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Dear @TedCruz – Fight to the end (UPDATE)

Dear @TedCruz – Fight to the end (UPDATE)

Sorry @Reince, the Party’s over

https://legalinsurrection.com/2016/01/gop-establishment-stuck-on-stage-2-of-grief-with-cruz-at-stage-5-with-trump/#more-158169

Last night was the night Mr. Donald J. Trump took a big step towards a first ballot win. As abhorrent at that result may be, there’s no sense deluding ourselves.

Trump still isn’t there, however, and isn’t yet on a trajectory to be there. But he’s a lot closer as a result of small Republican electorates in northeast blue states which will vote Democrat in the general election.

California will decide the fate of the Republican nomination process. Who could have predicted that?

Perhaps recognizing what a Trump nomination means, RNC Chair Reince Priebus appealed last night for party unity. My response was to state the obvious, the Party is over.

If Trump is the nominee, one-third of the Party walks. If Cruz or someone else is the nominee, one-third of the Party walks.

Ted, don’t capitulate to the new media narrative that we have a presumptive Republican nominee, because that is capitulating to disaster.

Unless and until 1237 delegates to the Republican convention cast their vote on the floor of the convention for a particular candidate, there is no nominee. “Presumptive” means nothing.

I hope Cruz manages to keep Trump from a first ballot victory, and then pulls out a second or third or fourth or whatever ballot win. Not for himself, and certainly not for the Republican Party.

It’s about country. And our individual liberty, to which both Mr. Donald J. Trump and Mrs. Hillary Rodham Clinton represent existential threats, each in their own special personal ways.

A Trump versus Hillary general election is lose-lose.

So fight on Ted. To the end.

UPDATE 11:15 p.m.: Always nice to have Mark Levin comment on air about one of my posts:

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“So fight on Ted. To the end.”

Yep. Rat own…!!!

    Wife and i went to an evening Cruz event in SoCal a few weeks ago. One characteristic of his that we noticed was his stamina: He was shuttling between Wisconsin and California, and he had impressive energy. I understand that his Texas senate primary run demonstrated the same grit, enthusiasm, and determination. We will attend another such event this Saturday in Santa Barbara County.
    Cruz won’t give up on his campaign or on America.
    Bless him and his family.

    forksdad in reply to Ragspierre. | April 27, 2016 at 10:34 am

    Yes indeed keep playing the rat, Ted. You can’t bring to the table the numbers or enthusiasm of Trump but you sure can spoil what’s there. Keep being an unlikable, unscrupulous, stab you in the back GOPe bought and paid for house slave.

    Enjoy.

      Rick in reply to forksdad. | April 27, 2016 at 10:52 am

      Talk about spoiling: Your thoughtful and substantive comments seem designed to ensure that Cruz supporters will not support Trump should he get the nomination.

        forksdad in reply to Rick. | April 27, 2016 at 11:25 am

        I’m sorry, did somebody take down the #nevertrump sign? Because if you did, I missed it. No, I am not civil to rats and Cruz is a rat.

        He has the morals of a pickpocket or lawyer (but I repeat myself). If you want to include yourself with him in his trying to snake delegates go ahead. You’ve already included yourself with the Bush clan. You’re standing next to Jeb and Neil Bush, you better watch your wallet.

        Enjoy.

          inspectorudy in reply to forksdad. | April 27, 2016 at 11:45 am

          At least he has morals!

          SDN in reply to forksdad. | April 29, 2016 at 9:09 am

          Remind me again, who gave money to Vichy Mitchy, got the Boehner endorsement, oh, and spent time with Billy Jeff and Epstein on Pedophile Island? The only guy around that named Cruz was the illegal staff washing the dishes.

          Leftists hate people with principles. Explains you perfectly.

      Yep. Have Cruz keep tilting at windmills and charging full speed ahead. It might sooth the egos of him and his more rabid followers but it ignores what is best for the country and the party.

      Follow Cruz the professor’s advice and stroke your ego while ruining any chance you ever have in the future of being President.

      Cruz’s only chance to EVER be president is to suck it up and take the actions necessary to get Trump to pick him for VP or a major cabinet post. Follow the professor’s advice and his own prideful ambition to the bitter end, and that will NEVER happen, which means he will NEVER be president or any thing else in the republican party.

      Cruz is hated by the GOPe, if not a Trump VP or major cabinet post he will never be anything but hated by the GOPe. Cruz will never again have the popularity with voters that he has today. This is his moment and this is his time. He has to make the right choice or be irrelevant forever in the future except as a commentator on cable news.

      Choose wisely Senator Cruz.

      malclave in reply to forksdad. | April 27, 2016 at 12:43 pm

      It’s funny that Trump supporters pretend they care about who is spoiling things.

    practicalconservative in reply to Ragspierre. | April 27, 2016 at 12:14 pm

    Cruz Lost. Lost Big. He is just driving into a brick wall now.

      Cruz is done. Stick a fork in him. He has a talent for angering people. So he will keep going. Probably pretend his name is on the ballot in the fall.

      His political career will be over if he carries this much further.

      Trump’s supporter constantly whine about people having the right to vote so why can’t you wait until those of us who still haven’t had the opportunity to vote be given the right to vote?

      And why are Trump supporters giving the mainstream media power to select the nominees?

      Keep going Ted Cruz!! I am a taxpaying America who has the right to vote for you!!!!

      conservative tarheel in reply to practicalconservative. | April 27, 2016 at 3:11 pm

      Yeah .. Cruz lost in the NE states that will vote Dem in the fall.
      big deal …

        Yup. Ted lost in the Northeast, a Democrat stronghold.

        However,

        Ted also lost in the South.

        Ted has lost in most of the Midwest.

        Ya know… those other Democrat strongholds.

    justicewarrior in reply to Ragspierre. | April 27, 2016 at 12:19 pm

    A Message for you, oh one on the Rags,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo

Cruz to make a major announcement at 4pm today. My guess is a major endorsement; either Mike Pence, Mitch Daniels, or both.

    cantor4massat4 in reply to spartan. | April 27, 2016 at 10:31 am

    I wonder if it would be his VP pick?

      forksdad in reply to cantor4massat4. | April 27, 2016 at 10:39 am

      Whomever the GOPe tells him will be will be his veep pick. Please let it be the biggest Cuck in the room (other than Cruz).

        Milhouse in reply to forksdad. | April 27, 2016 at 10:47 am

        Using the non-word “cuck” is a sure sign that the user is a loathesome and useless creature who will never say anything worth listening to.

          forksdad in reply to Milhouse. | April 27, 2016 at 11:28 am

          Keep ringing those clown bells jester. I see you’ve put on your Carrie Nations dress and wig to complete the look.

          Keep on ‘sperging, Spergy McSpergatron. Complain about cuck some more. You are hilarious.

    Probably nothing of substance. Big endorsements would leak in advance. Desperate attempt to get somebody to cover his response to Trump foreign policy speech.

    More Cruz desperation.

      Libbylu in reply to Gary Britt. | April 27, 2016 at 11:23 am

      Wow. Trump’s supporters care nothing about his positions that have all had to be walked back a little or a lot and even he can’t keep him with them. They like him acting like a total lefty, which he is. He is so ignorant I bet he could not pass the test required to become a US citizen. He is a vile braggart who used intimidation and the mob to make his money which is probably probably at least $9 billion short of his claim. His constant whining and Alinsky tactics are divisive and destructive. Of course you don’t care about any of the above. Trump chumps could care less about truth or him destroying what is left of the USA.

        inspectorudy in reply to Libbylu. | April 27, 2016 at 11:50 am

        I’m with you Libby. I simply cannot understand the enthusiasm for Trump when he hasn’t said anything of substance. He has no specifics on anything. He is going to give a foreign speech today and it will be interesting to see if he can read it without stumbling because it will all be new to him. What happened to the people who used to complain about obama not having a clue about the world? Trump is just like him only he inherited $100,000,000!

          I could be wrong but believe the drive behind his supporters is that 1)he is not political, and 2)he is not PC. I find both appealing BUT will not vote for a president this year. I WILL vote for congress, though my voice and vote don’t really mean anything. I’m fooling myself. We probably all are.

        The facts show the ignorance of your comments.

        You say Trump is dumb basically. Yet that dumb Trump is wiping the floor with Cruz’s arse all over this nation. Cruz and his super pacs have spent over 100 million dollars on his campaign and negative ads against Trump, and yet that dummy Trump is kicking his BUTT big time.

        Cruz must have a negative IQ to do so poorly after having outspent Trump by a 100 million dollars or more.

        Cruz is so dumb he can’t even come up with his own campaign positions. He is reduced to “me too Teddy” and blatantly copying virtually EVERYTHING Trump campaigns on.

        Yeah Cruz is the smart one. Just like you.

          Ragspierre in reply to Gary Britt. | April 27, 2016 at 12:51 pm

          The same old litany of lies.

          Cruz LED on the issues of immigration, ending ObamaCare, and reforming the federal government.

          Der Donald is late to the ball. HE’S the late adopter.

          And he’s phony. He’s a stinking, lying Collectivist fraud. And he’s demonstrated all that.

          inspectorudy in reply to Gary Britt. | April 27, 2016 at 7:45 pm

          By your yardstick, that would make obama the smartest man in 8 years! In this society of ours today I have no idea what makes people react the way they do. Trump supporters are reacting JUST like obama supporters and look how that turned out! Over 60% of millennials think that socialism is better than capitalism. Who would have thought that? I think we have an “Entertain me now” population and Trump fits that bill. Unfortunately, like obama, he hasn’t a clue how to get any of the things he has promised done. For those of you who support Trump, I sincerely hope that you are right and that he has an ounce of patriotism in his greedy soul. He hasn’t shown it in the first 69 years of his life but hey, who knows.

          murkyv in reply to Gary Britt. | April 27, 2016 at 9:03 pm

          Libby has been banned numerous times from another site, but the owner kept letting her back in because he feels sorry for the simple-minded.

          She has been a running joke over there for the past few months.

          I think you can see why.

        murkyv in reply to Libbylu. | April 27, 2016 at 8:59 pm

        4 times banned Libbylu stalking this site now, huh?

A Trump versus Hillary general election is lose-lose.

Or, at the very least, unknown-known. You know what you’ll get with Hillary Clinton.

#NeverHillary

“So fight on Ted. To the end.”

Amen and Amen!

    You mean let’s you and my smoke filled room lawyers fight. Hilarious that you even think Cruz is fighting. He’s lawyering. If this was a fight he’d be holding coats rifling through wallets.

      You Trumpists are obsessed with “smoke filled rooms”. Maybe you should spend time outside a the casino.

      You Trumpists already spend a lot of time at casinos, hobnobbing with slot machines.

        Look at the little girl put her fingers in her ears and stamp her feet. Don’t like the sight of Uncle Teddy going through peoples’ jackets at church? Just pretend it isn’t happening.

        Don’t like the guys that are holding Uncle Teddy’s leash? Just pretend they are not there or maybe convince yourself that the Bushes and the GOPe are really nice guys. Those leashes look almost like neckties don’t they?

        Insult anyone who points out the Uncle Teddy is holding one wallet in his mouth and grabbing all he can get from the vestibule.

        Maybe he knew from the jump he was an unlikable guy who could never win without the full support of the GOPe. Maybe not but he sure jumped at their support, he sure plays their game and is master of those delegates. Think about this, whose delegates were those going to be if Jeb had been number two instead of Uncle Teddy?

          Give us proof of your slanderous claims.

          forksdad in reply to forksdad. | April 27, 2016 at 11:53 am

          Slanderous? Funny that, do you acknowledge that the Bushes endorse Cruz, are funding his campaign and have the S&L bandit ‘Neil the Kid’ running his finance team?

          Do you acknowledge that the GOPe is coordinating the #NeverTrump and that they have spent millions to stop him and your boy Cruz is now deep in the bunker with them?

          Do you acknowledge that you couldn’t even try to address the post but instead made a comment about the commenter?

          Slanderous? Nothing but generous from what I can see.

          Cretans at the Gate.

cantor4massat4 | April 27, 2016 at 10:29 am

Slick Willie asked Trump to get “involved”. I think he started out for Hillary but now he might really want it. When Hillary ultimately wins, she’ll be like Merkel.
Refugees and illegal aliens, future voters, will keep the Democrats in majority forever. I believe that if Cruz doesn’t win, not only is the Republican Party finished, our country will never be the same. Cruz is a fighter, and it’s good he is, because he’s fighting just about everyone.

    forksdad in reply to cantor4massat4. | April 27, 2016 at 11:38 am

    Cruz fighting? Lawyering okay, I’ll buy that but nose to nose, toe to toe slugging it out? He’s getting creamed. He’s not even trying the ‘rope-a-dope’, he’s just clinching and screaming for the ref to help him while throwing rabbit punches at the back of the other guys head.

    What’s next when he knows he’s lost? Bite an ear. I suppose you’d call that fighting too.

      inspectorudy in reply to forksdad. | April 27, 2016 at 7:54 pm

      Are you off your meds? Cruz has wiped the floor with Trump on any subject. You can make all the silly claims you want but you KNOW that Cruz is way smarter than Trump. “We’re going to make the military bigger than it has ever been before”. We are going to build a wall and Mexico is going to pay for it”. “We are going to make the VA better than it has ever been”. “We are not going to touch Medicare or Social Security”. “We are going to stop all unfair trade the first day I’m in office”. “We are going to get out of NATO”. “We are going to get out of the UN”. In all of these statements Trump has not offered ONE SINGLE piece of evidence that he knows how to do any of them. Cruz hasn’t made these kinds of political “Chicken in every pot” statements because he knows they can’t be done by one man. Trump has never had to take orders from anyone and has bribed and bullied his way to where he is. But he won’t be able to do that if he gets in the WH. Where has your commonsense gone?

At this point all Cruz is doing is damaging the party. He can fight – that’s his choice and the people who fund him – but he will lose. And lose badly. There is not going to be a second ballot. Particularly since Trump cleaned up virtually all of PA’s unbound delegates.

Cruz can go around a basketball state like Indiana and talk about basketball “rings” while Trump brings in Mr Indiana Basketball himself, Bobby Knight, to campaign for him. It just makes Cruz look like a pathetic loser.

    mhamilton1701 in reply to PhillyGuy. | April 27, 2016 at 10:50 am

    You are right> Why I havent heard a gaffe like that since “7/11”

    cantor4massat4 in reply to PhillyGuy. | April 27, 2016 at 11:09 am

    “A pathetic loser”. There’s one pathetic candidate who doesn’t know anything about the issues and has been funding the libs for 40 years, and that is the reality show, Trump. Cruz has always kept his word and promises to his constituents and has consistently fought for We the People. He has been preparing for this campaign for over year and you think he should just call it quits when it has not been decided. Yeah, sure. 23 million people have voted and over 60% did not vote for Trump.

The electorate [remember those guys?] is speaking loudly this year. As the exit polling in Pennsylvania showed, the voters feel “betrayed” by establishment politicians. So, they went with THE anti-establishment outsider, Trump. Cruz, for all of his attempts to appear as an anti-establishment politician has to many connections which suggest that he is much less anti-establishment than he appears. The Republican party created Trump by studiously ignoring the clearly expressed desires of its membership. The Republican electorate was screaming for the repeal of Obamacare. It was screaming for the enforcement of immigration laws. It was screaming against legislative actions which would make it easier to export American jobs and businesses. And, the politicians totally ignored them. So, now we have a revolution and the political leadership is wringing its hands and bemoaning the situation.

As to the argument that if Trump or Cruz do not get the nomination then 1/3 of the GOP electorate will walk, in the General Election, this is probably true. However, the major difference this makes, for the General Election, is that Cruz is far less likely to pick up significant independent voters and would not pick up any Democrat voters. Trump, on the other hand, will still have some conservative appeal and is far more likely to pick-up significant independent support as well as some Democrats. Remember, in the campaign for the General election, candidates, from both parties, have to run as moderates or they will lose the contest. Trump can do that much more effectively than can Cruz.

Cruz will stay in the race. He is a career politician and a good showing in the primaries this year can serve as a springboard for a later nomination for President. Also, there are a large percentage of Cruz supporters in delegate positions [even though those delegates supposedly represent Trump in the first vote]. If there is no nominee on the first vote, then Cruz, through his supporters among the delegates, is in a very good position to heavily influence the convention. Again, a plus for a career politician. This can influence what policies Trump may be forced to embrace.

One thing that has to be remembered, if the Republican Party does not want to simply disappear, is that the rank and file membership is not voting FOR Trump. It is voting against the political establishment which ignores the wishes of the electorate. And, if the Party ignores the expressed wishes of the electorate, in the primaries, then it will lose a huge percentage of its membership; probably forever.

    Excellent post asbusual but Trump’s voters are voting for Trump because of his policy positions.

      blah, blah, blah…the same old meme.

      Where have the Trump voters been the past seven years? With their head in the sand looking for a lucky Trump casino token?

      “Trump’s voters are voting for Trump because of his policy positions” – which are: “I am a wall of greatness.”

      94Corvette in reply to Gary Britt. | April 27, 2016 at 11:27 am

      And the wonderful thing about Trump’s positions if that if you don’t like the one today, he’ll pivot to another one tomorrow.

      Mac45 in reply to Gary Britt. | April 27, 2016 at 1:30 pm

      I don’t really think that is true. Trump’s positions mean less than the fact that he is not an establishment insider. Exit polling in Pennsylvania finally asked the question of why why people are voting for Trump and got an honest answer. The vast majority, as reported by Fox News, said that they felt betrayed by the elected, establishment politicians.

      Trump has changed his expressed stand on several policy issues during the campaign. And, the voters don’t seem to care.

        Trump has changed nothing of importance.

        1. Build wall.
        2. Enforce our laws, and deport illegals.
        3. Correct our stupid trade pacts.
        4. Bring jobs back and fix economy.
        5. Appoint conservative supreme court justices.
        6. Fix the stupid tax system and get corps to bring their money back to this country.

        Nothing has ever changed about any of these things.

        Yes people want an outsider. That is because the insiders have refused to do the things that Trump is promising to do. The base has been begging the insiders to secure the border stop illegal immigration, oppose Obama, etc. etc. They would do it. This has been going on for 10 years ever since Bush 43, McCain and Graham and McConnell first began pushing comprehensive immigration reform. They wouldn’t listen so when an outsider comes along who says he will do the things the insiders won’t do, yes he skyrockets to top of polls. But its because of what he promises to do, and not simply because he is an outsider.

        An outsider who promised to never secure the border and to do comprehensive immigration reform would never get votes. Its the policies not the outsider status by itself.

          prohoss in reply to Gary Britt. | April 28, 2016 at 4:54 pm

          1.Build a wall that Mexico will not pay for and Congress likely will not appropriate money for. (Like we have any money anyway)
          2. Ship illegal aliens out and then, readmit them legally.
          3. Pursue protectionist trade policies that historically, cause inflation and wreck our economy.
          4. Apparently, tell companies where they can produce their products. (Not sure where the Constitutional authority is for that)
          5. Appoint conservative SC justices like his sister. Right.
          6. His tax plan would be an improvement on our current system. Repatriation of corporate earnings would be great. His protectionist trade policies would not entice companies to do more business here, though.

          Of course, these are his positions now. They are subject to change like his stances on abortion, Libya, Syria, Iraq, healthcare, immigration, etc. This is what happens with people without principles.

      inspectorudy in reply to Gary Britt. | April 28, 2016 at 12:02 am

      You don’t have a clue what his policy positions are and you know it! What you have are your own desires and you have transposed them on to Trump. It is really sad that a group of patriotic Americans has done this without knowing anything about Trump and his past beliefs. It’s like “We don’t care if we are wrong, we just want something different”. God help us!

    gmac124 in reply to Mac45. | April 27, 2016 at 4:03 pm

    You keep braying about the electorate without considering where they are coming from. Trumps electorate consists of disenfranchised voters that haven’t voted in years, people that are registered/vote republican that feel betrayed by the party elite, and democrats that are voting for who they feel is the “weakest” general election candidate. Two parts of Trumps support hasn’t voted Republican in years when it has mattered. On the other hand the electorate that is pushing Ted Cruz is the Tea Party. It appears that the Tea Party doesn’t have enough members to carry the popular vote at this time but they are very active as local/state delegates. Which is why Cruz has been doing so well with delegates, they are Tea Party activists supporting the Tea Party candidate.

    Will 1/3 of the party stay home/vote non R choice for president if Trump is not nominated. No.
    Will 1/3 of the party stay home/vote non R choice for president if Cruz is not nominated. Yes.

    inspectorudy in reply to Mac45. | April 27, 2016 at 8:07 pm

    Where to start? You have made so many wrong statements that it is hard to know how uninformed you really are. ALL of the states that Trump just won are Demorat states. It doesn’t matter what the R’s in those states say. Your absurd statement that Cruz did not lead the fight against obamacare is ludicrous. He SHUT DOWN THE US GOVERNMENT over obamacare! Your analysis about how the independents will vote is nonsense. You haven’t a clue what they will do. If it gets to a convention and Cruz wins then he will have an opportunity to rebut hillary’s communist agenda and answer it with intelligence instead of yuge comments.
    For you to claim that Cruz is a career politician shows how uninformed you really are. He has held one elected office for half a term. And finally, I have no idea what your last paragraph said since it is so poorly written that its meaning is indecipherable.

      murkyv in reply to inspectorudy. | April 27, 2016 at 9:14 pm

      What about all of the Republican strongholds that Ted has lost and lost by landslides?

      There’s about 15 of them there red states that rejected Ted, maybe you missed them.

        inspectorudy in reply to murkyv. | April 28, 2016 at 12:08 am

        Murky, describe “Landslide”. You are just like your idol, you have no ability to talk without hyperbole. Oh wait! Do you mean that he won 47% of the votes in FL but got all of the delegates? Then you are right. He got more than he should have and the system is rigged! How about we take all of his delegates away and then start over? Or how about NY where he got 60% of the votes but got 95% of the delegates? Is that fair or is the system rigged? Please come up with a coherent strategy so we can all get on boar4d.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/04/27/polls-trump-down-11-to-hillary-trails-millennials-by-36-points-losing-in-arizona-n2153960

But T-rump cultists will easily deny all that. They are liars, and like all Collectivists, they lie to themselves every day. FIRST.

    forksdad in reply to Ragspierre. | April 27, 2016 at 11:48 am

    Collectivist? You’re standing with the GOPe, neocons, and transnationals who love America so much they can’t wait to bleed it dry.

      Ragspierre in reply to forksdad. | April 27, 2016 at 11:55 am

      You’e showing every sign of galloping toward a psychotic break. You may want to back off a little for the sake of your privilege to post here.

        forksdad in reply to Ragspierre. | April 27, 2016 at 5:43 pm

        So I should shut up because you’re offended? I wasn’t aware this was your blog. Even if it was I wouldn’t change a thing.

        You may live on your computer just waiting to say something crude about Trump but I don’t think that makes you king of the internet. I could be wrong though.

      Vascaino in reply to forksdad. | April 28, 2016 at 1:50 pm

      So who are the neocons you mention?
      Care to name them?
      I mean could it be the same ones the Democrats raged about during the Bush Administration?

Maybe Cruz will score a last minute 3 pointer right into the “basketball ring” next week in Indiana ?

Nahhhhh….

Hahahahaha

    DrJim77 in reply to DrJim77. | April 27, 2016 at 11:39 am

    Down votes are a badge of honor on the Trumpinsurrection Website. Keep em coming…

      malclave in reply to DrJim77. | April 27, 2016 at 12:54 pm

      Gotta wonder if any of these Trump supporters would even allow dissent if they ran blogs.

      Impression I get is that, like other Democrat sites, they would not tolerate different opinions.

      Ragspierre in reply to DrJim77. | April 27, 2016 at 1:01 pm

      Like Bierhall Bullyboi Britt, and his little yellow god, Mr. Establishment, many T-rump suckers HATE the Constitution, and would eagerly deny you or I our rights under it.

      We know this from Der Donald’s entire life history.

    inspectorudy in reply to DrJim77. | April 28, 2016 at 12:09 am

    Maybe Trump will save us all from another 7/11!

I think the conclusion that one third of the party “will walk” is not well thought out and a knee jerk reaction in the heat of the moment. I support Trump but if Cruz is the nominee through some second or third ballot process I will vote for him. I am 76 years old and learned long ago that “taking my marbles and going home” never served me well at the end of the day. It’s time to be adults and I suspect that ultimately many of the passionate here will demonstrate that same wisdom.

    forksdad in reply to Walter. | April 27, 2016 at 11:46 am

    Nope, I’m following the leader here. The party is over, it’s Whigged itself out of existence or relevancy. He’s right, it’s done.

    I won’t be on the same side as the Bushes any more. I won’t stand and clap while the neo-cons or their dem allies carve up another country like the Christmas goose. So it’s either the we kick out the elites or we bust up. I’m fine either way.

      malclave in reply to forksdad. | April 27, 2016 at 12:55 pm

      So you support Hillary to punish the GOP.

        forksdad in reply to malclave. | April 27, 2016 at 5:48 pm

        You can retract or point to anywhere I said I would support Hillary or where I wrote #NeverCruz.

        Projection pure and simple. The party elites are openly talking about a third party run against their own candidate and you’re saying I’m voting for Hillary.

      tom swift in reply to forksdad. | April 27, 2016 at 1:18 pm

      The Whigs actually fractured over a major policy question. Not so the modern Republicans; the Republican party just sort of … drifted into irrelevance, and died.

      Look at the top Republicans in government. Boehner, McConnell, Ryan … not exactly movers & shakers; more like something between time-servers and surrender-monkeys. Not at all what the United States needs if it’s going to fight back against the socialist assault.

      inspectorudy in reply to forksdad. | April 27, 2016 at 8:10 pm

      I wish I could write what I really want to say to you and your smug Trump attitude. It is F*CK YOU and the yuge horse you rode in on!

Thinking of renaming this sight to The Black Knights of Ted Cruz forum ?

The refusal of one group to vote for the other groups candidate is more asymmetrical then you present. Trump voters refuse to vote for another GOPe candidate, on top of all the nastiness that has come in the last few weeks.

No matter what Cruz supporters say they will vote for Trump.
Those that say they won’t haven’t thought out the consequences. One consequence in particular.

    The Livewire in reply to RodFC. | April 27, 2016 at 1:52 pm

    Incorrect on the premise. I for one won’t vote for Trump. I’d vote libertarian first, since at least some of their values match my own conservative values.

    In fact, such voting has a long and storied history. Buckley endorsed Lieberman as an independent, since at least some of his values were in alignment. And there was ‘vote for the crook, it’s important’ from Louisana.

    It’s the Trumpeters who are threating to bolt third party…

      conservative tarheel in reply to The Livewire. | April 27, 2016 at 3:25 pm

      will not be the first time I have voted Libertarian.
      Saw John McCain going over the cliff and voted Libertarian.
      knew that the Dems would get congress and didn’t the
      GOP to get tarred with all the BS the Dems would pass.
      Let the Dems own it.
      I did vote Romney because Obama was just that bad.

    persecutor in reply to RodFC. | April 27, 2016 at 2:42 pm

    Sorry RodFC, but I have thought out the consequences, and still state I will not vote for Trump.

    Trump or Hillary is kind of like asking the condemned man would he prefer beheading or being pulled apart live by horses–in the end, the outcome is the same.

    cantor4massat4 in reply to RodFC. | April 27, 2016 at 2:53 pm

    Trump and Hillary are exactly the same except that Trump is a loose cannon. He may definitely have mental problems. It really doesn’t matter if we don’t vote for Trump because either way our country’s going down the tubes. Our party has been on the brink for a long time so maybe it’s for the best. We will have a one-party system after Hillary’s elected because she’ll make sure all the felons, refugees, and illegal aliens can vote. Heck, even the dead are resurrected. The Democrats will be in the majority forever.

      inspectorudy in reply to cantor4massat4. | April 28, 2016 at 12:17 am

      I hear you and live in your thoughts but Trump is an unknown and despite his a$$hole supporters who are the most obnoxious people on earth I had rather face an unknown that a known disaster. I’ll admit that Trump is a disaster and will go down in history as one of America’s failed solutions. But hillary is known for all the wrong reasons. We know how bad she is and will be, plus her coat tails will end this country’s freedom. Imagine schumer, pelosi and the liberal woman hillary will appoint to the SCOTUS. Trump at least gives us wiggle room to hope and pray that he will do something different. He probably won’t but it is at least a gamble. hillary is sure thing and a sure disaster.

    JackRussellTerrierist in reply to RodFC. | April 27, 2016 at 11:44 pm

    Wrong. Plenty of us are so embarrassed by the oafish circus barker trump and so distrustful of him based on his history of corruption and financial abuse that we find no meaningful difference between him and Hillary and are, thus, willing to roll the “no confidence” dice of not voting for either of them.

    That group includes me…….and every conservative I know. #Nevertrump, #NeverHillary.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich says that Donald Trump’s five big wins Tuesday night mean the only thing left for establishment Republicans to do is to “get over it” and accept that Trump will be the GOP nominee.

“You see the momentum building here,” Gingrich said on Fox News Tuesday night. “I think it’d be very, very hard, virtually impossible, to stop him from winning the nomination at this point.”

“This is an enormous achievement building on New York, and means that he’s almost certainly going to have an absolute majority of the delegates before you get to the convention in Cleveland,” Gingrich added.

Trump passes Romney’s popular vote total, likely to break GOP record

With his five blowout wins Tuesday night, Donald Trump has passed Mitt Romney’s popular vote total from four years ago and is on a trajectory that could land him more Republican votes than any presidential candidate in modern history – by a lot.

Trump surged to 9.9 million votes, according to totals that include Tuesday’s preliminary results across the northeast and could rise further as the final votes are counted. That’s already more than 100,000 more than Romney earned in the entire 2012 primary season and tens of thousands more than John McCain earned in 2008.

Trump is certain to pass McCain’s total next week in Indiana, but more importantly, he’s positioned to easily pass the modern record-holder George W. Bush — who collected 10.8 million votes in 2000.

That presents an uncomfortable reality for anti-Trump forces: they’re attempting to thwart the candidate who is likely to win more Republican primary votes than any GOP contender in at least the last 36 years, and maybe ever.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/twelve-thirty-seven/2016/04/donald-trump-popular-vote-record-222510#ixzz470kv1udt

    mhamilton1701 in reply to Gary Britt. | April 27, 2016 at 1:42 pm

    Well he will certainly win more votes than any Republican who self identified as a Democrat for most of his life but then again thats a small field.

    forksdad in reply to Gary Britt. | April 27, 2016 at 5:53 pm

    That cannot be true. We are assured that Trump has no general appeal, he’ll lose big. He isn’t bringing anyone into the party, he has no momentum and he isn’t a real republican anyway and no true republican votes for him.

    Popular? It must be a lie. The republican party should pick another animal like the ostrich as their symbol.

    jlronning in reply to Gary Britt. | April 27, 2016 at 6:34 pm

    all on the way to the worst electoral college republican loss in history

      murkyv in reply to jlronning. | April 27, 2016 at 9:18 pm

      Name one state that Romney lost that Ted can win.

        gmac124 in reply to murkyv. | April 27, 2016 at 11:08 pm

        Wisconsin

        jlronning in reply to murkyv. | April 28, 2016 at 9:38 am

        more importantly, trump will lose many states Romney won. Hillary even wins UTAH. Trump drives down the conservative base and drives up Hillary’s base – Trump is probably the only thing that can excite Hillary voters to the polls. Recipe for landslide loss all down the line. Simple logic.

… there’s no sense deluding ourselves.

Nothing’s really changed. The clues are a bit stronger, but the situation has been basically static for months.

You were deluding yourself before. So why change now?

The party of stupid had four years to come up with an alternative to Obama back in ’12. Instead, they came up with Mitt. Now, with eight years to come up with a strategy to take back the WH, they come up with nothing. Enjoy another eight years of Dem/Commie rule.

    conservative tarheel in reply to windbag. | April 27, 2016 at 3:27 pm

    windbag …
    it will not be 8 years …
    the Dems will own it forever or until
    the revolution starts …
    there will be no opposition.

    forksdad in reply to windbag. | April 27, 2016 at 5:56 pm

    Demographics are destiny. If we do not deport the illegals they will be legal by the next dem president and they will always and forever vote democrat. They are almost as reliably democrat as felons.

    You can either stop the mass invasion now or get used to the dems winning.

    You have one choice to make. Don’t let hate cloud your judgement.

You know who else fought to the end, don’t you. Does Ted have a bunker? Is there room for all the neverTrumpers? There’s a Downfall parody video just waiting to happen.

    Ragspierre in reply to Rabel. | April 27, 2016 at 4:47 pm

    Abe Lincoln?

    How ’bout Ike Eisenhower?

    Or Barry Goldwater?

    Each came out of a contested convention.

    DownFall THAT, ya moron.

      Rabel in reply to Ragspierre. | April 27, 2016 at 5:11 pm

      I gave you a thumbs up, Rags. I know last night was tough for you. Thought it might help.

        amwick in reply to Rabel. | April 27, 2016 at 5:27 pm

        Mr. Pierre has brought up those historical names before. Too bad he spoils a perfectly good comment with an insult. Guess supporting Rafael is indeed stressful.

        Ragspierre in reply to Rabel. | April 27, 2016 at 5:40 pm

        Typical of what you “know”.

        It was both predicted by me and totally UNstressful. The NE is Collectivist country. They would vote for a New York valued Collectivist puke.

        Amwicken, the idiot implied Cruz is a Nazi, which in turn implied his supporters are Nazis.

        He’s also an historical moron, and I don’t suffer those lightly.

Another Republican calls for an end to #NeverTrump

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/277861-rick-scott-calls-on-gop-to-unite-behind-trump

After Jindal’s pledge to support Trump if he is the nominee, the whining temper tantrum #NeverTrump -ers is getting more isolated and unpopular every day.

    gmac124 in reply to DaMav. | April 27, 2016 at 5:35 pm

    You sound like the McCain and Romney supporters. Of course with Trump running to the middle we can call him Donald “McCain/Romney” Trump. I am sure his results in November will be just as memorable.

#nevertrump – for the love of God and my neighbor, my children and my country, and the world, and for a new or renewed party that stands for what has been the best of America.

    forksdad in reply to jlronning. | April 27, 2016 at 6:03 pm

    Yes please. If you are going to fail, fail faster. We know you want the GOPe to run things for you. You have Cruz the beloved of Bushes and GOPe, as your go to man. Now you have Geraldine Ferraro as his running mate.

    Your wing of the party is determined to drive all popular support and votes to anywhere else. Please keep saying #NeverTrump. If you want to break the party, I’ll stand with America and Americans, you can go stand with the neocons, transnationals, and GOPe.

Thanks Professor! I always want to know your take. I agree it doesn’t look particularly good but Ted has to fight hard.

    Sammy Finkelman in reply to Libbylu. | April 28, 2016 at 6:56 pm

    Not just Ted. And Trump probably needs to endorse the nominee. On the other hand, in 1948, the Democratic Party split 3 ways, at acost of maybe 90 Electoral votes and Dewey still did not defeat Truman.

Sammy Finkelman | April 28, 2016 at 7:00 pm

One possible outcome:

The Republican convention will adjourn after the 11th ballot, at about 3:30 am on Friday, July 22, 2016, without reaching a decision, voting to reconvene on the day before Labor Day, that is, Sunday, September 4, 2016, at a location to be selected by the Republican National Committee, unless the RNC, by a two thirds vote, shall pick a nominee both for President and Vice President.

And then, about August 22, the RNC will select Paul Ryan for president and someone Donald Trump agrees to for vice president.

Democrats will scream bloody murder and try to keep his name off the ballot.

Sammy Finkelman | April 28, 2016 at 7:02 pm

Before that, there will be some credentials fights. About the Virgin Islands, and Colorado.

Then there may be a rules fight, and a fight about what the rules mean.

Trump may propose a rule saying that whoever gets a plurality of delegates on the first ballot, if it is over 45% (or whatever number he can be certain of) gets the nomination.

Cruz may propose a rule saying that if nobody wins on the first ballot, there is runoff betwene the two top finishers on the second ballot. Or maybe the 3rd or the 4th ballot.

Kasich may propose a rule saying that delegates can vote only for someone who filed campaign statements with the Federal Elections Commission.

All 3 may lose.

Then there will be a fight over what the 2012 rules mean.

Do they mean, as Chairman of the convention and Speaker of the House Paul Ryan says, that anyone without the support of amajority of 8 state delegations, does not get a nominating speech on the floor, and that the votes for that person announced by the head of the delegation for that state do not get repeated at the podium, and nothing more?

Or do they mean that no other candidates can be voted for and that votes for them will not be counted. An attempt to overrule the chair will probably lose.

Sammy Finkelman | April 28, 2016 at 7:05 pm

Trump is following a “first ballot or bust” strategy – not even worrying about who delegates may be secretly for, if they are bound, and if anything else happens, it’s not clear what he would do.

What he might do is make a deal with Kasich – the only thing he can do and come out ahead. But now he’s not liking Kasich also. Can he be a king-maker for somebody else, like Rubio? Or Carson??

Trump might have a choice between:

1) Walking out and seeing Cruz winning a majority of a convention while missing many delegates,

2) Seeing Cruz win while staying in the convention, or

3) Throwing his support to somebody not named Ted Cruz.

Trump is the only candidate where a large number of his delegates will follow his direction. Trump can throw it to Kasich but Cruz can’t, and Kasich can’t throw his support anywhere, except for most of Ohio’s 66 delegates.

If Trump walks out, leaving a situation where it is not clear if anyone won the Republican nomination, there might be a struggle across the country to get the state Republican Parties to list Trump or Cruz. In some states both might manage to make it on the ballot in one wway or another.

Trump will probably get on more blue state ballots than anything else. It will at least make it impossible to tabulate the popular vote.

Cruz is following a second or third ballot strategy. If he doesn’t win right away as soon as delegates are released, it’s over for him.

Kasich is following a “maybe-something-will-turn-up on the 4th or later ballot” strategy with the thought also maybe that delegates will feel compelled to vote for someone who ran in the primaries – and if it’s not Trump or Cruz, he’s it!

conservative tarheel | April 29, 2016 at 8:33 am

I suspect Trump is a “Trojan Horse” a Dem to throw
the election to Hillary.
how can the GOP nominate someone who has
such high unfavorables across all demographics ?

Females have a 73% unfavorable rating of Trump. (it is est. that females will be 55% or so of voters in 2016.)

whites will be around 69% of voters Trump has a 60% unfavorable rating.

Hispanics will be around 14% and Trump has a 85% unfavorable rating.

Blacks will be about 13% and Trump has a 81% unfavorable rating

how are you going to win with those numbers.
the GOP is dead.
get the backhoe.

Like I said, Cruz can fight but after Tuesday it will be obvious that Trump is the nominee. There isn’t going to be a second ballot. Trump will easily clear the 1237 threshold. Indiana is Ted’s last stand. And he will fail.

The party as we know it is over. Trump made it bigger. The precious pristine exclusive guild is cracked open. It’s fantastic observing all these civic-minded citizens demanding and seizing their representation. It’s been a very long time in the making.

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