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Fleeing blue state taxpayers should leave their blue politics behind

Fleeing blue state taxpayers should leave their blue politics behind

Remember why you fled in the first place.

http://knowmore.washingtonpost.com/2015/04/01/how-a-great-american-migration-to-california-reversed-itself/

A newly published study shows taxpayers are (still) abandoning blue states and heading to states where Republicans retain a greater level of influence.

Leah Jessen of the Daily Signal reported:

Study: Taxpayers Are Leaving Democrat-Run States for States Controlled by Republicans

In an analysis of Internal Revenue Service income statistics and migration data, Americans for Tax Reform—an advocacy group for lower and simpler taxes—concluded that in 2013 more than 200,000 taxpayers fled states with a Democrat governor to states with Republicans in control.

The analysis shows that in 2013 states run by Democrats lost 226,763 taxpayers while Republican-run states gained about 220,000 new taxpayers.

The state with the most growth in new taxpayers? Texas.

The state, governed by Republican Rick Perry during the 2012-2013 year, saw a positive net migration of 152,477 people. “Texas accounted for more than half of the net migration into the South,” the IRS reports.

The IRS report can be seen here.

John Stossel reported on this phenomena back in 2013, noting that two million people left California for Texas between 2000 and 2010.

Watch:

This is good and bad news.

The good news is that it shows conservative policies are more attractive to taxpayers. The bad news is that this type of migration can change states politically. The New York Times reported in 2014:

Of course, not all blue-state migrants are liberal. And people’s political views can change over time. But enough of the migrants have the views of their home states to have made a difference. It’s no accident that the places in once-red states where migrants have tended to settle — like the Virginia suburbs of Washington, the Research Triangle of North Carolina and the Denver metro area — are the places that have allowed Democrats to overcome huge deficits elsewhere in those states. Many of these migrants are Northeastern Democrats.

New Hampshire used to be a reliably red state, but years of migration to southern New Hampshire by liberals from Massachusetts who brought their politics with them has shifted the Granite State which went to Obama in the last two elections.

Fleeing Californians post an even greater risk in places like Colorado, Nevada and even Texas. See Featured Image.)

http://knowmore.washingtonpost.com/2015/04/01/how-a-great-american-migration-to-california-reversed-itself/

A similar argument could be made about Virginia.

Americans for Tax Reform also picked up on this study and broke it down by the numbers:

Taxpayers Crown Winner of America’s Biggest Loser: New York

The phenomenal failure of New York to retain taxpayers and businesses is directly related to its uncompetitive tax and business climates.

By some measures, New Yorkers face the greatest tax burden of any state in the nation. The personal income tax system consists of eight brackets and a top rate of 8.82%. The corporate tax of 7.1% and property tax collections are $2435 per person. The Tax Foundation ranked New York 50th until this year after a set of minor tax reductions.

In 2013, New York had the largest population losses to the following states:

  • Florida -20,465 (-$1.35 billion)
  • New Jersey -16,223 (-$1.1 billion)
  • Texas -10,784 (-$354 million)
  • North Carolina -9,070 ($294 million)
  • California -7,849 (-$200 million)

All of this begs the obvious question: If the Democratic Party’s policies are so great, why do taxpayers flee them if they have the means to do so?  And why do they then vote for the same policies that made them flee their home states in the first place?

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“Remember why you fled in the first place”

The state closest to me where this good advice was tossed away is New Hampshire which today is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Massachusetts-branded Liberalism, Inc.

PFG – you are correct. Please leave all the new age clap trap where it started. We do not need to create a Californian utopia in Texas….

That people should learn the lessons of what drove them out of their home state and act differently in their new state is perfectly logical and therefore will not happen.

Liberals do not understand cause and effect nor do they learn from experience. It is therefore pre-determined that when they come to a new place they will continue their destructive behavior.

There is some hope, however, that states may be partially protected from Liberal infusions by a culture that values heterosexual marriage, Christianity and the right to keep and bear arms. Liberals find these things so horrible that they will often choose to live somewhere else, even if it’s not ideal economically.

    rokiloki in reply to irv. | September 6, 2015 at 7:22 pm

    Liberalism is a form of insanity. They will keep demanding the same policies over and over again, each time expecting different results.

      Liberalism is a cult – and a very corrupt one.

      The deal is this: you have to surrender your vote, but you get a pass on making difficult decisions the rest of us have to do for you.

      Liberals sell their souls, and sell out their nations cheaply to fascist devils. But in return, the fascist devils they empower tell them their consciences are now deemed clear.

Liberalism is a disease that can’t be cured even when exposed to common-sense conservatives policies…

Leftwing politics is all about placing hope above experience, and they will never abandon hope. Instead they will continue to foul their nests, then move on to foul their neighbors’.

The people leaving D-ruled states have no problem with the politics or government of those states. On the contrary they’re very happen with them, and would continue to support and vote for them. The only reason they’re leaving is because for some completely unfathomable reason the economy inexplicably “turned bad”, perhaps there was a drought, or it was global warming, or the moon being in retrograde; in any case it was nothing the state government could have prevented. Or perhaps not even that, it’s just that they were presented with an opportunity that they couldn’t pass up, which just by the sheerest coincidence happened to be in a state with benighted politics. It could just as easily have been in a more enlightened state, it just this once happened not to be. They’re sure that similar opportunities present themselves to other people in states with good governments too. And of course bad economies strike Republican states, probably even more often than they do Democratic ones, it’s just that in their case it happened the other way. They really don’t understand that there is a causal link between D politics and bad economic outcomes, and R politics and good ones.

I coined this “Blue State Pollution” a few years ago in which Democrat voters behave similarly like a swarm of locusts.

First they deplete the surplus of their local wealth producers.

Then they tax and regulate what’s left of their economic ecology to desolation. But rather die in their self-inflicted famine, they migrate to economically greener pastures, insert themselves into local politics to begin their ruinous cycle.

I’ve just relocated to FL from NY and observed the connection between the influx of Democrats from the Northeast to FL and FL’s increasingly Swing nature.

That’s one way voters from solidly red states can make a difference. Don’t waste your vote in your state if there’s a guaranteed conservative majority. Consider relocating or retiring to swing states like FL to shore up the numbers.

these are the types…..

“It’s not because I don’t like paying taxes,” said Gardner, who attended both meetings. “I have voted for every park, every library, all the school improvements, for light rail, for anything that will make this city better. But now I can’t afford to live here anymore. I’ll protest my appraisal notice, but that’s not enough. Someone needs to step in and address the big picture.”

http://www.mystatesman.com/news/business/surge-in-property-tax-bills-spurs-push-to-reform-t/ngBXt/?icmp=statesman_internallink_textlink_apr2013_statesmanstubtomystatesman_launch#c710210c.3313332.735385

yeah…in Texas….(well, Austin)

    Milhouse in reply to rabid wombat. | September 6, 2015 at 3:21 pm

    Austin is not really Texas. It’s as if Ithaca was suddenly magically transported to an empty space in Texas.

      Fiftycaltx in reply to Milhouse. | September 6, 2015 at 5:41 pm

      Lived in Austin for about 40 years. Socialists bought into every stupid idea promoted. More freeways? NO! If we don’t build it, they won’t come. Now that the population has quadrupled, traffic jams are in the top 10 worst in the country. $120 million for a waste to electricity incinerator? RIGHT ON! Once the machinery was purchased, the greenies “discovered” how much pollution it would create. Sold it for about $.05 on the dollar. Never did figure out which crony got his pockets lined. My property tax was over $5000 a year for a 800 sq ft. house on a .19 acre lot. Fortunately I sold it for top dollar, paid off my bills and had enough to move to a CONSERVATIVE small town not far away. Austin is a hotbed of crony capitalism, aka FASCISM. Visit if you like, but don’t live there if you want “smaller government”.

Very few liberals ever learn better: For them, economic failure is always “bad luck”…except when it is the fault of “hoarders and wreckers”.

    As Venezuela circles the toilet drain, they’re *still* blaming the economic black hole on everyone/everything but themselves and their idiotic policies.

Here in Florida we are seeing a slow exodus of liberal Northeasterners leaving for the Carolinas. We call them halfbacks and we hope they never come back to Florida. They are not wanted.

    NC Mountain Girl in reply to natdj. | September 7, 2015 at 4:08 am

    We have them here in the mountains but many still maintain a place in Florida, too. Ir gets too cold here in the winter and North Carolina has an income tax while Florida doesn’t.

These numbers may have lots of zeros, but they’re still tiny. 200,000 taxpayers is negligible—something between one and two tenths of a percent of the national total.

    “…200,000 taxpayers is negligible—something between one and two tenths of a percent of the national total.”

    What relevance is the national total to the movement of populations out of a small group of states?

As long as they leave their pro-choice cult behind, there is room to negotiate in good faith. Whether it is congruence to selectively exclude orientations and behaviors not in found in the lackluster spectrum of the “rainbow”, or indiscriminate killing of [wholly innocent] human lives by the millions, the Left’s pro-choice cult is a threat to human viability and it’s bad for morale.

    Fiftycaltx in reply to n.n. | September 6, 2015 at 5:32 pm

    What women do with their body is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! If freedom to: whatever, is abhorrent, pack up and move to someplace that suits you. Like Saudi Arabia, Iran or N. Korea.

      Juba Doobai! in reply to Fiftycaltx. | September 6, 2015 at 7:12 pm

      It is our business because taxpayers wind up paying for it. We pay for the abortions. We pay for the emergency room visits and the health care. We pay for the welfare. We pay for the food stamps. We pay for the legal aid lawyers and prison costs. We pay for every danged thing that happens when a woman uses her body indiscriminately.

      Therefore, we have a right to demand that, as a form of birth control, women keep an aspirin between their knees.

      Voyager in reply to Fiftycaltx. | September 6, 2015 at 10:50 pm

      I believe the issue is that it is actually a different person’s body that she is doing it to. Generally one’s own body isn’t likely to get up and walk off at any point in the near, or not so near, future, after all.

      Milhouse in reply to Fiftycaltx. | September 6, 2015 at 10:59 pm

      What people do to themselves is nobody’s business, but what they do to other people is very much everyone’s business, even if those other people happen to be attached to them at the moment.

      “My body, my choice” is inherently anti-Christian. Christians believe our bodies belong to God.

Hitch was spot on about a number things including being against the Islamic Jihad against Salman Rushdie and of course, as mentioned, the Clintons.
Hitch, was spot off and petty when denigrating Mother Theresa and Christianity in toto.
A well-documented full-blown angry lascivious alcoholic atheist, Hitch no longer has the final word on anything.

    Holy Blue Politics, Batman. I’m redistributing comments!
    This comment was posted on the next post. That is almost like voting twice in Chicago.

    I need to flee Illinois. I love my state but, I hate the Blue politics of Mike Madigan and Rahm Emanuel! It is mind bending, wallet emptying.

    Tatatataa…Rahm wants to raise real estate taxes in Chicago because…that’s what Blue politics only knows and does! D’oh!!

If the Democratic Party’s policies are so great, why do taxpayers flee them if they have the means to do so?

Democrats flee Democrat-run states when they realize that it is not just other people’s money, but also their money that is increasingly being raided.

And why do they then vote for the same policies that made them flee their home states in the first place?

Democrats are incredibly stupid voters. They keep on doing the same stupid thing: voting for Democrats, and keep expecting different results.

When they get to Red Republican states, the stupid Democrats are convinced that the Red State Democrats won’t rob them like the Blue States ones did. So, they start the cycle again, refusing to acknowledge that it is Reoublican governance to which they are fleeing.

Maybe instead of building the fence at the Mexican border, we should build a fence -with a moat – around California. We also know several people who moved to New Hampshire from Taxachusettes and have contributed to the state’s decline into Moonbat Heaven. As for those of us in Florida, we are actually seeing an influx of Puerto Ricans fleeing the poverty, and will have the opportunity to flip this state blue in the next election.

NC Mountain Girl | September 7, 2015 at 4:11 am

There is a local version of this. As Asheville has been taken over by liberals from other states, native residents have been moving out of Buncombe county for the adjacent counties where the cost of living is lower and there are no topless SJWs in the town square.

What it says it that conservative policies build success and liberal policies destroy wealth.

Fleeing blue state taxpayers should leave their blue politics behind

What I don’t understand is why blue state conservatives fleeing blue state distopia are told to leave their politics behind, too.

WTF?

I hate californicators they have ruined my state and are ruining the rest of the country.

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