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Obama’s Town Hall on Guns Just More of the Same

Obama’s Town Hall on Guns Just More of the Same

Straw men, loopholes and accusations.

Obama’s “Guns in America” town hall event on CNN last night was a quiet event with plenty of respectful questions from the invitation only audience but failed to present any new ideas for dealing with gun violence short of making it harder for people to buy guns.

Within the first 15 minutes, Obama complained that every time he tries to do something on guns, his message is distorted by his critics.

ABC News reported:

Obama Slams Charge That He’s Taking Away Guns as ‘Conspiracy’

The president quickly emphasized that he has “respect” for people who want a gun for hunting and sportsmanship, but it “makes sense to keep guns out of hands of people who would do others harm.”

Obama and moderator Anderson Cooper pointed out that the National Rifle Association was invited to participate in the forum, but declined to attend. Still, the president said he was “happy” to meet with the NRA to discuss his proposals.

“But the conversation has to be based on facts and truth and what we’re actually proposing, not some imaginary fiction in which Obama’s trying to take away your guns,” Obama stressed.

President Obama is in no position to make this complaint.

Aside from the lies Obama has told the American people (think “if you like your healthcare plan…”) he has repeatedly cited the Australian model for gun control as reasonable, a plan which was enforced through outright gun confiscation.

Furthermore, left wing news outlets like the New York Times and the New Republic which have functioned as an arm of the Obama campaign for the last seven years have openly called for the outright banning of guns in recent months.

Nevertheless, Obama portrayed himself as a reasonable man who just wants to make small changes.

Stephen Gutowski of the Washington Free Beacon:

Obama Says His Policies Will Make Guns a Little Bit Harder to Get

“If we are able to set up a strong background check system, and my proposal by the way includes having the FBI hire a couple hundred more people to help process background checks because their big numbers you’re talking about 20 million checks that are getting done every year. Hiring 200 more ATF agents to be able to go after unscrupulous gun dealers. Then that will apply across the country and so, you know, some states may have laws that allow for conceal and carry. Some states may not. There’s still going to be differences, but what will at least be consistent across the country is that it’s a little bit harder to get a gun.

“Now, we can’t guarantee that criminals are not going to have ways of getting guns, but for example, it may be a little more difficult and a little more expensive, and the laws of supply and demand mean that if something is harder to get and a little more expensive to get, fewer people get them. And that in and of itself can make a difference.”

Here’s the video of that exchange:

During the course of the event, Obama also managed to blame both the NRA and Republicans in congress for standing in the way of the changes he has tried to make.

Of course, no Obama event on guns would be complete without at least one total fabrication:

Featured image via YouTube.

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“…it may be a little more difficult and a little more expensive, and the laws of supply and demand mean that if something is harder to get and a little more expensive to get, fewer people get them. And that in and of itself can make a difference.”

Why does Barracula hate low income black women…?

    alaskabob in reply to Ragspierre. | January 8, 2016 at 10:58 am

    Furthermore, making the price of gun acquisition and ownership more expensive eventually bringing in class conflict and envy…..”only the rich can own guns”. This did happen in England as part of ongoing “logic” to control gun ownership…. Also, we have seen the same tactic to infringe on voting rights with pole taxes and the classic dem demand of motor-voter laws. Fine… In states demanding permits to own guns…strip out the law or gave same motor-bother laws apply to permits.

The individuals he’s referring to don’t want to read a book. I pay an average of $10.00 for a book. You can’t buy a toy gun for that price.

What would happen if everyone just ignored the whole dishonest farce?

    G. de La Hoya in reply to bastiatfan. | January 8, 2016 at 11:44 am

    Rather than ignore, I would love to see an hour-long parody of this event mocking Obama, Cooper, & CNN.

    JimMtnViewCaUSA in reply to bastiatfan. | January 8, 2016 at 11:50 am

    I’d like to see CNN served by the IRS for providing a free info-mercial to the Dem Party.

    “Straw men, loopholes and accusations.” Planted shills too.

“Guns are cheaper and easier than to get a book.”

That remark depends entirely on the type of gun and the book, doesn’t it? You can’t LEGALLY buy any kind of functional gun for the price of a library book (free). My kid paid $400 for a college textbook (!!!) last semester. Obama did not explain his price point.

It is credible that, in Chicago, with its strict gun laws, and for the kind of person that is unfamiliar with the local public libraries, a gun that has been used in a crime can be had for free.

The point here is that law-abiding citizens can’t buy a gun as easily as they can check out a book.

His point is that criminals pay less, and the way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals is to reduce the supply of legal weapons. This makes as much sense as the joke about the drunk who was hunting for his keys under a street light, even though he knew he had dropped them elsewhere, “because the light is better, here.”

The better point, of course, made by a black spokesperson for the NRA in a spot last night, was that enforcement of our existing gun laws, which make it illegal for felons to carry any kind of gun, would be effective, and isn’t being done.

JimMtnViewCaUSA | January 8, 2016 at 11:47 am

I had let my NRA membership lapse; I re-upped last night. For anyone who wishes to show support for 2A and one of the oldest US civil rights orgs, check out nrahq.org.

Despite relentless Dem demonization, I was intrigued to learn that the NRA is considered relatively squishy. If you want to support more aggressive gun rights supporters, check this blog post for a couple of ideas.
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6965

Obama thinks one thing about guns and gun owners. They are bad. He does not think a women should have a gun to protect her self or her family.

All he wants is to make it harder for you and me to buy a gun.

Did we hear once about a bad guy going to jail for a gun related crime? Nope! How about Project Exile across the country?

His end goal in a full out gun ban!
It won’t happen in his last year but that is where this is going. He said this is just a start? It will take time for our gun safety to take effect. What is next Mr. Obama?

Henry Hawkins | January 8, 2016 at 12:06 pm

Obama, like all statists with fascist cores, believes that if he can turn everyone into sheep wolves will cease to exist. Wolves are in full support.

    Ragspierre in reply to Henry Hawkins. | January 8, 2016 at 2:13 pm

    It’s a little more dark than that. Collectivists intend to organize and monopolize the wolves. Crime never goes away, it just becomes an activity of the State.

    See Stazi. See also KGB.

Same old. Same old. Obama is reliably pro-choice and denies basic human rights.

Why did anyone who wasn’t a total obama supporter even show up? Why validate the idea that their opinion mattered to that man? He lies all the time. The fact that he said he isn’t going to take the guns away had more to do with the fact that he can’t. As soon as he can find a way, he will.

Obama just said there are neighborhoods in America where it is easier to buy Barack Obama: Hope and Change than a book

NRA: ‘We Were Offered One Pre-Screened Question’ at CNN’s Town Hall on Guns

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/nra-we-were-offered-one-pre-screened-question-cnns-town-hall-guns

“Did we participate in CNN’s event tonight? No, we didn’t,” Cox told Megyn Kelly. “We were offered one pre-screened question. Megyn, I know that you don’t send your questions over to the White House, so I’d rather have a conversation with you that’s intellectually honest than sit through a lecture and get one opportunity to ask a pre-screened question.”

“Does it make sense to meet with him (Obama)?” Kelly asked Cox.

“And talk about what, Megyn?” he responded. “This president can talk about background checks all day long, but that’s nothing more than a distraction away from the fact that he can’t keep us safe, and he supported every gun control proposal that’s ever been made. He doesn’t support the individual right to own a firearm — that’s been the position of his Supreme Court nominees, that’s been the position of his administration — so what are we going to talk about, basketball?

“I’m not really interested in talking to the president who doesn’t have a basic level of respect or understanding of the Second Amendment and law-abiding gun owners in this country.”

…………..

“This president, in his 8th year, has decided he wants to talk about doing something about prosecutions in this country. He has overseen a 40 percent decrease — a 40 percent decrease — in the prosecution of criminal misuse of firearms. At the same time, as if that’s not bad enough, he’s going back and releasing armed criminals who have been successfully prosecuted and sent to jail,” Cox said.

“[H]e’s no longer credible to speak to the issues of law-abiding gun owners.”

buckeyeminuteman | January 8, 2016 at 1:15 pm

In neighborhoods like Baltimore, Chicago, St Louis, Anacostia and Compton I would bet that guns are more readily available than books.

obama lied. Nothing unusual about that. While I’ve only seen YouTube vids of the disinfomercial, his response to the woman who was raped and now carries a gun falls in line with his Illinois senate vote on self protection – he doesn’t think we should be allowed to protect ourselves.

From Politifact
Hale DeMar, a 52-year-old Wilmette resident, was arrested and charged with misdemeanor violations for shooting, in the shoulder and leg, a burglar who broke into his home not once, but twice. Cook County prosecutors dropped all charges against DeMar.
In March 2004, the Illinois Senate passed Senate Bill 2165, a law introduced in response to DeMar’s case, with provisions designed to assert a right of citizens to protect themselves against home invasions, such that self-defense requirements would be viewed to take precedence over local ordinances against handgun possession. The measure passed the Illinois Senate by a vote of 38-20. Barack Obama was one of the 20 state senators voting against the measure.

Governor Rod Blagojevich vetoed the bill. On Nov. 9, 2004, the Illinois Senate voted 40-18 to override Blagojevich’s veto. Again, Obama acted against the bill.

On Nov. 17, the Illinois House voted overwhelmingly, 85-30, to override the governor’s veto and Senate Bill 2165 became law.

    MaggotAtBroadAndWall in reply to 4fun. | January 8, 2016 at 4:14 pm

    Correct. He does not think guns are important to have for self defense. From the first excerpted block of text above:

    “The president quickly emphasized that he has “respect” for people who want a gun for hunting and sportsmanship, but it “makes sense to keep guns out of hands of people who would do others harm.”

    He “respects people who want a gun for hunting and sportsmanship, but noticeably absent is “respect” for people who want a gun for self defense.

    JimMtnViewCaUSA in reply to 4fun. | January 8, 2016 at 4:17 pm

    It’s great to see the Ill legislature eventually accumulate enough votes to overcome Dem opposition. If only we could do that on the federal level …. (I’m looking at you two, Ryan and McConnell)

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