Terrorism, Crime Scene Chaos, and the Latest from San Bernardino
And a press conference that referenced Brittany Spears
Chaos, pandemonium, terrorism, popsicles, Britney Spears — this is the latest from San Bernardino where fourteen were murdered earlier this week.
Today’s developments in no certain order.
It was a terrorist attack.
The FBI confirmed Friday that the attacks are under federal terrorism investigation.
FBI Director Comey on #SanBernardino attack: ‘This is now a federal terrorism investigation led by the FBI.’ pic.twitter.com/l9fQlRIhqg
— ABC News (@ABC) December 4, 2015
Because we’re officially in some bizarro world, even Chris Hayes seems to get it:
This is why people were so intent on calling the Planned Parenthood shooting terrorism. With that one word, everything changes.
— Christopher Hayes (@chrislhayes) December 4, 2015
Even though the FBI is calling San Bernardino a terrorist attack, the White House keeps beating the gun control drum.
And then things got weird. Starting with the jihadi couple’s landlord.
Evidently, the terrorists left “jihad” off their resume.
Landlord of San Bernardino shooting suspect tells ABC: "They didn't say they were terrorists when they moved in." pic.twitter.com/siauCmAN4t
— RED BREAKING NEWS (@RedBreakingNews) December 4, 2015
So the landlord, who did not use a popsicle, pried the wood off the doors and let the press rummage through the apartment of terror.
The Hill reported:
Members of the media on Friday swarmed into the home of the suspects in this week’s shooting in San Bernardino, Calif., as many watched in disbelief at the level of access shown on live television.
Reporters for live broadcasts on networks including CNN and MSNBC said the dozens of reporters and camera crews were invited into the townhouse by its landlord.
Some reports suggested the entertainment show, Inside Edition, paid the landlord $1,000 to gain entry:
On the other hand, MSNBC reported that Inside Edition paid $1000 to get access and then reporters poured in
— David Folkenflik (@davidfolkenflik) December 4, 2015
But the entire ordeal turned into a madhouse:
Vox: Actually, It's Totally Normal and Cool to Have a Rummage Sale in a Live Crime Scene
— The Scandalous DJT (@AceofSpadesHQ) December 4, 2015
CNN journo on scene says no longer just reporters: "There's a woman with a dog walking into the house…"
— David Folkenflik (@davidfolkenflik) December 4, 2015
Law Enforcement Analyst Dumbfounded as Media Rummages Through House of Suspected Terrorists https://t.co/m5uSDzJ718 pic.twitter.com/BQ1sClfBHf
— Free Beacon (@FreeBeacon) December 4, 2015
We’d be remiss if we left out the alleged popsicle theft that occurred in the midst of all of this. Mashable reports:
A Sunday Times reporter stands accused of popsicle theft on Friday after he was seen standing outside the San Bernardino shooters’ residence carrying an object that looked like an orange-flavored frozen ice pop.
Not so, he says.
The object in question was, in fact, a screwdriver that the reporter, Toby Harnden, used to assist the landlord as he broke into the house. The doors had been sealed with plywood by the FBI and the landlord, Doyle Miller, was set on letting dozens of members of the media inside.
“It’s a screwdriver, not a popsicle,” Harnden tweeted as many expressed amazement that a journalist had stolen dessert from an alleged terrorist. “I was helping [the] landlord, who was right beside me, take off the board.” He added: “I can confirm that no frozen treats were involved in my assisting the landlord.”
MSNBC effectively doxxed the terrorist family members live, on air.
The Atlantic explained:
A baffling, surreal scene just played out on the two networks, where the landlord of the San Bernardino shooting suspects apparently allowed reporters into their apartment.
The result was disturbing. On live national television, reporters sifted through the remains of the lives of Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik. They picked over children’s toys. They held up photos, speculating about whether the woman depicted in one might be Malik. They displayed Social Security cards and driver’s licenses with readily identifiable information—and not just for the deceased suspects:
Screenshots from MSNBC. I added the redout pic.twitter.com/Ttu3zJ0Fjj
— Stephen Miller (@redsteeze) December 4, 2015
As if the journalistic irresponsibility of baselessly speculating while holding up images of potentially innocent people on TV wasn’t bad enough, it beggars belief the scene wasn’t taped off and guarded. Reporters were given free rein to walk through an apartment that is an important part of the investigation, and they were allowed to handle what one would expect to be evidence. Police didn’t appear to know the media tour was going on. Brian Ries of Mashable reports:
Asked FBI Los Angeles if suspects' apartment now open to the media/public: “I don’t believe so…it is still an ongoing investigation.”
— Brian Ries (@moneyries) December 4, 2015
And it ended as you’d expect:
CNN reporters outside San Bernardino killers' home says landlord was escorted away by law enforcement, put into unmarked vehicle
— Jon Passantino (@passantino) December 4, 2015
We finally got a picture of the jihadess, which according to CNN was pulled from her K-1 finance visa application.
BREAKING: First photo of #SanBernardino terror suspect Tashfeen Malik obtained by @ABC: https://t.co/SR8kknqHhK pic.twitter.com/hV9Qi8eiPk
— ABC News (@ABC) December 4, 2015
Malik was here on a finance visa and whoever processed her application didn’t bother to verify the address she provided.
Excuse me? pic.twitter.com/LQoPdiIJNf
— Justin Ellis (@_JustinEllis) December 4, 2015
The FBI also had a theory about the couple’s baby.
Fmr. FBI Profiler: Baby may have been 'prop' for terrorists https://t.co/FhUYgfCQV9 #TheLead #SanBernardino
— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) December 4, 2015
The press conference. The family’s lawyers were… interesting.
Farook family attorneys on #SanBernardino suspect: "None of the family knew of him being extreme or aggressive" or of having extremist views
— ABC News (@ABC) December 4, 2015
Farook family attorney says brothers in the family never saw Tashfeen Malik's face because she always wore a burka. pic.twitter.com/5fOC7f8Q8E
— ABC News (@ABC) December 4, 2015
These guys have practiced law for 10 years and are whining about a four hour interview with the FBI.
— Kemberlee Kaye (@KemberleeKaye) December 4, 2015
These lawyers though pic.twitter.com/z2mHGbkZxk
— Tyler Hunter (@tylerhunter23) December 4, 2015
Pretty much this:
POTUS: There's no ISIS threat
FBI: This was terrorism
DoJ: Our big worry is anti-Muslim backlash
Media: *trashes crime scene*
— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) December 4, 2015
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NPR had a woman who called it, saying that Muslims should be turning out in droves to say that terrorism is unacceptable to them. She said she was Iranian, and her family fled Iran due to the country being taken over by Islam. She said there are people living near her (LA) who telegraph Islam with their dress, and they scare her.
She interrupted the gun control discussion.
In the minds of the LibDems their dreams of reviving an assault weapons ban have been given new life by this terrorist attack. They are all reading from the same talking points, especially Weakened at Bernie and Shrillary. Meanwhile Americans just set a new single day record for gun sales, based on NICS checks conducted on Black Friday. The American public is scared that the gummint won’t protect them so they are arming. How do the LibDems expect to sell their gun control agenda at next years’ election?
Most frightening in all this, is Loretta Lynch’s statement (you can bet at the urging of Jarrett/Obama) that she would “take aggressive action against anyone who used ‘anti-Muslim rhetoric’ that ‘edges toward violence.'”
Lynch said HER GREATEST FEAR is the “incredibly disturbing rise of anti-Muslim rhetoric.”
Imagine? (Well, you don’t have to – she said it.)
Yea, cause ya know all of us violent white right wingers often crowd the streets for a good lynching.
I used to think that we couldn’t sink any lower than Eric Holder, I was so very wrong.
Loretta also opined that the shootings were a “wonderful opportunity and a wonderful moment” to make significant change.
You can bet your ass that “change” will involve infringing on the rights of citizens while doing nothing to thwart terrorism.
The NYT, you’ll be shocked to learn, has her back:
Why does everyone keep calling the Colorado Springs shooting a “Planned Parenthood” shooting? The guy was crazy, so the logic is lacking. He was trying to rob a bank, but he became distracted and started shooting. As he went down the street shooting people, he ducked into Planned Parenthood for cover. That is how it happened, if various news accounts are to be believed. Yet, I wasn’t there.
Its called the “Planned Parenthood” shooting because the left has no sense of honor or ethics and will use anything, including outright lies to try to promote their agenda. In this case they are trying to make PP look like a victim because they realize that the pendulum is swinging back in the other direction and PP is on the verge of loosing its funding.
That is the same thing that causes them to constantly look like fools when one of these incidents happens and they immediately start the; “Its obviously a right wing hate monger” even though they have been wrong every single time.
Wish we knew for sure that it started out as a bank robbery. So far, haven’t seen anything official about a timeline for the event, or where it actually started. Some blogs have mentioned it started at the bank- but no MSM outlet has pursued that. Almost as if both the MSM and the authorities don’t want the public to know where it started, or why, but only where it ended up- where there were no victims. All the victims were outside the PP building, which is odd if it were the target.
“but no MSM outlet has pursued that.”
Of course they haven’t, we can’t go disrupting the narrative now can we.
So the landlord let people into the house after the FBI had sealed it? Well, “you can’t fix stupid”.
By stupid, you mean the FBI right? Because no reasonable law enforcement agency would leave documents and photographs laying around waiting to be rifled through and claim they closed the crime scene before they made a formal declaration that it was a terrorism investigation.
It’s almost as if they didn’t want to really investigate.
I watched this live on FNC this morning. The ignorance displayed by Gregg Jarrett is astounding and he should be fired. I wonder how many people came away believing this nonsense that manufacturers sell rifle on which a “bullet button” turns a California compliant AR into a fully automatic “assault weapon”.
Well, time to write a request for a retraction, guess I know what I am doing tonight.
Has there been any update on the third suspect?
I think they have changed that particular point and said it was just these 2.
Related, but on a tangent. Has Child Protective Services, or whatever they call it in CA, taken custody yet off the newly orphaned child? News reports are that the child was left with it’s grandmother. The one who raised a child who shot up a Christmas party and killed 14 people. That’s evidence enough to me and T.C. Mits that she’s unfit to raise a child, and that the child needs to be taken from her and put up for adoption.
For those that haven’t read Heinlein, T.C. Mits, the common man in the streets. If I had posted this on another website I comment on, I wouldn’t explain…
I read something today that said the baby might not even be real, it may have just been a prop. Also read that no one in the family had ever seen the woman’s face because she always wore a hajib.
Was she ever even pregnant? Did she ever even have a baby or did she borrow one from somebody in Pakistan/Saudi Arabia/whatever terrorist hellhole she hailed from?
This vetting process is great.
Now the FBI director is using the word “terrorism” instead of “workplace violence”. He must not have gotten the the memo from the White House.
I think he’s still on Barry Hussein’s leash. There’s no evidence yet that he’s conducting a serious investigation. He let the crime scene get ransacked. As Sanddog pointed out above, “It’s almost as if they didn’t want to really investigate.” He won’t admit that there was a trail of red flags that the FBI didn’t follow.
He had to say the “T” word to save face. Barry already looks like such a moron, the Dems must be screaming at him to show a smidgen of sanity.
Will anyone in the MSM or the White House call it Islamic Terrorism. Because so far, they’re only willing to call it “Federal Terrorism”.
Our Beltway Betters aren’t willing to name the enemy, and when you can’t name the enemy, you’ve already lost.
Oh they’ve named THEIR enemies alright…. Republicans, The Tea Party, Conservatives.
Attorney Chesley doesn’t like Britney Spears music, but he faps to her videos.
When I listen to Obama or the MSM, why do I think of this old Chico Marx line from the 1933 movie Duck Soup?
“Well, who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?”
Next thing you will hear of our esteemed AG is that this nations new biggest threat will come from hard working retired white Methodist women with blue hair who generally attend bingo at the church on Thursdays and who bake cookies for their grandkids.
Well, Wm, you didn’t know your bright classmate Lynch was such a radical, did you?
The Farook family didn’t know that Syed held extreme views because they don’t consider his views extreme. Syed believed what every good Muslim does:
1. Kill the Jews and Christians and everybody else if they refuse to convert to Islam;
2. Violent jihad in the way of Allah is the duty and responsibility of every Muslim;
3. If a Muslim dies while making jihad and killing Jews, Christians, and everybody else, he gets into paradise, has all the virgin and boy sex he can handle, and earns indulgences for his family so they can meet up with his in the brothel that is Islamic paradise.
4. Taqqiyah is as Islamic as boy banging, so it is the duty of Muslims to lie to others so that they are not persecuted or made to experience discomfort in any way.
Syed’s sister has connections to Jamaat-e-Islami of the Red Mosque and received a Certificate of Appreciation from them. The whole family has terrorist connections. So, saying they didn’t know? Gimme a break!
If you’ll forgive me, but from here it looks like one of those “reality shows”!
There is something very, very wrong going on here when the perps’ apartment is allowed to be ransacked by the media. At any time, let alone within 72 hours of the crime.
The stench here is incredibly strong. Lots of questions, no good answers.
Tasffeen Malik actually was living in Saudi Arabia. She took a trip to Pakistan to apply for the visa. The address even in Pakistan was changed in a way so as not to trigger any alarms.
Note: When other people attempt to immigrate from Pakistan on fiance visas, approval is often held up, while it stays in “adminsitrative processing”
Her approval went right through.
The fix was probably in.
She is reported to be an associate of the imam of the “red mosque”
If the fix was in, that may why she travelled back to Pakistan, where she did not live, to apply. It is not necessary, I believe , to apply in your own country, but that way the Saudi Arabian government would not be asked if theer was anything bad about her that they knew.
The Red Mosque is one of the very few places that violent female jihadists have been connected to, and they also have some official support or connections.
See article: (just read between the lines there)
There’s something peculiar about this whole thing:
Everything about the background of these two says Original al Qaeda ® ™, yet at the end, she swears allegiance to ISIS, and the attack itself also resembles what ISIS/ISIL/Daesh/IS/Islamic State/”the” Islamic State/Whatchamacallit is doing right now.
What this means is that either the loyalty pledge to ISIS was made to throw off the trail, or (in the event this was not intended to be discovered, and was only for her) that neither al Qaeda nor ISIS did it, but some organization that supports both of them. Their superiors, you might say.
It is typical for Islamic terrorist organizations to splinter. Sort of like spltting pairs in blackjack. Different tactics can be tried, and if something fails, it doesn’t destroy everything
Note: al Qaeda has lately taken to distinguishing itself from ISIS by saying that they do not kill Moslems. Back in 2012 or so, Zawahiri tried to order Baghdadi to stop doing things that give al Qaeda very bad publicity, like videotaped executions or Moslems as victims, because it was counter-productive and causing very bad repercussions for al Qaeda, and that was part of the reason for the split. In hostage type attacks, which al Qaeda endorses, the hostages now are asked if they are Moslems, and if they say yes, asked to recite something in Arabic that all Moslems should know. The Shabab, which Farook was in contact with, does this. But in this attack in San Bernadino, one of the people shot was the wife of the program director of the mosque that Syed Rizwan Farook attended in Riverside from 2012 to 2014 Shooting people at random cannot be guaranteed to hit only non-Moslems, of course. This kind of attack also is typical of what ISIS has started doing in the last year (prior to that they were not doing terrorist attacks outside their zone of control.)
The style of attack was 2015 ISIS, and there was ths loyalty pledge right at the time of the attack, but all their associations say al Qaeda!!
There’s something very important the United States government does not know.