GOP Stops Anti-Trump Attempts to Unbind Delegates
Delegates claimed they need to keep the party united to defeat Hillary.
The GOP handed the anti-Trump movement a defeat when they stopped an attempt to unbind delegates, which would allow them to “vote for any candidate they like.”
In fact, the voice vote for Trump was loud “the presiding officer did not need to call for an official count.”
Party officials used a voice vote to reject a proposal by Colorado delegate Kendal Unruh to let delegates “cast a vote of conscience” and abandon the candidate they had been committed too through the state primaries or caucuses.
The amendment became a focal point of furious lobbying that’s pitted the so-called Never Trump movement against Trump’s campaign and top leaders of the Republican Party. On a 112-member rules panel dominated by party and Trump loyalists, the outcome was expected.
Unruh expected to collect signatures from 28 members to bring a vote to unbind the delegates on the convention floor in Cleveland next week. However, she was only able to collect 21.
Anti-Trump people get crushed at Rules Committee. It was never in doubt: Convention will honor will of people & nominate @realdonaldtrump.
— Paul Manafort (@PaulManafort) July 15, 2016
Delegates said the party should not abandon Trump since he “overwhelmingly won GOP primaries.” The rules state that delegates must honor “the outcomes of the primaries and caucuses in their states in most cases.” Some said the party must unite against Hillary:
“You want to ignore what is really the grassroots, which is millions and millions and millions of voters who voted for Donald Trump,” said Stephen Munisteri, a delegate and leading GOP figure from Texas.
He added, “The only way to advance the conservative cause is through a strong Republican Party that is united to defeat Hillary Clinton and the Democrats this fall.”
The convention begins on Monday in Cleveland, OH. The anti-Trump movement “believe current rules already free delegates to support anybody and have planned to contest balloting when the convention votes for its nominee next week.”
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Whoever screams the loudest wins? Typical Trump fashion.
More like the GOPe finally understanding that all of these people voting for Trump are actually against the establishment backroom deals, and the sure-fire way to make sure they won’t vote Republican in the upcoming election is to pull off a sleazy backroom to replace him with some ancient establishment drone. (who will then be absolutely stomped by Hillary in the general election, leading to Obamacare forever, a 6-3 Liberal SCOTUS, amnesty, and eternal funding for all of the populist progressive organizations, et al.)
Who knows. The GOPe may actually be moving in the direction of reality (by being pushed by Trump, which is really, really weird)
I’m curious about how you manage a “sleazy backroom deal” out of a floor vote supported by insurgent conservatives?
Strangely enough, I actually understand the “Sleazy back-room deal” charge that would have come out of this being put into place.
If this had succeeded, there would have been immediate enormous pressure to select a candidate and have all the delegates attempt to rally.
The likeliest benefactor of an open floor fight would have been JEB! because everybody would think he’s the “safe” candidate. The hard Conservatives would break toward Cruz and the Trumpeteers would stay with Trump through the first several votes and with each vote, the GOPe Bush crowd would peel off a few more, and a few more, and a few more votes until they could get to about 1/3, at which point they would demand that Bush become the “consensus” candidate. The delegates would fold, and we’d all be completely screwed (not to say that we’re not already).
I want the GOPe to wear this nomination …
and the blood bath that will follow …
I noticed that Trump isn’t talking about
polls anymore … since Hillary is killing him
in the polls … I am voting against Hillary …
but I think she will win.
watch Trump going on another “Mexican” judge rant
again … watch him lose another 10 points ….
Are you that detached that you don’t see that Trump has been posting results from poll after poll? That he has taken the lead in multiple polls? Or are you just to lazy to check for yourself?
You mean the same kind of polling that showed Brexit to be losing??
Polls are where the fools live, ask yourself who has the money and the GOTV ground game. It is not Trump.
Are you arguing that the GOP Establishment which has gotten way too fat and corrupt (you know like lobbying for Fannie Mae and dictatorships and big business) has now realized that the will of the people must be taken seriously?
The reality is that the GOP Establishment wants Trump and was willing to do whatever it took to keep Herr Cheeto as nominee. My guess is that it has nothing to do with atonement.
Like The Who lyric:
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
They wanted Trump because he was more malleable than Cruz would ever have been. And now they have a backup plan: should he not prove as malleable as expected, Trump, with Pence as VP, will be impeached the first time he steps the slightest bit out of line, and . . . voila! With bipartisan enthusiasm, GOPe Pence is president. The mere threat of this will (probably) keep Trump in line, but they have their bases covered.
Nah, they support Trump because he is one of them. The hoi polloi have not figured this out. They have bought into his nationalistic mercantilism nonsense, and truly believe we are one trade deal away from prosperity.
These folks are as cocksure that Trump is the solution for all that ails this nation as much as they were cocksure that Cruz had 5 (or was it 8) mistresses.
When Baron von Trumphausen goes down to defeat in November, they will take solace that he had the record for most votes in the GOP primaries and will undoubtedly say the election was stolen since the polls predicted a victory. It will be kind of like 2004, when the Democrats could not believe W won the election because the polls had a different result.
No it’s who every has the most votes from primary voters and that is TRUMP!
And the most delegates and that is TRUMP.
So the low life anti-trump idiots got beat down again. It’s over and TRUMP won big! Really, really BIG! 🙂
Most primary votes ever for a republican candidate.
Also the most primary votes against a nominee, ever.
More people voted against the other sixteen (or however many).
The first comment I read on LI today and it has to be the dumbest.
I’m sure there’s a couple others in the Soiled Pampers Brigade that will give you a run for your money, though.
Isn’t the “Rules Committee” the “Establishment”?!?
Since Trump arrived on the scene the word “establishment” has come to have no real meaning at all. As those who pray to the yellow demigod use it, it includes anybody and everybody who does not yet accept Donald Trump as their messiah. Keeping all things Trump deliberately vague and slightly out of focus, along with a generous dose of willful ignorance, is guaranteed to make Trump more palatable than Hillary Clinton. #NeverHillary justifies the bar being set so incredibly low.
Geez, just drink the kool-aid already.
ever since Jonestown I have never drank Kool aid …
You guys prove there is an abundance of stupid here on this site.
If you perceive all you’re finding here as stupidity, you just might be looking for love in all the wrong places, Skippy.
Delegates said the party should not abandon Trump since he “overwhelmingly won GOP primaries.”
What a novel idea. Almost radical.
I wonder if it will catch on.
The exact, word-for-word meme from Katrina Pierson I heard a few hours ago.
But, if releasing delegates…who ARE the Republican Party…”abandoned” Der Donald, how would that be a bad thing?
What did T-rump have to fear?
Let’s say NeverTrump wins in this manner. Trump will go back to being a billionaire celebrity. Yes, the IRS will probably hunt him even more than before, but he’s used to that. The Republican Party, however, will lie in ashes, a smoldering ruin, the corpses of political careers strewn about like discarded flower petals.
If the Republican Party didn’t want to be a political party to begin with, it should not have advertised itself as such.
I asked two questions; you answered neither.
The Republican Party is ALREADY in ashes and a smoldering ruin.
It just hasn’t died yet from it’s injuries. We Conservatives are ready with the mercy stroke to put it out of our misery.
I expect that the day after inauguration is the day the Republican Party will disintegrate.
Personally I’m hoping that either the Tea Party gains enough frustrated Conservatives to break free or that a separate Conservative party is founded.
Oddly, perhaps ironically, Trump will end up invigorating the Republican Party, particularly the GOPe and not destroying it. They’ll just point at his oompa loompa clown show and say, “see!? This is what you get when you flout us.” The GOP establishment is actually counting on Trump being a crash-and-burn nightmare, so they can point to the ashes and smoldering ruins and crow over it all while having their man in place to take over.
Trump fans are just too blind and, I like to believe, hopeful for real change, that they don’t see what is happening right in front of them. Pence is the key, and you can bet that was hammered out during Trump’s meeting with Paul Ryan and under great pressure from the RNC and other stalwarts of GOP leadership. Pence is the fail safe.
It’s a smart play, really, but Trump lost in that particular deal. He just doesn’t know it yet, nor apparently, do his fans.
I suspect it was mostly about money, but $$$ is not going to pour in.
Trump is such a victim.
The republican party just showed even they finally caught on they’d suffer mass loses down ticket if they persisted in pissing off 10’s of millions of Trump supporters. You & a few others obstinately cling to your hatred towards Trump. That make’s you stupid.
Before you were tedious, boring & a pain in the ass. You’ve just become irrelevant as well. You’ve lost whatever shred of credibility you still had.
Except of course amongst your shrinking cadre of P-rags bobble-heads who continue to fight a fight you lost months ago.
By the way, where is your champion?
I asked two questions; you answered neither.
Though you did attack me personally with a lot of stupid bullshit.
I’ll respond to you the way I responded to J. J. earlier today. I’m under no obligation to respond to your loaded & stupid questions. I’ll add, you more often than not don’t answer the direct questions posed to you either. You instead respond to straw man questions that weren’t asked & are of your own makeup.
Proving you can dish it out but you can’t take it bed wetter.
When you respond to one of my comments, you kind of DO have an obligation to be…you know…responsive…
But I see your BWAAAAK, BWAAAAK, and I know you for the chickenshit liar you are.
If you want to call me names, just make a root comment. That way your insanity is apparent for all to see, and I can just ignore you as I often do.
Does giving your word, then taking an oath to honor that word mean anything to you? That oath wasn’t to the party, that oath was to the voters who voted for Trump. In many cases the party selected the delegate’s to represent those voters. Apparently you’re unaware we are a representative republic. Apparently you are unaware of the honor, principles, integrity & tradition that undergirds the whole structure & concept of our founders.
Apparently you instead favor an oligarchy of the unprincipled. Those that break their word, those that are encouraged to break their oaths. Because that is what you propose.
There’s your direct response dikwad. Now twist that into something I didn’t say. Don’t respond in a like manner like I just did. Instead react in typical Ragspecker mode. That’s all your capable of as you respond every damned time.
“That oath wasn’t to the party, that oath was to the voters who voted for Trump.”
OK. Show some support.
Because, see, PARTY delegates are ONLY PARTY DELEGATES. That’s how the deal works. See?
But you show me some “voter delegates” according to the rules.
Now, if Der Donald is SOOOOOOOOOOooooo supported by the peeeeples, why is he afraid of letting the delegates vote their conscience?
And, if they DID NOT support Der Donald, how is that a bad thing? I mean, being that they ARE representatives in a republican system?
Dikwad? Surely, you can be more explicit than that, honey. Let your freak flag FLY…!!! Call me ALLLLLLLLLLL the names you have bound up in that poor, stupid, insane head of yours! Remember, I AM a lawyer, and you are suffering from deep, dark, dank inferiority complexes. Oh, BTW, I also hold a MBA, earned with the JD, and under the worst circumstances. So, let it GO, boy!
You’re so cute. I remember when you cruzbots were all about the rules, and how Trump was to stupid to understand the rules.
Trump won. Cruz lost. And you nevertrumptards just got your asses handed to you by the rules.
Barry, two words: Pyrrhic victory.
OK, Butt-hurt Barri, I’ll waste a little time punking your ass here.
“Rules” is your attempt at a flucking LIE.
The rules in Colorado, which Donale Duck was lying about and blowing snot bubbles concerning “rigged” are unique to Colorado, you stupid, lying SOS. Cruz schlonged Der Donald there, BECAUSE Der Donald WAS too stupid to play the game by the rules.
The rules of the convention are totally different.
Now, YOU step up and answer my two questions, asphole.
You responded in just the manner I predicted you would. I am prescient! The question now becomes, can you resist the need you have to have the last word?
This is my last word on this, I’m done with you. For some reason I have the need to take a purging dump after all the time I’ve wasted trying to get an intelligent response out of you.
Thank you Barry, you tried & largely succeeded with Ragspecker. He’s just to obstinate & stupid too see it.
““Rules” is your attempt at a flucking LIE.”
No, I pointed out the truth, you kooky nevertrumpers called everyone stupid that did not understand the byzantine rules in play in every state, but then you are all hurt and bothered when the same republican party went by the rules and eliminated your great hopes.
“The rules in Colorado, which Donale Duck was lying about and blowing snot bubbles concerning “rigged” are unique to Colorado, you stupid, lying SOS. Cruz schlonged Der Donald there, BECAUSE Der Donald WAS too stupid to play the game by the rules.”
Of course, I didn’t complain about the Colorado rules or that they should be followed, did I?
“The rules of the convention are totally different.”
Yes, and you nevertrump kook brigades thought you could subvert them. You lost, as usual.
“Now, YOU step up and answer my two questions, asphole.”
You will have to pose two questions to me and I will answer them, asshole. Notice I know how to spell?
Ironically, that should be “that makes you stupid”.
Unless the name of the “make” is “you stupid”.
It took me a while to figure out what the hell you were talking about. There was a lot of comments to wade through & you didn’t make it clear who you were addressing. With all that I concede your point. I was wrong on an incidental point of punctuation. I’ll admit my mistake.
I’m not as brilliant as those of you #never T-rumpers who always, in every situation see themselves as correct & right. My grammar background is from reading thousands of various books in a myriad of subjects to increase my knowledge storehouse. I’m neither a lawyer nor a MBA. I don’t have any pieces of paper issued by various institutions set up by the system to codify excellence in a particular field of indoctrination.
My specialty is original thought. Something I see very little of from #never T-rumpers. Which is why those of us that are capable of original thinking consistently hand “principled conservative”, #never T-rumpers their asses.
You’ll never find a more perfect case-book confession of inferiority complex and narcissism than the foregoing.
Oh, yes! Narcissism hides the deepest of inferiority feelings. You can see it all right there, right down to the delusional bragging.
This poor puke broke his life on a bullshit notion of “tax rebellion”, as he’s related right here on our stage (to paraphrase Ed Sullivan). He’s never recovered. But he has projected his rage onto those of us who are “indoctrinated”, because he could never manage to attend a college or professional program. And because of that, he hates on us, and dreams of “kicking our asses” in some interweb contest.
What a pathetic revelation.
I was responding to Evan3457, yet here you are,like skat on the bottom of my shoe. I’d told you I was tired of wasting time on you, trying to talk sense to you when all you’re capable of is nonsense.
You’ve proven another of my observations about you though, you’re so full of yourself you can’t overcome your pathetic need to get in the last word.
Even if it’s 18 hours later.
The only reason I’ve come back to this is to pick it up & share it with some friends. They’re also Trump supporters who’ve been in the trench’s for the last 8 years fighting the real fight. They can use a good laugh over the L. I. Choir of #never T-rumpers.
I want a new party.
You can cry if you want to.
Me…I’m laughing at you.
I assume you gave up on persuading me to vote for Trump.
This is clearly the will of the people.
Could be. As I’ve noted before, we elected a pathological, lying, narcissistic, Collectivist asshole twice in the most recent past.
It could be a trend…
I am writing in Daniel Hannan for POTUS.
Of course you would write in someone ineligible to serve.
“someone ineligible to serve” – Trump “wins” the prize for the most ineligible to serve, as he is trivial, jejune, narcissistic, shallow, strangely orange, creepy, a mocker, full of guile, did I say creepy? gross, foul, repugnant, repulsive, disgusting…
Barry got to you didn’t he.
He gave you a pertinent to reality response. Which caused you to go off in typical P-rags wannabe mode.
Upvote for Barry.
I forgot to add…Trump’s also a con artist, a political amateur, a poser, in no way a critical thinker, a hip shooter, a cancerous lesion on the face of American politics, a boil to be lanced, a pustule, a greedy man, an orange man who is value fugacious, querulous, vacuous, detestable…character challenged…Yuk!
Why Jennifer, how Christian of you.
Trump is eligible to serve, unlike your choice.
Ill Wind, au contraire, Barry took the bait.
Barry, Christians tell it like it is. I don’t romanticize or fantasize evil. I call it out.
And hey, don’t you love your Trump doll for telling it like it is when he gets all wound up and someone pulls his string?
I am not alone in my critical assessment of Trump and of his egg shell ensconced followers:
Thinking about writing in Draco Malfoy. Why not?
I was actually wondering which way this would go.
I mean, understanding they really are actually dumb enough to themselves in both feet…
” Dumb enough to shoot themselves in both feet “