LIVE RESULTS: Wisconsin Republican Primary — CRUZ WINS
And here we go!
Welcome to our Wisconsin Republican Primary live results thread.
42 delegates are up for grabs in Wisconsin’s open primary.
FINAL RESULTS (by WAJ added 4-6-2016) —
https://twitter.com/costareports/status/717537065722843137
Polls close at 9:00 EST. We’ll be updating as results and information is available.
NBC projects Cruz wins Wisconsin handily:
DECISION 2016: NBC News projects Ted Cruz will win the Wisconsin GOP primary. pic.twitter.com/KPEtHXHAMk
— NBCWashington (@nbcwashington) April 6, 2016
Cruz’s Victory Speech:
Trump’s statement:
No concession speech from Trump, but his campaign did release this super classy statement:
Trump campaign statement after Wisconsin loss: pic.twitter.com/p7nCuOmQVJ
— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) April 6, 2016
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Best thing Cruz can do for himself and our nation is to give his delegates to Trump in exchange for VP nom and recover his outsider mantle.
I love the smell of fear ….
Give up his delegates to some one who shows disdain for the 1st, 4th and 5th Amendments?
Trump wouldn’t offer it, and Cruz wouldn’t accept it, so that’s a dumb idea.
At this stage Cruz is literally the only one besides Trump that the RNC can realistically nominate at a contested convention without a massive backlash.
Kasich is nothing but a pipe dream, he doesn’t have the support and the RNC will have to change their rules to even nominate him (or anybody else not named Cruz or Trump).
If they nominate Kasich, Rubio, Ryan, or god forbid Jeb!, there will be a complete revolt in the party and whoever the Democrat nominee is will be guaranteed a win. Trump would be completely justified in saying that the RNC had not treated the candidates fairly and would probably run independent (and I wouldn’t blame him). Thus guaranteeing the nomination to the Democrat.
Unless of course Sanders decided he wasn’t treated fairly either and HE ran as an independent too. In which case who the hell knows who would come out on top.
At this stage Cruz is literally the only one besides Trump that the RNC can realistically nominate at a contested convention without a massive backlash.
Exactly right.
I think if either one has a significant lead in delegates, nominating any one other than that leader will cause a significant backlash. But if Trump and Cruz are within, say, 200 delegates of one another, then either could be nominated. And because Cruz has been doing the legwork to prepare for that scenario, that is how Ted Cruz becomes the nominee, IMHO.
I am always vexed over the needlessly stereotyped myths of “the establishment” and the RNC. If it goes past the first ballot “they” don’t have a say, other than in those delegates already appointed-elected by the individual state GOPs.
Those approx 2400 delegates will nominate who they please – and most likely it will take several ballots to settle on someone they feel can win the election. Most likely Cruz, but it could also be Nikki Haley or many others.
Paul Ryan would have been a perfect choice, until he earned so much antipathy in his short tenure as House leader. So it will most likely be Trump or Cruz, depending on the first ballot results.
This post puts the crazy in crazy cat lady.
Nonsense.
Trump can’t do that. He thinks Cruz is ineligible. And so do most of his supporters, apparently. Or was that all just a sham?
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Early Fox News exit polls for #Moderates in #Wisconsin:
http://pic.twitter.com/CbBgWYv3TJ
4:39pm · 5 Apr 2016 · Twitter Web Client
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[email protected] says the race for the GOP nomination is effectively over if @realDonaldTrump wins Wisconsin
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/karl-rove-donald-trump-wisconsin-221563
4:30pm · 5 Apr 2016 · SocialFlow
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It’s amazing that Mr. Piggy actually gets paid to state the obvious.
There is only one outsider left in the race…
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[email protected] #Exitpolls show 48% of #Wisconsin Republicans want the next president to be a political outsider. #Dobbs
http://pic.twitter.com/csnG4fYCyj
4:41pm · 5 Apr 2016 · TweetDeck
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Uh-oh…!!!
Ankle-biter…er, twitter warrior…needed on aisle Nick Searcy.
Clean up on aisle Adam Baldwin!
ThoughtPolice BOLO…!!!
http://twitchy.com/2016/04/05/hard-to-believe-nick-searcy-adam-baldwin-call-out-hannity-for-siding-with-team-trump-over-michelle-fields/
We may have to suffer without your monologue here.
Here is some news that might perk you up, Rags:
Ed Morrissey
@EdMorrissey
Hmmm: Exit polls show Cruz winning big among evangelicals, 53/35, and only trailing among independents by 5, 43/38
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/04/05/live-blog-the-packerpalooza-primary/
5:54pm · 5 Apr 2016 · Twitter Web Client
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From the plethora of your comments, one would think that Trump had won. Did you notice what a class act Trump was in losing? Yeah, that’s right. He attacked everyone and said that the RNC and the nasty TV and radio people are out to get him! Do you suppose somewhere in his hairy head there might be one small section devoted to civility? The say that a sign of a true winner is how he loses. Trump ain’t no winner!
Losing? Does he know?
That statement reads like it was written in anticipation of winning.
Dear InspectorRudy:
The figures on ad buys were Ted Cruz PACs spent about $2 million or $2.5 million, that Cruz’s campaign spent about $1.0 to $1.5 million, and Trump spent $500k.
Trump is right to note the onslaught. It also means, he really isn’t willing to spend enough of his own money to win. I wish he would start using donations. I mean, I’m discounting his $500k, and God knows, what he’s spent everywhere else, it is literally a fortune, but he’s doing this on the cheap, and that time is over.
Anyone under this onslaught would have struggled. If the numbers were reversed, the numbers may have switched. Also, Trump had a bad week. Bad coincidence.
“The figures on ad buys were Ted Cruz PACs spent about $2 million or $2.5 million, that Cruz’s campaign spent about $1.0 to $1.5 million, and Trump spent $500k.”
It’s not about the ad money. Trump plans on all of the free air time that he gets being greater than ads others can buy. He is correct in that regard. The reason Trump lost is the same reason he lost Iowa. Cruz has a solid professional ground game that is helping him get over the top. Trump planned on winning quickly with his over the top rhetoric and reality star name recognition. Now that the primary fight has started to drag out his flaws and lack of planning are becoming evident. I love it myself because my primary vote might actually mean something this year. Normally our May primary is choosing our state reps because the national choice was made long before we had a chance to vote.
” He attacked everyone and said that the RNC and the nasty TV and radio people are out to get him! ”
Sounds like Obama.
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/04/levin-90-percent-chance-this-goes-to-convention
And he details WHY. It isn’t complex.
At this stage it is almost guaranteed to go to convention (Cruz can only get the delegates by a massive landslide, and Trump is looking like he can’t close the deal either).
At that point the only question left is, “How stupid is the RNC?”
They could get away with picking either Cruz or Trump. Anybody else and there is going to be a massive backlash and total revolt in the party.
The weasel Preibus has said that there will be no outsiders picked at the convention. If that is true then Cruz will probably win on the second ballot.
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How Wisconsin GOP voters would vote if Trump and Clinton were the nominees:
http://abcn.ws/1S9erJR
http://pic.twitter.com/pax5s6eDlz
5:20pm · 5 Apr 2016 · TweetDeck
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[email protected] on @HillaryClinton: “Her campaign in private admits she’s likely to lose tonight [in Wisc.]” #WIPrimary
http://pic.twitter.com/9v3SQT7wZb
5:54pm · 5 Apr 2016 · Twitter Web Client
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Some poor Hillary supporter didn’t like that tweet…
Desperately trying to shed a tear for her, but can’t. Even with Sanders in my eye.
You know, you could just get like 4 other people from this comment section to follow you on Twitter, and they’d see your retweets. And the world would be a better place.
As her idol would say, “Shes bleeding out of her whatever”.
Cruz wins. Trump reportedly looking for photos of Wisconsin’s wife.
I bet his Joe Atlas Hand Stretcher is getting a real work-out…
I down-voted you, but that’s funny! I got a good laugh out of that one!
No prob. I only get concerned when I don’t get down votes. And thanks!
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Voting Female Retweeted Morning Joe
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BREAKING: Ted Cruz is the projected winner of the Wisconsin GOP primary.
More: http://nbcnews.to/1SOrUtB #Decision2016
6:48 PM – 5 Apr 2016
Well.
Cruz up 20 just now. Don’t know if that’ll hold, but DAYAAAAM…
It didn’t hold. With 99% of the precincts reporting, It’s:
Cruz 45.3%
Trump 35.1%
Evidently, they counted the cities first. Cruz won in the cities, but Trump took the rest of the state, per NYT election maps.
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/wisconsin
Excuse me:
Cruz 48.3%
Trump 35.1%
So a 13% over for Cruz.
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/wisconsin
Cruz only won by 13.1% OHNOES!
Cruz landslide in WI
52 – 31 – 15 42% in
Great news for Ryan
Uhm. No.
Ryans district went easily for Trump unless something major changed last I looked.
Moves Ryan closer to the nomination. You don’t really think if they can block Trump they won’t block Cruz do you?
Winning home states or districts is the expected norm, and only losing them held significant.
As for leap-frogging both Trump and Cruz, if it goes to open convention, I’m sure the GOP has zero problem dropping Trump – it’s been their plan since, oh, about June 16, 2015. They’d hoped someone would beat him flat out, hasn’t happened yet, or that Trump would self-destruct, a possibility that seems to grow if Trump’s past several weeks are considered.
Leap-frogging over Trump loses one-third of registered Republicans, a price they’d gladly pay. Leap-frogging over both top vote-getters, Trump and Cruz, is a whole nuther ball game. That’s 80% of the votes cast in the primaries. The GOP may very well decide that their November chances are better with Cruz and his powerful campaign organization, than going with some new face who has no ground game, no base of supporters, etc. It wouldn’t mean they love Cruz by any means – they decidedly do not – but they also didn’t want Reagan, froze him out in 1976, and tried again in 1980, but he got the necessary delegates before the 1980 GOP convention. Reagan turned out pretty good for the GOP, a two-termer whose VP won as well.
Winning by 20% is totally unfair. But also awesome. Congrats to Cruz team for running such a great campaign. Hope this is a turn in momentum.
Wisconsin’s Republicans go harder right while the Democrats just go batshit crazy. For better or worse there’s no such thing as middle ground around here anymore. Can’t wait to see the turnout breakdowns.
An ok win tonight for the Scott Walker GOP establishment machine.
Interesting to note that even the Scott Walker establisnment machine could not beat the #NeverCruz factions tonight. Tonight a majority of Wisconsin republicans voted against Ted Cruz. And if Kasich weren’t in the race Trump would have won beating tge Walker machine.
I liked Trump’s statement. I hope it means his attempts at making nice with the GOPe are over and he goes back to attacking the GOPe republicans in Congress and party leadership along with his other campaign strategies and positions.
I bet he threatens a law suit in the morning…!!!
Class? He ain’t got it.
You may be the only person who wold combine the Trump and Kasich votes. Even if it is true that they are both rejections of Cruz (and trump voters may not all or mostly reject Cruz) they’re not united on any other point.
The Kasich voters are most definitely anti-Trump. Or what else are they?
Naturally – he’s one of the brain dead cultists. Trump could strangle a puppy on live TV and Britt would applaud it as showing strength.
only if it was your puppy.
Gari would LOVE to have his lizard choked by his man-crush…!!!
That was addressed to Gary Britt, but appears under an intervening Reply, as I could have realized.
Not to take anything away from Cruz, but if the Trump juggernaut continues to slow, The Donald really only has himself to blame. Trump dug himself into a hole by predicting a big win in Wisconsin and contradicting virtually every poll / forecast, and now he’s continuing to dig deeper by accusing Cruz of illegal campaigning.
Most candidates usually have a sense of when they’re not going to win and try to downplay / minimize the loss ahead of time and focus on what’s next, which for him is two big opportunities – Pennsylvania and Florida. Trump’s biggest asset is perceived strength and toughness and if he loses it, the voters in those states aren’t going be kind.
You mean New York. Trump already beat Rubio in Florida, and thus Rubio is out.
But you’re right, Trump has only himself to blame for any momentum change.
Yes New York of course – thanks for the correction.
This makes it much easier to block Trump. For Cruz, though, he has a narrow window to the nomination. First stop Trump on the first ballot, then get to 1237 on the 2nd or 3rd. 4th is possible, but only if he gets very close on the 3rd.
After 3-4 ballots, delegates will begin to seek a compromise candidate, most likely someone who was never a candidate this cycle. But the campaigns thus far have been burning, not building bridges, and it seems a long shot any current cycle candidate could mount a late surge.
Trump, of course, is melting down, as his classless statement and refusal to appear last night demonstrate. Good.
Wow. Trump’s post statement was even uglier than I’d expected. Classless and juvenile.
Is it just me or does Trump’s face always look like he slept all night with his face in a bowl of Cheetos?
His statement was so ugly, I can’t imagine any sentient adult approving it to go out.
Trump probably didn’t, but was unreachable by his campaign spokeswoman, Hope Hicks. She initially e-mailed it only to the Washington Post.
That statement was almost certainly written before the results came in, when Donald Trump (unrealistically) thought he would win.
My favorite post primary Trump supporter comment, read over at Hot Air – Cruz only won because Wisconsin is a Canadian border state*.
*(FYI for Trump supporters – Wisconsin does not share a border with Canada).
“Donald J. Trump withstood the onslaught of the establishment yet again. Lyin’ Ted Cruz had the Governor of Wisconsin, many conservative talk radio show hosts, and the entire party apparatus behind him. Not only was he propelled by the anti-Trump Super PAC’s spending countless millions of dollars on false advertising against Mr. Trump, but he was coordinating `with his own Super PAC’s (which is illegal) who totally control him. Ted Cruz is worse than a puppet— he is a Trojan horse, being used by the party bosses attempting to steal the nomination from Mr. Trump.”
Shorter Der Donald: getting schlonged…it BURNSSSSS….!!!!
Donald Trump statement:
That means that Trump is saying Ted Cruz is being used to give the nomination to some third person, i.e. a vote for Ted Cruz is a vote for somebody who is not Trump and not Cruz.
That’s probably exactly what about half the voters for Ted Cruz in Wisconsin intended.
Trump withstodd the onslaught about as well as Homestead, Florida withstodd Hurricane Andrew.
Withstodd. Sigh. Withstood.
“Here is hoping that several 10s of thousands of hate walker with a passion democrats and independents cross over and vote Trump just to stick it in Walkers eye. Keep your fingers crossed.”
—Gaghdad Bob Britt, April 5
Just one of the 1,000,000 ways Britt self-identifies as a Collectivist puke, without a conservative notion is his crap-packed skull.
I have to wonder if the recent Sanders surge isn’t hurting Trump in the States with open primaries?
With Clinton looking a bit less inevitable, maybe it’s becoming more important for some Dems to actually vote for their candidate – instead of voting to undermine the GOP.
An astute observation. Nice catch.
Donald Trump sounds exactly like the late pitch man Billy Mays, and has exactly the same amount of integrity.
Interesting. The R’s still don’t have a candidate who can break the 50% barrier. Trump’s beaten 49%, and that back when there were far more candidates, but of course anything less than 50% means most voters wanted someone else … as has been repeatedly mentioned when Trump was the one who fell short.
Getting more into the weeds here than I like, but…
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2016/by_cd/WI_GOP_0405_VD.html?SITE=AP&SECTION=POLITICS
Several of the congressional districts showed over 50% Cruz, or right at it.
And that’s with every-stinking-body still on the ballots.
These results are REALLY ugly for T-rump.
It’s been noted that Trump refused to go on-air with a standard concession speech after last night’s landslide defeat in a state he’d bragged he’d win. This may be an errant assumption, that Trump wouldn’t go on-air. Perhaps he *couldn’t* go on-air, due to some sort of rage and anger breakdown, too out of it to be allowed by handlers to go in front of the cameras.
I think someone prevailed on Trump (perhaps his daughter which has a svengali like influence) to stay away from twitter and cameras so as to cease the pratfalls.
If you can’t act Presidential, and you can’t control yourself, isolate.
Hopefully Trump will start tweeting again. Cruz needs Trump to be Trump.
Which would also suggest that Trump’s hot air rhetoric is not an act to appeal to voter anger, but the real Trump – not in control.
From the mouth of babes. My 21 yr old daughter just suggested to me that maybe Trump is freaking out because as a billionaire businessman, he simply never has the experience of being told ‘no’ or of ever having what he says contested, in essence, he’s a victim of his own self-made bubble. Now that he’s losing contest after contest, he just can’t handle it.
Well, that holds some water, but it isn’t broadly the case.
Remember, T-rump has proposed to build the tallest building in America (or the world…don’t recall) in several cities in the U.S., and been turned away with a flea in his ear. The West Coast was particularly inhospitable to The Man From WrestleMania, as I recall.
However, there is a good chance that the man who literally washes in the adulation of big crowds of people and positive polling is experiencing a lurching crisis when faced with the fact that yuuuuuuuuge numbers of people vote AGAINST him. Cognitive…and very delicate ego…dissonance.