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This stinks: Hillary email firm run out of apartment bathroom?

This stinks: Hillary email firm run out of apartment bathroom?

At this point, nothing surprises.

The Daily Mail is reporting an interesting twist in the Hillary email saga, EXCLUSIVE: Hillary’s email firm was run from a loft apartment with its servers in the BATHROOM

The IT company Hilary Clinton chose to maintain her private email account was run from a loft apartment and its servers were housed in the bathroom closet, Daily Mail Online can reveal.

Daily Mail Online tracked down ex-employees of Platte River Networks in Denver, Colorado, who revealed the outfit’s strong links to the Democratic Party but expressed shock that the 2016 presidential candidate chose the small private company for such a sensitive job.

One, Tera Dadiotis, called it ‘a mom and pop shop’ which was an excellent place to work, but hardly seemed likely to be used to secure state secrets. And Tom Welch, who helped found the company, confirmed the servers were in a bathroom closet.

It can also be disclosed that the small number of employees who were aware of the Clinton contract were told to keep it secret.

The way in which Clinton came to contract a company described as a ‘mom and pop’ operation remains unclear.

However Daily Mail Online has established a series of connections between the firm and the Democratic Party.

This raises serious security concerns, as CNN reports over 300 emails located so far now require review for classified information:

Intelligence officials assigned to review emails from Hillary Clinton’s server for classified information have so far recommended that 305 documents be referred to agencies for further consultation, according to a report filed with a federal judge Monday.

In court papers filed with U.S. District Court Judge Rudolph Contreras, the State Department updated its progress. It said that as of last Friday, Intelligence Community reviewers had completed a preliminary screening and determined that “out of a sample of approximately 20% of the Clinton emails,” the reviewers have “recommended 305 documents — approximately 5.1% — for referral to their agencies for consultation.”

Meanwhile, Hillary’s attorney David Kendall is in the hot seat, with Sen. Chuck Grassley questioning whether Kendall had the necessary security clearances to handle and review the classified information, via The Free Beacon:

Sen. Chuck Grassley (R., Iowa) is questioning the security clearance of Hillary Clinton’s attorney amid revelations that multiple of her emails to which he had access contain “top secret” information.

Grassley, who chairs the Senate Judiciary Committee, authored a letter to longtime Clinton lawyer David Kendall on Friday demanding he provide information regarding the “security clearance” he possessed to maintain control of three computer thumb drives containing the approximately 30,000 work-related emails Clinton turned over to the State Department from her private system.

“The transmission of classified material to an individual unauthorized to possess it is a serious national security risk,” Grassley wrote. “Moreover, if a person unauthorized to maintain custody of the classified materials does in fact maintain custody, it raises legitimate questions as to whether the information was properly secured from foreign governments and other entities.”

“Many intelligence community personnel, uniformed personnel and the American people may be at risk when classified material is not properly secured,” the senator added.

On Thursday, Judicial Watch will ask a federal judge for discovery as to Hillary’s electronic devices and servers. I suggested that Judicial Watch may want to ask for the depositions of Hillary, Kendall, Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills. Perhaps Platte River needs to be added to the list.

More to follow.

UPDATE: FBI Optimistic It Can Recover Some Data From Clinton Server:

The FBI may be able to recover at least some data from Hillary Clinton’s private email server even though there was an attempt to wipe it, two sources with direct knowledge of the process told NBC News on Tuesday.


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Since Hillary is intent on flushing national security down the toilet, having her server in a bathroom makes a lot of sense.

Remember the flap over Valarie Plame?

Where are all those terribly concerned people now?

Is Hellary eating a poke chop cannibalism…???

Inquiring minds!

who revealed the outfit’s strong links to the Democratic Party

I expect they’ll find that the boss of the outfit was one of Bill’s friends from kindergarden.

That’s just the way the Clintons usually work.

    DaveGinOly in reply to tom swift. | August 18, 2015 at 7:48 pm

    Two reasons for choosing Platte River come to mind. First, because of its ties to the party, she may have heard about it word-of-mouth, or may have put out feelers to get such references from others. Second (and possibly a criteria in any “feelers”) may have been a desire for a hole-in-the-wall type of place in order to keep it on the QT (by not using a higher-profile IT outfit).

“The transmission of classified material to an individual unauthorized to possess it is a serious national security risk,” Grassley wrote.

Not to mention a crime. But Obama’s DOJ is on it, right? We can expect indictments any day now, right?

its servers were housed in the bathroom closet

Ummm … so what? Hillary wasn’t using Platte River Networks’ server, she was using her own.

    Milhouse in reply to tom swift. | August 18, 2015 at 2:31 pm

    Ummm, what? You’ll have to explain that one.

      tom swift in reply to Milhouse. | August 18, 2015 at 2:51 pm

      The Platte River Networks server(s) were located in a bathroom closet … in Colorado.

      Hillary’s server was in her Chappaqua home … in New York. It was supposedly moved later to a data center in New Jersey, for reasons which remain obscure.

      Obviously the server in Colorado and the server in New York are not the same server. Or somebody’s lying, again.

      Most of what we’re seeing in The News just talks about “The Server”, as if there’s only one on the planet.

        If Platte River was providing “administration services” for Hillary’s NY-based Server, then they were most likely using remote access software such as TeamViewer, Citrix, RDP or some other form of remote desktop protocol. These tools allow a user on one system to “remote in” across the network and control the other machine as if he/she were sitting in front of it. I’d bet you my annual bonus that this what the Platte River folks used on a regular basis to perform software updates, make configuration changes, etc. When they’re connected like this it’s almost as if they’re sitting there… they have complete control of the machine (minus physical access, obviously). They can change anything and they can transfer any data they want on or off the system (assuming they have a root or admin account).

        So if these sorts of remote control sessions can be initiated from the Platte River servers, and the Platte River servers are not secure or hardened… well the problem is obvious, is it not?

I’ve seen Cirque Du Soleil performers that could drop through a fart fan and never have a spec of dust on them.

I bet the Chinese and Russians…to say nothing of Iranians…could hire someone like that for a short night’s work.

The Throne Room of Hillary Rodham-Rooter Clinton : “The way in which Clinton came to contract a company described as a ‘mom and pop’ operation remains unclear.” No matter, now “it’s” all going to hit the fan.

Exactly what Platte River Networks had to do with Hillary’s operation is unclear.

Normally a hosting company puts the scripts (HTML, mostly) and related files (linked images, pdfs, etc) which make up a “website” on the hard drive of a server. The server is just a computer running server software; in the good old days that meant a UNIX operating system and a program called Apache HTTP Server, though there are others available now. The server is generally remote (i.e., not in the company’s bathroom closet). Most are in data centers with fancy phone line connections, redundant power supplies, air conditioning (a room with thousands of computers in it gets awfully hot), 24-hour technical staff, etc.

Hillary had her site,, on her own server in her basement in New York. So, no hosting company and no data center were involved. So what was Platte River doing? Possibly the admin tasks necessary to keep Hillary’s system up and running. To do that, somebody at Platte River would have to have administrator access (remote access, of course) to Hillary’s system—and that means access to everything, including all the e-mails.

If this is the case, then the administrator would have to have the proper level of security credentials to read all that Top Secret e-mail, whether or not he actually read any of it. And, of course, a secure connection (which—from Colorado to New York—is essentially impossible).

This looks like a major weak point in Hillary’s multi-layered defense—allowing access to secret material by unauthorized personnel could be a tough charge to simply belittle and fob off.

    Yeah, well, as Hillary’s fond of saying, none of it was marked classified (or Top Secret), so why would a remote admin need clearance? It’s not his/ her fault, it’s the fault of whoever oversees the classified material that’s unsecure.

    That would be one of the tiny handful of federal officials charged with original classification of intelligence, who would have been, at the time, Secretary of State..

      tom swift in reply to JBourque. | August 18, 2015 at 2:12 pm

      Exactly the point. Secret material doesn’t stay secret if you show it to just anybody. If Hillary allowed uncleared personnel access to it, she has a problem.

      Bruce Hayden in reply to JBourque. | August 18, 2015 at 4:44 pm

      Except, of course, that some of the original classified documents found apparently appear to have had their security markings removed, presumably by her minions, in the process of moving it from their secured, classified systems to send to her. You would think that the amount of work involved there would have been indicia that would strongly suggest to her minions doing this, that they shouldn’t. Of course, if she had released the electronic emails, instead of printing them off, the FBI, etc. would know who the minions were who did this for her.

      The whole excuse was pretty bogus in the first place – a lot of what she did day-to-day was sensitive enough that it should be on classified systems, and much would probably ultimately be classified – it just hadn’t been classified, yet, when sent to Clinton. And, the laws don’t talk about records marked as Classified, etc., but rather, just Classified, secret, sensitive, etc. information, regardless of whether it was marked or not.

    DaveGinOly in reply to tom swift. | August 18, 2015 at 7:53 pm

    I thought Hil had State hire a tech to baby sit the server?

Sammy Finkelman | August 18, 2015 at 1:42 pm

Which server is this now? What did it do?

It was a loft apartment and apparently the only enclosed place they had was a closet off a bathroom.

Oh, would that the sink had overflowed and shorted that sucker right out!

Sammy Finkelman | August 18, 2015 at 1:57 pm

Daily Mail:

March 20, 2013 – Clinton’s private email address, [email protected], is made public when a Romanian hacker named ‘Guccifer’ (whose real name is Marcel Lazăr Lehel) hacks into longtime Clinton adviser Sidney Blumenthal’s AOL email account and leaks images of his inbox – including emails from Clinton

No, I believe Valdimir Putin [Russia Times] leaked that and said it came from Guccifer.

Sounds like they were chosen because they were small. Too hard to keep secrets at a big company like Rackspace or Uunet.

Come on people, where would you put the extra rolls of toilet paper? The only logical idea is a server.

Henry Hawkins | August 18, 2015 at 4:12 pm

Hillary’s is not noted as tech savvy. Perhaps Hillary thought she could flush all her emails down the toilet if the police came pounding on the door, like a drug dealer does his stash. Probably got the idea from watching COPS reruns.

Please note, this is all SMART POWER LEANING FORWARD.

    Ragspierre in reply to Henry Hawkins. | August 18, 2015 at 5:19 pm

    “Bad girl…bad girl. Wutcha gwaana do? Wutcha gwaana when they come fo you…?”

    “Tonight’s episode filmed on the mean streets of Chappaqua, New York, featuring the dedicated law enforcement professionals from the Westchester League of Woman’s Voters…and a cast of IT morons whose identities will be highly publicized to keep all implications of guilt off Hellary Clinton, who is innocent until proven guilty…unless Huma talks.”

suspect this is terminology issue and her mail server was not physically there.
she may have used a server there for web presence or just used them to admin hers.
the NJ location I am pretty sure is a datacenter, I may even have 2 vps units inside it.

funny thing is her mail server ip (updated 1-29-2015) still shows in NY not NJ.

Platte River Networks (PRN) in Colorado did not have proper security clearance to handle top secret information.

PRN has probably got a mirror image of Hillary’s server…if they haven’t destroyed it.

PRN is under FBI investigation for stealing high level military and government phone numbers and providing congress circumvention tools to politicians.

It looks like Hillary – and other politicians – chose this company because they are dirty. Other politicians who used Platt River’s ‘special services’ may also be in deep trouble.


    DaveGinOly in reply to Uncle Samuel. | August 18, 2015 at 7:57 pm

    I’m hoping they have a cloned drive. If I am not mistaken, a cloned drive would have all the forensic value of the original. (Not sure that a mirror would, and pretty sure simply copying the data/emails would not.)

In addition to hiding her illegal mishandling of classified information, Hillary is probably trying to hide her candid (i.e., snotty) remarks about other people like Obama himself, members of his administration, American politicians of both parties, foreign leaders, foreign countries, the American people, and the like. Remember the furor over her rude and dismissive statements about foreign leaders that were revealed in the wikileaks incident? More recently, she was criticized for emailed minutiae like asking a staff member to get her some iced tea. Hillary’s presumed-secret conversations between and among members of her inner circle undoubtedly reveal her to be incompetent, vapid, tyrannical, abusive, arrogant, well, that list could go on for pages and pages. People who don’t understand and don’t really care about the management of classified info do understand old-lady harpies and their bad personality traits. The release of hidden emails that reveal her true character would likely damage her as much if not more than her illegal acts.

Rush Limbaugh had the funniest take on this scumbag’s predicament:

“Clinton’s server was in a bathroom in Denver. So now there are toilet jokes, such as, “Hillary’s dump of e-mails is so big you need a plunger.” “Those who said that Hillary didn’t give a crap will national security were dead wrong.” “Hillary on the server controversy: ‘I ain’t no ways turd!'” “Code name for her server wipe: Tidy Bowl.”