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Mitt Romney rips Trump as “phony” and “fraud”

Mitt Romney rips Trump as “phony” and “fraud”

Does this help or hurt Trump?

Mitt Romney already has gone after Donald Trump, suggesting there might be a “bombshell” in the tax returns Trump now refuses to make public.

Romney is stepping it up a notch, giving a speech today starting at 11:30 a.m. Eastern, in which he lashes out at Donald Trump:

Mitt Romney will call Donald J. Trump “a phony” and “a fraud” in a speech on Thursday in which he will urge Republicans to rally around one of Mr. Trump’s presidential rivals, according to excerpts from his remarks.

The hastily organized speech, to be delivered in Utah, represents a last-ditch effort among leaders in the Republican Party to blunt Mr. Trump’s momentum before he runs away with the presidential nomination. Mr. Romney has been criticizing Mr. Trump on social media in recent weeks, calling on him to release his tax returns and arguing that slowness to denounce the Ku Klux Klan was disqualifying for a presidential candidate.

“Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud,” Mr. Romney will say. “His promises are as worthless as a degree from Trump University. He’s playing the American public for suckers: He gets a free ride to the White House and all we get is a lousy hat.”

The former Massachusetts governor and 2012 presidential candidate, who considered making a third run in 2016, will argue that Mr. Trump’s economic policies would create another recession and that he is not suited to represent America on the global stage.

“Donald Trump says he admires Vladimir Putin, while has called George W. Bush a liar,” Mr. Romney will say. “That is a twisted example of evil trumping good.”

Needless to say, Trump and his supporters are not taking this lying down, noting how Romney welcomed Trumps endorsement four years ago:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/705352657234481152

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/705234524012224512

Bonus Question: Does this help or hurt Trump?

UPDATE:

Here’s the short version:

Here is the speech, in full:

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Romney (and the rest) has remained silent for seven years of Obama, but chooses to vent now against a Republican. Does the GOPe STILL not understand whence Trump came?

For those Cuckservatives looking for more cover while they vote democrat or some obscure third party it will hurt Trump, to the extent that those Cucks were ever going to vote for him if nominated.

For those with eyes to see and ears to hear, this is the clear and unmistakable sign that the establishment would rather see Hillary than a republican they didn’t hand pick. It shows that the elite of both parties are closer to each other than to their base. With those people who are sick of being lied to by the party, with those who are sick of collusion between the dirty Cucks and the filthy Dems, it will help Trump.

Romney chose to carry water for them in the hopes of a brokered convention they could shove down our throats. I hope his masters’ chains rest lightly on him and anyone who follows his lead.

    Well Said !!

    This leaves absolutely no question that Mr. Trump is THE ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT Candidate.

    The very popular with the base John McCain has chimed in to give props to Romney. Can the beloved Lindsey Graham be far behind? John Kasich has shown he is just an establishment tool by doing the same.

    If Cruz piles on the Romney suicide train it will clearly show Cruz is a TOOL OF THE ESTABLISHMENT. If Cruz does NOT jump to the defense of Mr. Trump in debate tonight against Romney then it will show Cruz is at least PART OF THE ESTABLISHMENT.

    Romney has guaranteed that the only thing discussed tonight will be what Romney said. Whatever Rubio and Cruz have to say about anything else will just disappear into thin air.

      Ragspierre in reply to Gary Britt. | March 3, 2016 at 12:38 pm

      Gaghdad Bob wants you and me to forget that Mr. Establishment sold out to the crony capitalists of BIG CORN in Iowa.

      He’ll do it in the future, just as I have predicted. It’s just who he is.

      A stinking, lying Collectivist thug and fraudster.

      Who is supported by stinking, lying Collectivist cultists. AND confused, angry people.

        Rags even now after two weeks of sustained attacks on Mr. Trump by the establishment because Mr. Trump (NOT Cruz) is the candidate they fear culminating with this ridiculous attack today by Romney and you are still pushing your LIES that Trump is part of the establishment.

        Ragspierre you are just a joke. BTW, nobody cares about corn.

        Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | March 3, 2016 at 1:07 pm

        Yeah, I remembered when you TRIED that lying meme about “nobody cares about…” BEFORE Cruz won Iowa.

        And it became apparent that LOTS of us care about Der Donald’s sell-out in hopes of garnering a few pitiful crony capitalist votes from the ESTABLISHMENT he is historically part of.

        You are a lying apologist for a stinking, lying Collectivist. You know it. And you actually work at it.

        That’s disgusting.

      There is absolutely nothing anti-establishment about the Rev. DJ Trumph of the Church of Eminent Domain and brother to Hillary Clinton.

      He has bought and paid for establisment street cred all along.

      Who really cares what the mopes in Washington or Trumphville do?

    Valerie in reply to forksdad. | March 3, 2016 at 1:22 pm

    Nothing says “Democrat” quite so effectively as somebody who uses the word “cuckservative.”

    Truly a dead giveaway.

      riverlife_callie in reply to Valerie. | March 3, 2016 at 2:31 pm

      You beat me to it, Valerie. LOL

      forksdad in reply to Valerie. | March 3, 2016 at 4:27 pm

      Hit a little too close to home for you there? Can you point to where I wrote I would ever support a democrat?

      Fact is I’m a Republican. I have no idea who you are or support. I knew Romney was a left republican, we used to have those in the party. I didn’t know he was a stab you in the back snake. Now I know.

      Why in the world would a Dem like the word Cuck? It’s a pejorative used by Republicans for traitors in our party. Guys like Rubio and now Romney. Guys who will stand with you as long as it’s to their advantage or so they can stick the knife in when the time to turn their coat comes.

      Cuckservatives have sold us out for years promising to be faithful then joining the Gang of Eight. Promising to fight the good fight then folding like cheap suits. Did the GOPe fight for the TEA party when Obama sicced the IRS on them?

      A cuck isn’t even lukewarm to be spit out of our mouths. They are actively evil republican elite. Worse than the dems because they pretend to be on our side.

      Cuckservative. Get used to the word because you’re going to see much more of that activity by the GOPe before the end of this election cycle.

    riverlife_callie in reply to forksdad. | March 3, 2016 at 2:30 pm

    I always make it a point to ignore any statement that comes after the word “cuckservative.”

The problem with Romney delivering the message of Trump being a fraud is that Romney is a loser. One of the biggest reasons he lost was Obamacare. The ACA was based on a state law that Romney supported.
I’m not a Trump fan. I think Romney is right in that Trump is a fraud but the GOP establishment has been so bad at defending conservative views that they’re just as much of a fraud.

    forksdad in reply to tkc882. | March 3, 2016 at 11:45 am

    It is clear now the establishment never held conservative views. They only conserve liberal victories. The establishment wants a collectivist, globalist future just like the Dems.

    That Romney wants to be part of this makes me sick. I voted for him. I am a friend of his extended family. They told me he was an honest and trustworthy man. He should be wearing his jacket inside out while making this slimy speech.

    janitor in reply to tkc882. | March 3, 2016 at 12:47 pm

    The only fraud here is Romney. He was happy to solicit and accept big money from Trump in 2012 and praise him to the skies.

    I’ll post the URL again to the Romney’s speech that was edited out of the first video you posted above.

    Romney has different views of Trump in 2012:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlD4hwzGhdY

    Will it help or hurt Trump? I suspect neither in any significant way. Most of those who like Romney already are anti-conservative and pro-GOPe. Anyone who doesn’t know where they stand on the candidates at this point isn’t particularly interested.

    Here’s a more important question: Why is what Romney has to say considered so important that this speech and the excited prequel have been all over the media for days?

      persecutor in reply to janitor. | March 3, 2016 at 3:09 pm

      Only the LSM are making anything out of this. Mittens was a crap sandwich we were chided into supporting, but for many (including myself) he was the last crap sandwich we intend to eat.
      That is what the GOPe doesn’t seem to understand–their perfidy made this all possible and inevitable; I am not a sTrumpet and have serious doubts whether I can support him in November due to his scorched earth policy, but I do know that any puppet of the GOPe will not get my vote no matter how loud the hectoring gets here or on other sites.
      Until he bows out or gets the nod and wins in November–Cruz ’16!

      gulfbreeze in reply to janitor. | March 3, 2016 at 4:29 pm

      “Why is what Romney has to say considered so important that this speech and the excited prequel have been all over the media for days?”

      Media needs eyeballs.
      Controversy attracts them.
      Controversy about Trump attracts even more of them.
      Don’t search for anything more complicated.

      If Romney had even small cojones, he’d put his name on the line and today endorse someone he thinks can beat Trump. If Romney had big cojones, he’d get in the game instead of hurling jeers from the sideline. Talk is cheap, and to Trump supporters Romney likely ends up sounding like the drunk guy bellowing in the stands hurling insults at the quarterback’s mother.

Pot..Kettle

No. Black Box … kettle.

Does this help or hurt Trump?

Help. No question.

The message — that Trump admires Putin and thinks G.W. Bush is a liar — will resonate with Democrats, which will get (some of) them voting “Republican”.

That the message is coming from perpetual waffler and loser Mitt Romney will resonate with some Republicans … and backfire spectacularly, causing them to support Trump.

#Fail.

Trump is a lifelong liberal. It is right that Republicans – even RINOS like Romney — should say so.

Excellent speech, logical and factual delivered in a responsible way. Mitt may have faults but criticism of this speech and the substance in it is unwarranted.

A Tweet that I feel is worthy to pass on:

If Trump is lucky, McCain will give a similar speech tomorrow. Will secure him the nomination for sure.

— Jedediah Bila (@JedediahBila) March 3, 2016

    McCain has already tweeted his support for Romney’s speech. Lindsey Graham can’t be far behind. Then Paul Ryan and McConnell.

    These IDIOTS have no flucking idea how much they are HATED by a majority of the base. They think people voted for them because they actually like them as opposed to having no damn choice about it.

    Shorter version of Romney. Trump and his followers are frauds and liars and John McCain was right when he called them wacko birds.

      Ragspierre in reply to Gary Britt. | March 3, 2016 at 1:10 pm

      Shorter version of Gaghdad Bob:

      I lie and put words in people’s mouths, and in support of the stinking, lying Collectivist I have a man-crush on.

    forksdad in reply to HandyGandy. | March 3, 2016 at 4:54 pm

    Tomorrow the GOPe will bring out Boenher. Another 10 points for Trump the day after we’ll get another then another and each time Trump will gain votes.

    My choice dropped out. I was leaning Cruz and will still vote for him if he’s selected but now I have to say I’ll vote Trump. Why? Because the GOPe fears him more than Hillary.

I’ve said there is no difference in the R and D parties for many years now.

The R party just pushed one of it’s losers out to prove it is true.

In one short screech, Romney heaped more condemnation on trump than he did in his entire election campaign against Obama. You know, the one he lost.

    JoAnne in reply to Barry. | March 3, 2016 at 1:01 pm

    Yes, exactly my thoughts. I am beyond angry – white-hot rage would describe my emotions right now.

buckeyeminuteman | March 3, 2016 at 12:40 pm

Trump endorses Romney > Romney embraces Trump > Trump attacks Romney > Romney distances himself from Trump

Looks like Trump started it all. Ted Cruz really is the guy everybody who despises Hillary should be voting for!

Does this help or hurt Trump?

It will help. The voters know who Romney is, a failed GOPe insider that could not beat the worst president in history.

Hurt Trump? Are you kidding? Have you tried to have an intelligent conversation with a Trump supporter? (I love the ones who hate Cruz because Cruz is a ‘liar’ then I point out all the times that Trump has lied . . .)

I’ve been saying for months that Trump is the only candidate ever who could be found in bed with a dead girl or a live boy, and it would not matter . . .

    buckeyeminuteman in reply to Redneck Law. | March 3, 2016 at 2:04 pm

    I met a Trump supporter for the first time this past weekend and my suspicions were confirmed. Low education and low information. I mentioned that Trump supports Planned Parenthood and he he asked me where I heard that from. I said his own mouth at the debate last week. The Trump supporter then responded he has never watched the debates.

Trotting out a loser to comment on the current leader will just make that leader stronger. The GOP establishment has done nothing except cave to the present WH occupant and the more they try to get rid of Trump, the more the voters will use Trump to crush what is left of the party.

the Republican establishment is now turning once again to the Adlai Stevenson of the GOP – Willard Mitt Romney.

Perhaps nothing is more symptomatic of the GOP establishment’s death drive than their continued embrace of the presidential aspirations of a man who shrank the party in 2012.

But then, these are the same Republican elites who are determined to grant amnesty to 40 million future Democrats. So, obviously party expansion and broad national victories are not their priorities. How else do you explain their bizarre desire to board the S.S. Mittanic one more time?

A full recounting of the unmitigated disaster that was the Romney campaign is beyond the scope of this op-ed. But let’s cut to the chase. Mitt Romney lost because he was unpalatable to working class Americans.

Sean Trende of RealClearPolitics explained in detail how Romney lost the election in large part because he couldn’t win over white working class voters.

….

The commentariat is frantically hash-tagging #NeverTrump! Can you blame them? They built an industry predicated on their status as the self-appointed gatekeepers of authentic conservative thought. A populist paradigm shift upends their carefully crafted business model.

So, now the establishment will lift up their eyes unto the hills of Salt Lake City from whence cometh their help. And it looks as if Mount Romney is the hill they’ve chosen to die on.

….

But the real business of Bain [Romney’s] was private equity. They made a killing for their shareholders by buying out American companies, loading them with debt, bankrupting them, shuttering their factories, and shipping those jobs overseas. Unfortunately for the GOP establishment, the American electorate isn’t comprised of libertarian think tank pencil necks who worship at the Church of Ayn Rand.

If the demonization of Bain Capital wasn’t enough to finish Romney off in the eyes of working class voters, his “47 percent” comment did the trick. When you trash half of the electorate – a group that includes senior citizens living on fixed incomes, active duty military, and blue-collar Reagan Democrats – as freeloaders who don’t contribute to the country, that isn’t just bad retail politics, that’s downright offensive.

After slinking away in defeat four years ago, Romney is back again as the establishment’s St. George to slay the Trump dragon. But here’s the problem: While Romney shrank the GOP, Trump is expanding it. The primary race this year has blown out 2012 numbers. In three states alone, the Associated Press reports a massive voter increase of “386 percent in Virginia, 261 percent in Arkansas, 154 percent in Tennessee” from what it was just four years ago for Romney.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/03/mittens-gop-establishment-chooses-mount-romney-as-hill-to-die-on/

    Ragspierre in reply to Gary Britt. | March 3, 2016 at 1:16 pm

    “But the real business of Bain [Romney’s] was private equity. They made a killing for their shareholders by buying out American companies, loading them with debt, bankrupting them, shuttering their factories, and shipping those jobs overseas. Unfortunately for the GOP establishment, the American electorate isn’t comprised of libertarian think tank pencil necks who worship at the Church of Ayn Rand.”

    This, of course, is a flucking set of black lies.

    Which Gaghdad Bob slavishly republishes. Because he’s a lying SOS (sack of sophistry, for the delicate, but he knows what he is).

      Barry in reply to Ragspierre. | March 3, 2016 at 2:01 pm

      With Newt Gingrich accusing Mitt Romney this week of “bankrupting companies” during his time at Bain Capital, Romney’s wildly lucrative business career continues to draw fire from opponents who seek to paint him as a heartless financier.

      So did Romney wreck companies as Gingrich says he did?

      Under Romney’s leadership at Bain, which spanned from 1984 to 1990 and from 1992 to 1999, at least five companies eventually filed for bankruptcy after being acquired by the private equity firm.

      http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3404586/posts

        gulfbreeze in reply to Barry. | March 4, 2016 at 2:45 am

        “So did Romney wreck companies as Gingrich says he did?”

        It’s as bad or worse than Gingrich said.

        I challenge one to read this exhaustive examination of Romney’s work at Bain and conclude that he did nothing more than take advantage of Wall Streets affection for leveraged buyout (LBO) deals during his era there. Great timing on Wall St. is nothing to dismiss. But great timing doesn’t translate to Romney knowing how to build businesses.

        I wish there was enough digital ink to repost the entire article (drawn from David Stockman’s own research and writings), but I’ll leave this snip. Speaking of Romney, Stockman writes:

        http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/mitt-romney-is-the-real-super-fraud-heres-the-proof-chapter-and-verse/

        “Yes, the GOP establishment’s putative ‘jobs’ candidate from 2012 was never really a businessman at all. He was an LBO strip-mining artist who rode the first Greenspan Bubble to riches between 1987 and 2000. Yet in the overwhelming share of the 77 investment deals he superintended during that period, he left behind financial cripples, zombies and Chapter Eleven bait.
        ….
        “And that gets us to the plain scandal of Romney’s record at Bain Capital. It’s laid out chapter and verse below. But the net of it was itemized in a detailed expose by the Wall Street Journal prior to the last election. During Romney’s 16-year tenure as head of the Fund, Bain invested $1.1 billion in 77 deals and generated the aforementioned profits of $2.5 billion.

        “But as the WSJ analysis documents, nearly 90% of these deals produced meager returns. And the ten deals that resulted in big time gains—-and nearly 75% of the profits—- have virtually nothing to do with business acumen. Actually, they stunk to high heaven.

        “As indicated, the overwhelming bulk of the deals—67 out of 77—were no great shakes. These 67 companies ended up leveraged to the hilt, but the returns to Bain and its investors were actually lower than what a passive S&P 500 indexer would have earned even without the risk of leverage or paying all the private-equity fees.

        “Investor profits amounted to a prosaic 0.7X the original investment on these deals. Based on its average five-year holding period, the annual return would have computed to about 12 percent—well below the 17 percent average return on the S&P 500 during this record bull market period.

        “By contrast, 10 of the deals appeared to be home runs on the surface. They generated profits of $1.8 billion on investments of only $250 million, yielding a bountiful return of 7X the original investment.

        “Yet it is this handful of windfalls that both make the Romney investment legend and also seal the indictment. To wit, they show that Bain Capital was a vehicle for leveraged speculation that was gifted immeasurably by the Greenspan bubble. It was a fortunate place where leverage got lucky, not a higher form of capitalist endeavor or training school for presidential aspirants.

        “The lucky part—or perhaps slimy would be a more accurate term—– was especially evident in four of the ten ‘winner deals’. Bain pulled profits of $600 million from them, but no sooner were the LBO boys from Boston out of Dodge City than these companies filed for bankruptcy.”

    Ragspierre in reply to Gary Britt. | March 3, 2016 at 1:29 pm

    “So, now the establishment will lift up their eyes unto the hills of Salt Lake City from whence cometh their help. And it looks as if Mount Romney is the hill they’ve chosen to die on.”

    This is a STUPID dog-whistle to anti-Mormon bigots.

    Salt Lake City is the headquarters of the LDS church, and the quoted portion of that bullshit is intentionally couched in religious language.

      Curle in reply to Ragspierre. | March 3, 2016 at 5:34 pm

      Most discrimination is healthy and the opposite of bad. If you don’t discriminate, you don’t have standards and you aren’t performing your obligation to your fellow citizens.

      It is only in the most recent modern era, when con men have run rampant, that objecting to people who discriminate between true and false, good and bad has been denigrated.

      Mormonism, the 19th century version of Scientology, has been since its founding something well worth discriminating against something earlier generations of Christians understood without confusion. These American Christian forefathers understood their obligations to posterity and without hesitation spoke the truth about Mormonism in order to limit the spread of this plague of fraudulence promoted by the pedophile con-man Jos. Smith. The Christians of the past were unambiguous about what Mormonism was and was not just as sensible people of today are unambiguous about what Scientology is and isn’t.

      People of good will do nothing positive sitting by while a con and fraud is pulled on fellow citizens. The idea that people should be shamed from exposing a fraud is preposterous and the promotion of such pussillanimity one reason our society is collapsing.

      Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | March 3, 2016 at 5:47 pm

      Well, Curle, I’m glad that…in addition to showing you as a historical moron and truther…we’ve FLUSHED (I use the term advisedly) you out as ANOTHER religious bigot.

      Excellent self-indictment, to go with Bierhall Bullyboi Bigot Britt’s.

      Interesting the pieces of feces that support Der Donald.

    W0X0F in reply to Gary Britt. | March 3, 2016 at 1:32 pm

    Stop while you’re ahead. You obviously have no idea how private equity firms operate. Your insufferable Trump idolatry is bad enough, but quit showing your ass when it comes to money. In the real world saying so don’t make it so.

      Barry in reply to W0X0F. | March 3, 2016 at 2:03 pm

      With Newt Gingrich accusing Mitt Romney this week of “bankrupting companies” during his time at Bain Capital, Romney’s wildly lucrative business career continues to draw fire from opponents who seek to paint him as a heartless financier.

      So did Romney wreck companies as Gingrich says he did?

      Under Romney’s leadership at Bain, which spanned from 1984 to 1990 and from 1992 to 1999, at least five companies eventually filed for bankruptcy after being acquired by the private equity firm.

      http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3404586/posts

      Anyone capable of reading can find out “how they operate”.

        Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | March 3, 2016 at 2:08 pm

        “So did Romney wreck companies as Gingrich says he did? ”

        No. In fact, sometimes bankruptcy is a necessary process in SAVING a company, ya moron. That’s ONE great big reason the process exists.

        Newtie called Der Donald “articulate” yesterday, too. Had me rolling on the floor.

        Another reputation burned down on the bonfire of the Trumperties.

        riverlife_callie in reply to Barry. | March 3, 2016 at 2:37 pm

        Hey, Barry, I thought you loved bankruptcies. Or is it only Trump’s bankruptcies that are acceptable?

          Perhaps you would like to back up your statement?

          Or maybe, you just make shit up like the rest of the TDS sufferers?

          riverlife_callie in reply to riverlife_callie. | March 3, 2016 at 4:03 pm

          Do you or do you not think that Trump’s bankruptcies were OK? And if so, why are they different?

          I’ll be glad to answer that right after you admit you made your comment in error, knowing nothing about what I think regarding trump and the bankruptcies.

          riverlife_callie in reply to riverlife_callie. | March 3, 2016 at 4:42 pm

          I made an assumption based on your support for everything Trump. Thanks for the non-response, though.

          “I made an assumption based on your support for everything Trump.”

          You cannot support that comment either.

          Why do you expect any response when you make false accusations, other than to point out your false accusations.

          You do know what assume means, don’t you?

        W0X0F in reply to Barry. | March 3, 2016 at 3:04 pm

        “Anyone capable of reading can find out “how they operate”.”

        Yes and no. It really depends on who’s doing the writing. A great deal of “education” these days is coming from folks who are using source material that is iffy at best. Getting your information from incomplete source material tends to leave you a bit more ignorant than you started. It isn’t just private equity. An electrician will tell you most people only have a half-assed idea of what they do.

        Gingrich might be a credible source for history in general and American political history in particular, but you might want a better source for matters of corporate finance.

          Barry in reply to W0X0F. | March 3, 2016 at 3:55 pm

          “…but you might want a better source for matters of corporate finance.”

          No problem, there are lots of financial types surrounding me.
          You’ll find a lot of variation in their opinion of the use of bankruptcy by venture capitalists. I’ve seen the use of it up close when factories in the South were getting burned down by these folks in the late 80’s and 90’s. Not so easy to dissect each case. But one thing is clear, the venture capitalists did not care about the destruction in their wake. Legal, yes. Moral, in some case the companies could not survive, so yes. There are other case that were just downright mean.

          I point out Gingrich’s comment for one reason, all you TDS sufferers were all about the terrible Trump bankruptcies, but now that your boy Mittens is back out on stage to make a fool of himself, they are just fine.

          Cry me a river, your all hypocrites.

          Ragspierre in reply to W0X0F. | March 3, 2016 at 4:06 pm

          Just a butt load of generalized, apocryphal bullshit citing to anecdotal nothings.

          Venture capitalists are often heroes, and some are bad.

          Bankruptcies are often life-savers for everyone…EVERYONE…involved. Some are corrupt. Look into the T-rump bankruptcies for an example of the latter.

          Barry in reply to W0X0F. | March 3, 2016 at 4:13 pm

          “Venture capitalists are often heroes, and some are bad.”

          You’re just repeating what I said, using different wording.

          POS

          gulfbreeze in reply to W0X0F. | March 4, 2016 at 3:34 am

          Are David Stockman’s credentials good enough for you?

          From his website:
          “He then became Director of the Office of Management and Budget under President Ronald Reagan, serving from 1981 until August 1985. Stockman was the youngest cabinet member in the 20th century.
          ….
          “After leaving government, Stockman joined Wall Street investment bank Salomon Bros. He later became one of the original partners at New York-based private equity firm, The Blackstone Group. Stockman left Blackstone in 1999 to start his own private equity fund based in Greenwich, Connecticut.”

          Stockman’s writings below go much, much deeper into Romney’s and Bain’s legacy. But just read just this snip, or better just 20% of Stockman’s article below, and see if you can conclude that Romney did nothing more than take advantage of Wall Streets affection for leveraged buyout (LBO) deals during his era there.

          http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/mitt-romney-is-the-real-super-fraud-heres-the-proof-chapter-and-verse/

          “And that gets us to the plain scandal of Romney’s record at Bain Capital. It’s laid out chapter and verse below. But the net of it was itemized in a detailed expose by the Wall Street Journal prior to the last election. During Romney’s 16-year tenure as head of the Fund, Bain invested $1.1 billion in 77 deals and generated the aforementioned profits of $2.5 billion.

          “But as the WSJ analysis documents, nearly 90% of these deals produced meager returns. And the ten deals that resulted in big time gains—-and nearly 75% of the profits—- have virtually nothing to do with business acumen. Actually, they stunk to high heaven.

          “As indicated, the overwhelming bulk of the deals—67 out of 77—were no great shakes. These 67 companies ended up leveraged to the hilt, but the returns to Bain and its investors were actually lower than what a passive S&P 500 indexer would have earned even without the risk of leverage or paying all the private-equity fees.

          “Investor profits amounted to a prosaic 0.7X the original investment on these deals. Based on its average five-year holding period, the annual return would have computed to about 12 percent—well below the 17 percent average return on the S&P 500 during this record bull market period.”

    So Ragspierre and the other defenders of the ESTABLISHMENT chime in to defend the LOSER Romney.

    How dare this author from Brietbart point out the truth about the Romney Vulture capitalists that raided companies, loaded them up with debt, shut down their factories and shipped USA jobs overseas all for great fun and profit on the backs of the middle class.

    Romney the elitist of the establisment Mr. 47% won’t vote for me. Hey news flash THEY ARE VOTING FOR TRUMP !!!!

    In 2012 what were his big claims to fame his big job producing efforts that he touted everywhere?

    They were

    Sports Authority – NOW IN BANKRUPTCY

    Office Depot – Almost in bankruptcy

    So 50% of Romney’s big claims to fame WENT BANKRUPT !!!!

    Didn’t Romney just say bankruptcy was bad !!! Are his people at Sports Authority now FRAUDS for filing for bankruptcy !!!

    I’m afraid Trump and his supporters understand money and business just fine. You W0X0F are the one who is lost and over your head.

      Ragspierre in reply to Gary Britt. | March 3, 2016 at 2:21 pm

      You’re a lying liar who will tell any lie, AND an economic moron, as I’ve demonstrated repeatedly.

      WHEN was Bain involved with the companies you name? THIS decade?

      Bain was an ORIGINAL investor in Sports Authority, you lying SOS.

      Office Depot…??? Bain had no involvement with that business, you lying SOS.

      STAPLES enjoyed Bain capital as part of its original financing.

      You ARE a lying MORON!

        Is Sports Authority now in BANKRUPTCY ! Yes or no Ragsy. Its in Bankruptcy. Another Romney FRAUD.

          Ragspierre in reply to Gary Britt. | March 3, 2016 at 2:35 pm

          What does that have to do with Bain, lying liar who lies?

          You HAVE heard of cause >>>> effect relationships, you lying moronic SOS.

          Yes or no.

          Cause: Romney and his business geniuses from Bain FINANCE Sports Authority and put Romney’s people and business policies in place at Sports Authority.

          Effect: Sports Authority goes BANKRUPT, thousands of small businesses are screwed, many put out of business, thousands of people screwed out of jobs and owed money and benefits.

          Yeah I know cause and effect. Romney is the cause and OBAMA’S SECOND TERM WAS THE EFFECT.

          Ragspierre in reply to Gary Britt. | March 3, 2016 at 3:19 pm

          “In January 2006, Sports Authority agreed to be purchased in a leveraged buyout by affiliates of Leonard Green & Partners, a private equity investment firm, in a transaction valued at $1.4 billion. Shareholders approved the deal in May 2006. Upon completion of the merger, Sports Authority ceased to be a publicly listed stock. The subordinated financing for the deal was a private mezzanine loan from TCW/Crescent Mezzanine LLC. Thus, no public bonds are outstanding and Sports Authority no longer files financial statements with the SEC.”

          This is a thing those of us who actually practice law call “an intervening cause”, you stupid, lying, IGNORANT…did I say lying?…SOS.

          So what you are saying is that Romney and his co-Frausters at Bain, financed the start up of Sports Authority then phonied up its results and suckered some other company into buying them out for huge profits. THEN the company goes bankrupt.

          Suckering somebody or everybody for huge profits IS THE BUSINESS MODEL OF VULTURE CAPITALISTS LIKE MORMAN MITTENS.

          Ragspierre in reply to Gary Britt. | March 3, 2016 at 4:22 pm

          That’s the Bierhall Bullyboi Bigot, rat thar.

          Love it when you let the mask slip and you come out in full-tilt hater mode…!!!

        Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | March 3, 2016 at 2:55 pm

        Well, we can all see your lying lies, liar.

        Now, put up some CREDIBLE links to business analysts who support any of that mythology you just pulled out of your well-lubed ass.

        Now.

        Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | March 3, 2016 at 3:01 pm

        “Yeah I know cause and effect. Romney is the cause and OBAMA’S SECOND TERM WAS THE EFFECT.”

        In the pantheon of your character assassinating LIES, that one is at least arguable. More honest and much more intelligent and better informed people might suggest the weakness of the Romney campaign was ONE cause, among many, but hey…

        The other ones you’ve published today are just stinking, filthy, character assassination in the sucking of your man-crush.

Common Sense | March 3, 2016 at 1:08 pm

# FAIL Mitt Romney

Latest Poll….. Trump up 10 points after stupid Romney speech!
THE RNC does not get it?? Will they ever?

I’m surprised to see Romney wallow in this level of sleazy politics. Sure, he’s a loser; sure, he’s just another Democrat Lite; nevertheless, I thought that personally he was classier than this.

I’m saying nothing about the message itself; what surprises me is that Romney is the one saying it.

Are we sure it’s Mitt, and not some kind of Pod Person which just looks like Mitt?

It helps Trump. Romney lost. Trump can capitalize on that endlessly. Romney is preaching to the choir, he’s not changing anyone’s mind.

In the last 72 hours, the GOPe has decided to go all out thermonuclear war on Trump. In doing so they have inflicted severe collateral damage on themselves. Not to mention all the money they poured down a hiole trying to stop him.

This speech just shows how thoroughly they are devoted to taking down Trump. When has a major political figure ever given a speech about the state of a presidential race? When has the press given it much attention?

I’m now convinced that the GOPe will not stop at anything. If they had to go back in time to the cold war and press the button launching the missles and destroying the world, just to stop Trump. they would.

I’ve seen the gleam in Bill Kristol’s eye and Ben Ginsberg’s eye when they talk about rigging the convention. I’m sure, I’m sure now they will try to rig the convention. If they succeed the resulting damage to the GOP will make the damage the 1968 convention did to the Dems look like a paper cut.

I come to this site because I appreciate the in-depth information that Jacobson so often provides. On occasion, a commenter on various blogs will mention globalism, but it never becomes a subject of in-depth exploration anywhere that I can find. Nevertheless, I don’t believe we will ever truly understand what’s going on in our elections or anything else to do with our government until NWO is openly discussed with the American people.

Personally, I think international cooperation and agreements are a good thing, but I also think the UN/globalist crowd is becoming increasingly authoritarian and intrusive and am beginning to find their entire program of “world order” questionable.

I am not qualified or equipped to delve into the nitty-gritty of all this, but what I do know with certainty is that Obama has not been an American president but a fullblown mouthpiece for the UN, and everytime he’s gotten into trouble the Clintons have gone onstage to prop him up because that’s who they are, too. Now I wonder about the priorities of the republican party. Do any of you have insights into this subject?

Although a bit tough to appreciate in isolation, it’s clearer if evaluated as a gambit—a risky or sacrificial move opening an attack.

Postulate that the GOPe wants these presidents, in preferential order:

1. Jeb
2. Rubio
3. Hillary (not an R, but at least to them she’s “One Of Us”)

And, of the current lineup, that’s it.

Further, they will do anything to prevent these as presidents:

Trump
Cruz
Bernie the Red

Choice (1), Jeb, is no longer available; choice (2), Rubio, is looking very slim. Choice (3), Hillary, is attainable if they throw or hobble the Republican campaign, allowing an easy Dem win. And who would the candidate be? It looks like they’re dipping a toe in the water with Mitt.

And how might they nobble the campaign? A third party run might be good; it would split the R vote just as well as it did in 1912 and 1992. It doesn’t have to be a real third party; a fake one will do.

Is this a good plan for the GOPe? It keeps them out of the White House; but it leaves them intact. Playing perpetual Second Banana to the Dems is better for the GOPe than the risk of being dispersed and destroyed by a president who isn’t under the party’s tight control. Trump, Bernie, and (probably) Cruz are all hard to control. Of those three, Trump is likely to be by far the most effective, making him the most dangerous. Cruz and Sanders are more likely to be stymied in whatever they try to do—by filibusters, lawsuits, strikes, bureaucratic foot-dragging, and propaganda attacks from the press. Trump is the one who must be stopped before being elected.

    Eskyman in reply to Viator. | March 3, 2016 at 4:59 pm

    Excellent video, thanks for that!

    TDS sufferers should avoid it, it’s Donald Trump being consistent. Makes it hard to maintain your narrative!

    Ragspierre in reply to Viator. | March 3, 2016 at 5:14 pm

    I watched it up ’til it started that bullshit about Smoot-Hawley.

    Conservative economists pretty much agree that “THe Great Depression” was MADE “GREAT” largely in part by the idiot protectionism of the FDR era.

    So, if you LIKE COMMAND economies, T-rump is YOUR guy.

    Leave me the FLUCK alone.

Is Mitt still holding onto the fantasy that he’s going to be the nominee at a brokered convention?

If the RNC isn’t careful, they’re going to wake up in 8 months and find they have no party left.

Should Trump challenge Romney to duel like Hamilton?

I am Cruz supporter and this crap makes me want to blow up the GOPe more than ever. I will vote for Trump for the nomination if Cruz drops out and I will vote for Trump if he wins the nomination. And, here in NY23, it appears we’ll have a long-shot candidate to primary our very own GOPe Congressman, Tom Reed. Gotta go get some petitions to get the insurgent on the ballot.

LOL,

Trump says Mittens wanted to run again in 2016 but he didn’t because he was AFRAID OF JEB!

Totally destroys Romney with one line !!!

    HandyGandy in reply to Gary Britt. | March 3, 2016 at 2:40 pm

    I liked the part about Romney going to his knees.

    No. I’m not watching the rally. I’m listening to Rush, boy the callers are really trashing Romney. In fact, Rush just asked Snerdley if there were any callers that supported Romney and his reply was no.

      Yep the crowd loved that one also.

      Romney begging for Trump’s endorsement in 2012. Begging so hard Trump could have told him get on your knees and he would have done that.

Trumps response FANTASTIC !!!! Very Presidential !!

Destroys Mittens.

Does this help or hurt Trump?

With the small percentage of diehard “tear it down” nuts who could care less what happens to the country as long as they get to feel as though they get their revenge on anyone for their perceived victimhood? They are already voting Trump anyway with all the Dems who cant wait for Hillary to run against Trump. Zero effect either way with them (although, boy are their heads exploding right now all over social media)

…with everyone else though? It helps. Bigtime. Trump, his surrogates and cultists are proving Romney right, first off – they are avoiding he issues he raised like the plague and instead attacking the messenger (as usual.) They seem deadset on proving they are not part of a political movement and instead a demonic mob. On the fence voters will notice

But the much more important part is it was a signal to the donors and establishment minded people to start backing Cruz when and where they can. (This signal can also be seen in the Lindsay comments from a day or two ago)

Already Cruz is adding 8 top Bush guys to his finance team. Rubio also pulled out of scheduled events in Kentucky and Louisiana, where his schedule instead shows he will avoid those two states and apparently allow Cruz the opportunity to take them.

I believe we are watching the (reluctant) coalescing of the entire party around Cruz at the moment, with the establishment doing what they can to sure up some spots where he might be vulnerable and give him a path.

Trump, for all his endless bluster, has the support of only about 1/4 of the Republican voters so far – this despite his 100% name-ID and endless Media praise & attention. Trump has also not been able to win a single closed primary outside the corrupt nonsense in Vegas where he employees so many (relatively speaking.) Trump specifically even under performed by 15% in Oklahoma, the first huge such closed state. He can win unless Hillary voters hoping Trump is the nominee get to vote for him. Then, what type of numbers has he been seeing in closed primaries? About 25%, not surprisingly

So the establishment knows Rubio supporters, if he were to withdraw, would go huge for Cruz. Cruz supporters would largely split, however, either voting Trump or staying home because they can not go for GangOf8 Rubio. Watch for the party to come together behind Cruz and try to clear a path for him to put this childish snake-oil salesman out to pastor over the next month.

That, I believe, is what Romney was signaling today. And that will be a massive change seen over the near future

    Ragspierre in reply to StotheOB. | March 3, 2016 at 3:09 pm

    “…come together behind Cruz and try to clear a path for him to put this childish snake-oil salesman out to pastor…”

    Oh, GAWD…PLEASE not THAT…!!!

    The First Church Of The Devine T-rump?!?!? No! Please!!!

    It’s one of the few scams he has NOT tried to date…

      StotheOB in reply to Ragspierre. | March 3, 2016 at 3:26 pm

      Lol. Good catch man.

      That was obviously an auto-correct fail. Please substitute in “pasture”

      …but no kidding, right? I too am kind of shocked he hasnt tried to create Trump Disciples or something to get in on the religious action. Hes desperately tried (and generally failed) at everything else!

      And lets not kid ourselves, he obviously thinks he is the greatest man to ever walk the planet (yes, even more so than Jesus. See, Jesus proved he was so weak when had to beg for forgiveness! Trump? Nope, hes the true perfect fallible one who never needs repent for absolutely anything in life – according to himself, at least…)

    HandyGandy in reply to StotheOB. | March 3, 2016 at 3:36 pm

    Already Cruz is adding 8 top Bush guys to his finance team.

    8 Bush guys. Hmm. Let’s hope he can add Susan Estrich that will seal the deal.

      Ragspierre in reply to HandyGandy. | March 3, 2016 at 3:41 pm

      You know that Der Donald was a client of Roy Cohn, mob lawyer, right, T-rump sucker?

        Barry in reply to Ragspierre. | March 3, 2016 at 4:03 pm

        Some of us think you’re all mob lawyers…

        except for the professor.

        And my brother in law (2),
        and my daughter in law.

        🙂

        Barry in reply to Ragspierre. | March 3, 2016 at 4:05 pm

        Another case of ragspisser deflection:

        Cruz adding Bush guys, rags reponse – but the Donald had a mob lawyer.

        Wah.

          Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | March 3, 2016 at 4:11 pm

          Guilt by association, you lying POS.

          If you wanna play that game, bring it. People hire professionals. Including T-rump.

          Barry in reply to Barry. | March 3, 2016 at 4:17 pm

          Deflection, you lying POS.

          I could care less who Cruz hires.

          The telling thing is why he has to hire a bunch of new financial guys. Hint, he’s running out of money.

          Just the facts.

          Barry in reply to Barry. | March 3, 2016 at 4:22 pm

          “You know that Der Donald was a client of Roy Cohn, mob lawyer, right, T-rump sucker?”

          And you use the cry of “guilt by association”.

          LOL

          Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | March 3, 2016 at 4:25 pm

          But I was responding to HandyJoby. Not your lying POS ass.

          Put up some links showing that Cruz is “running out of money”, POS.

          Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | March 3, 2016 at 4:26 pm

          And you use the cry of “guilt by association”.

          Really, Butt-hurt Barri, you USED to at least be able to read.

          Barry in reply to Barry. | March 3, 2016 at 8:32 pm

          If you insist:

          http://dcwhispers.com/cruz-campaign-running-out-of-cash/

          Try not to cry, millions spent to get <50% in Texas.

          Maybe I'll have to send another donation. I'm on the list.

          "The big five on March 15 include the take-all Florida, Illinois, Missouri, North Carolina, and Ohio.

          Donald Trump currently leads in all five states, and has double-digit leads in four of those five states."

          Barry in reply to Barry. | March 3, 2016 at 11:50 pm

          “Really, Butt-hurt Barri, you USED to at least be able to read.”

          OK, I’ll give you that one. Went right over my head.

    W0X0F in reply to StotheOB. | March 3, 2016 at 3:57 pm

    Romney is GOPe to the bone and he was undoubtably speaking for the GOPe, but what he said is factually correct. Folks can question his motivation. Less so the content.

      Wrong. Very very little and NONE of the intent and implication was factually correct. It was almost entirely fact free name calling and slime by innuendo while claiming absolutely no factual basis for the slime by innuendo.

      It was cheap slime delivered by a loser stiff, who wanted to run for President again but was too much of a COWARD to battle the likes of JEB!

      No wonder he lost so badly and ran such a horrible campaign in 2012.

        Ragspierre in reply to Gary Britt. | March 3, 2016 at 4:14 pm

        “It was cheap slime delivered by a loser stiff…”

        Bierhall Bullyboi Britt is again attacked by the self-parody monster and left for dead.

    Cruz is part of the establishment and supports things like Obamatrade and will sell us out on amnesty and the border so why wouldn’t the establisment in the party come together to support him. Cruz is on the dole from goldman sachs and lots of the open borders mega donors. He’s bought and paid for just like all the rest.

      Ragspierre in reply to Gary Britt. | March 3, 2016 at 4:16 pm

      Another of Britt’s patented drive-by slime sprays.

      He’ll tell any lie in the slobbering, servile sucking of his man-crush.

      He is a hiss and a by-word here.

      And disgusting to anyone worthy of the term “citizen”.

IMO, Romney’s speech won’t affect Trump fans in the least. If it’s not obvious by now, Trump fans don’t care about any such criticism of Trump. If anything, Romney has just validated their beliefs about the GOPe.

If anything, for Trump fans Romney’s speech will confirm that Trump must really be a threat to the GOPe they hate to much if people like Romney are this panicked about Trump winning the GOP nomination.

MittCarthyism: Romney Disgraces Himself With Dishonest Attack On Trump

On behalf of the Republican Establishment that has lost the popular vote in 5 of the last 6 presidential elections, the man who Candy Crowley turned into a quivering puddle of loser, stood before the cameras late-Thursday morning to hurl naked McCarthyism at Republican frontrunner Donald Trump. It’s fine to attack Trump, or anyone, on substance and legitimate differences of opinion and style, but this was pure MittCarthyism:

I predict that there are more bombshells in his tax returns. I predict that he doesn’t give much if anything to the disabled and to our veterans. I predict that he told the New York Times that his immigration talk is just that: talk.

Forget the fact that Mitt Romney is showing more fight and spirit and willingness to go scorched earth against Trump than he ever did when America most needed him, in 2012.

Forget the fact that this last minute push to defeat Trump, that most analysts admit is impossible, is almost certainly just another Republican Establishment grift; another phony GOP fundraising scam that is going to fail, just like all the other phony GOP fundraising scams. (Hey Sucker: Help Us Stop ObamaCare! Again!)

What is beyond disgraceful, though, is Mitt Romney, a man who himself was a victim of these McCarthy-ite tactics, gleefully practicing the same against Trump. With no evidence, nothing to back up his accusations, the same Mitt Romney who lacked the nerve to prosecute Obama over Benghazi, demanded a fellow Republican prove he’s not a communist liar, thief, or felon.

With his ham-fisted lecture against Trump as a “phony” and “fraud,” Romney also called millions of Republican voters suckers for supporting a “con man.” Who are these freaks?

Even though he lost what should have been a lay-up against a failed president, Romney always struck me as a man of character, a weak man in many ways, but still a decent man. Today, though, Romney revealed himself as just another con man, another GOP demagogue terrified at the idea of an outsider upsetting the business-as-usual that made him filthy rich while the middle class treaded stagnant water.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/03/mittcarthyism-romney-disgraces-himself-with-dishonest-attack-on-trump/

    Ragspierre in reply to Gary Britt. | March 3, 2016 at 4:47 pm

    McCarthyism…a LEFTIST TERM, btw…

    Is aptly applied to the shit-pile who used it here to slime someone just because they spoke against the god of T-rump suckers.

    This is their MO.

    “There ARE no meritorious criticisms of our little yellow god, and you WILL be silenced, heretic…!!!”

    And Bierhall Bullyboi Bigot is JUST the ThoughtPoliceman to do it, too.

    Ragspierre in reply to Gary Britt. | March 3, 2016 at 5:05 pm

    “Today, though, Romney revealed himself as just another con man, another GOP demagogue terrified at the idea of an outsider upsetting the business-as-usual that made him filthy rich while the middle class treaded stagnant water.”

    Wow.

    Talk about your florid, fevered, over-the-top Collectivist propaganda…!!!

    Romney isn’t “filthy rich”, and he sure as hell earned every penny, CONTRA Der Donald, who really is a “business-as-usual crony capitalist.

    Read up on that if you doubt it.

    And WHO is a “demagogue”….???

    And WHO is the “con man”? See University, Trump.

I’m beginning to think Ragspierre isn’t a real person at all. I’m beginning to think he is just a rather low level AI engine that knows how to take a few words and string them together in varying orders.

Collectivist, fascist, demagogue, T-rump, crony capitalist, Mr. Establishment, liar, lies, lying POS, bierhall.

Just take these and string them together with some random verbs and adverbs and an occasional noun and bingo you have ALL OF RAGSPIERRE’S POSTS.

Mindless, fact free, no analysis, no thought, no rational, no persuasion.

Just static and wasted bandwidth. Like his legal briefs and motions I’m sure.

Hey Rags is it true you were once sanctioned for submitting a motion and law and argument brief in CRAYON ??

Curious minds want to know.

    Ragspierre in reply to Gary Britt. | March 3, 2016 at 5:34 pm

    “Curious minds want to know.”

    You might try to shop for one on Craig’s list, moron. Slim pickins’ in Austin, but you can TRY.

    IF you weren’t such an ignorant phuc, you’d know that history tells us many stories of effective legal instruments drafted in unconventional ways, too. I seem to recall a story by Johanson (King-Cat-Daddy of Texas trusts and wills, for your stupid self) about a valid will inscribed on a watermelon.

    What a stupid liar.

      So that’s a yes you sometimes do your briefs in CRAYON or are you just arguing in favor of legal briefs in CRAYON or are you saying you want to preserve your right to carve a client’s will into a watermelon??

      I’m not quite sure what you are saying.

      practicalconservative in reply to Ragspierre. | March 4, 2016 at 5:42 am

      In Thursday evenings Foxnews Debate, Senator Cruz pledged to support Donald Trump if he is the Republican Party nominee.

      Will you make the same pledge Mr. Ragspierre?

        I’ve found that whenever someone feels the need to modify “conservative” with something like “practical”, they are not the first.

        #NEVERTrump. Ever.

    A simply stellar speech – if you’re Boehner after 5 drinks.

    And just where ‘was’ this bozo during the 2012 election?

    If you remember, this is a guy who couldn’t handle Candy Crowley while she played the role of mommy to Obama during the debates.

    If you also, remember, Rommey’s approval rating when he left office in Mass. was 34%. He lost a run for the senate. He lost the easiest race in US history against an incumbent president. Whatever he does right in business, when it comes to politics, the man is a a bigger schumck than Boehner (who managed to stay in office and corrupt Congress for over 20 years.)

    Mittens, go away.

I was somewhat undecided on who I favored, but with the attack on Trump by the Republican establishment, especially with this lecture by Romney, I am going in for Trump. Rubio is an out and out liar and will only do what the establishment wants, which is not what the country desires. Cruz is ok, but I don’t think he can do the job. With Rubio’s true colors coming out, the powers will likely turn to Kasich. I would have considered him, but not after what the party did. I am really glad to have seen all of this as I now understand what caused the Civil War. With the implosion of the Democrat party of the time, there was not other way to secure liberty other than fighting against the rising power of DC. As we have seen, the loss by the South resulted in a huge power structure that has robbed us of any and all freedom and liberty.

    Not sure what you mean about the implosion of democrat party at time leading up to civil war. The democrat party was solidly pro-slavery.

    The other major party of the day, the Whig party, was trying to take a neutral stance on slavery and the grassroots of the whig party were strongly anti-slavery. Eventually, the grassroots of the whig party had enough and broke off to form the republican party as strongly anti-slavery. Within a few years the whig party ceased to exist and the two major parties were the democrats and the republicans. Democrats pro-slavery and republicans anti-slavery.

Oh, why didn’t Romney show such a back bone against Obama? He could have won against the worst president in history.

    rabidfox in reply to david7134. | March 3, 2016 at 8:54 pm

    “Could” have won? Let’s change that to “Should” have won. He gave up. Go home Mitt, you’ve proved your worth in the political sphere, which isn’t much.

Waiting for the sometimes-respectable Rags and the questionable GBritt to cool their jets. LI’s Comments section is going downhill fast with this stuff.

I think you called it.
That was about the nicest thing Romney could possibly have done for Trump.
All the Trump supporters pretty much have one thing in common:
Disdain for the institutional Republican Party.
Romney is the best possible messenger.

Imagine if Romney Endorsed him.
He would probably be better off with the KKK and Lindsey Graham.

PS
Romney just provoked every single Trump supporter, and this will drive even more over to the Trump ticket.
Romney, I guess, isn’t the best at strategy.

Listening to the speech again, one thing stuck me most of all: The GOPe is trying for a brokered convention. Romney recommended voting Rubio in Florida, Kasich in Ohio, and Cruz in states he seemed poised to win. Therefore, the goal is to split the delegates so that a brokered convention would be necessary. This is the goal of that speech.

    spartan in reply to Leslie Eastman. | March 3, 2016 at 8:26 pm

    I don’t know about that. I do know that a Romney endorsement to one candidate (I always thought it would have been Rubio) would be the kiss of death.
    I think strategically, this might be the only way (in Mitt’s mind) to stop Trump; until Kasich and/or Rubio drop out of the race. I think the goal is to have a 2 man race.
    I think the folks who would love a 2-man race are Cruz supporters. It would also mean the GOP Establishment would have to hold their nose and vote for Cruz. This is pretty interesting and hilarious on so many levels.

    We live in interesting times ……

      gulfbreeze in reply to spartan. | March 4, 2016 at 1:50 am

      “I do know that a Romney endorsement to one candidate (I always thought it would have been Rubio) would be the kiss of death.”

      Which is why Romney’s speech was telling. He doesn’t even have the nerve to endorse anyone, and put his own name on the line.

I haven’t commented anywhere in over.a year. I haven’t had anything to say.

Rodney’s speech has convinced me that Trump is the establishment’s candidate.

There is literally nothing anyone could have done to cement Trump as the choice of those against the establishment. Why would anyone have allowed Romney to wag his finger, as if at a naughty child, if the intended result was to dissuade support for Trump?

By his own bragging admission, Donald will be whoever he needs to be, and everything is negotiable. The only core principle Trump has consistently exhibited is self-aggrandizement.

The GOPe has tried and failed with the straight, hard sell: Jeb earned 4 delegates.
They have promoted Rubio to the position of cock-blocking Cruz, who cannot be bought.
And they have bought the candidate who was for sale: Trump.

This Romney speech was at a very odd time of day, wasn’t it? And it wrapped up promptly, right before Limbaugh went on the air. I can’t remember another time a major politican made a speech that started and ended on time. Just in time for the angry grassroots to savage it on the radio.

    rabidfox in reply to Scott Anderson. | March 3, 2016 at 8:57 pm

    It’s called the Party of Stupid for a reason. The commentator above is right, the GOPe wants a brokered convention which they expect to control.

Trump called Romney’s self-deportation plan too harsh. Now Trump claims he’s for wholesale, forcible deportation.

Ann Counter recently said that Romney was “by far the best candidate” in 2012 because of his position on immigration – a position that Trump thought was mean.

Now, Romney might as well be Satan in the view of all the other Trump fans who say that immigration is the only issue that matters.

That’s just one way that Trumpism is self-contradictory at its very core.

It is so shameful that an American Business Man could be such a Fraud and Con Man!!!!

http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/mitt-romney-is-the-real-super-fraud-heres-the-proof-chapter-and-verse/

Bitterlyclinging | March 4, 2016 at 11:26 am

Ainsley Earhardt remarked on F&F this AM that she wished this was the Mitt Romney we had heard in 2012.
Did the GOPe, in collusion with the Democratic Party, decide to throw the 2012 election to Obama?

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