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Halperin: GOP Elites Orchestrating ‘Grassroots’ Revolt Against Trump

Halperin: GOP Elites Orchestrating ‘Grassroots’ Revolt Against Trump

‘Trump is right: there are people plotting against him.’

As Joseph Heller famously wrote in Catch-22, “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t after you.” On today’s Morning Joe, Mark Halperin reported that GOP elites are indeed trying to “orchestrate” a “grassroots, organic” revolt against the presumptive nominee.

An “orchestrated grassroots, organic” revolt? Oxymoron, anyone? Halperin went on to state “Trump is right: there are people plotting against him.”

Halperin- GOP Elites Orchestrating Grassroots Revolt Against Trump from Mark Finkelstein on Vimeo.

What do readers think? Do they support this effort to dump Trump? And now that Halperin has outed this as a move being orchestrated by the GOP “elites,” does it have any chance of success?

JOE SCARBOROUGH: Mark Halperin, obviously, a lot of Republican leaders feel like they’re in an absolutely terrible position right now and this move quietly grows to try to get Donald Trump pushed to the side. It is certainly a long shot. But what’s it looking like right now?

MARK HALPERIN: It’s a fascinating moment in the history of Trump’s relationship with the Republican party. The big turning point is now, and Paul Ryan’s interview with Paul Ryan illustrated this, the leaders of the party would prefer Trump not be the nominee, and they’re willing to have a very messy convention if that could somehow happen. They don’t want to be seen as leading the movement. Because they know it would fail if it’s seen as elites trying to take the nomination away from them. So they’re hoping to sort of have behind the scenes, orchestrate a little bit of grassroots, organic support.

Trump’s right. This is being orchestrated. But there is some grassroots support among some delegates to say, we want to be able to vote our conscience. And when Paul Ryan said to Chuck Todd, people need to be able to vote their conscience: Members of Congress need to decide on their own, delegates do. It’s a huge moment. Trump is right that there are people plotting against him. I don’t know that it will succeed, but it is a big moment. He says he wants the party unified? He’s going to have to work to unify it. Because as that list Mika read said, people are not out there, backing him up right now.

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JackRussellTerrierist | June 20, 2016 at 9:58 am

May God give them speed. The hump needs to shut up and just go away. He doesn’t want the job and never did. He did it to shore up the waning Trump brand. But the opposite is happening and he’s angry. Trump hotel properties occupancy rates are down about 60%. He should do himself and all of America a favor by shutting up and dropping out NOW.

    I agree with you that he never took it seriously at first. But I think his colossal ego has latched onto the idea now. There are certainly a lot of adoring sycophants who worship him just as much as any Obama-phone-toting Dim ever licked Barry’s boots. It’s really pathetic how such a large percentage of our electorate seems to base their decision as if this is American Idol or something. Trump opened my eyes to the fact that there just as many idiots on the Republican side as there are on the other.

    And as far as the money goes, I doubt Trump cares if his hotels are suffering. He’s shown what he’ll do… just walk away from his creditors. The Clintons have shown him how to gorge at the public trough, and that can make the frauds he’s pulled in the past look like chump change. Do you think he can resist the temptation?

      JackRussellTerrierist in reply to Paul. | June 20, 2016 at 11:03 am

      “Trump opened my eyes to the fact that there just as many idiots on the Republican side as there are on the other.”

      Same for me. I had no idea there were so many stupid ‘pubs until the hump came along.

      My point about the hotels was simply to point out that his loss of revenue and the vacancies negatively impact his brand.

      I also agree that he’s staying in because of his enormous ego and he sees a shot at the public trough that the Clintons and obastards have been feasting at. He probably thinks it would be “terrific” if the taxpayers were paying for his jet fuel instead of himself. It’s been reported many, many time what a ‘cheap bastard’ he is.

      Kauf Buch in reply to Paul. | June 20, 2016 at 5:38 pm

      RE: “not taking it seriously at first”

      AS IF YOU KNOW!

      He has a different style.
      That YOU have NO understanding of it
      does not speak of Trump, but rather moreso of YOU.

    Free State Paul in reply to JackRussellTerrierist. | June 20, 2016 at 11:19 am

    Movement Conservatives would rather burn down the GOP — and what’s left of the USA — rather than admit the failure of their outdated 20th Century ideology.

    The Culture Wars were lost 50 years ago. Reagan lost the war with Big Government. 16 years of the Bush/Obama Administration have destroyed the Constitution.

    All that’s left to defend are the borders and the traditional American people. When those are gone, your precious conservative principles won’t mean a thing. Trump is taking on the global elite of both parties, which is why he is so hated.

    With Hillary’s victory over Sanders in the Democratic primary, the Washington establishment of special interests has clearly won over their outlier-disrupter challenger.

    Meanwhile, in the Republican Party, the Washington establishment of special interests is still trying to prevent their outlier-disrupter candidate from winning their nomination. Ryan, Romney, and other globalists, see Trump as an existential threat to their goal of opening our borders up to millions of South and Central Americans to create one-world government.

    See: “People Who Control America? Mind Blowing Documentary HQ”*

    * Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzrYMEvAEyw

    What a “mind reader” you are! (/s)
    The ultimate sign of helpless desperation.

    The GOP will merely die SOONER if it tries this.

    * TRUMP 2016 *

casualobserver | June 20, 2016 at 10:05 am

There are a lot of reasons to hate Trump. But it the conservative wing of the GOP thinks defeating him at the convention is the path to future strength, they are delusional. It would be even more destructive than a 4 or 8 year Trump presidency. The conservative wing would become a smaller minority and would perhaps lose any power at all. As it is, the GOP already minimizes those true conservatives in the elected class now. Some coup, especially if it fails, will even further isolate conservatives.

A third party is to me the only way to go. And starting it the day after the November election would give conservatives the best chance to convert the angry (angry that either was elected) and to avoid the generation long stigma.

    JackRussellTerrierist in reply to casualobserver. | June 20, 2016 at 11:08 am

    What you say about the party falling apart if they dump trump at the convention or anytime is myth made u by the leftwing talking heads. The truth is that, as a whole, conservatives and the large majority or real ‘pubs would all breathe a huge sigh of relief to put that Cheeto-faced oaf in their rearview mirror.

    I completely agree.

    JimMtnViewCaUSA in reply to casualobserver. | June 20, 2016 at 4:19 pm

    Doubtful that GOPe can steal the nomination, they’re really a pack of Losers.
    Now, the guys who stole the nom from Bernie, those guys are pros!

The conservative wing of the Republican Party can’t win anything if they keep attacking their own base.

American Human | June 20, 2016 at 10:21 am

So Joe Scarborough goes to the uber-left wing Mark Halprin to get news on what the Republican party is going to do?

So if I am to understand other posters here, there were tens of millions of primary voters giving Trump the delegates he needs to secure the Republican nomination and every last one of them is a mindless sycophant? Not a single one of them has brain-one in their thick skulls or can walk and chew gum at the same time?

Just wondering.

    Joe Scarborough has always been like an organ grinder’s monkey. He will dance for whoever puts money in his hat. He knows what his bosses at MSNBC want and goes out of his way to please them.

    Ragspierre in reply to American Human. | June 20, 2016 at 11:22 am

    Not picking on you, but thought I’d use your post to illustrate what a real “straw man” fallacy looks like.

    And, of course, the answer to your question is “No”. Nobody is saying any such thing, but there are plenty of people who are aware of how slavish is SOME of the T=rumpian support, and that that is disturbingly like the support for Barracula

    T-rump supporters run the spectrum you’d expect to see in any POTUS nomination race, but with some segments much more highly represented.

      American Human in reply to Ragspierre. | June 20, 2016 at 1:34 pm

      No offence taken. My comment, however, was to others in this thread, and indeed others heard on radio and read in print, who lump all Trump supporters into the same pile of idiots.
      I have many differences with Trump mostly concerning economic matters, which actually scare me, however say what one wants about Trump, he is not under criminal investigation and neither has he spent the entirety of his career planning and scheming to grasp the ultimate power on the planet. For as long as I heard about them I have recognized the Clintons for what they are, greedy, selfish, grasping, dishonest, grubbing, and despicable humans with only one goal in mind, complete and utter control over the entire country.
      Trump could be the devil’s spawn but entirely preferable to Hillary Clinton.
      Some other time I’ll tell you what I really think of the Clintons.

        Milhouse in reply to American Human. | June 23, 2016 at 7:10 am

        What makes you think he’s not under criminal investigation? You don’t think prosecutors are looking very closely at the “Trump University” suits, ready to indict him for fraud, perjury, or both, the minute he gives them the evidence they need?

Mark Finkelstein | June 20, 2016 at 10:28 am

Halperin might well be a liberal, but in his public pronouncements he actually plays things pretty much down the middle. I think he is simply reporting, based on a strong set of sources: that members of the GOP establishment don’t want to see Trump as the candidate and are trying to gin up a grassroots revolt against him.

    G. de La Hoya in reply to Mark Finkelstein. | June 21, 2016 at 9:25 am

    Mark Halperin only has any credibility with the left of which employs him. Cousin Goober down at Wally’s could make this same assessment about “grass-roots” but doesn’t hob-knob with the elites that will jump on Hillary’s ship if need be to keep their status-quo.

Not a big Trump supporter but if they subvert the will of the voters I will never support a Republican again. This is ridiculous. They are clearly working to keep the status quo, and worse. Pimping for the cheap labor lobby.

    Kauf Buch in reply to jack burns. | June 20, 2016 at 5:43 pm

    1,000 THUMBS UP!

    Alexandra in reply to jack burns. | June 20, 2016 at 5:50 pm

    Agree. I honestly wish there was a “good” way to get rid of him but I just dont see it. In the end, I dont think it will matter. Hillary will win.

      rabidfox in reply to Alexandra. | June 20, 2016 at 8:01 pm

      There was a ‘good’ way to avoid Trump. It was to run primary candidates that recognized what the primary voters wanted and ACKNOWLEDGING that their concerns were valid and important. But the GOP didn’t so now we have Trump. Good job guys. And you want me to support whatever spineless puppet you nominate instead of Trump?!

        Milhouse in reply to rabidfox. | June 23, 2016 at 7:13 am

        No, the good way was not to have primaries in the first place, or to make sure everyone understood that they were only straw polls intended to guide the delegates, not to bind them. The whole idea that voters who don’t subscribe to a party’s ideology should decide whom it runs as its candidate is insane.

Most grass roots Republicans I know feel that Donald Trump is the first Republican candidate in over 20 years who is speaking for them. The Republicans most of the grass roots Republicans have a major problem with Uniparty Republicans, like Ryan and McConnell, who are only too willing to accommodate Obama and the globalists.

The primary grass roots people who have a problem with Trump are the religious fanatics who believe God anointed Cruz to be President and the extreme conservatives who have chills run down their spine every time Ted Cruz says “Constitutional Conservatism.”

    American Human in reply to bw222. | June 20, 2016 at 1:39 pm

    BW, I agree with your statement. Remember in years past when an R was in the White House I believe we all were glad but just waited with angst until the R did or said something that we knew he would and sell us down the road a little bit further, that sold us out just a little, maybe, to political correctness.
    Maybe Trump will do that at some time but I don’t think it will be as much. Maybe we could relax a bit.
    Now if he’d just get rid of that tariffs and trade war talk.

      JackRussellTerrierist in reply to American Human. | June 20, 2016 at 4:55 pm

      So you’re fine with Trump’s recent position supporting the ‘rats that denying gun purchases by anybody on the No-fly list is hunky-dory?

        Thank you for showing that you got suckered into the disinformation.

        Typical ANTI-TRUMP fool.

          Paul in reply to Kauf Buch. | June 20, 2016 at 8:08 pm

          You Trumpaloos are really unbelievable. The words come directly out of his mouth and yet you hear something completely different than what he says. I realize that understanding him can be a challenge, what with the word-salad and all, but come on. At least be honest.

          Ragspierre in reply to Kauf Buch. | June 20, 2016 at 8:45 pm

          Donald J. Trump

          @realDonaldTrump

          When I said that if, within the Orlando club, you had some people with guns, I was obviously talking about additional guards or employees
          5:24 AM – 20 Jun 2016

          5,814 5,814 Retweets
          20,776

          Except that directly contradicts what he said in Texas.

          T-rump suckers believe he lies to everyone BUT them.

          Pathetic.

          Kauf Buch in reply to Kauf Buch. | June 21, 2016 at 6:28 am

          Paul and Raggy need to learn to read.
          And stay on topic.

          Jack spoke of the “no fly no buy” garbage…
          …and you fools trot out gibberish.

          YOU HAVE A BINARY CHOICE
          either Trump or Hillary will be the next President.
          SUPPORT ONE.

          From your irrationality, it seems you lean Hillary.

Common Sense | June 20, 2016 at 10:39 am

GOP Primary Turnout Up 8.7 Million Votes, More Than 60 Percent in 2016 Versus 2012!

Trump passes primary vote total, broke the GOP record for most votes ever.

There are your grassroots voters only the GOP elites are so dam stupid they don’t get it!

It’s sad. My party is really the Stupid Party. They think when they do stupid stuff and wind up with Trump that the solution is to do *more* stupid stuff and somehow that will make him go away. What I see is categories for each party:
A – Emotional voters who dislike the way the country is going and vote Trump or Bernie.
B – Voters who dislike the choices this season and are going to stay home.
C – Diehards who are going to vote their party no matter what.

The GOPe thinks there are enough of C and B voters to counter the vast number of A voters who will either bail totally or vote for Hillary if they get a nice, tame GOPe candidate rammed into the slot in November. My take on the situation: They’re going to get Hillary elected.

The dissatisfied Bernie voter most likely will vote Hillary and the straight ticket even though the Dems (censored) their candidate fourteen ways from Sunday. They wouldn’t vote for a R for any reason at all. The betrayed Trump supporter is going to be voting *against* whatever squish the establishment R’s try to push, as well as every R senator and representative on the ballot.

President Hillary, a 6-3 SCOTUS, ruling majorities in each house, and a cascade down into every state with amnesty (renamed) within the first year. Or Trump. Pick one. (I’m not happy with the choice either)

    The DC establishment is not ideological. All they want to do is to make deals with Dems, and they will surely get this outcome. They might overplay their hand, though, because they still need a functioning party to make deals and right now GOP is coming undone.

      The DCe is *very* ideological. They consider themselves to be god-kings.

      They want worshipers(Democrats) to come crawling to them, offering gifts(campaign$$/bribes) in exchange for their blessing(key votes). The DCe doesn’t care about a functioning party. They want their throne. What they fail to recognize is that the Dems have ceased to worship at their feet any more. All the Dems need is 50 Senators, 51% of Representatives, and a President, and they can do *anything* they want.

      Reality is hitting these former kings right in the wallet.

So Ryan, Bush and Romney are searching for the ultimate pyrrhic victory. Sorry, the GOP has its candidate — and the fate of the party and the nation hinges on the result this November.

If Ryan, Bush, Romney and company manage through legerdemain to undue what is already done – chaos will reign.

Is this really about the good of the Party or is it about Ryan, Bush and Romney’s own egos?

    Kauf Buch in reply to counsel. | June 20, 2016 at 5:47 pm

    It certainly CAN’T be about “the good of the Party”, since the GOP will suffer an IMMEDIATE DEATH in the event they usurp the nomination.

    One would THINK they would understand this, but noooooooo….

Can I let you all in on a little-discussed fact? Blacks are supporting him, albeit quietly. For him to drop out means President Hillary Clinton and a liberal Supreme Court……..but perhaps that is in fact what you elite types want.

    Blacks are supporting him… Even though Trump does come across as a pimp type, it sounds like you are hopping for a miracle.

    scooterjay in reply to scooterjay. | June 20, 2016 at 12:44 pm

    you can stomp and hold your breath all you want……if Trump isn’t the nominee there are millions of pissed-off Americans to deal with. Deal with it, cupcakes!

      This is a non-sequitur. However, I will address it. There is a train of thought that instead of freeing the delegates we should give the nomination to Trump so that his supporters can watch him lose and lose big.

        rabidfox in reply to edgeofthesandbox. | June 20, 2016 at 8:07 pm

        Ok. So if Trump loses big how is that different from the Puppet that the GOP replaces him with loses big? At least Trump managed to defeat a large contingent of other hopefuls. And he did it on his own.

          Leaving alone your “puppet” premise. Or that whoever the delegates will vote for is destined to lose. (Are you telling me that you would rather see Hillary win than vote for an imperfect Republican?)
          The idea is that instead of staging an insurgence we need to let Trump lose. What will be different is the soul-searching among the Trumpers that will follow the loss.

          Milhouse in reply to rabidfox. | June 23, 2016 at 7:48 am

          Trumpers are incapable of soul-searching.

1) I am sure there are some GOPe elites that are planning a palace coup. Bush, Romney and Kristol come to mind.

2) I am sure it is probably the most stupid thing that could happen.

3) Trump has about 250 delegates more then he needs to win.

4) I forget the number, but Trump has received more votes in the primaries then any other Republican.

5) 3 & 4 in effect say that the people have spoken and they want Trump.

6) The single biggest difficulty that the GOP has had over the years is the image that they are the party of the rich elite who don’t give a damn about the little guy. If they manage to get away with this they will be cementing that image in stone in two ways.

First they will prove they don’t give a damn what the voters think. Second they will show that not only are they the party of the rich elite, they are the party of the old rich elite. The elite that go back several generations. Even a new rich elite is not good enough.

7) Prediction. If the GOPe do this, not only will they lose the Presidency, they will lose the House, and may even cause a veto proof Senate. Does anyone want to see a Hillary presidency similar to
Obama’s first two years.

I just hope there are enough elites and delegates that they won’t try it.

Trump’s problem are not “GOP elites” albeit he did the best to alienate everyone for the Bushes (with 9/11 conspiracies) to Susanna Martinez (why did he need to go on a tirade against her?). He has the establishment (Rience, McConnel, etc.) even though he makes it difficult for them to continue to support.
Trump’s problem is his slide in the polls. He actually lost support within the GOP voters since he became the presumptive nominee. His rallies are getting smaller as well.
And in any event, do we have any hard evidence that the delegates revolt is a creation of Romney/Ryan? because yelling and screaming and calling people names is not going to win him any support.

“I’m so surprised at Mitch,” Trump said. “You’d think he’d be very positive. I always thought I had a good relationship with Mitch, but perhaps I don’t.”

The Kentucky Republican has chastised Trump for his proposal to temporarily ban Muslims from entering the country and said it’s “obvious” he doesn’t know “a lot about the issues.”

“He needs someone highly experienced and very knowledgeable because it’s pretty obvious he doesn’t know a lot about the issues,” McConnell said of a running mate for Trump.

He wouldn’t rule out rescinding his endorsement of the presumptive Republican presidential nominee either.

“I’m not going to speculate about what he might say or what I might do. But I think it’s pretty clear. I’ve been very clear publicly about how I think he ought to change directions, and I hope that’s what we’re going to see,” McConnell told The New York Times.
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T-rump sits on a knife edge. That could easily explain the putsch involving good ol’ Corey (Lady Killer) Lewandowski. He’s done some serious screwing of pooches over the last few weeks, and it has not gone unnoticed.

“The single biggest difficulty that the GOP has had over the years is the image that they are the party of the rich elite who don’t give a damn about the little guy.”

That may be the funniest damn thing I’ve seen this morning. T-rump gives a rip about “the little guy” just like any Collectivist oligarch does. Not. At. All.

Or exactly like Hellary does.

    Edge is a democrat party plant. He tacitly admits it. His purpose is to keep the pot stirred by keeping the # Never T-rumpsters stirred up.
    I have no idea what the hell Rag’s is up to. I’ve been in & out of being engaged with L. I. for around 5 years. My impression of Rag’s was he was a moderately amusing old curmudgeon skewering people & institutions he found objection to. Now with this election he’s just gotten old & bitter. Tho from his own platform I understand his children are still at home which argues against old. He is an assistant prosecutor living in southern California which means he’s a government employee. In southern California makes it likely he has ties with the democrat party. Given all this is true it would tend to hint at why he is as he is.
    So you know ever since the 2014 lame duck & the republican majority elected that year my purpose has been to damage that republican party majority in any way I can. I had no intention to endorse anyone. Once it became clear Trump was causing turmoil within the party & leadership my further course became obvious.
    There is no way in hell I’d support a democrat. Given the betrayal of the now republican majority there’s no way in hell I’ll vote for any republicans. I will vote for Trump.

      Sleeper cell since 2009!

      Free State Paul in reply to secondwind. | June 20, 2016 at 3:48 pm

      You forgot to mention in your biographical analysis of Rags the fact that he is available to comment on each and every LI thread pretty much 24/7. Go back and check the time stamps on several random threads. He either lives in a basement or has a gummint job with nothing to do.

      Ragspierre in reply to secondwind. | June 20, 2016 at 4:31 pm

      “Given all this is true…”

      Which exactly NONE of it is…

      It’s fun having my own lithium-dependant, penis-breathed troll!

      Or should I say, TROLLS, Free State Paul?

      I am an attorney in private practice, and my time is my own. It takes me seconds to post here.

        Free State Paul in reply to Ragspierre. | June 20, 2016 at 5:56 pm

        “I am an attorney in private practice, and my time is my own.”

        In other words, you have no clients.

        LOL

Subotai Bahadur | June 20, 2016 at 3:27 pm

Under the rules of the primaries, Donald Trump has enough votes, committed delegate votes on the first ballot, to win handily. For them to change that will require a complete change of the rules after the fact. If it does so, that means that there is no point in ever participating in Republican political activities ever again because it is a top down dictatorship.

Whether you like him or not, Donald Trump has won more primary votes than any other Republican ever, defeating the largest field in Republican history. If y’all stage a coup, those people have no reason to ever vote for any Republican again, up or down the ticket.

If #NeverTrump is a valid position to hold, then #NeverVoteRepublican is also valid after such an action. And you cannot threaten us with Hillary, because the #NeverTrump people are more than willing to have a Democrat win to stop Trump.

Campaigns, the real campaigns, are run from County party organizations. Here in Colorado, quite a few Counties are held by TEA Party types, and other dissidents against the GOPe. Who do you think is going to run the campaigns for your GOPe Vichy candidates? Who is going to do the work of GOTV?

I would guess that both the Republican Party as a real entity, and electoral politics, will come to an end shortly after such a coup.

    “quite a few Counties are held by TEA Party types, and other dissidents against the GOPe.”
    And they voted for CRUZ not Trump. They will continue to vote CONSERVATIVE. Trump has endorsed at least one Incumbent RINO that lost to the conservative. He has supported the RINOs over the Tea Party candidates.

      Subotai Bahadur in reply to genes. | June 20, 2016 at 5:29 pm

      Not the counties I know, including my own. Our running straw polls showed Trump as the preferred choice once Cruz decided to join with Romney and Jeb as the center of the #StopTrump movement.

      YMMV. In any case, writing off the Trump movement will give you a loser candidate with no support, and a Democrat victory. Which is one of your “victory conditions”. And since that will be the last election, y’all do what y’all are going to do, and we will do what we are going to do.

      Subotai Bahadur

    ” If #NeverTrump is a valid position to hold”
    This is a free country and I will hold any position I want. It’s on Trump to win me over. he’s simply not an acceptable candidate, even running against Hillary.

    Milhouse in reply to Subotai Bahadur. | June 23, 2016 at 7:57 am

    You have it exactly backwards. Forcing the current rules on the delegates would be a top-down dictatorship. That’s not how it works. The convention belongs to the delegates, and they have the absolute right to make whatever rules they like. If they want to unbind themselves they have the right to do so. That is bottom-up democracy.

The marriage has been made. All that’s left is to figure out just how amicable a marriage it can be. Republicans have never had to deal with anybody like Trump before and Trump has never had to herd cats quite like this. New ground for everybody.

Another nothingburger.

The point of this story is that the people who really really really don’t want Trump in the Oval Office are pretending that they can keep him out with a fake “grass roots” effort … one that they’re publicly announcing is fake … which kinda ruins the element of surprise.

They certainly don’t themselves believe that any genuine grass roots revolt is going to do the job for them. They’re not particularly dumb. They’re maybe lazy, venal, shockingly unimaginative, and comfortably corrupt, but not dumb. Well, not all of them, anyway.

This primary is the GOPe vs. the voters, and the GOPe isn’t winning. The grass roots have already spoken. That battle’s over, and the R establishment lost. And there’s nothing they can do about it … short of a Ron Brown operation … speaking of which, where is Scalia’s pillow at the moment?

As for the fun stuff, here’s my contribution. Trump will win, and win Yuuuuge, because he’ll clean up the women’s vote. The women who won’t vote for him will be dumb college girls who hope somebody will break a few more “glass ceilings”, and bitter old divorcees. Married women will overwhelmingly vote for Trump, even if they don’t realize it yet. No strong indication of this will show up in the pre-election polls; everybody will be surprised … as usual.

DieJustAsHappy | June 20, 2016 at 8:29 pm

Trump or Hillary. Hillary or Trump. No wonder Trump wants to make America great again. She certainly can’t be what she once was if this is the best that we can come up with for POTUS.

For me, it’s a sad, sad time. Lately, I’ve been thinking that I might never see this country on a good course or be able to vote with pride for a presidential candidate.

The quislings in the GOP-E would just as soon have Hillary, so that they can excuse themselves by not going against the first female President the way they did with Obama and his being the first black one.

I am glad to see stuff get organized – but in my state, my/our efforts certainly are grassroots – and are glad we can now funnel people to a national group. Most “Independents” at my job (I’ll define as people who voted once for Obama, once for Bush) – think both Clinton and Trump awful – want another choice. 45% of the primary voters accepted the proposal – (the other 55% knew Trump was a con). Hopefully today’s financials of Trump help more see that we need to Ditch Trump before we say the “I do” in Cleveland. Trump voters are not the grassroots that volunteer door to door every 4 years, Trump voters are not the ones that give a few hundred out of their pocket every 4 years – look at today’s financials. The bedrock of the party don’t want Trump – it was the uniformed/uninvolved that backed him.

I haven’t ever seen a more unsuitable group of candidates.
Trump the primadonna.
Hillary the criminal.
Bernie the socialist.

The main thing Trump has going for him is that he’s tapped into the anger of millions of conservatives that the GOP elite has ignored. Romney, Ryan and the rest are getting the worst shake up in their political careers, and they would do almost anything to get rid of Trump – even risk electing Hillary.

They whole thing stinks, but Trump is the least worst choice for the people and for the country.

We could have done far better.

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