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Flashback to 1964: Confessions of a Republican

Flashback to 1964: Confessions of a Republican

“If you unite behind a man you don’t believe in, it’s a lie”

This old campaign ad from the 1964 election hits a little too close to home. Made by LBJ’s campaign, a remorseful Republican wishes he would’ve attended and fought at the national convention.

The anonymous confessor lights a cigarette, leans back and says:

“Sometimes I wish I’d been at that convention in San Francisco. I mean, I wish I would’ve been a delegate, I really do, because I would’ve fought, you know? And I wouldn’t have worried so much about party unity because if you unite behind a man you don’t believe in, it’s a lie.

I tell you, those people who got control of that convention, who are they? I mean when the head of the Ku Klux Klan, when all these weird groups come out in favor of the candidate of my party, either they’re not Republicans or I’m not.

I’ve thought about not voting in this election, just staying home, but you can’t do that because that’s saying you don’t care who wins and I do care. I think my party made a bad mistake in San Francisco and I’m going to have to vote against that mistake in November.”

Freaky, right? [Insert adage about those not knowing history and history repeating itself]

The election of 1964 was particularly nasty. The Republican convention was chaotic but ultimately nominated Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater.

Goldwater was destroyed by LBJ in the general election.

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As I wrote in today’s edition of Morning Insurrection, I’m bored of the false choices and increasingly annoyed with the insistence that I must support _____ candidate or the republic will surely perish. I am not compelled to vote for any remaining candidate simply because they’ve managed to survive the island thus far. Votes are not entitlements, they must be earned.

I respect the opinions of many of my fellow bloggers who make well thought out cases for rallying behind candidate X, but I must dissent. I cannot stand Trump, and will under no circumstance vote for him now or ever — I’ve never been shy in admitting as much. Nor do I feel pressed into false choices that say I must support Cruz or we’re stuck with Hillary. These are not yet provable realities; they’re campaign gimmicks.

This whole cycle is far from over. There is no clear winner, not even Trump (who doesn’t win majorities). Like Professor Jacobson, I’m looking forward to the convention this year. It might be our last, best chance, or it might be 1964 all over again.

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If only Goldwater had won, we would have been spared that (fill in very vulgar Marine Corps language) LBJ and his moron McNamara.

    donb in reply to Old0311. | March 17, 2016 at 9:57 pm

    Oldster, I wasn’t old enough to vote in ’64, but (sadly) backed LBJ. It was the *last* time I supported a Democrat for president!

    Older friends (who were old enough to vote) have often told me:

    They told me that if I voted for Goldwater, we’d be at war in Viet Nam within a year.
    Well, sure enough, I voted for Goldwater and a year later we were at war in Viet Nam!

      JimMtnViewCaUSA in reply to donb. | March 17, 2016 at 10:50 pm

      My father was livid when I came home from elementary school and asked him not to vote for Goldwater because it would start a nuclear war.
      He felt, and I agree, that it was completely wrong for public school teachers to be choosing sides and advocating to kids. Certainly during class time.
      Come to think of it, the Dems are still pulling these sorts of shenanigans to indoctrinate our youth. Shameful that KKaye doesn’t have the background to understand what is going on, and draws the wrong conclusions. In my opinion, of course.

And so we got LBJ, arguably the worst president of the 20th century. We’re still paying for his legacy and will for a long time to come.
With luck hitlery will be indicted, the dems will take the nomination away from sanders and the dems will self implode.
I harbor no doubt who the enemy is that wants to destroy me.

    JimMtnViewCaUSA in reply to 4fun. | March 17, 2016 at 11:03 pm

    One thing LBJ said came true. I’ll be cautious and mangle the objectionable word. My Overton Window has not been opened that wide…yet.
    Speaking of using tax payer funds to buy votes for the Dem Party by creating an interest group, LBJ said:
    “I’ll have those n-gg-rs voting Democratic for the next 200 years.”

    And here we are today with BLM, Ferguson, Trayvon, permanent racial quotas … and countless blighted lives from the Dem educational establishment.

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/03/levin-how-lincoln-won-a-brokered-convention

He may have meant a “contested convention”, but it is a fascinating story.

Abraham Lincoln came out of a highly contentious convention…the second in the young life of the GOP. I didn’t know that story.

    RodFC in reply to Ragspierre. | March 17, 2016 at 8:48 pm

    You do realize that at the time there were no such things as primaries. That delegates were chosen by the party bosses in the states. that there were no particular choices for nominee going into the conventions. That every convention at the time was a defacto “brokered convention”.

    You are also aware that arguing for Cruz as a president who would follow the constitution, it is not a good idea to suggest he use approaches similar to Lincoln who among presidents, was the closest one to a dictator?

      Ragspierre in reply to RodFC. | March 17, 2016 at 10:00 pm

      You didn’t even listen, did you, you stupid phuc…???

        RodFC in reply to Ragspierre. | March 18, 2016 at 12:25 am

        No. I did not listen to Levine. I never listen to Levin. I prefer
        that my eardrums stay intact. That being said, I have read several transcripts of the talk, or at lest excerpts of a similar article written by Levin. As well as several discussions pro and con.

        I don’t buy it. I’ve already detailed my reasons above.

        As for the rest. I know this is a site that is lax in moderation, having been a lurker for several years. Still I can’t imagine “stupid phuc” is acceptable. Perhaps someone can point me to a place to complain about abuse?

          DaMav in reply to RodFC. | March 18, 2016 at 2:05 am

          Not only is Rabidpierre’s filthy mouth tolerated here, but you’ve got one of the regular writers, Fluffer Flippers squeeing all over him and saying she loves every post he makes. On the other hand the Professor is very good and there are some decent commenters to make up for the dreck.

      inspectorudy in reply to RodFC. | March 17, 2016 at 11:02 pm

      “Closest one to a dictator”. Uh, I think you forgot FDR and obama! FDR actually makes obama look like a Constitutionalist!

    JimMtnViewCaUSA in reply to Ragspierre. | March 17, 2016 at 10:56 pm

    Yeah, I don’t know the history in detail but the Whigs stopped listening to their voters and withered away. Meanwhile, a new Republican Party formed. One key plank was their loathing for slavery.
    I believe Lincoln was the first Repub to win the presidency. The Repub Party was still relatively new. The South seceded and then … well, we all know that part of the story.
    Politics was, indeed, different. Communications was far less powerful so individuals frequently made key decisions with less than full knowledge.

      Actually most people don’t know anything about the history of that period. The Left has rewritten it so thoroughly and their re-write has been taught so long that what we all learned in school is mostly crap.

Well KK trying to prove once agin that millenials are idiots?
let me tell you, as someone who went through most of it, what happened. Goldwater got beaten so badly yes, but his defeat planted seeds, Those seeds were the Reagan revolution.

Without the Goldwater loss we would never have had Reagan. Instead we would have had the sequence of R pres -> Nixon, Ford, probably Bush if he could get elected.

What is more, LBJ a very skilled politician himself, was riding the coattails of the magical “Camelot”. There is no saying any candidate would have done better.

I suggest that if you want to keep revising history to make it support your desires, you join the party that makes a habit of it–the Democrats.

    Mark in reply to RodFC. | March 17, 2016 at 9:31 pm

    If a movement conservative’s (Goldwater’s) defeat planted the seeds for a future conservative Reagan, then what do you think the defeat of a bloviating populist ignoramus plants for the future?

    Oh Joy.

    PS: By the way, Goldwater did not plant any seeds. Nixon, Ford, and Carter planted those seeds that led up to Reagan, as some of us remember. Ford’s failure and Carters disastrous four years left the country desperate to try a real conservative – in spite of (not because of) Goldwaters valiant but losing effort.

      Curle in reply to Mark. | March 17, 2016 at 11:08 pm

      “It might be our last, best chance, or it might be 1964 all over again.”

      Or we might actually elect the first candidate in years who bothers to listen to the people (Trump) and take out Hillary. Reagan was further behind Carter at this point in the ’80 race than Trump is behind Hillary. And, of course, all of the hand wringers (John Anderson supporters) were out there fretting up a storm, just as today. No doubt Kimberly would like to see Romney Part II where we can see just how far spineless cowardice in the face of Leftist memes like ‘they’re all racists’ or ‘you’re obligated to take jobs from Americans and give them to Mexicans else you’re a racist’ or any other assemblage of hate fables gets us. You can almost see Romney now, ducking and covering and begging the Lefties not to call him bad names.

      RodFC in reply to Mark. | March 17, 2016 at 11:14 pm

      Trump did not start something. The only seeds he is planting are the destruction of the GOPe. Hopefully the resurrection of the GOP into a greater party. Less beholden to special interests and listening more to it’s constituents. If no that, then the fragmentation of the GOP into tiny pieces. He’s doing to the Republican party what was done to the Democratic party in 1968.

      AS for the rest, obviously you another millennial who thinks they know it all while knowing nothing. Goldwater not planting the seeds for Reaganism? You do realize that Goldwater took conservatism and rewrote it. That not only did Rehnquist and Schlafley work on the Goldwater campaign, but so did a fledling Ronald Reagan who had just changed party affiliation?

      You do realize that Reagan made commercials for Goldwater that first established his role as a politician. That Reagan made the speech defining himself on behalf of the Goldwater campaign. That most of Reagan’s ideas were morphed from Goldwater’s.

      The Japanese word for teacher is Sensei. Literally it means “born before” or “one who is born before”. Applied it means “the one who was born in the mysteries before and is now passing them on”. In every sense of that word Goldcwater was Reagan’s sensei. And you say that Goldwater did not plant the seeds? Get a clue kid.

      I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.

        RodFC in reply to RodFC. | March 17, 2016 at 11:15 pm

        Oops. Ignore the last line. A Goldwater quote I typed in then decided not to use.

        mzk in reply to RodFC. | March 21, 2016 at 1:34 pm

        I’ve got it. GOPe stands for “existing GOP” – actual Republicans. In its place, you want to build a brand new party from the ashes, one that stands for (fill in whatever you believe in). Trump is of course all things to all people; it is amazing the things people imagine him to stand for, with no evidence for it. I predict that the rational Trump supporters (both of them) will be disappointed by his Preseidency, and the others will ignore it (ala Obama) and continue to worship him.

You know what just wears me slick? Everyone telling me Trump is the anti-Christ.

Any of those 16 other candidates could have said they would stop illegal immigration and that guy would be the nominee right now.

    Ragspierre in reply to kaf. | March 17, 2016 at 10:04 pm

    Cruz did, So did Perry.

    Der Donald is late to that ball.

    He’s not the anti-christ. Just a garden variety lying Collectivist sack of shit.

      Oh, I’d say you’re pretty much completely wrong about that timeline.

        Milhouse in reply to kaf. | March 18, 2016 at 11:06 am

        Cruz supported building a wall while Trump was still a Democrat.

          Wrong as usual. Cruz has never in his life supported building a Trump wall 30ft high and 1000 miles long. Illegal immigration was so important to Cruz when he announced for President illegal immigration got two sentences and the border got three words out of those two sentences and building a wall got ZERO mention.

          Ragspierre in reply to Milhouse. | March 18, 2016 at 11:33 am

          Well, Cruz has never told the lie he would build a “Trump wall”, and make another nation pay for it, either.

          But you have.

          DuraMater in reply to Milhouse. | March 18, 2016 at 1:29 pm

          Not only was Donald still a Democrat, while Cruz was fighting the Gang o8 disaster, Trump was meeting & agreeing with Gabby Pacheco & her band of entitlement demanding DREAMERs in NY and donating to open border politicians.

          Why oh why do Trump supporters willfully reject documented actions of their candidate?

      Me too Teddy says lots of things to try and sound like Trump. Problem is he is a liar who does not intend to ever build a Trump wall 30ft high and 1000 miles long, he does intend to vote for obamatrade because he loves purity of thought over jobs for americans. And in foreign policy Cruz is just another Bush neocon.

    mzk in reply to kaf. | March 21, 2016 at 1:38 pm

    Actually, what bothers me is his supporters treating him as a meesiah instead of a fallible candidate. I predict that after he is elected and governs as a Leftist, his supporters will still worhip him.

great unknown | March 17, 2016 at 8:08 pm

One of the reasons Goldwater was smashed so thoroughly was the vacillation of “Republicans” in supporting him. It was the Republicans who gave us LBJ and the “Great” Society. Had they united behind Goldwater and truly mobilized, history might have been different.

Had there been a Trump around then, calling the media out on their lies, and blasting LBJ and the Democrats for their dishonesty, the USA might be in better shape today.

Unfortunately, there were many liberals and Rinos among the GOP even then, ready to be manipulated and mislead by the Democrats.

I do agree that I wouldn’t get behind a candidate I didn’t believe in. The only reason I voted for McCain is because he chose Palin as VP, perhaps his only courageous decision in the past thirty years. The only reason I voted Romney is to try to prevent Obama, although Romney himself dissipated any chance of doing that.

So, no longer. I thought I could get behind Cruz as an alternate to Trump until he was revealed as a dirty campaigner. Now, it’s Trump or nothing.

And I no longer care that not voting would be a tacit vote for the Democrats. After all, all the “Republicans” are prescribing precisely that.

If the country has sunk to that level, then G-d help us all. I’ll stand aside and watch.

Breathlessly awaiting your next article on Never Trump.

My perception is that it wouldn’t have mattered whom the Republicans had nominated given that the nominee would be running against Kennedy’s ghost.

LBJ was a disaster: Great Society, War on Poverty, Vietnam War.

Disaster after disaster that the country still has scars from.

This is what happens when you turn to a known evil, like Hillary Clinton.

Re read that pitch: there’s not an ounce of policy in there. There’s no logical reason to vote LBJ, just an emotional, Illogical, identify based pitch.

That’s what voting for evil so you don’t have to identify with bad people “crime thinkers” gets you. Goldwater wasn’t any of those things and that was obvious to everybody.

    snopercod in reply to rotten. | March 17, 2016 at 8:30 pm

    Well, you have to admit that LBJ’s grand plan for his “Great Society” program was successful:

    I’ll have those Ni**ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years

    The welfare programs that followed led directly to the disintegration of the black family and we see the results every day in Americas’ cities.

      forksdad in reply to snopercod. | March 17, 2016 at 8:52 pm

      When I was a boy I was promised the moon, stars and colonies in the solar system. What did we spend our money on?

      Surely that’s LBJ’s greatest legacy stealing the stars from mankind.

        JimMtnViewCaUSA in reply to forksdad. | March 17, 2016 at 11:07 pm

        That is such a GREAT comment. I still remember how science fiction adventure stories dried up, and were replaced by stories of dystopias on near-future Earth.

    Old0311 in reply to rotten. | March 18, 2016 at 4:52 pm

    I did like Lady Bird’s beautify America program and the wild flowers are still pretty along the roadway.

The worst mistake Trump could make would be to tailor his winning positions on trade, immigration and intervention – to court such losers.

While Trump should reach out to the defeated establishment of the party, he cannot compromise the issues that brought him where he is, or embrace the failed policies that establishment produced. This would be throwing away his aces.

The Trump campaign is not a hostile takeover of the Republican Party. It is a rebellion of shareholders who are voting to throw out the corporate officers and board of directors that ran the company into the ground.

http://mobile.wnd.com/2016/03/suicide-of-gop-or-its-rebirth/

    inspectorudy in reply to Gary Britt. | March 17, 2016 at 11:05 pm

    “The worst mistake Trump could make would be to tailor his winning positions on trade, immigration and intervention – to court such losers.”
    What positions? The only positions are in your head since Trump has changed his mind on so many of his original positions. His new mantra is “Everything is on the table”. Talk about exciting!

On the Republican side I initially supported Jindal and now I support Cruz. On the Democratic side I thought Webb was interesting.

In regards to Trump, the more the GOP elite wail and try to stop trump at all costs makes me think I should switch and possibly vote for Trump.

I know this sounds crazy but what are the GOP afraid of in regards to Trump. It isn’t that he would be an awful president and potentially destroy The US, Israel, and the rest of the World. The GOP elite have rolled over and showed their belly to Obama on major issues. Obama has been at least I my opinion the most destructive US president but one mention of race and the GOP kisses his behind with never a strong mention of impeachment. Agreed they did not vote for Obamacare but Obama has ridden them like mules. Romney fought like mad but not against Obama in 2012 but instead against Trump.

So if the GOP elite are not fighting Trump to the death to help the US or the common citizen (else they should have been fighting Obama) what is the reason.

The only thing I can think of is that they do not own Trump and do not have anything on him that would make him give in. Trump is also the kind of person that would shout their dirty secrets to the public and burn down their virtual houses. So what is it that the GOP elite do not want known?

There has been crazy talk about a UN plan and wealth and population distribution. Personally I have always thought it was a tin foil hat theory. However, something has got the GOP elite in a frenzy and willing to give the country to Hillary in order to stop Trump and from that and how they act with Obama it is obvious the concern is not for the US or us peons.

Anyone have any ideas what is driving the GOP elite crazy? Is it just the thought of them being out of a job potentially or does anyone think it might be something more? Does anyone think that if Donald found out who killed JFK or there really are aliens at Area 51 or he found evidence the GOP has been selling the US out, or whatever that he would not immediately tell the American public (maybe even reveal it live on tv).

    janitor in reply to Sunlight78. | March 18, 2016 at 12:32 am

    The only thing I can think of is that they do not own Trump and do not have anything on him that would make him give in.

    Exactly right. It’s not about Trump per se. It’s about that their purse strings are being pulled by same forces that have purchased uniparty corruption and that’s who is flipped out over Trump.

Anyone who thinks Trump is crude, doesn’t know about Johnson. That one was proud of his schlong, and made sure that people got to see it in most inappropriate contexts.

And yet, the Republican elites told us in 1996, 2008, 2012 its our duty to vote republican when our guy might not have won. It is only an issue of conscience when its an outsider or such. (I am a Cruz fan)

I am with you Sunlight. I wrote in another thread how the liberals/progressives have the same reaction. The libs, progs, and elites do not want Trump. They hate him more than the number one Trump hater here, which is an astonishing amount of loathing.

It may be Legal, but with KK shilling for Rubio, and now pushing a Clinton victory, it sure as heck is not an “Insurrection” anymore.

Twitter could combine #NeverTrump with #Hillary2016 since they mean the same thing.

How do we know positively that the democrats and their media lackeys fear Trump could beat Hillary like a drum in the general election??

We know that because of how crazy they are over getting the GOPe to stop Trump before he gets the nomination. Because their biggest fear is that Trump will get the nomination and then beat Hillary like a drum in the general election.

Think about it. Does anyone in their right mind think that if the democrats and media believed the GOP was about to self destruct and nominate someone who would lose so badly to Hillary it would resemble the goldwater loss to LBJ that they would be in a complete panic over that thought. If they believed the nomination of Trump would destroy the GOP would the democrats and media be hysterically begging the GOPe to do anything and everything of any underhanded and undemocratic means necessary to keep Trump from getting the nomination.

Of course they would not behave as they are if they truly thought Trump will lose in the general election and take the GOP party down with him.

So like so many in the GOPe, including Lindsey Graham today with his endorsement of Cruz, KK joins the GOPe rush to denounce Trump yet again.

It is not odd at all to Trump supporters to see morons like those that have turned the GOP into a branch of the democrat uniparty rushing out to give the SAME EXACT TALKING POINTS AGAINST TRUMP AS DO THE DEMOCRATS, THE RACIST NAACP, AND THE DRIVE BY MEDIA.

They are after all the moronic leaders of the GOPe wing of the democrat uniparty. KK their newest declared member.

Lastly I agree with the poster above who made a comment similar to the following. The way the GOPe and their corrupt conservative clacks and their globalist mega donors have spent 300 million to try and harm Trump. The way they continue to go after him and use the party apparatus against him. The way they look down their noses at Trump and his voters, and the way they have launched this #neverTrump bullcrap.

They have convinced me that turn about is the only fair play. If Trump is denied the nomination I personally will not sit out the election and not vote. No siree. Not me. I will happily march down to the polling place and vote for Hillary and a straight democrat ticket. I will vote democrat for the first time in my 63 years. And I will continue to vote democrat until I either I or the GOP is dead and buried. I will encourage every Trump voter I can to make sure they do likewise. The GOP must be destroyed even if that means handing the country and the Supreme Court over to the control of the democrat socialist/communists.

    gmac124 in reply to Gary Britt. | March 17, 2016 at 10:56 pm

    ” I will vote democrat”

    Not a surprise. Trump is the best Democrat running for president this cycle.

    inspectorudy in reply to Gary Britt. | March 17, 2016 at 11:11 pm

    “It is not odd at all to Trump supporters to see morons like those that have turned the GOP into a branch of the democrat uniparty rushing out to give the SAME EXACT TALKING POINTS AGAINST TRUMP AS DO THE DEMOCRATS, THE RACIST NAACP, AND THE DRIVE BY MEDIA.”
    Oh you mean like when Trump called GWB a liar and took the US into a war in Iraq? Or when he called McCain a loser? Or when he called Dr. Carson a pedophile and an incompetent doctor? Do you know that your buddy Don used the same exact line about GWB that code pink used? If you are going to live in the hyperbolic world you have to expect to get hit in the face once in a while.

“I’m not sympathetic at all to the Erick Erickson of the world. If they want to form the let’s elect Hillary Clinton club, fine. But they ought to be honest about it. Any effort to help anybody but the Republican nominee helps Hillary Clinton. And if you think giving Hillary Clinton the Supreme Court, having Hillary Clinton run our foreign policy, having Hillary Clinton support the unions to continue ruining our children in schools. If you think that’s acceptable, do it. Erick Erickson’s not playing a risk-free game. It’s not like there is some pure middle way. If he does not support the Republican nominee, he is functionally supporting Hillary Clinton in the general election.”
— Newt Gingrich

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/03/17/gingrich-im-not-sympathetic-to-erick-ericksons-third-party-overtures-would-be-functionally-supporting-hillary-clinton/

KK, I agree that votes are not entitlements and they must be earned. Nor can I stand Trump, and hell will be at the temperature of liquid helium before I’d vote for him.

But whether or not you should feel pressed to make a choice for Cruz is entirely dependent on whether or not you expect to see a choice at the convention. I too would look forward to a convention fight, but that may be the “false choice” you are creating.

It is universally understood that Kasich is drawing support from Cruz. It is also understood that whoever wins a majority or plurality in the upcoming State elections is going to get a disproportional vote. While Trump may only get 35 to 40 percent of the vote, he will likely get 45 to 60 percent of the delegates. He does not need popular majorities to win.

Moreover, it is inconceivable that Kasich would be a compromise choice – the second choice for most Trump voters is Cruz. I assume that the same is true of Kasich voters.

So if you feel Cruz is also unacceptable, don’t vote. BUT if you are really looking forward to a contested convention, voting for Cruz (to give him some clear wins) is the optimal way to insure that Trump is denied a victory.

Unless you live in the rare district/state where Kasich is a better bet to win a plurality than Cruz, Cruz is the ONLY reasonable path to take.

I have to disagree. I don’t want @RealDonaldTrump because he will be my dream president. I want him to #BuffnDownTheGOPe.

    gmac124 in reply to valegorge. | March 17, 2016 at 10:53 pm

    You might want to pick someone else if you want to smack down the GOP. Trump is already campaigning for their support and I am sure he will negotiate away every position that you thought he held as soon as he has the nomination.

This is a re-tread article that was already posted and definitely not worth it. LBJ was a great legacy that this failure and those like him left behind in their wake.

Kemberlee Kaye, I can understand your contempt for Trump. To most of us he is the last person on this earth that I would vote for other than hillary. I was a Marine in Vietnam and I wasn’t there because I wanted to be there. I went there to serve my country and once there did what I was told. I fought so that people like you would not have to and that our freedoms would be preserved. But to take that freedom and walk away in a huff means that me and my fellow soldiers and Marines failed. You have a duty to your country, if not to Trump, to stop what is a known disaster in hillary. We may not have a clue what Trump will do both good and terrible but we ALL know what hillary will do. You get off your privileged ass and vote for whomever has the big R behind their name! Think of it as your duty and a privilege just to vote.

    Freedom means being free to choose. If you fought for her freedom, then let her choose to not give her vote to anyone who she can’t support.

    That is what you said you were fighting for.

      inspectorudy in reply to Mark. | March 18, 2016 at 11:17 am

      Her freedom runs up against her duty to her country. Those of us who served had a choice to some extent but when the time came “Not doing anything” was not an option. I am sorry to say but there are many in this generation who take so much for granted and act like the world started with them. Does she not realize that hillary will offer us a SCOTUS justice that will make Ginsberg look conservative? Does she not realize that our military will continue to crumble under hillary? Does she really think that free college tuition and healthcare for all will be free? There is more here at stake than the personality running for the office. All of us must face the threat of a hillary presidency and do our duty to our country to prevent it ANYWAY we can!

        gmac124 in reply to inspectorudy. | March 18, 2016 at 5:34 pm

        “Her freedom runs up against her duty to her country.”

        I also fought for my country and completely disagree with you. If Trump wins the nomination than we have lost the presidency. The focus on stopping Hillary will be electing Tea Party candidates for congress. At least they don’t roll over (unless named Rubio) when the Democrats come knocking. Duty is many fold not just sucking up and voting for some schmuck with no principles that was foisted on us.

    Kemberlee Kaye in reply to inspectorudy. | March 18, 2016 at 3:52 pm

    And all this time I’ve been living life, unaware I have a privileged ass. It’s a shame, really.

      It’s so cute when people on the right use leftist lunacy in their tirades. Next we’ll be RAAACISTS and haters and anti-science Neanderthals. Oh, and Bible- and gun-clinging rubes. I don’t know about you, but when I hear these ad hominem attacks, I immediately change my entire worldview. /sarc

      On a serious note, that “our side” has internalized leftist talking points and ideological views to the extent they are regularly trotted out makes me sad. We’ve lost the culture war.

Don Lemon had the actor from the 1964 ad on his show tonight. He said he was a Republican and believed what he said in the ad. But then he said the last time he voted for a republican was John Lindsay. Wasn’t that in 1965? To me, that somewhat dilutes the message, ‘confession of a republican.’

legalizehazing | March 17, 2016 at 11:57 pm

Umbrage. Indignant. Comparing Goldwater to Trump as individuals is particularly offensive to me. I see what your saying. I appreciate it. The danger. The uncertainty. The question. That’s the similarity. Goldwater was a man of principle. He was a man of God. He was a man of solid clear morals.

Maybe HRC is LBJ for Trump.

I do LOVE Cruz.

But. But I take offense at comparing Barry to Donald.

    Milhouse in reply to legalizehazing. | March 18, 2016 at 11:25 am

    She’s not comparing them, she’s contrasting them. What was despicable propaganda in 1964 has become reality in 2016. Every lie this actor told about Goldwater is true of Trump. Trump is Bizarro-Goldwater. He rejects every word in The Conscience of a Conservative, but he presents the spit and image of the parody-Goldwater that his enemies portrayed. And he’s doing it on purpose; he believes that parody, and deliberately says whatever he thinks that parody would say.

Somehow, you forgot 1980.

As for the not voting for the GOP candidate in the general election, I can see myself voting for someone else if the candidate comes by it honestly. If Trump has a stroke tomorrow. or if it is discovered that Trump had a foursome with Weiner, Huma and Hillary and doesn’t get another vote.

But make no mistake, if Trump comes in with less delegates then 1237 and Cruz does not have, neither will get it. Right now the trial balloon they are floating is Ryan. The delegates are mostly minor functionaries in the GOP, and the pressure the GOPe can put on them can be tremendous. In the end the GOPe will do what it wants or make the one with the most delegates the candidate.

Friends have convinced that should Trump come in with the most delegates and be the only qualified candidate, that I should write in Trump and not vote downticket.

I think most Trump supporters will do the something similar.

I also think some of the antiTrump people will vote for Trump anyway. The ones that think they are willing to suffer Hillary will probably change their mind, once I reveal a consequence of Hillary becoming president that I have not yet seen mentioned.

I won’t mention it now, so that don’t try Gary or other Trump supporters resolve. Once Trump is nominated or the general election is over I will reveal it.

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/03/levin-populism-is-progressivism-which-is-statism

Yep. As I’ve been saying now for months…

T-rump is just a Collectivist. If he takes the nomination, all you have is a choice between one BIG GOVERNMENT ANTI-Constitution statist and another.

It’s a choice a lot of us will refuse.

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