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Vincente Fox hands Trump campaign gift: We Will Not Pay for “That F*ing Wall”

Vincente Fox hands Trump campaign gift: We Will Not Pay for “That F*ing Wall”

What better enemy than former President of Mexico

Like both Ted Cruz (who campaigned for his Senate seat on the building of the border wall in 2012) and Marco Rubio, Donald Trump has stated that the wall that has already been approved by Congress will be built during his presidency should he be elected.

Trump, however, takes his stance to another level in declaring that Mexico will pay for the wall.

Earlier this month, former Mexican president Felipe Calderón said that Mexico would “not pay one cent” toward the wall.

Just yesterday, a second former Mexican president, Vicente Fox, stated, in very explicit terms, that Mexico will not pay for “that “f*’ing wall.”

Real Clear Politics reports:

In an interview Thursday with Jorge Ramos on Fusion, former Mexican president Vicente Fox responds to Donald Trump’s plan to build a wall on the U.S.-Mexican border.

“I’m not going to pay for that f*king wall! He should pay for it. He’s got the money,” Fox said.

Watch (Language Warning) :

Trump states that the “wall just got ten feet taller” (so there!) and complained about the “filthy disgusting” f-bomb used by the former Mexican president.


Trump took to Twitter to demand an apology.^tfw

This is an electoral gift to Trump.


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The wall and border security is one of the few issues where Trump is in the right.

The Mexican government can scream all they want, they will pay one way or another…leverage is always a good thing.

sure you will, Pancho: we just slap a 25% tax on all money being wired to Mexico from the US…

or, better yet, from anywhere south of our border.

we’ll build the wall after the stampede of illegal aliens heading for home.

    Ragspierre in reply to redc1c4. | February 26, 2016 at 5:48 pm

    Without wishing to engage in a flame-war…

    No. You will not. Not more than once.

    If you worked in the sun would you let some azzhole take a quarter of your money sent home?

    Illegals are not stupid, and they are inventive and tough. They will wire around anything that Der Donald tries to use to take their funds, and they’ll do it almost immediately.

    Besides, the T-rumpian “plan” calls for “embargoing remittances”. That clearly implies holding money taken in an account. Just think about the new bureaucracy that would be required to do the accounting and such.

    T-rump is all talk, and no plan.

What a dumba** Blitzer is — wannabe spokesman for Mexico.

And Trump isn’t really going to run and he’s done for because he insulted McCain, and besides, he’s maxed out in the mid 20s, right?

    JimMtnViewCaUSA in reply to DaMav. | February 26, 2016 at 5:41 pm

    OK, I’m convinced Trump is a bad guy, esp due to the Trump University thing.
    But Hillary is, IMO, much worse. Bernie is, IMO, much worse. Sorry, but Rubio won’t win nor will Ted. And the GOPe has shown about zero inclination to push any of the issues that matter to me such as illegal immigration, big inefficient expensive gov’t and so on.

    So, I’ll be voting to Trump if he gets the nom. At least all his supporters who are trashed daily here will be energized into trying to change things instead of lapsing into inactivity.

      Large corporations — especially those with thousands of managers and employees making decisions — get into lawsuits regularly. The Trump U. thing is a relatively minor civil lawsuit, and the merits are unknown.

        It is typical for a business to have lawsuits by unhappy customers, but not where it is class action charging that the entire business is a fraud and that business is now defunct. The NY Atty general called it bait and switch. It is civil, which means he won’t go to jail, but it is not a thing to take lightly, especially if you see Trump as someone who fights for the little guy. He is a rich guy that took a lot of working people’s money on the promise they could get rich, and is calling them losers.
        To you it may be a cost of doing business, but for some of these students, they spent life savings. They may have been foolish for falling for it, and if you feel that way, it confirms you at least can see it it has scam aspects.

If the Americans ever truly decide that Mexico will help fund border security, then by one fashion or another Mexico can be “encouraged” to participate. U.S. dollars flow south by many means and are vital to Mexico’s economy. Finding myriad methods to leverage Mexico into participation would be much, much easier than generating the American will necessary to do so. What’s missing is the will, not the way.

    Observer in reply to Merlin. | February 26, 2016 at 8:40 pm

    I have a suggestion. One of the reason that Mexicans living and working illegally in the U.S. can afford to send home so many billions of dollars in remittances to Mexico each year is because U.S. taxpayers are funding so many of their living expenses here. If the federal government were to audit the food stamp rolls and require every food stamp recipient to prove U.S. citizenship or legal residency or lose their benefits, we could save billions of dollars every year. Since 2009, Obama has knowingly, and illegally, added millions of illegal aliens to the food stamp rolls, at a cost to U.S. taxpayers of billions of dollars a year. Same with the Medicare Part D prescription drug benefits. The Obama administration admits it pays out billions of dollars’ worth of prescription drug benefits every year to thousands of illegal aliens. And then there are the tens of billions of dollars in “tax credits” that the IRS knowingly pays out to illegal aliens every year. And there are doubtless thousands (if not more) illegal aliens on Medicaid, Obamacare, AFDC, and all sorts of other welfare rolls. Start putting an end to this massive theft of U.S. resources by illegal aliens, and we’ll have more than enough money to build a border wall — and Mexico will see remittances reduced at the same time (since illegal aliens will have to spend more of their money here, rather than wiring it back to Mexico).

Trumps takes three in a row by winning Nevada.
China whines.
Mexico whines.

What a shame no one’s paid any attention to Obungler.

Los Presidentes Calderon y Fox are 1%’s from a 3rd World Country and their opinions are worthless to me. One way or another, something impermeable will be built and paid for by countries south of the border whether they realize it or not. Hopefully in my lifetime.

    Ragspierre in reply to G. de La Hoya. | February 26, 2016 at 7:01 pm

    Here’s a though question…

    Why does nobody build a big, fancy dam in the middle of a lake?

    Answer: There is no gradient in a lake. Water happily seeks its own level.

    If you want to REALLY halt mass illegal immigration into the US from our south, take away the gradient. Make it impossible to enjoy living…and earning…in the US as an illegal immigrant.

    Now, some of our resident MOW-RONS will chime in and observe that criminals and drug smugglers will always try our southern border. Is our northern border any different? No. We don’t worry about that border because their is almost no gradient between Canada and the US.

    A wall is just a big, stupid dam that motivated people will find ways around. See East and West Coast.

      “Why does nobody build a big, fancy dam in the middle of a lake?”

      Must be some of your knowledge from your construction days. Of course dams are built in the middle of a lake, known as Coffer dams, used to drain an area for various reasons.

      Kinda like draining the USA of illegals.

        Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | February 26, 2016 at 7:55 pm

        A coffer dam CREATES and MAINTAINS a new TEMPORARY gradient.

        You deflecting, distracting, lying phuc.

          Your metaphor was stupid. And a coffer dam does not have to be dismantled. In can create a permanent gradient if one desires. See ponds, with coffer dam drains.


          Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | February 26, 2016 at 9:49 pm

          The analogy is very apt.

          Your attempt to distract, deflect and lie is typical.

          There are no such things as “coffer dam drains”, you lying SOS. Just vertical drains.

          Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | February 26, 2016 at 10:00 pm

          A coffer dam is, by definition, a temporary structure. You lying SOS.

          And nobody builds a big, fancy dam in the middle of a lake.

          Likewise, nobody builds a coffer dam to CREATE a new gradient that hydraulic force WANTS to overcome for no good reason. And DRAINING or PUMPING water OUT of a dammed area is COUNTER to the analogy.

          You stupid, lying SOS.

          Just make illegals unwelcome here, and they will find their own way out, and nobody will be drawn here.

          You stupid, lying SOS.

          “Why does nobody build a big, fancy dam in the middle of a lake?”

          As I have shown, they do. So you use a stupid analogy that is incorrect, then call me a liar for pointing it out.

          Patent rags BS.

          A vertical drain in an existing pond is sometimes installed by building a coffer dam, which then becomes a permanent feature. I won’t call you a liar, you just don’t know.

          Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | February 26, 2016 at 10:39 pm

          That’s, of course, another lie, and you’re a liar.

          Having built impoundments of many types, you’d be a wall-eyed idiot to install a vertical drain AFTER you completed the dam and filled the area behind.

          But you, in true T-rump sucker fashion, will lie about anything.

          You are a stupid, lying SOS. Typical of the T-rumpian cultist.

      CloseTheFed in reply to Ragspierre. | February 26, 2016 at 7:44 pm

      All these comments you make: you seem determined to despise Trump. Disliking him is enough.

        Ragspierre in reply to CloseTheFed. | February 26, 2016 at 7:59 pm

        Let there be no confusion: I hate,, loath, and despise Collectivists.

        Der DOnald is a stinking, lying, fraudulent Collectivist thug.

        He’s an outright danger to the Republic.

          Don’t hold back Mr. Pierre, it isn’t healthy.

          healthguyfsu in reply to Ragspierre. | February 27, 2016 at 1:42 am

          So if it’s between Trump, Bernie, Hillary screw, marry, kill?

          Trump was not my choice either Rags, but you might want to start facing the possibility of it.

          Bernie would be the ABSOLUTE WORST thing that can happen to our country…he’d actually look good while in office but he would forever shift the goalposts that are still soft in the ground from the last “gimme stuff” elections of Obama. He’d leave a permanent scar on our economy for generations if he got even half of his cooky crap into the government.

          Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | February 27, 2016 at 8:19 am

          I have long ago faced the possibility.

          There is a good argument to be made that Der Donald would be the very WORST of the three. But I won’t vote for any Collectivist, as I’ve said before. I just will write in someone of my choosing.

          And, if T-rump wins, I’ll begin the process of militating for his impeachment, which I can predict will be justified early and often.

Funny how Vincente Fox speaks better English (and can swear better) than the Donald. We’re looking forward to yet another President, whether Hillary or Donald, who has barely mastered the English language. Hell, Obama continues to say, “The problem is, is that ….” How is it that many world leaders, like Angela Merkel, not only have majored in STEM but are fluent in several languages, while we get nothing but wishy-washy humanities majors who barely speak English? At least they’re not exclusively Jewish and Roman Catholic humanities majors like SCOTUS has.

Fox is just a little distracted or anxious. The problem is not the wall. The problem is a mass exodus (e.g. refugee crises) from second and third-world nations, including Mexico.

That time when our Trumpkins’ new hero Chris Christie openly mocked Trump’s signature solution, the Great Wall of Trump.


Before the debate fades into history, let’s go to the tape. It’s short: Three times, Trump says his sister and Sam Alito signed the same bill. As Paul politely put it, judges don’t sign bills. I would say, how did this knucklehead get through the eighth grade?
—Powerline Blog

How, indeed?

“Skip to 2:10 for the lowlight from today’s rally in Texas — which was carried live, I believe in its entirety, by all three cable news networks as another in-kind contribution to Trump 2016. What makes this Trumpier than every other soundbite is the high-even-by-his-standards blend of ignorance, fascist impulse, and canny populism behind it.”

See? Der Donald is a stinking, lying, Collectivist thug.

Wake the FLUCK up, people.


My problem with Trump is that he is a dealmaker trying to make a sale. Right now he’s trying to make a deal with conservatives — so this is the very most conservative we’ll ever see him.

If he gets the nomination, he now starts working on making the second part of the deal with the other party in the negotiations, the general public.

So this is the most conservative we’ll ever see Trump — this is the absolute most conservative he’ll ever be — and he’s not conservative at all, except, possibly, on immigration. He combines liberal policy impulses with frankly authoritarian or even fascist ones, which he thinks are “what conservatives want,” because, frankly, he conceives of us as ugly-minded, stupid dummies who get off on this shit.

That’s why he didn’t put the “Ban Muslims” line in a more palatable, persuasive form, like “Reduce immigration from Muslim-majority countries or countries with a terrorism problem to a level where we can vet each individual applicant.”

No, he put it in the most bigoted, ugly way he could think of, because that’s about his level, and because, also, that’s what he thinks “conservatives” are.

Even on issues like that, where I would like him to move the Overton Window so we can begin discussing a rational reduction of such immigration until this Jihadist Madness passes from history, I find he doesn’t move it at all, because he makes the issue much more toxic and alienating than it needs to be.

What does Trump actually know about conservatives? He seems to only know five things, which he repeats in such crude ways it’s preposterously insulting.
—Via InstaPundit, who also seems to get the menace of T-rump

You should read the whole thing.

Besides getting Messico to build it, we could use people on welfare to do the actual work. It would give them something to do besides sitting home, watching the View, and smoking crack with a malt liquor chaser…