mostly, all the same.

My gut says ‘no.’ But then again, I hate my guts.

    My gut also says no; but it also says that if the FBI does not,this will be the beginning of the end of the FBI. WE will no longer respect them.

      buckeyeminuteman in reply to Ronbert. | July 5, 2016 at 7:49 am

      I don’t respect the IRS, DOJ, DHS, Postal Service either but they’re still around making life harder for everyday Americans.

    MattMusson in reply to | July 4, 2016 at 9:59 am

    (Shrilly) “What difference does it make?”

    The Fix is already in. Just ask Bill and Loretta.

No chance FBI goes after Clinton. That said, FBI wants the emails because they are going after corrupt figures and the Clintons are in bed with all sorts of corrupt figures. Dick Morris thinks that the Clintons and Clinton foundation are massively selling out the wealth of America, and that’s why the emails were on the separate server in the first place.

Missing Clinton emails will probably appear on wiki leaks (leaked by Russian intelligence) someday.

I think the FBI will recommend prosecution. But I dont ‘ think the DOJ will prosecute.

My “model” says the DOJ will not charge Hillary. This is a two-fer:
1) Hillary is a globalist insider.
2) A “No charge” will further damage the rule of law (the hated Constitution is the foundation) in the USA.

I think the leftists think can survive the FBI agent revolt, the general LE revolt, and the armed citizenry (the last is what scares the Dems the most as you can see by the anti-gun laws getting pushed almost daily).

Both Breitbart & Gateway are reporting Cruz, along with Romney & Kasich are still hoping to deny Trump his nomination by turning enough of his pledged delegates.

I’ll bet that would sit just fine with some of the #never Trump, “principled conservatives” commentators on this site.

Never fear, you people may still get Hillary Clinton. One things for damned sure. You’ll never get a president Ted Cruz!

    geokstr in reply to secondwind. | July 5, 2016 at 8:52 am

    Off-topic. Or is it your assigned responsibility in the alt-right bufooneri to continue the Alinsyite, dishonest character assassination of Ted Cruz on every blog you can?

Should the FBI not recommend prosecution, then that event will mark the official end of America as a country of laws and freedom and will be the official beginning of Amerika, the land of tyranny, oppression, banana-republic corruption. Hopefully, such a result would be the spark for the people to rise up and take their country back. Should the FBI recommend indictment and the DOJ refuse, then there will be extreme political unrest.

Yes. But Lynch won’t prosecute

Common Sense | July 4, 2016 at 8:01 am

She should absolutely be prosecuted! She set this whole horrid affair in motion by using a private server in her home.

There will not be any charges brought against her.
She is a Clinton, she is very special. The first woman President. We are looking at 4 years of massive corruption!

This should be a two part question:

1. Did Hillary break the law?

2. Will the Obama DOJ charge her?

The FBI will cave on this. She’s a threat to their jobs. The FBI is between a rock and a hard place. If they indict her they will be toast and if they don’t, they will have no support from the public. The bottom line is that those agents will try to place their safety and job security first.

The question isn’t “will it happen?” the question should be “will you let it happen?”

    Rick in reply to tigercpa. | July 4, 2016 at 1:58 pm

    That is an excellent question, although in today’s America I fear the collective answer is Yes.
    A follow up question could be: Will we ever get back to an America in which the answer to your question would be No?

The FBI will have the option of either making the referral to DOJ that crimes have been committed based on the evidence or not making that referral as they believe based on the evidence collected that crimes were not committed. If a referral is made then DOJ must decide on indicting Hillary or not.

The FBI can pass this hot potato off to DOJ easily and the politically smart thing to do for the long term trust and respect of the FBI is to make the referral to DOJ to indict.

Now you know why B.J. Clinton went to see Lynch.

My personal opinion, based upon the reported rumblings from within the FBI, is that the Bureau will report that violations of law occurred and that Hillary Clinton be charged with those violations. The FBI always protects the FBI, and the Bureau will not allow itself to appear to be manipulated by politics. However, the attorneys at the DOJ [including the AG] are the ones responsible for bringing charges and prosecuting. I do not believe this will happen. No prosecution will be undertaken.

I believe the FBI will recommend prosecution because the investigation is being conducted and supervised by Agents who know that they themselves would be prosecuted if they handled classified material in the same way that Hillary and her aides did.

They are appalled by Hillary’s conduct and believe me, there is little love lost between the FBI and the Department of State.

I voted No because I have reached the point of having no faith in any government-related institution of our once-great country.
And, sad to say, almost all American institutions are now government related.

I think there is another question looming, should the FBi come back with recommendations to indict. Will there be a clamor for some sort of “special prosecutor”. ( Yes I know that the independent prosecutor statute expired about 12 years ago. )

Yes Hillary should be indicted.
However one of the criteria (rightly or wrongly) is to consider the probability of conviction.

If indicted, the case will be heard in the Eastern district of virginia or DC. That is minimum of 40% hard core leftist democrats for the jury pool. What are the odds of getting all those progressives struck from the jury.

See Queen Hillary. There will be no prosecution and no justice. Need I say more?

Subotai Bahadur | July 4, 2016 at 6:39 pm

You are operating on the mistaken assumption that the technically Republican controlled Senate under McConnell is in any way different than the Democrat controlled Senate under Reid.

The Senate will do as they are told by the Democrats.

This was likely a done deal before the first fed asked the first question.

One of the greatest consequences of this kind of corruption is the breakdown in confidence the general public places in government institutions.

We now know that the IRS and the Treasury Department have gone to the darkside, and we’ve known for some time that portions of Justice have gone over, but will the FBI seal the deal? I think they will.

The FBI will recommend to indict. DOJ will not and will kick the can down the road until after the election. We may witness the first President elected under a cloud of criminal wrong doing by a majority populous that doesn’t care.

My predictions: 1) FBI will return a criminal referral before the convention. 2) DOJ will indict on one or two minor charges before the election. 3) Obama will pardon before he leaves office.

I vote no. Hillary could murder someone on live TV and nothing would be done. The fix is in.

I’m afraid that we have lost a generation of men and yes, sometimes women, whose courage of character was never for sale at any price. Imagine if one of them stood up at 11:00 this morning. Not holding my breath.

It’s “Anything Can Happen Day!” Comey tendering his resignation? We’ll know in minutes…