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Sellout’s comin’

Sellout’s comin’

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From Micky Kaus, a prediction as to what will be in the House proposals we will receive as soon as next week, The Coming GOP Amnesty Sellout Push

Lobbyists, on the march! The coming weeks will see the formal start of the GOP House leadership’s attempt to sneak an immigration amnesty through the Republican caucus and into law. We don’t know the exact details of the proposals, but we know enough:

1) There will be some form of legalization (conditional amnesty) for the 11 million illegal immigrants already here. It won’t give them a “special” path to citizenship, but they will likely be able to pursue citizenship through regular old channels. Either way, the message sent to potential future immigrants will be, “If you come here illegally, you’ll get to stay legally.” Plus, once the bill has passed the Democratic campaign to paint the GOP as racist for not granting general citizenship to the whole group will begin.

2) There will be an attempt to describe Speaker Boehner’s “piecemeal” collection of immigration bills as an “enforcement first” arrangement that will prevent another, future illegal wave despite the incentive created by what will be two successive amnesties…. That means a convoluted debate over “triggers,” the traditional playground for legislative legerdemain.*** Legalizers will try to make the prequisites look tough when they aren’t — certainly nothing that can’t be easily dismantled once the undocumented get their documents. Do not count on the press to correct this misimpression. They’re in the “fool the rubes” camp too.

An important part of all this will be Democrats pretending to fall on their swords just to get something passed. That’s just a guess.

Oh wait!

I cheated, I already read The Hill, Democrats must decide how far to bend on immigration reform:

Congressional Democrats and advocates for immigration reform will have to decide how much to bend as they await proposals from House Republicans that are likely to fall far short of what they have demanded.

House GOP leaders plan to release as soon as next week their principles for rewriting the nation’s immigration laws, a document that could be followed by a series of legislative proposals.

The principles are expected to be broad-brush in nature and emphasize border and interior security measures, but they are likely to include a first-ever official House GOP endorsement of legal status for many of the nation’s 11 million illegal immigrants, according to people familiar with the deliberations.
Left-leaning advocates say they are encouraged by the move and view it as another critical step in the GOP’s shift on immigration over the last several years.

“We feel like the dynamics in the House are definitely tilting in our favor right now,” said Marshall Fitz, director of immigration policy at the Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank.

At the same time, Fitz and other advocates are preparing for the likelihood they will be frustrated both by the substance and the lack of detail in the GOP document.

I have seen the future.

Sellout’s comin’.
Sellout’s comin’.
Well you better hide your heart, your loving heart
Sellout’s a-comin’ and the cards say… a broken heart

(Featured Image: Rep. Jared Polis (D-CO) during immigration reform speech)

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The GOP voters don’t want immigration amnesty, but the GOP establishment is run by big business and they want cheap labor.

My personal position on immigration is secure the borders, and then we’ll talk. But this push by the RINO’s against the will of the rank and file will only increase the numbers and influence of the Tea Party, at the expense of the Republican establishment. Bring it on.

    Fenster314 in reply to CTimbo. | January 20, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    Here’s the question, if the President will not enforce the immigration laws, then what’s the point in passing more laws? No matter how many armies of men and fences and machines are put in the law, it’s meaningless if Obama (or any President) can simply wave his hand and they all stand down.

    If Republicans had an ounce of integrity, the proper path forward is to tell Obama, if you want immigration reform, then prove to us that you can and will do your job.

    ConradCA in reply to CTimbo. | January 21, 2014 at 1:25 am

    Make illegal immigration a felony that prevents future citizenship and gives a minimum 1 year prison sentence.

Amnesty is now polling about 2% and is rated as lowest legislative priority in America. If the GOP pushes this I hope they crack apart — finally and irrecoverably.

Boehner, Cantor, and the rest of the leadership like being the leaders. They know fully well the feelings of their caucus and their base on this issue. They also know they are headed for a good midterm election if they don’t screw things up.

So forgive me for laughing at all these unsourced rumors about what Boehner is going to do. What he has BEEN doing is keep the issue on the back burner but not far enough back for the Democrats to make too much hay over it.

Once again: do you know how things work in the House? To date, there have been ZERO committee hearings and there are NO bills being marked up.

I’ve been hearing all sorts of wild and paranoid predictions about what Boehner “is about to do” every since he assumed the Chair. So far, the squawking wacko birds are 0-everything. None have apologized either to Boehner or to the rest of us for their false cries of “Wolf!”

    Estragon were you the guy who berated us Tea Party types because we supported Cruz in the shut-down? Who argued that the adults of the Republican party needed to enact their grand strategies to defund obamacare, preserve the sequester and hold the line on taxes?

    If so, it did not work.

    Obamacare is funded, taxes and spending are up and military veterans are having their benefits cut and the sequester is kaput. courtesy of the GOP.

    And now, we are to trust your words on this.

    mmmmmmmmkay.

      Estragon in reply to gettimothy. | January 21, 2014 at 12:40 am

      I supported the “clean CR” Boehner was ready to pass and had the votes to pass, which preserved the sequester as it was.

      AFTER Cruz’ grandstanding and public opinion was against us, that was no longer going to get past Reid. So Cruz screws it up, we get a worse deal, AND YOU BLAME ME FOR IT?

      As an added bonus, the distraction of three weeks in October made sure Terry McAuliffe won in Virginia, too.

      Yeah, you guys are Sooper Geniuses, all right.

        The Tea-Party electing Ted Cruz and Mike Lee did a wonderful job in exposing the GOP for what they are rather than what they pretended to be; this is to our liberties benefit.

        No Estragon, I do not blame you for the GOP being the GOP. I just think you are an idiot.

        mmmmmmkay?

    Karen Sacandy in reply to Estragon. | January 20, 2014 at 10:16 pm

    Estragon a/k/a John McCain, Senior Senator from Arizona.

    stevewhitemd in reply to Estragon. | January 20, 2014 at 11:27 pm

    Estragon, I appreciate that you’re trying to calm things down, but you’re making the classic ‘hockey’ mistake.

    You’re skating to where the puck is, not to where it will be.

    Yes, no bills are filed to date, and nothing has been marked up.

    But as the recent Omnibus bill (wretch) has shown, bills can move through the House quickly when everyone wants the bill to move. Bills have circumvented committees before. Bills have been read on weekends and in the dead of night.

    From what the news says, there is considerable pressure on the Pubs in the House by lobbyists who want this bill done. Said lobbyists are employing all the usual tricks of the trade. Pubs are as susceptible to those tricks as any other politician.

    Where’s the puck headed? Amnesty-lite sandwiched in-between the primaries and the general election. Say just before the summer recess in the hopes that by the time Congress comes back for the fall the general election will be in full swing, and the ordinary Pub voters are again given a choice as to hold their nose and push out a chad.

      Estragon in reply to stevewhitemd. | January 21, 2014 at 12:37 am

      The operative phrase is “when everyone wants it to move.”

      Amnesty certainly doesn’t meet that category. There is no bill, as I said.

      You are choosing to believe the imagination of Mickey Kaus and the fantasy of some kid at The Week who doesn’t even draw a paycheck. Neither cites a single source who would be in any position to know.

      If you think Boehner leaks his plans to Kaus and an intern for Talking Points Memo, there is really no point in talking to you.

        stevewhitemd in reply to Estragon. | January 21, 2014 at 8:57 am

        I’m comfortably certain that Boehner doesn’t talk to Kaus.

        Then again, Kaus is — you know — a reporter. A real one, used to digging to get stuff. I don’t believe everything Kaus says, but I don’t dismiss him either.

        Kaus isn’t the only person talking about the GOP sellout on amnesty. It’s not Democrats doing all the bloviating and snickering. There are a lot of lobbyists who make clear that they want GOP votes for amnesty.

        Look where the puck is headed.

    caseym54 in reply to Estragon. | January 21, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    A lot of this periodic furor is territory-marking. Messages are being sent that this or that is anathema to the “base”.

    A lot of it is blurred (what is “amnesty”?), a lot of questions are unasked and unsanswered (“ship them all home? Or what?”).

    A lot of it is just wank. Kaus’ economic arguments are completely hogwash. It is cheap illegal laborers who are killing the American construction labor market, not some mythical legalized Mexicans who would have to be paid the same as anyone else. The idea of keeping people out of labor markets to prop up (union) wages isn’t exactly a Republican one. It went out with Walter Mondale. Why does Kaus bring it back?

    If there is a House bill on immigration, I think it will be a good one. It will surely be far better than the Democrat’s amnesty + subsidy plan.

Doug Wright Old Grouchy | January 20, 2014 at 5:17 pm

Perhaps a defining moment for the GOP, one that defines the instant when it lost its rudder and crashed into the rocks of voter discontent!

On the other hand, Boehner could listen to the people, who do not want amnesty given to the many millions of illegals living here. With so many people unemployed who want to work, who are able to work, this push to grant amnesty doesn’t make economic sense nor political sense.

Lesse…

we are gonna solve the problem of having millions of Americans out of work by…

cramming millions of “new” workers into the economy.

Logic?

Henry Hawkins | January 20, 2014 at 5:58 pm

You know what? We should try a representative government in this country.

Republican voters need to sit on their asses and not vote for any republicans for congress, just vote to get the senate’s chamber into republican hands. Primary all republicans who vote for amnesty.

11,000,000? Try 30,000,000.

The great American sellout.

    AZ_Langer in reply to walls. | January 20, 2014 at 9:26 pm

    We can’t keep those families apart, that would just be mean.

    Don’t forget though, S.744 allows the importation of hundreds of thousands more, including unskilled workers to do the jobs that politicians say Americans (and of course the newly-amnestied) don’t want to do.

The House should refuse to pass any bills while Tyrant Obama is still in office. He doesn’t pay any attention to the law so any compromises are worthless.

WE fund the GOP.
WE have the power to vote them in and out of office.

The fact that we collectively tolerate these backstabbing bozos selling us out means we deserve exactly what we get from them.

someone left “unexpectedly” out of this story… 😉

The current illegal situation has to be fixed, and ignoring it, or pretending we are going to ship 15 million people south is just posturing. But we have to see what we did wrong last time and not repeat the same errors.

The Reagan amnesty included a citizenship process and no real understanding or reform of the immigration laws, particularly regarding Mexico. The end result was that illegal immigration from Mexico metastasized.

Any new law has to fix these mistakes.

1) There has to be a severe cost for illegal immigration. This should include a lifetime bar on citizenship, at least on adult illegals, and a goodly fine. The fine can be in the form of a non-dischargeable debt, perhaps $20K per person. Call it a tax for Justice Roberts’ sake.

2) We have to recognize that the legal quota for Mexico has got to be larger than it is. The current quota does not cover immigration due to marriage and family, let alone people who want to come and work. There is no immigration line to stand in, so no one does. Our low quota has resulted in massive overflows; we should have numbers that can work rather than pretend ones.

3) We have to ruthlessly enforce the law in the future, cutting off all federal funds to any jurisdiction that fails to cooperate with the Feds on this.

4) A fence, for what good it does; I’m not convinced it will do much good. I could be wrong.

5) An end to automatic citizenship for children born to mothers illegally present. Mama has to have a valid entry permit for it to count. Visa or day pass or green card or whatever, but she has to have had leave to enter.

“pretending we are going to ship 15 million people south is just posturing”

No, pretending that we NEED to ship them south is whats posturing. Its a strawman. We already seen that if we simply remove the incentives, they will ship themselves back home.

    caseym54 in reply to Fen. | January 22, 2014 at 7:32 pm

    Perhaps some newly arrive folks will (and likely have) gone back to Mexico. But people who’ve been here for a while, gotten married, had kids, put down roots? Quite unlikely.

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