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#Ferguson Updates – Is the worst over?

#Ferguson Updates – Is the worst over?

What will the media do now?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/18/ferguson-national-guard-michael-brown-jay-nixon/14219621/

The latest developments, a growing list, feel free to add more in the comments:

NY Times, Missouri National Guard to Withdraw From Ferguson as Tensions Ease:

As tensions on the streets here seemed to ease on Thursday, Gov. Jay Nixon ordered the Missouri National Guard to begin withdrawing from the city.

“I greatly appreciate the men and women of the Missouri National Guard for successfully carrying out the specific, limited mission of protecting the Unified Command Center so that law enforcement officers could focus on the important work of increasing communication within the community, restoring trust, and protecting the people and property of Ferguson,” Mr. Nixon said in a statement.

He said that order in the city had been largely restored and that the presence of the National Guard was no longer needed.

Is the Trayvon case really the prototype to use? Well, maybe, if you want a prototype of a rush to judgment based on inflammatory racial accusations that had no basis in evidence:

Even WaPo now is reporting on the alleged eye socket fracture to the police officer:

The signs of easing tensions came as a family friend of the officer who fatally shot Brown came forward to allege new details of the incident, saying that the officer suffered a fracture to his eye socket in a scuffle with the unarmed teenager before opening fire.

Hospital X-rays of the injury have been submitted to the St. Louis County prosecuting attorney and will be shared with a grand jury now weighing evidence to determine whether Officer Darren Wilson should be charged in the shooting. The friend, who has been in contact with family members, asked not to be named because of fear of threats.

Some info on Michael Brown’s autopsy: What it can (and can’t) tell us.

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Ha, Ha, Ha…. CNN reporting that the xrays are negative. There is no eye socket injury. After axing for the photos of his face, that eye socket injury trial balloon when somewhere, not saying it’s a lie, just blather without anyone knowing the real facts.

    Ragspierre in reply to steveo1. | August 21, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    Link please…

    Ragspierre in reply to steveo1. | August 21, 2014 at 4:16 pm

    I am REEEEAL curious about WHO asked for what. Because there are a lot of people who BETTER not give a photo to anybody with proper process.

    Sanddog in reply to steveo1. | August 21, 2014 at 5:13 pm

    Forgive me for being suspicious about anything CNN has to say. I still remember how they slanted their coverage in Iraq to protect the Baghdad bureau.

    bildung in reply to steveo1. | August 21, 2014 at 5:47 pm

    My understanding is that X-rays are not relevant in this instance, as the occipital floor between the eye and the sinus does not show up on X-rays.

    A CT scan is necessary for the determination.

    And CNN also reported that Barack Jr. had his hands up and tried not to report he was a felonious thug…and on and on.

    Whether the eye is blown out or not, it doesn’t change the fact of an assault on Wilson, establishing a clear willingness to re-assault him before the firing of the shots.

    But the notion of a serious injury to Wilson is nearly fatal to the Barack Jr. narrative, which is why the Soviet style media absolutely must counter it with something.

      James IIa in reply to bildung. | August 21, 2014 at 5:57 pm

      Yeah, fracture would be an injury to the bone, and evident on X-rays, while a blowout is damage to softer tissues surrounding the eye. It’s possible to have either or both. That’s based on public information. I’m not an expert.

        alaskabob in reply to James IIa. | August 21, 2014 at 6:08 pm

        The term blowout refers to the type of fracture leading to the contents of the orbital fossa herniating into the adjacent sinus. Both the inferior and medial orbital walls are very thin. We are talking direct blow to the eye over-pressurizing the fossa contents. I imagine his vision was not immediately the greatest and 3D vision iffy in the immediate time frame.

      alaskabob in reply to bildung. | August 21, 2014 at 6:02 pm

      Plain x-rays may show an air-fluid level in the underlying maxillary sinus raising suspicion that goes on to CT. The medial orbital wall is also vulnerable being very thin. Depending on the extend of herniation of orbital contents, with extra-ocular muscles can be entrapped and/or double vision occur. The supposed coronal CT slice in the news had a small left sided blow out fracture with air fluid level in the sinus, but the name was blanked out. If the hospital the officer went to has only Toshiba Aquilion CT scanner(s) than that can help begin figuring out where the image came from.

        Gremlin1974 in reply to alaskabob. | August 21, 2014 at 7:12 pm

        The only image I have seen is a common image that has been around for several years to show a “blowout fracture” and is positively not Officer Wilson’s CT image.

    Mercyneal in reply to steveo1. | August 21, 2014 at 6:04 pm

    But Washington Post reports a source who said he did have a fractured eye socket. I will go with them over CNN any day.

    Gremlin1974 in reply to steveo1. | August 21, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    So far CNN is the only one reporting this and then only about 1/2 way through 1 story, from an un-named source. They also are not saying anything about an X-Ray being negative.

    I would like to point out that the official report from the Assistant Chief never claimed he had a fracture.

    In any event even if he did’t have a fracture if his face and eye were still swollen it is still evidence of an attack and could also have affected his vision.

    Sanddog in reply to steveo1. | August 21, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    CNN has 1 source. Jim Hoft had two separate sources from two different agencies.

    Gremlin1974 in reply to steveo1. | August 21, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    Also, the Orbital Blowout fracture could have been what we in medicine refer to as a “Working Diagnosis”.

    Basically to get approval to do any kind of advanced testing these days you have to have a diagnosis or the testing isn’t approved. Yes, I know it doesn’t make sense because you need the testing to actually make the diagnosis, but there you go. We used to use what was called a “Rule Out Diagnosis” (i.e. Patient with abdominal pain we would use ‘Rule out Appendicitis’) but that went out the window a few years ago.

    In a case where someone has had blunt force trauma to the area around the eye, the doctor would want a CT scan. So to get the CT scan the Doctor comes up with a probable diagnosis to justify the test. Since an Orbital blowout fracture is a common injury for this kind of situation the doctor very well may have put an initial diagnosis of Blowout fracture to just be able to get the CT scan he needed to make sure that Wilson’s orbit wasn’t actually fractured and that is were the diagnosis came from

    Remember Medicine is far from an exact science and when you are dealing with insurance companies it just makes it that much more difficult.

      Mercyneal in reply to Gremlin1974. | August 21, 2014 at 8:21 pm

      And the Washington Post has a third source- a family friend.

      alaskabob in reply to Gremlin1974. | August 21, 2014 at 8:37 pm

      In the ER setting of acute trauma, insurance approval is not necessary as in an outpatient setting with “walkie-talkie” patients. The plain x-rays are a usual first step unless more significant history and/or findings such as loss of consciousness or bleeding from the ear will lead immediately to more advanced imaging.

        Gremlin1974 in reply to alaskabob. | August 22, 2014 at 12:17 am

        Yes, I understand that, however, that doesn’t change the working diagnosis, I have been a nurse for 20 years and have no plans to retire yet. They still do the working diagnosis even in the ER, because eventually it is all reviewed by the insurance company, and Orbit fracture isn’t an unreasonable diagnosis for someone with blunt trauma to that area.

I hope…though I have some doubts…that pulling the Guard out is not premature.

We will see… Tonight, tomorrow…will tell the tale.

Uuummmmmm….I don’t give a flying doo-daaah whether Mr. 300-lb homeboy broke a Wilsonian bone or not. If he was hanging in that police car trying to bring harm: Baa-Daa-Bing. Like that, Genius.

Midwest Rhino | August 21, 2014 at 4:19 pm

I hope there is no major injury to Wilson … doesn’t change the gunshot in the car, or the assault, or the strong arm robbery, or the autopsy that shots were from the front, or that Brown turned and came back at the officer, or …

So the grand jury will wait till October, no matter how clear the evidence? Is that to let things cool down, or to move the racist outrage closer to the election?

    JackRussellTerrierist in reply to Midwest Rhino. | August 21, 2014 at 6:49 pm

    I hope it’s not out of fear such that they’re waiting for the feds to charge. Then they could return a no bill with little pushback, knowing the morons will think Wilson is being prosecuted and wouldn’t know or understand the difference.

accusations that had no basis in evidence

Still no end of those flying around. Like this one –

family friend of the officer who fatally shot Brown came forward to allege new details of the incident, saying that the officer suffered a fracture to his eye socket … The friend, who has been in contact with family members, asked not to be named because of fear of threats.

No basis in evidence there, either. Somebody – nobody is willing to say just who – said so. That’s innuendo, not evidence.

Still nothing but trial balloons coming from officialdom. In other words, they still don’t have a compelling story of self defense a week after the event.

    Ragspierre in reply to tom swift. | August 21, 2014 at 4:41 pm

    “That’s innuendo…”

    No. It isn’t. Get a dictionary.

    Uncle Samuel in reply to tom swift. | August 21, 2014 at 5:47 pm

    I’d say someone in the higher realms of area law enforcement is a gifted chess player and media manager. They have dribbled out information at a pace to keep Crump and Company off balance and lacking credibility. Just enough, timed perfectly. Bet they have more to release when ‘Sunshine law’ demands it. It has been fun to watch…especially after the Trayvon Martin fiasco cooked up by political agenda beholden prosecutors and crooked lawyers in Florida.
    Hopefully, the Prosecutor in charge in Missouri loves the law and his integrity more than money or fear of crooks and thugs.
    Hopefully, Holder/Obama and company can’t get to the Grand Jury or take over the case.
    Hopefully, the law enforcement entities in Missouri will protect Officer Wilson, who by all evidence did nothing wrong.

    steveo1 in reply to tom swift. | August 22, 2014 at 7:40 am

    ex-cop on one of the networks said that he believed that the officer had some type of facial injury, swelling whatever, but he said officers sometimes have to accept the fact that sometimes they get punched, but you don’t shoot back for that. If this was a road rage case with two citizens, the driver of the car would already have been arrested.

      Ragspierre in reply to steveo1. | August 22, 2014 at 9:24 am

      Bullspit.

      On several levels. Cops DO get in physical altercations. But they ALWAYS have to consider the threat level. And that varies HUGELY.

      Same with a CCW person.

      Gremlin1974 in reply to steveo1. | August 22, 2014 at 11:48 am

      So let me get this strait. A Network managed to find someone who is an ex-cop that they could pay to parrot the narrative.

      OMG, hang on while I adjust my entire world view! /sarc off

Oh, and another sensitive thought: How about the enabled, entitled, gimme, droopy-drawers losers in the 50-year Great Society Zone try on some Big Boy Pants and take some responsibility for your cheap selves?? How’bout staying with the home girls you’re so vastly busy impregnating?? Ya know, Homeys, tie the marital knot, get a job and a life. Huh, bros..? Any Dudes listening?? Nope, didn’t think so.

    Not A Member of Any Organized Political in reply to NeoConScum. | August 21, 2014 at 6:33 pm

    “Big Boy Pants?” You mean “Depends” like Obama wears under his “Mommy Pants?”

I think the worst is over….for the moment. If and when the railroading of Wilson falls apart, there will likely be unrest again.

How long before they deem it wise to back away from this mess?

Chump and Parks have tried to control the narrative but have not succeeded. At some point they will begin to walk away.

    Uncle Samuel in reply to Aussie. | August 21, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    UNLESS this is a pre-election politics (save Obama’s A$$ from his own high crimes and misdemeanors of which there have been many) maneuver.

      Not A Member of Any Organized Political in reply to Uncle Samuel. | August 21, 2014 at 6:31 pm

      of course it is – nothing else

      JackRussellTerrierist in reply to Uncle Samuel. | August 22, 2014 at 12:58 am

      I really don’t see this as beneficial to obamullah regarding any elections. First, he’s not running. Second, he doesn’t care about anyone else. Three, HOW would the events in Ferguson help? Black voter turnout? Maybe, but that’s it, and there would be a corresponding increase in white voter turnout, so I just don’t see any big upside for obamullah.

    Ragspierre in reply to Aussie. | August 21, 2014 at 6:23 pm

    Oh, I think Jay Nixon has his head aflame over his stupid. It will be days…at least…before you hear from him again unless something happens that just MAKES him speak.

      DKlein in reply to Ragspierre. | August 21, 2014 at 8:11 pm

      Heard earlier that Nixon spoke to MSNBC earlier, said he will NOT remove the prosecutor and that he will NOT be appointing a special prosecutor.

      It was a ‘tweet’ from that Chris Hays guy. Urged viewers to tune in for full interview, that sort of thing. I have no cable and would not watch MSNBC even if I did.

Char Char Binks | August 21, 2014 at 5:20 pm

What if this was a Moby attack? I mean a false claim of a broken eye socket intended to be disproven later, thus discrediting the idea that Wilson was attacked at all?

Well, according to the one update, the X Rays are certainly negative for Dareen McFadden . . ..

Should read Darren McFadden.

    Desert_Rat45 in reply to Desert_Rat45. | August 21, 2014 at 7:28 pm

    Yes, It was an poor attempt at humor which obviously failed. The point I was trying to make was that Don Lemon probably wouldn’t know a football player’s ankle bone from a police officer’s eye socket.

A “source”, a generic “source”. That’s good enough to sponsor another lynch mob. These people are well versed to incite violent conflicts.

That said, this isn’t a presidential election. Not only is a play-by-play full of speculation and insinuation counterproductive, but it can and does have mortal consequences. The public space has become a playground adjudicated by juveniles.

Oh, never mind. This is just part of the game of life. It’s not for the timid.

Henry Hawkins | August 21, 2014 at 7:30 pm

Has anyone heard Rachel Jeantel’s take on all this yet?

This was on another site today – interesting.

Among the demands of the “protesters” in Ferguson is that the investigation and prosecution of police officer Darren Wilson be taken away from St. Louis County Prosecutor Robert McCulloch.

McCulloch is biased, it is said. How so? In 1964, his father, a St. Louis police officer, was shot to death by an African-American.

    Gremlin1974 in reply to walls. | August 22, 2014 at 12:20 am

    So I guess the narrative would be that since a black man shot his father he hates all black folks? I mean who would believe that he would just blame the individual regardless of color.

      JackRussellTerrierist in reply to Gremlin1974. | August 22, 2014 at 1:08 am

      WHO would believe that, you ask.

      Just keep telling yourself that it’s alleged that a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

I just saw on tv that the ACLU requested a copy of the incident report completed by Wilson after the shooting. Police claim one was not written on advise from Wilson’s attorney. Is this a problem…it sure seems like it would be…unless the police have a video of Wilson explaining what happened. Is this going to be a problem for Wilson. I sure hope Wilson at least wrote out what happened before he left the police station. Any lawyers out there want to explain the significance of this?

    Gremlin1974 in reply to mwsomerset. | August 22, 2014 at 12:26 am

    If he was actually injured then he may not have been able to write an incident report.

    They might be just going to depose (sp?) him instead of doing an incident report, since the investigation was pretty much turned over to the county almost immediately.

    Char Char Binks in reply to mwsomerset. | August 24, 2014 at 2:42 pm

    He would have been a fool to write an incident report. Anything he says will be used against him, in court and out.

BannedbytheGuardian | August 22, 2014 at 12:08 am

I just donated to Darren’s Gofundme account . Its genuine ( details at Gateway Pundit ) .

It is up to $189, 797 . Every bit helps money & morale wise .

In regard to question in title above:

1. Anonymous group’s planned Day of Rage scheduled for this past Thursday in multiple cities around the country failed. Haven’t heard much from Ferrakhan and the Nation of Islam. Is their group behind all the Anonymous masks in Ferguson? [Note their Anonymous motto – no forgiveness, no forgetting. Sure sounds a lot like the Nation of Islam and Islam in general.]

2. Some foreign entities (including the UN, of course) have taken an interest in the poor beleaguered victimized blacks in the USA. Ayatollah Khamenei of Iran and the Gaza folks have piped up. ISIS is trying to recruit from among the mostly Chicago, East St. Louis agitators acting out in Ferguson. Will foreign interests (Islamists, Russia, China, NKorea) try to use blacks to stir up chaos and weaken US?

3. Agitator in Chief and Agitator General, the NBPP and their BGI Agitator buddies from Crump to Sharpton have been trying to stir up enough trouble in Ferguson to restore Obama’s poll numbers before the election, like they did with the 2012 election and the Trayvon Martin case.

They need a smokescreen and noisy distraction to cover Obama’s constant stream of lies, violations of law, abuses of power, high crimes and misdemeanors.
Such as:
– Obama administration weaponizing the IRS and every other branch of government against dissent and opposition
– Obama open border and amnesty policy and thousands of sick children, teens, gangs, flooding into US
– failure of response to NJ storm
– the lies about and failure of Obamacare, cost of websites due to corruption, cronyism.
– barbaric actions of ISIS a morphing of Al Queda and various jihad groups, originally sold to US congress and taxpayers as ‘Syrian rebels’ and ‘Libyan rebels’ and ‘Arab Spring’ which have been armed and funded by US through Benghazi and Turkey.
– actions of Boko Haram (which has joined with ISIS and which is still not on the State Department list of foreign terror groups.
– the failure and disturbing consequences of Obama’s Arab Spring everywhere it occurred.
– Benghazi and failure to protect US personnel
– unlawful Bergdahl swap for 5 brutal terrorists
– Election and Voter fraud, Holder opposition to Voter ID
– Fast and Furious
– US Marine in Mexico prison
– obscene, irresponsible spending, funneling money to cronies and malignant foreign interests like Hamas.
This is not a complete list by any means.

Though the media tries to hide Obama’s actions, and blame any opposition on racism, most Americans only care about Obama’s actions and veracity, not the color of his skin.

Henry Hawkins | August 22, 2014 at 3:44 pm

If you want to donate to Officer Wilson’s fund:

http://www.gofundme.com/OfficerWilsonFundraiser

They had to switch GoFundMe pages for procedural reasons, and their software makes the new page’s running count start at zero, so add $234,000 to whatever running total you see on the new page, which was the approx amount collected at the time of the new page set-up.

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