Trump versus Fox News fight: Who is more powerful?
Power of the candidiate versus power of the network
Today, Donald Trump renewed his public feud with Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly over comments made during the first GOP primary debate:
Trump repeated a claim on Twitter Monday night that Kelly is a ‘bimbo,’ and Fox chief Roger Ailes demanded an apology on Tuesday after the billionaire leveled a new series of attacks on Kelly during her first show following a lengthy break.
‘I liked The Kelly File much better without @megynkelly,’ Trump tweeted while she as on the air. ‘Perhaps she could take another eleven day unscheduled vacation!’
Fox News big wig Roger Ailes came out today with a statement demanding Trump apologize to Kelly:
“Donald Trump’s surprise and unprovoked attack on Megyn Kelly during her show last night is as unacceptable as it is disturbing. Megyn Kelly represents the very best of American journalism and all of us at FOX News Channel reject the crude and irresponsible attempts to suggest otherwise. I could not be more proud of Megyn for her professionalism and class in the face of all of Mr. Trump’s verbal assaults. Her questioning of Mr. Trump at the debate was tough but fair, and I fully support her as she continues to ask the probing and challenging questions that all presidential candidates may find difficult to answer. Donald Trump rarely apologizes, although in this case, he should. We have never been deterred by politicians or anyone else attacking us for doing our job, much less allowed ourselves to be bullied by anyone and we’re certainly not going to start now. All of our journalists will continue to report in the fair and balanced way that has made FOX News Channel the number one news network in the industry.”
Trump, of course, responded:
“I totally disagree with the FOX statement. I do not think Megyn Kelly is a quality journalist. I think her questioning of me, despite all of the polls saying I won the debate, was very unfair. Hopefully in the future I will be proven wrong and she will be able to elevate her standards to a level of professionalism that a network such as FOX deserves…
“More importantly, I am very pleased to see the latest polls from Public Policy Polling showing me at a strong number one with 35% in New Hampshire, the Monmouth University poll showing me, again at number one, with 30% in South Carolina and the latest national poll from Gravis where I am again the clear front runner with 40%. It was also just announced that I won the prestigious corn kernel poll at the Iowa State Fair by a landslide. I will be in Iowa tonight with my speech being live on CNN and other networks. My sole focus in running for the Presidency is to Make America Great Again!”
Kelly’s colleagues at Fox took to Twitter to defend her, making for an interesting optic: it’s the network vs. the candidate:
"All of us at Fox News Channel reject the crude and irresponsible attempts to suggest otherwise." pic.twitter.com/JxtvjXcpYs
— Katie Pavlich (@KatiePavlich) August 25, 2015
My friend @realDonaldTrump has captured the imagination of many. Focus on Hillary, Putin, border, jobs, Iran China & leave @megynkelly alone
— Sean Hannity (@seanhannity) August 25, 2015
Please shut up. https://t.co/mTNVwRyJsD
— Kirsten Powers (@KirstenPowers) August 25, 2015
i like @realDonaldTrump but his personal & professional attacks on @megynkelly r unwarranted-unacceptable- has 2 stop- @foxandfriends
— Brian Kilmeade (@kilmeade) August 25, 2015
perhaps u could stop being a giant man-baby jk i know u can’t https://t.co/ryR9zAmGye
— andy levy (@andylevy) August 25, 2015
Wish pal @realDonaldTrump would cool feud with @megynkelly Point is made boss. Now world needs you to use bully pulpit to address big issues
— Geraldo Rivera (@GeraldoRivera) August 25, 2015
Not okay. https://t.co/9ME6tbhDOL
— Michelle Fields (@MichelleFields) August 25, 2015
Yes. I find his tweets about @megynkelly childish and in poor taste. https://t.co/uTvxfUV2RF
— Jedediah Bila (@JedediahBila) August 25, 2015
The intelligence, class & grace of @megynkelly shined last night after her week's vacation with her family. I'll be on #kellyfile Wed night.
— Dana Perino (@DanaPerino) August 25, 2015
It's been 19 days since the debate- @realDonaldTrump has made his feelings clear. But THIS needs to stop
http://t.co/8BmVPZTGdp #let-it-go— Bret Baier (@BretBaier) August 25, 2015
i like @realDonaldTrump but his personal & professional attacks on @megynkelly r unwarranted-unacceptable- has 2 stop- @foxandfriends
— Brian Kilmeade (@kilmeade) August 25, 2015
So, who will win? It could be that this will all fizzle out in time for the second debate, but knowing Trump…I doubt that will happen.
I can’t be the only one who feels like…
TO: Ashton Kutcher (@aplusk)
FROM: America
RE: 2016 POTUS electionHurry up & jump out already! pic.twitter.com/WtqLRVzxwJ
— Justice Don Willett (@JusticeWillett) August 25, 2015
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Butt hurt is NOT an attractive attribute in a candidate.
What is Trump thinking, when he does things like this? No candidate likes to ‘punch down’… so in the eyes of Donald Trump, Megyn Kelly must be the more powerful?
Trump’s thinking that a public feud with Fox News’ most popular anchor is a free publicity bonanza dished up to the Low Information Voter.
Come on, think about it: what are the Liberal networks going to do? They’re going to “report” (if such a term can be used for their drivel) about the fighting, and THEIR viewers are going to see “The Donald” sticking it to Fox News.
It’s win-win for Trump. He makes Kelly look like she’s a GOPe stooge to the Conservative base (who likes what Trump is ~saying now~ even though he has held inconsistent positions in the past on issues), while at the same time giving the Statist, Marxist, Progressive Low Information Voter a reason to pay attention to what Trump is saying, in the hopes that he’ll bash Fox News some more.
It’s actually a solid plan. It’s petty, and cruel, but it is being highly effective.
I agree. Also there are some other things going on that I won’t go into.
Kelly was wrong and she should have used her vacation time to think it through, come to ephiphany. She may have been told to do what she did by the Bush-lovin’, lefty-moving Fox, but having been caught this way, should apologize, recognize that questions possibly good for a one-on-one interview were not appropriate for a debate stage, and save her ass.
Fox definitely is a mouthpiece for the GOPe – just look at all the mean things Krauthammer has said about Sarah Palin.(But of course it’s OK when Fox does it, right?) Yes, and they are definitely moving left, too. I quit paying for Fox on my satellite five years ago because if I wanted to hear opinions from Susan Estrich, Juan Williams, Geraldo, Bob Beckel, and those other libs they hire, I’d watch CNNABCMSNBCCBS. I think O’Reilly is a nutcase, too.
nah— he so totally owns the media. He’s playing them like a freaking harmonica.
I don’t want Trump for POTUS. He will sell conservatives up the river. However right now, he owns this race. I doubt that will be the case a year from now.
Trump is this enigma. There is good reason to believe that he will do what he says. With his business he basically did what he told his investors he would do. Otherwise they would have stopped investing. OTOH I think there are very good reasons for Trump selling conservatives down the river. Worse, he will redeem promises to conservatives in a Twilight Zone fashion.
The one redeeming thing about Trump is that while he might sell out conservatives, we know that most of the other candidates will sell out conservatives. While calling them low information voters, crazies, and hobbits. Then they will turn around and beg for their money and votes.
I would put more trust in the candidates who have always been conservative than in a candidate who was quite recently a Democrat and a big financial supporter of Democrats.
Trump fans somehow don’t care that he supported Democrat candidates in order to enrich himself — yet they imagine that he’ll now be a pure, incorruptible conservative just because he’s very rich and bombastic. That requires a huge leap of faith.
That might have some validity IF he had the same investors and creditors, but his history is screwing over everyone at the first opportunity. Perhaps you should actually survey his former partners and creditors about their experience with trusting Donald Trump’s word.
Kelly is set to do TWO more debates, right before various primaries. Clearly, she has antipathy for both Trump and Cruz. I’ve noticed her facial expressions as well… she’s got her own issues. IMO, Trump is wise to underscore the realities, so when she tries to sandbag him again, the memory will surface in viewers minds.
I think what this shows is that Megyn Kelly is too immature and petty to be elected President of the United States.
I think what this shows is that Donald Trump is also too immature and petty to be elected President of the United States.
It’s been three weeks, which is a lifetime in politics. That Trump is still stewing over Kelly strongly suggests he is too obsessively thin skinned and vindictive to hold political power.
Rather Nixonian…
You must not have watched her show Monday night because she went after him again through her buddies the talking heads. Then she went after Ted Cruz on her show and asked him yes or no questions that cannot be answered with yes or no answers. She is out to get anyone but Jeb Bush. This is all orchestrated by Ailes and all the other little munchkins at FNC don’t matter a whit. Go Trump!
This is absolute fact. Kelly started it all up again on purpose. She was baiting Trump and she knew it. Whether he should have taken the bait or not is another argument for elsewhere.
In any case, I wrote Fox off years ago and Kelly just validates my decision.
She’s become rather obnoxious. And marginalized.
Like so many other people who actually want a Republican President, and the 24 million who actually saw the debate, I thought well of both Trump and Kelly during the actual exchange. The reviews on Twitter didn’t turn until afterward. To me, this indicates the later commentary came from a different set of sources.
I still like Megyn Kelly, and I still think FOX News did all of the candidates a favor, by giving them those squirmy questions we knew were going to come, along with time to answer them. Otherwise, those questions would have been asked by other members of the media, who would have made up answers to suit themselves, rather than allowing the candidates to reply.
It’s called defusing the issue, and it’s a very effective technique used in courtrooms and briefs: get the unfavorable facts out there, first, with your own explanation.
Trump failed to recognize the favor, failed to recognize when to quit, and failed to see that he was treated the same as the other candidates.
They asked Jeb Bush the dynasty question.
They asked Ben Carson the experience question.
By that time, I was hooked. I watched the whole thing.
If you thought Kelly was so good how did you like the question to Ted Cruz, “Have you heard from God lately?”. You think this is good journalism? Do you think her job is to get the candidates ideas and solutions for our country’s problems or asking insulting religious or personal questions? All her liberal buddies say that he needed to be asked these questions because liberal journalist will ask him later. Really? Would you want your husband/significant other to tell you that you are fat or looked bad with that hair style? Or that you have bad manners and need your teeth whitened? It may need to be asked but not by someone you think has a brain and discretion and that you just might think would give you a little break.
Squirmey questions? How about this:
Mr. Bush how did you earn your position on the Board of Directors at Tenant Healthcare Corp? And after what they did to your constituency why did you want it?
You are proof that we all see what we want to see. I thought the debate was a travesty.
Fox News is still promoting its tabloid “debate”.
Ya’ know, I’d rather vote for Grover Cleveland, umm, William McKinley, DAMN, Ronald Reagan, oopps, they are dead, D.E.A.D. then/than (pick one) Donnie (hair combover tRUMP). tRUMP is an asshole! Period. Fini.
Trump likes to attack any that he says have attacked him. He used Democrat attack falsehoods to go after Walker, he even went after Fiorina when she backed up Megyn. He brags that those that go after him end up crashing in the polls.
The only mild “attack” this time from Megyn was on her show, when she mentioned Trump’s plan to deport everyone. While he did say with a regretful tone, to O’Reilly “we have to, we have to”, he also said we’d start with closing the borders, and the cartel gangsters would go on day one. Then he said when O’Reilly brought up Elian Gonzalez, that it would be done humanely and the good ones would be brought back quickly.
Some of that would not really work, but Megyn only covered the “deport them all” part, which is a little unfair. Deport may be his policy stance, but it would not happen, and Jeb takes advantage of that fact. Republicans got reelected promising to defund/repeal Obamacare and other promises, so I think Trump being a little over the top on the deport language is less deceptive, though in time he needs a more real plan.
But if Trump goes off half cocked due to that little “slight”, maybe he does have a problem with women, or at least this woman that got under his skin. Maybe he thought he could hurt her ratings, but if he really feels that need, he has issues. It’s hard to see any rational reason for his going on the attack again, except that is his impulsive, sometimes repulsive nature.
Elian Gonzales was not an illegal immigrant. He was given citizenship the day he stood on American soil.
Again, your facts are not correct. Cuban refugees are granted refugee status if they set foot on US soil, NOT citizenship.
True, but he was not an illegal, and refuge status has a defined path to becoming a citizen.
The USA doesn’t have an objective news outlet of any size. Maybe Trump can elevate Fox’s standards to something that is acceptable. What I saw at the debate, such as the God question, was immature and ignorant. Fox could do much better, but the question is whether they want to report the news or control the narrative.
Much about not much. Trump is playing the game. It might be real hurt feelings, BUT he is drawing support across the isle from disaffected Dems and Indy’s including conservatives. Indy’s and Dems actually believe the crap about Fox being biased for conservatives and most real conservatives KNOW that Fox isn’t.. So… get into a little rub with Fox and you burnish your cred with all the above AND it prevents the LEFT from coming at you saying that Fox is in your pocket in the general. To me… it’s 3D chess and Trump and his team are playing it brilliantly .
Trump would do better to work on reducing his negatives among those who are proven voters. It seems that more than a few of Trumps supporters are infrequent voters.
All early polls really measure is name recognition. That’s why Trump and Bush both do well. But each of them have negatives above 50%. That basically means they are unelectable under most circumstances.
All I can vouch for is this proven voter is sick and tired and Trump isn’t 100% aligned with my views, neither are any of them. Leaders lead. We’ve gone since Reagan really without a strong leader. I would argue that name recognition is part of it, but not all of it and to generate this much heat, over a year from the election… in August… and driving the issues bus where the GOP nor the DNC wanted it to go is saying something. I judge Trump by his enemies.. He has all the right ones.
“Trump would do better to work on reducing his negatives…”
No, I’m not sure he would. It’s not his game. That’s the ingratiating, fear-based campaign style of the establishment GOP. Trump is slashing forward in a new way, slashing up the GOP playbook. It’s a cross between bracing Reaganism and some kind of primal rebellious ego-driven yawp we’ve never quite experienced in modern politics. But it is resonating among those disgusted and frustrated by our PC-smothered culture and the deceits of those who use PC to jam their anti-American ideas down our throats. Whether Trump is built for the long haul I’m not sure, but so far he has flummoxed and infuriated all the right people and many Americans are reveling in it.
Someone gets it right.
Trump knocked out a few salty tweets aimed a high-powered media personality and the Right goes to the fainting couch. No wonder we keep losing. But Trump isn’t interested in playing the same old deferential game (wherein the media gets to play offense and the GOP must take it and like it). He’s turning it around on them.
I sensed no bitterness or butt-hurtness from his tweets, just good old New York bumptiousness. A huge number of Americans view the media as glib, agenda-driven, exploitive and far worse. This will play out in Trump’s favor.
It’s hard to win an election when over 50% of the voters consider the candidate to be a sleazy asshat with clownish tendencies.
I tried to find a video of the Kelly file from yesterday. I heard she made a couple of pissy, immature, comments about Trump’s immigration position before a viewer was prompted to tweet out that the bimbo was back, which Donald re-tweeted.
She also TWEETED something ‘off’ upon her return from vacation after her show aired. She was the one stirring it again. Trump could either lay back and take it… but then, it would just encourage more of the same, or ‘counter punch’. He did. Then Pappa Ailes came out to speak for poor Megyn. You know the tough as nails ‘journalist’, who then has a man cover for her and friends rush to her defense.
Which was rather the point of her initial attack on Trump at the debate, which was designed to end his run right there. And she wanted that, very much. She was giddy when I saw her talking about the upcoming debate for a week or so prior. It was disgusting, actually.
Important issues in this election include rebuilding our military might, standing up to terrorism and terrorist nations, proper treatment of veterans, revamping the economy, securing the border, ending the illegal invasion — and several others.
What is not an important issue to me is which TV mega-personality, pretty boy/pretty girl, or network feels butt hurt or abused by one of the candidates.
A good politician would let the petty feud die. Trump is not leading in the polls because he’s a good politician.
Ok, I agree that Trump should stop with his responses to Kelly.Trump’s attacks, as such, are truly not harming him yet but there’s that chance they will; he doesn’t need that down side. OTOH: FNC should stop doing the RNC’s handiwork and trying to take out Trump. The questions Fox asked Trump in that first debate were very pitiful and weak, almost like the ones I’d expect from Scott Pelley or Chrissy Matthews; Kelly and Wallace even included that Pelley “gotcha” smirk.
So, Fox is now doing whatever the GOP elites and RNC want? Oh joy, farirly something just not balanced towards the folks.
Ah, forgot to mention one more opinion re: Trump. I like what he’s doing, believe he’s got the RINO’s in the race handcuffed or being corralled so they can be treated; either way would be fine with me.
“journalists” taking sides makes them kind on like not journalists … Trump is just preparing for the next debate that Kelly is supposed to “moderate” … he’s going to poison the well and make it impossible for her to be a moderator …
You mean she’s not been poisoned already?
I know she’s non-political, but she would make a far better president than Trump could ever be. Imagine her dealing with any world leader. She would pretty much eat them up if they were not pro- American. She could beat Fauxcohontas into a discarded pile of chicken feathers. Hillary doesn’t speak well. Kelly, who doesn’t apparently wear pant suits because they’re not needed, would crush Hillary like the toad she is. I can’t see any other Democrat who could come close to Megyn. Speaking as a guy, I wouldn’t mind having the best looking president to ever serve in the office who is the toughest SOB that you are going to find. Do you think that the Iran deal before Congress would have been negotiated by her? Think about it.
Yeah, maybe she could do another interview and talk about her husband’s penis.
Dear RNC, RINOS and FOX news. We’re ON to you. We get it – your beholden to your treasury, your pocket, your owners, your CEOs. They don’t want Trump for potus. He’ll upset your apple cart!
Guess what, the American people get to decide.
Hey down thumb – you know its We The People VERSUS the Establishment ?!?!
Read up at The Conservative Treehouse… don’t be dumb down thumb
“In an August 15th campaign press conference in New Hampshire Donald Trump sent a message to the RNC warning them he knows how, why and who the RNC/GOPe roadmap is financing within the election to attain their specific goals.
Donald Trump frequently talks about how his speeches are carried live; code speak to affirm there are three audiences for his points when delivered: the electorate, the financial interests in Wall Street, and the entire apparatus of the RNC/GOP. The code-speak is decipherable when you understand the big picture.
Donald Trump presidential raceIn that New Hampshire presser, Trump carefully aimed an arrow at the RNC/GOPe and their Wall Street constructs via Super-PACs. Those who have followed the entire RNC construct since it was initially rolled out were able to see who Trump was talking to.”
more here:
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/08/25/tripwire-alert-the-message-inside-the-message-donald-trump-frames-bushrubio/
Trump didn’t make $10,000,000,000 by being dumb.
He knows exactly what he is doing.
There will be a reconcilation, with terms.
Give them an inch..
Kelly goes after Cruz now, with same drippy ‘oh poor illegals’ question O’Reilly used on Trump. And it seems Ailes wants to see Trump defeated and is rallying the junior woodchucks (Perino, Baer, etc) to attack Trump.
This is not just about personalities. It is about Fox working for the RNC. They put Snow White in the front line for a reason.
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/08/25/cruz-accuses-megyn-kelly-of-asking-mainstream-media-liberal-question/
Nice job by Cruz. He is too smart for Kelly.
When did Trump stop liking bimbos?
After all, he owns those pageants that lavishly celebrate bimbohood. And his trophy (third) wife — who surely didn’t marry him for his charm — fits the “bimbo” definition more than Megyn Kelly does.
Self-awareness is clearly not one of Trump’s strong points.
Notice Trump’s first instinct to any questioning or criticism is to resort to personal insults. Not a sign of an emotional maturity.
But he sucks up all the coverage with his celebrity, and tells the suckers what they want to hear, so the qualified candidates are mostly shut off the news cycles.
Well at least it’s better then responmding to criticism by apologizing.
Meanwhile, Trump fans respond to any doubts about Trump by shouting “RINO! No Jeb!”
The Trump supporters seem to shout RINO even more frequently then the Obama supporters shouted racism in 2008 every time someone pointed out the the current revenue did not match past performance.
Just got this off of Drudge, Cruz joins in on Megyn hate: http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/08/25/cruz-accuses-megyn-kelly-of-asking-mainstream-media-liberal-question/
No. He does not. Poor mouse.
Looking at that list of tweets caused me to think. The motto of Fox used to be “We report, you decide.” Now it seems to be, “We decided then tell you how to think and act.”
As for Trump, the main observation would be that reporters and GOPe just don’t get that his popularity feeds on that attitude.
Planned President? #CecileTheAbortionist is envious.
I suggest a tight, circular firing pattern to accelerate resource depletion and maximize friendly casualties.
What would it take to redirect the fire to the opposition?
Absolutely correct! We (and Fox News) need to be pointing out the problems with the Democrats.
I tried to watch the Kelly interview with Cruz last night. She would not stop interrupting. She would not let him give a thoughtful or complete answer. She wanted sound bites. She seemed hostile, upset even. What did Ted Cruz do to HER? I don’t care about the Trump thing with her. They are both grownups so go at it for all I care. But if she is unwilling or incapable of discussing a complex subject with a US Senator who has argued before the Supreme Court multiple times she is not all she is cracked up to be. I thought she was a lawyer and could interview on a higher level. Apparently not.
So Kelly is rough on everybody, perhaps too much so, but it is equal treatment. The supporters who whine about it are too much in love with their own image of their candidate, and not his real abilities.
The President sometimes has to deal with harsh and unforgiving problems that aren’t “nice” to him. Can’t take the mean girl’s questions? Maybe you aren’t ready for a real man’s job.
I like tough questioning. But how could she ask tough questions if he couldn’t even enunciate what he is thinking or advocating? The more I read about birthright citizenship the more complex I realize that it is. I felt like they were talking on two different levels. She is “yes or no”. Cruz is “maybe and if”. I wanted to hear him asked questions and to explain. Not her popping off. If that is what she wants to do on her show then so be it and no problem. I won’t go there for serious discussion and information.
That’s just baloney. 24 million people tune to hear the candidates – many for the first time – and she chooses to ask inconsequential gotcha questions right off the bat. That’s just really bad journalism, really bad television. Completely unfair, very unprofessional. Fox should have learned from the blowback Candy Crowley got. Right after the debate, I went on Kelly’s Facebook page and she was getting blistered by the overwhelming majority of the comments.
Amazingly Kelly had the arrogance to double down on it when she came back from her vacation. She’s a hack – a legend in her own mind. This is not about her, it’s about the candidates. Trump has every right to whack away at her – if she can’t take the criticism then she shouldn’t ask the questions. It says less about Trump than it does about her massive ego. Ailes had to come to her rescue so her reputation wasn’t completely damaged.
I liked Megyn Kelly but was a little surprised to find out that not everyone shared my opinion. I will be watching for some of this narcissism next time I see her in a video.
http://robertringer.com/megyn-kelly-queen-of-narcissism-gets-a-pass/
Megyn did get Cruz to talk about the 14th amendment. He previously held we’d have to change the amendment, but told Megyn smart guys say we could change the anchor baby rule by statute, and we should try that first. To me it seems clear no precedent established anchor babies for illegals, but I just learned what “dicta” is a couple days ago, and most of my legal authority comes from reading LI (which ain’t nuthin’ 😉 ).
Then Megyn tried to push him on what he would do with the “eleven” million, which he would not answer. She said, “isn’t that a fair question?” She was actually fairly patient as Cruz rambled on about how he would close the border, nice thoughts but it avoided the big question.
I don’t get why they refuse to answer that, but that is the strategy of Walker and Cruz (maybe others). Reality is many will stay, but maybe Trump scores points at this time with “deport them all”, pandering to the most angry.
Fiorina has a more practical, and I think popular, stance. She says illegals can never get citizenship because that would reward them and establish the illegal route as the best way, encouraging the flow to continue. But she’d give some sort of visa to workers.
Citizenship and voting is big for the political class, but they also seem to be doing Cloward-Piven and overwhelming the system with welfare recipients. So a plan giving temporary visas to real workers, but shifting the entitlement burden to the employer, makes sense.
Drunk drivers get deported, states get enlisted to help rather than getting sued for helping, e-verify, etc. The slow “compassionate” ratchet is the only realistic way to remove half the thirty million, ID and tax the responsible workers.
I loathe Ms Kelly, she is a hack.
OTOH, Cruz blew it with this question, an entirely legitimate question. The answer was simple, you cannot “deport” a US citizen. If the parents choose to take their US citizen children home with them it is their choice.
Well, Elliott, you might not care about Kelly attacking Trump, only her targeting Cruz bothers you, but you should. Why? Because those two are the two best in the ‘Rebel Alliance’. It’s NO coincidence she is most hostile to both men. Trump w/ the ‘war on womyn’ kill shot, in which, like Ramos, she gave an a factually deficient editorial, and commanded ‘defend’ in a whopping 60 seconds. The ‘listen to God’ BS was all about making Cruz look like a religious nut.
They had even conspired to have Trump hauled off the stage if he refused to answer a question (Brett’s loyalty oath)
She had been just as crappy to Cruz two days before the debate, and the look on her face, when she said Cruz should ‘drop out’ ‘since you like him [Trump] so much’ was utterly vile.
Meanwhile, she returns after her holiday, starts up w/ Trump AGAIN, tweets a snarky tweet, then then next Cruz interview, she starts up w/ him again…
Meanwhile, she gets Ramos on her show after his fillabuster attempt, lets him whinge on, corrects a couple of items, but lets him get away with a whopper…that Trump had called on him.
Nope. That Megyn Kelly or Kelly Megyn (as the WeBeSisters call her) is a real piece of work, completely unprofessional, and quite a disappointment.
Intimidation is a Donald ploy. The Donald is pre-negotiating on his terms and on his turf. To do so he must shake a tree and see what falls to the ground. He must shake any supposed opponent’s self-confidence before they gain a leg up. This is standard business ‘stuff’, standard WWE ‘stuff’.
OTOH, in human land, calling someone a “bimbo” is derisive and derogatory and not worthy of any Presidential candidate. I do recognize that U.S. political campaign rhetoric from the first days of our Independence was and still is down and dirty. So, everyone involved should not be thinned skinned.
The Donald needs to disconnect his harshest business acumen from his mouth when speaking outside the realm of his kingdom-Trump sees himself as Henry the VIII. To turn a well-known phrase from the Honeymooners, if Megan Kelly is a bimbo then Trump wants to be President of Bimbos.
When Trump pompously speaks and tweets his prickly peccadillos then Trump is just another Karaoke microphone attached to a comb over. Who listens to that except for drunks at a bar?
Cunning analysis of the inner workings of Donald’s mind as a businessman.
If Megyn Kelly doesn’t like being called a bimbo, then why did she pose like a bimbo for GQ?
Also, for only being in the shoes of a politician for such a short time, Donald seems to be catching on, for himself, as to what works for him and what doesn’t. I see the changes.
The rough edges are getting ground down day by day.
This election cycle is a year and a half process.
There are no winners in this feud. Everyone will lose and there is no other option other than to cease.
Trump won the debate. He’s acting like a sore winner. It’s un attractive, but the public isn’t paying close attention right now either.
As for Fox, Hannity (and weekend guys like Gutfeld) are the last conservatives on the network. Trump has the power to seriously wound Fox by pointing out to Fox’s conservative audience that the network isn’t conservative.
Trump, the guy who recently praised “single-payer” medical systems, and who criticized Scott Walker for addressing budget problems without raising taxes, and who said it was wrong to draw cartoons of Muhammad because it offends Muslims, and who was quite recently a Democrat and big financial supporter of Democrats, and who highly praised Hillary Clinton, etc. … will expose Fox as not conservative enough for him. Sure.
So say the Trump fanatics who have nothing but scorn for the serious, longtime conservatives in the race.
Trump isn’t punching down. He is attacking mainstream media, and right now Megyn has shown herself as the face of the liberal media. The media doesn’t represent mainstream voters.
Cruz outlines his plans and won’t play games over “down the road specifics” now. But Kelly persists in “you won’t answer my question”. Cruz is right, let’s deal with that later.
Kelly has shown herself to be a media lackey and then hiding behind the ‘you’re being mean because I’m a girl’. Honey, if you can’t take the heat, take another vaca. And please conduct yourself with some dignity. What lapse in judgement would lead you to discussing your husband’s and your body parts with Sterne, on the air? Bimbo indeed.
The media is corrupt; in particular, Fox News,
because their tag line is “fair and balanced”.
They conned conservatives by claiming to be
right of center. They are for Jeb Bush and are
doing the bidding of the GOPe. Their mistake
is in making it so obvious. Ailes apparently
came out and stated that Trump is unelectable.
Trump is outing them. Kelly is a bimbo. She was
one prior to her little dust up with Trump.
I agree that now Trump needs to ignore her;
she is trash.
And it appears that Ailes gave the order for
other Fox News anchors to tweet on Kelly’s
behalf. We, the people, are not fooled.
Watch Trump’s numbers go up and Fox’s go down.
Accidentally downvoted you when hitting the reply…
“Watch Trump’s numbers go up and Fox’s go down.”
Absolutely. But the fox numbers will stay up for a while just due to the controversy. Later, when more people figure out that fox is in the tank for the ruling party, their numbers will drop. Not enough I’m afraid.
They’ve lost one already. Me. I no longer watch. I’m not the only one.
I am weary of the media talking about themselves. They can ask what they want and the candidate can answer or not… I CAN DECIDE THE RESULT!
Did you see where Trump expelled that obnoxious, un-invited news-reader (what they’re called in Britain) who was interrupting him?
Here’s the facts:
1. Fox IS “fair and balanced”. Kelly goes after people the same way, regardless of who they are, and most of you think it’s swell…except when you feel defensive about the person being interviewed
2. Fox IS NOT bsNBC for the right. They have never pretended to be. Suck it
3. Many of you want Fox to be the hacks and flacks for you that you wish existed. They are just center-right, which is ALLLLLLLLLLLL they can be and maintain any kind of creds in the news world and NOT be who the Collective claims they are
4. You GOT good, substantive content from the Kelly/Cruz interview
5. Kelly asked the OBVIOUS question hanging in the air from the T-rump blatherings regarding anchor-babies, and Cruz answered that question skillfully in the face of Kelly doing what she DOES when interviewing EVERYONE (i.e., probing and not permitting any tendency to filibuster)
6. Cruz is not pissing, moaning, and blowing snot bubbles about how he was treated by Fox. Because he’s not a narcissistic asshole
Typical strawman arguments by rags. Swing and a miss.
Name them, liar.
The problem is that you’re not listening to what the complaints are, You’re like the Jorge Ramos of the comments section, you only hear what advances your pre-conceived notions.
The issue with Megyn Kelly is that she (and Fox News) took a debate platform and immediately used it to talk about something highly tangential. It was completely out of order for the viewers. They want content – discussions about issues – if she wanted to sneak that in at the end or in a separate interview then have at it. But do it in a more strategic, more journalistic way. Not Kelly. She threw it out there TMZ style. Then argued with Trump after he pushed back. That’s just bush league.
That’s not Fair And Balanced. That’s just agenda driven. I think many people had a certain idea of what FNC was and the debate changed that – probably permanently.
The Cruz interview was pretty offensive not because of what Cruz said but because of what she said. She just assumed that everyone agrees that birthright citizenship is part of the 14th amendment and that point is completely settled. Well tell that to Mark Levin.
Lastly, if you ever saw her interview Ben Crump, you would think it was a different woman. She lets him roll over her with his vile deceptions without a peep. That is not the only guest she does that with. She started chirping at Trump immediately when she got back from her vacation. She just doesn’t like him. That’s clear.
So that’s why people are upset with her and with FNC. They are defending her when it is obvious to almost everyone how inappropriate some of their questions were.
So, your “typically” was just bullshit.
I knew that.
You’re welcome to your opinions, which is all you expressed in opposition to my observations. That’s cool. Just so long as we’re clear.
“They are defending her when it is obvious to almost everyone how inappropriate some of their questions were.”
THAT IS a straw-man fallacy. Or a resort to popular opinion in place of a rational argument.
” and Cruz answered that question ”
Well, no he didn’t answer it at all.
I like Cruz. He doesn’t have to answer any question.
I despise Kelly. But there was nothing wrong with the question.
The answer was a simple one – we cannot deport American citizens. If their parents choose to take them with them, it is their business.
When asked about his past argument that the 14th Amendment guarantees birthright citizenship, Cruz said, “that’s why I say we should pursue either or both. We should pursue either a constitutional amendment which overcomes any language in the Constitution, or a statute, if the other scholars are right that it’s within Congress’ authority. What matters is the underlying policy.”
Cruz was then asked, “if you have a husband and a wife who are illegal immigrants, and they have two children who are here, who are American citizens, would you deport all of them? Would you deport the American citizen children?”
He responded, “So, Megyn, what I’ve said is that we should approach immigration in a staged manner. We should start with focusing on areas of bipartisan agreement. Where is there bipartisan agreement? On two major areas. Number one, that we should do everything possible to secure the border and stop illegal immigration. And number two, to improve and streamline legal immigration.”
YOU may not like that answer, but it WAS an answer.
As you suggest, deporting birth-right kids born PRIOR to a change in the law may be problematic, and would almost certainly require a ruling from the Supremes. Their parents will decide what to do with them in the practical world.
Tell it to Trump’s foolish supporters. He can’t and won’t be elected. Hillary, who has come out of the woodwork now that Trump, her false flag, is surging. Funny dat. The woman was as withdrawn as catatonic monk for months while Trump did his thing. Now that he’s surging, up she pops like a jack-in-the-box. Things will go up for her as long as Trump remains high in the polls because he’s the only leading candidate Hillary beats in a head-to-head poll! Trump will of course have a tantrum and run 3rd party, thus doing for Hillary what Ross Perot did for Bubba.
Why do people suppose Trump never has any definitive plan nor very much knowledge about anything. When asked for specifics, his responses are always broad, generalized policies a “Trump president would do.” He doesn’t take the time to know specifics because he has no intention of winning. He can continue his aid mission for Hillary just by running his bombastic mouth and sucking all the air out of the room for real candidates.
meanwhile, his blackmail of the Republican Party continues: “If I don’t like the candidate or they don’t treat me well, I’ll run 3rd party.” Both conditions are 100% subjective, of course, so, he’d rather a ‘rat who embraces illegals and high taxes win than a ‘pub who will improve matters? Does that sound like a man putting his country first as he claims? No, it’s a man setting us up for a fall by dragging enough voters into his alleged hissy fit, 3rd party candidacy.
Draft dodger, always been a lefty, pro-abortion, pro-nationalized healthcare, makes up excuses for his ‘rat support,, so he’s clearly the biggest RINO to ever come down the pike. Yet the fools line up like the little children who followed the Pied Piper to oblivion.
Anybody who looks at the really big picture of all this recognizes that THIS is the only way the ‘rats maintain the Oval Office because, without Trump elbowing everyone else out of the way, we have a very strong bench.
That people can’t see this is just so damned depressing.
My God, it really looks hopeless right now.
We DVR Special Report and The Kelly File, watch most of both of them 3-5 nights per week.
We reached the point a couple weeks ago where we fast=forward through Trump just as we do obastard. We cannot stand the sight or sound of either of them.
I’m convinced Trump has a major personality disorder.
These non-critical thinking, low-info types supporting him aren’t going to change. We are so screwed, and there’s every reason to think it’s by design.
Funny, not so much, that no one on the right got upset when Ed Henry went after Hillary Clinton.
Hillary been ducking and running from the press like a hippie dodging the Vietnam draft, imposed I might add, by a Democrat President. 🙂
Have a nice single dimensional day.
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