“Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu rejects Donald Trump’s recent remarks about Muslims”
When YUUUGE personalities collide
This should be interesting.
When two over-sized personalities collide, neither of whom is known for backing down.
On Twitter and Facebook, Benjamin Netanyahu just released the following statement:
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu rejects Donald Trump's recent remarks about Muslims.
— PM of Israel (@IsraeliPM) December 9, 2015
Prime Minister Netanyahu rejects Donald Trump’s recent remarks about Muslims.
The State of Israel respects all religions and strictly guarantees the rights of all its citizens. At the same time, Israel is fighting against militant Islam that targets Muslims, Christians and Jews alike and threatens the entire world.
As for the meeting with Mr. Trump that was set some two weeks ago, the Prime Minister decided earlier this year on a uniform policy to agree to meet with all presidential candidates from either party who visit Israel and ask for a meeting.
This policy does not represent an endorsement of any candidate or his or her views. Rather, it is an expression of the importance that Prime Minister Netanyahu attributes to the strong alliance between Israel and the United States.
[Featured Image: Netanyahu campaign ad]
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Bibi needs some good press, so he’s taking an easy pot shot. That’s politics.
Reality is that any nation that wants to survive must be willing to identify and neutralize threats, even if those threats are protected by all the rhetorical support the Left can muster. Israel does this. We should too.
Sorry, Netanyahu, but you and everyone else routinely exclude individuals based on class affiliation or allegiance. [Commonly held] principles matter. Even in a State with a pro-choice (i.e. selective principles) cult (e.g. America), there are orientations and behaviors that are consistent over time and space.
But nothing so overly broad as all Moslems, at least when there are good reasons foir allowing them.
When Israel imposes security restrctions for moslems praying in Jerusalem or coming in to work it does not apply to those over the age 50, or married men – theer are different degbrtees of security.
I do not propose indiscriminate restrictions, and I note an inclusive behavior that is not limited to Israel.
That said, at one time principals ostensibly mattered. Perhaps with the adoption of a pro-choice philosophy, that is no longer a legitimate means to classify people. It’s all very selective, and a individual’s philosophy, principles, and allegiance may no longer be predictive of behaviors.
Is there some legal or moral obligation to accept any immigrants from anywhere, regardless of their values and objectives?
It used to be that we favored immigrants with values and habits that would fit into the existing culture without too much strain. For some decades now, our government (and particularly Democrats) have been favoring immigrants with quite different values, and encouraging them to maintain their own “culture.” That is not a formula for cultural survival; it is an attack on the basic American culture.
It’s particularly reckless to bring in large numbers of people who wish to see the U.S. Constitution replaced with sharia, and who believe that “insulting” their “prophet” ought to be outlawed, and even punishable by death. The proportion of Muslims who hold those beliefs is not small.
Do we have an obligation to hand over our civilization to a hostile belief system, as European elites have been doing? Is feeling good about our own “tolerance” worth that price?
No.
Except when they’re guaranteed to vote democrat.
“When two over-sized personalities collide, neither of whom is known for backing down.”
You mean like Winston Churchill and Huey P. Long…???
I love Bibi. He is making it clear that Israel is the one we should look to as a model of how to address the evil that lurks among us. They are both open and alert. They’ve built walls, created their Iron Dome, and go to great effort to thwart domestic terrorists.
And, I am glad Bibi made it clear he is not endorsing Trump, but is welcoming to any and all candidates who come to Israel and ask to meet. What a wonderful leader.
That’s what a statesman looks like.
So then both agree strong wall and restrictions. Good to know.
Bibi can welcome Ted Cruz who declared that Saddam Hussein should have been left in power. No problem except for Israel who was subjected to constant scud missile attacks. Citizens, men, women and children terrorized by the prospect of being gassed to death. Rushing to shelters, putting their infants into protective gas masks every single day. And then we had the dear leader paying the families of the terrorists a bounty for their good deeds.
Sorry, Mr. Cruz, you are WRONG WRONG WRONG about the virtue of leaving SH in power.
It was Bush Sr’s attack on Hussein that exposed Israel to SCUDs. So long as Hussein was not being attacked there were no SCUDs.
Great, can we put Israel down for 100,000 Syrian refugees then?
No, they only take wounded Syrians who need good hospital treatment, plus some family members that might be needed to care for them, and only until they are cured and be safely released from the hospital.
The wounded Syrians, sometimes soldiers, sometimes moderate jihadists, are often brought right up to the border.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/12/09/dramatic-video-shows-israeli-special-ops-rescue-wounded-jihadists-in-syria-saving-their-sworn-enemy/
That goes down as a contender for the stupidest thing said on an LI thread this week.
Which is really bad when you’re posting with Gary (the liar) Britt…!!!
Another factless and thoughtless post from a chidish chickenshit Rags so terrified of owning up in real life to his 5th grade posts he wants $10000 and nondisclosure agreements rather than risk people finding the truth about his age (he’s 12) that he is a liar when he claims to be a lawyer (he isn’t even a college graduate) or that he was convicted of having illegal sex in an outhouse with Jerry Falwells ghost.
If you don’t like me telling the truth about you Ragsn then sue me Bitch.
Great, can we put Israel down for 100,000 Syrian refugees then?
Bingo.
In a week where NYT OpEds should be about how astoundingly terrible Obama’s foreign AND domestic policies have been, instead we’re talking about a blathering New Yorker who is not a conservative.
I absolutely hate conspiracy theories. But I find it amazing that Trump has this ability to pivot what everyone is talking about at the critical moments for the current President and his party. It would be one thing if Trump used his media influence to keep attacking Obama’s foreign policy on its merits or lack thereof. Instead he keeps delivering them the sound bites they desperately crave, while forcing the rest of the party to atone for what he says.
I’ve said it before here, and I’ll say it again. He’s no conservative, has ‘evolved’ on issues more frequently than Hilldawg, and in an election against an old, decrepit political party, he is Redbull™ to Democrats.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/12/09/jeb-bush-jokes-of-trump-clinton-conspiracy-theory-heres-a-look-at-the-evidence/?hpid=hp_no-name_morning-mix-story-e%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
I just heard another Trump-bot say there’s absolutely nothing that Trump could do or say that would shake his fervent support. That is a cultist attitude, not a thoughtful assessment of a candidate.
Trump-bots will pounce on any little defect they see in any other candidate, but they give Trump a blanket absolution for all his sins and inconsistencies.
One Trump-bot said that Cruz was unacceptable because of some association with the eeeevil Bush (“RINO”) administration. That was when Trump was helping Democrats get elected and saying that Hillary would be a “terrific” president. But Trump-bots always excuse him for everything.
One obvious reason for the personality cult is that people like to associate themselves with a big TV celebrity and tell themselves that he really cares about them.
Not true. If Trump accomplished one thing – one thing only, and it’s massive: it’s was breaking the strangehold on leftist ‘political correctness.’
There is a reason that s-bag Boehner was run out of town on a rail: the rise of Trump. That’s Trumps cherry on top.
Boehner isn’t around because of Trump? Yikes, that’s one hell of a stretch. Have fun blindly following a man straight into Hillary’s oval office.
Netanyahu just sports a better filter than Trump. He could teach The Donald a thing or ten about border fences, profiling, domestic security and cross-border return fire. Netanyahu has some experience with Islam. Rule one is apparently to never speak it’s name.
The purpose of profiling is NOT to establish guilt, or treat people as guilty.
Profiling can only be used to establish, or impute, innocence.
so which recent remarks does he reject ? no specifics … pretty tame rejection …
Who knows if Netanyahoo is reponding to what Trump really said or what some liberal reporter told him he said.
I heart Bibi. That said, THEY HAVE A WALL. Israel MONITORS and tracks incoming people.
USA IS NOT.
Yugggge difference. Once a WALL is built, USA laws are ACTUALLY ENFORCED. THEN, you can resume importing LEGAL immigrants.
The influx of illegals and terrorists freely in to USA MUST stop. Trump is ONLY leader/candidate discussing these hard truths.
Discuss them we must.
As for the American people tgey overwhelmingly support the Trump temporary ban.
Almost two-thirds of likely 2016 Republican primary voters favor Donald Trump’s call to temporarily ban Muslims from entering the U.S., while more than a third say it makes them more likely to vote for him.
Note 2/3’s support for Trump’s temporary ban on Muslim immigration despite the pollsters trying everything to talk supporters out of supporting Trump and 36 hours of non stop media and brain dead GOPe bashing of Trump’s common sense plan.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-09/bloomberg-politics-poll-trump-muslim-ban-proposal
GOPe and Liberal heads are exploding as we speak but for regular people Trump’s plan is just plain common sense.
Cruz has gone farther down as my possible second choice because of his not realizing and supporting outright Trump’s common sense temporary muslim immigration ban.
You purrrrrr mow-ron.
The “American people” are NOT “likely GOP voters”.
No wonder you have trouble with concepts like “average”…!!!
Too bad nobody polled against the much better Paul and Cruz plans. Which most Americans likely have not heard for the blow-hard’s multiple “plans”, including the one what citizens were not to come back.
Is that really a “plan,” or something he’s just throwing out to start the “negotiations,” which is how some Trump fans are characterizing it?
Until now, most Trump fans have claimed he’s the only candidate who will do everything he says, without compromise — a belief for which they do not have supporting evidence, and which is undercut by Trump’s inconsistencies.
Now the argument is that “he’s a negotiator!” who overstates his intent and then works down to what he can get — which is something that Trump-bots excoriate when any politician other than Trump does it.
“Now the argument is that “he’s a negotiator!”
Apparently Cruz thinks so since he has said he would hire Trump to do the negotiating.
And build the wall.
Ryan wants to do for the GOPe what he did for Romney and the Walker presidential campaign.
Ryan sucks.
He is Squeaker II.
New Fox Poll out tonight in South Carolina:
Trump 35%, Carson 15%, Rubio 14%, Cruz 14%
Even better news confirming predictions regarding the common sense temporary ban on Muslim immigration by Trump, For the days this poll was conducted AFTER Trump announced the need for temporary ban so we could figure out what the heck is going on, Trump polled at 38%.
I said yesterday he would be at 40% within two weeks. Might be just a matter of days Trump is at 40%.
BTW, Trump polling at 38% in SC AFTER “the ban press release” is UP 8% over prior Fox SC poll…
Read it and weep Ryan you giant dip stick.
When it comes to Ryan and the GOPe cowards who couldn’t wait to run to the microphones and genuflect to the left wing media by denouncing Trump’s very reasonable and limited temporary ban, the words of Col Ralph Peters for President Obama come to mind.
T-rump goes full Obama on Israel.
That’ll cost him!
Heh…!!!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/674924540347195392
Six years ago, a retired FBI agent told me that some of the best sources for stopping a domestic terror attack are tips from citizens. American Muslims provide good tips on potential Islamist-inspired terrorists. They know their community. Counterterrorism isn’t cops on the beat, but there are similarities.
That made sense to me. In 2003, I had a cup of coffee with an Arab Muslim friend of mine. I asked him for an update on The Quest — his long pursuit of a permanent resident green card. He sighed and then said, softly, “There are 25,000 Arab Muslim men in my group (green card applicants), (and) 24,991 of them are like me, Austin. We know what it is like — to live in fear of terrorists, criminals, dictators. We left to come here … to get away from them. But the other nine? They are very dangerous people.” He paused and then added, with unmistakable resignation, “I guess that’s just my lot in life.”
I heard the resignation and told him I could vouch for him. No need. His attorney told him to continue to work hard and wait.
I asked him where he got the number “nine.” I knew he meant potential terrorists and spies. He thought for a moment and then replied: “Well … it seems about right. There are not many (violent Islamist extremists). … They’re crazy, you know.” We explored his gut estimate. If nine out of 25,000 is right, then we’ve got 90 in 250,000. Ninety heavily armed fanatics can seize a city. Yes, “very dangerous people.”
He eventually secured his green card. Then he went to Iraq as a translator. He is very proud of that service. A few weeks ago, he wrote me an email and said he expects to become a citizen at some time next year.
We need to do a better job vetting immigrants. That isn’t bigotry; that’s sanity. However, loyal, responsible immigrants strengthen America. Americans who happen to be Muslims are — like my friend — a key line of defense in stopping Islamic State-influenced terror attacks.
http://www.strategypage.com/on_point/2015120901828.aspx
Bibi, who is nobody’s fool, knows that some of his most loyal constituents, and IDF soldiers, are Muslims.
Just like here.
It isn’t just terrorists who are a problem, or even the moderates who may later become “extreme,” or have offspring who are more radical, as has been the pattern in Europe.
There’s also the much larger cohort that pressures the rest of us to change our own culture to conform with Islamic rules, starting with prohibitions on what we may say (or draw); and whether a business has a right to set an employee dress code; and whether cab drivers will pick up a blind passenger with a guide dog; and whether kids get to eat ham and sausages at school; etc.
In the UK, Oxford University Press recently banned pigs in children’s books. A British woman was ordered to remove pig figurines from her kitchen window. People have been ordered to remove St. George’s Cross flags. A woman in Austria was subjected to a long court ordeal for saying something unflattering (but documented) about Muhammad.
Muslims have attacked non-Muslims for eating ham sandwiches in their presence, or eating during Ramadan. Even in the U.S., people have been denied a glass of water at a public meeting during Ramadan.
It isn’t a handful of terrorists who have been oppressing non-Muslims in these ways; it’s average Muslims (rather than merely nominal Muslims).
Sweden is now the rape capital of the world because of the Muslim male attitude toward “infidel” women. Practically every major European city now has dangerous neighborhoods — the ones dominated by Muslims. In Tower Hamlets, there have been sharia patrols warning infidels that they must observe Islamic law there.
The new Muslim majority on the city council of Hamtramck has already made ominous pronouncements about who’s now in charge. Elsewhere, a Muslim parent, angry about the school’s decision not to close for Islamic holidays, declared “WE will soon be the majority here!”
The reality of Europe today (along with incidents here) makes it abundantly clear that letting large numbers of Muslims settle in Western societies is destructive even if there aren’t conspicuous terrorist attacks.
My apologies for shooting fish in a barrel:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/opinion-polls.htm
I’m willing to bet I have more muslim friends than anyone commenting here, having traveled and worked in numerous muslim countries. My friends are all very peaceful and kind people. They are also a minority, and will tell you exactly that.
The muslim community provides no help at all:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/07/fmr-fbi-counterterrorism-agent-weve-received-nearly-zero-help-from-u-s-muslim-community-since-911/
If T-rump needs a total ban on Muslims to “figure things out”, he’s a total moron.
Like some of his supporters.
Rags, you used to be my favorite commenter. Now you’re just too arrogant and obnoxious to read. A shame.
Rags is ignorant. He knows nothing about muslims, muslim countries, or the hatred large numbers of them have for each other, and for the west.
The USA has many very fine Islamic men and women. The vast majority are. They are apostates. The hordes of muslims coming to the west are vastly different. They intend to turn every country possible into the same shithole they left. they are an invasion force. Among them are some nice people. Make no mistake, large numbers are not.
Yah, Bibi and I don’t know nuf-fin.
Barry’s the expert. He knows real Muslims, doncha know! More than youse shlubs.
Funny thing, Barry has to fight a straw man to get his ego boost. I’m not for massive immigration of ANYBODY.
Rags confuses himself with hitler and napoleon and now Bibi.
Bibi is the leader of a country with decades of leadership experience in war time conditions.
Rags is an ignorant, rude, internet windbag of such little importance in life he has to lie and pretend to be a lawyer to puff himself up.
Bibi and I have several things in common.
Rejection of the T-rump stupid is one. Along with MOST conservatives.
Gary (the liar) Britt has only one retort; lies in ad hominem. He knows he’s lying, and so do all the rest of those here.
And that’s simply pathetic. But a GREAT exemplar of a T-rump sucker!
Bibi, Bibi, Bibi. Don’t be a hypocrite.
New CBS poll out today (note these new numbers don’t include the bump Trump will get from temp muslim immigration ban).
Thirty-five percent of Republican primary voters support Trump, up 13 points since October, and his highest level of support in CBS News polling. Ted Cruz (16 percent) has moved into second place, while Ben Carson, who led the October poll, has dropped to third.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-donald-trump-top-ted-cruz-second-hillary-clinton-over-bernie-sanders/
Trump is not a politician. He is a revolutionary leading a revolution against two of the most hated, corrupt and dangerous intuitions in this country: the elite political class and a rotted, fat, comfortable, left-wing DC Media that has set the politically correct rules for presidential campaigns in such a way that our country is falling apart.
Power to the people.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/10/trump-hits-new-high-of-35-anti-establishment-surges-to-65/
Fuck you Netanyahu.
If Muslims are so great, why don’t you open the borders for unlimited Muslim immigration into your country.
Why should the USA take Syians when the neighbors of the Syrians wolnt?
Because Syria, and Iraq for that matter, is still officially at war with Israel. No country on earth will take in its enemy citizens as refugees. Furthermore Israel has treated over a thousand Syrian war wounded at its own expense – which is a whole lot more than tje USA has done.
Thirdly Israel is not asking the US to take in Syrian refugees. So why the fury at Bibi?
Bibi was only condemning Trump’s frankly ridiculous and impractical suggestion to ban all Muslim immigration. It is both unfair and totally unfeasible. For starters how can you tell someone’s religion just from their countrymof orogin? I oresume you do know that there are many Christian refugees fleeing Syria and Iraq would you ban them too? How would you know who is a genuine aaChristian and who a Muslim?
“Trump’s frankly ridiculous and impractical suggestion to ban all Muslim immigration”
Except that isn’t Trumps plan. His plan is a perfectly reasonable temporary halt while vetting process is improved.
Yes there are some difficulties with implementation of plan but that is not a reason to not implement a very good idea.
Good executives don’t let the perfect become the enemy of tbe good.
Despite how horrible Obama is for Israel and many other things he won’t be around much longer. Without Truman and USA Israel wouldn’t exist so save the pretense of moral superiority, and BTW Trump’s supporters are the biggest supporters of Israel in the world.
You and I can disagree on Trump’s plan till the cows come home. At the moment he is not President, he is not even a politician so anything he says is purely for media attention. He is a jumped-up salesman with a rude attitude, a bullying and boorish way about him and with a very loud mouth who is an attention whore, and is ruining it for the other Republican candidates and for the Republicans in general.
As soon as the conversation shifts away from him he says something controversial, just like a naughty 2-year old who just cannot bear not being the center of attention.
That’s how it looks to me from a distance of several thousand miles. You are quite entitled to your opinions, and I’m sure your opinions are more likely to hold sway in America than mine. For starters I can’t vote in America…
However I strongly resent and totally reject your accusation of my (or is it Israel’s?) “pretense of moral superiority”. Who is claiming moral superiority??
If you are referring to Bibi, is he not allowed to reject or condemn anything uttered by a foreign personality? Do you think every Israeli PM has to agree with EVERY statement uttered by EVERY American politician?? You really are out of your mind if that is how you think the world works.
If you are referring to my own opinion, well, it’s a free world and a free internet (for the moment) and I am as entitled to mine as you are to yours. Israel has a lot more experience with Muslims than America does, and I would think that Bibi’s opinions are more realistic than Trump’s.
Added to that, there is still another whole year of Obama to get through. Why alienate him still further? Who knows if Trump will ever get into power?
Anyway, it’s not as if Bibi said Trump can’t come to Israel. Bibi rejected his words, not his presence or person. That’s a good deal more gracious than the way he has been treated by your own administration.
Yes, maybe – maybe – without Truman and the USA Israel wouldn’t have existed. But do not forget that the US had an effective arms embargo on Israel until after 1967. And the US almost let Israel perish in 1973 in the Yom Kippur war until Golda threatened to “bring the house down”.
Even if we take Truman’s support at face value, that was nearly 70 years ago. To extend that to the present day reveals your own level of ignorance. There are times when America’s “help” is so much of a hindrance to Israel that one could wonder on whose side they really are.
Excellent. And amen.
There is nothing to disagree on regarding Trump’s plan. Your description is not factually correct. You are entitled to your own opinion just not your own facts.
The reference to pretense of moral superiority was clearly to you personally.
As for Bibi I completely understand why he did what he did for the same reasons you stated. It was purely a necessary pitical calculation on his part. I and Trump’s supporters like and support Bibi especially over the liberal Israeli alternatives to him.
70 years ago or not there would be no Israel without Truman and USA. You’re welcome.
I agree with you that the USA has under some presidents tried too hard to be in the middle between Israel and palestinians. My own personal opinions on these issues had a huge wake up call after watching palestinians on rooftops cheering the 9/11 attacks. My personal opinion is that the USA should halt all aid to palestinians immediately, and that we should tell them there will never be another penny until they cease all violence and attacks for 6 months to one year, swear off all violence against Israel, recognize Israel’s right to exist as a jewish state, stop teaching all the violent and racist anti-jewish anti-Israeli propoganda in their schools.
As regards your opinions of Mr. Trump, they couldn’t be more wrong but are typical of left wingers in both USA and Israel that have little understanding of real entrepreneurs compared to their love and understanding of socialists and communists.
Nothing shows the curious confusion of Jewish people more than their voting overwhelmingly for an obvious a nti-semite muslim loving anti Israel socialist/communist Obama TWICE.
Here is a screengrab from the ABC News report of President Carter’s Iran speech – with a TV caption reading “prohibiting immigration.”
This was from ABC’s coverage of Democratic President Jimmy Carter’s April 7th, 1980 speech, regarding US cutting relations with the Khomeinist regime in Iran.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/now-theres-video-jimmy-carter-bans-iranian-immigrants-from-us-deported-students-during-hostage-crisis/
Truman did nothing to help Israel be established. Israel would have become independent on exactly the same date and time, and would have fared exactly as well, without Truman’s so-called support. The weapons it needed to defend itself did not come from Truman but from Stalin! Truman did everything in his power to disarm the Jews so they would be slaughtered.
And no, Carter did not prohibit Moslem immigration. Moslems from any country but Iran were welcome. He stopped the issue of new visas to citizens of a single country that had committed an act of war against the USA. Except, that is, for the thousands of refugees that he admitted, which is why there is now a Teherangeles. Nor did he deport all Iranians; only the ones that were here illegally, and thus were subject to deportation anyway.
He also kicked out Iran’s ambassadors to the U.S., imposed sanctions, and seized funds.
But the irony of Gary (the liar) Britt ALSO citing approvingly to Carter, in addition to FDR, should not be lost on conservatives.
Heh…!!!
You are absolutely wrong Millhouse. If not for Truman and the USA Israel would have never been recognized as a country and admitted into the U.N. Without recognition as a country and admission into the U.N. the Israeli freedom fighters would have just continued to be terrorists fighting a civil war in Palestine.
Knowledge is a powerful thing.
First of all Gary Britt, you actually made me laugh out loud when you equated me with Leftist progressive Jews. Seriously, LMAO! I am an Orthodox right-wing Zionist Jew living in Israel. I think I know Israel’s mood and opinions slightly better than you do. But whatever… think what you like. I just wanted to set the record straight.
As for Truman, his recognition of Israel’s establishment, and how Israel would have fared, here is some interesting reading material for you to get your teeth into and maybe get an education, although Milhouse above has done his best, to no avail.
http://www.mideastweb.org/us_supportforstate.htm
A short excerpt:
When did he say that, and what did he dsay and has was it understood?
He surely could not have used such words after 1945, and anyway he was on the outs at that time, and the British would not have been dealing with him.
So he would have said that in 1937 or so.
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_independence_recognition_us.php
Here is more in the same vein. Please note that despite the way the “zionist influence” is mentioned in the article, I fully approve of such. Good for them!
And one more:
http://www.sullivan-county.com/islam/israel1948.htm