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Comparing the Responses to Target and Obamacare Security Risks

Comparing the Responses to Target and Obamacare Security Risks

Target is my favorite store…so when it came time to bust-out my holiday shopping, using my store debit card and getting 5% discounted was a no-brainer.

Sadly, that meant I was left in the security lurch along with 40 million other customers.

Law enforcement, including the U.S. Secret Service and the state attorneys general of New York and Massachusetts are looking into the matter. The chain said today that there have been few reports of fraud and that customers won’t be held responsible for any that took place.

The breach occurred when a computer virus infected Target’s point-of-sale terminals, said a person familiar with the matter who asked not to be identified because the investigation is private. Swiping cards had been considered safer than shopping online because the data is harder to steal, according to Dan Kaminsky, co-founder and chief scientist at White Ops, a cybersecurity firm in New York.

“Attacks of this scale are common, but attacks that get this class of data are unusual,” Kaminsky said. “It’s a war out there.”

Once I heard, I made many failed attempts to cancel the card via phone. In the meantime, I had my bank stop all payments on the card. Unhappily, other Target customers were not so lucky:

Jami Aspenwall, a 36-year-old mother of five from Cartersville, Georgia, said she canceled her Target-issued debit card after someone made $500 in purchases with it. Those losses will now force her to postpone a trip to Tampa, Florida, to see relatives for Christmas because her bank said it may take two weeks to get the money back.

Such an economic challenge such during the most important shopping season is troubling on many levels. In fact, the Department of Justice is now conducting an investigation, with an assist from the US Secret Service.

The investigation comes after Target revealed last week that data connected to about 40 million credit and debit card accounts were stolen between Nov. 27 and Dec. 15. Security experts say it’s the second-largest theft of card accounts in U.S. history, surpassed only by a scam that began in 2005 involving retailer TJX Cos. That affected at least 45.7 million card users.

…The Department of Justice declined to comment on whether it’s investigating the breach at Target, the nation’s second-largest discounter. But Target said that it’s cooperating with the DOJ’s probe.

The news came as Target also said that it is working with the U.S. Secret Service in the retailer’s own investigation and that its general counsel held a conference call on Monday with state attorneys general to bring them up to date on the breach.

It beggars the imagination to anticipate what the group that spearheaded “Fast and Furious” and the team that has become infamous for “booze-fueled antics” and Colombian call-girls will uncover.

Perhaps what should be more concerning to investigators are Obamacare-related security breaches. Yet, it doesn’t rise to the same level of concern for the Washington “smart set”.

When the federal Obamacare exchange was being developed by HHS prior to its troubled launch on Oct. 1, experts told the department that it should include a data-breach provision in its policies for the website even though one was not required under federal law.

The department flatly declined to do so.

And, given the extensive amount of personal information on given during the Obamacare application process,I fear that certain entities (i.e. Iran, China) are actually paying more attention to the situation than the people we trust to handle these matters.

I can only wonder if Obama is going to promise 10% off the bronze plan after all the complaints!


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I stopped shopping at Target years ago when they refused to allow the Salvation Army to place their bell ringers at Christmas. However, I broke my rule in early December because I needed something quickly. Fortunately, I payed in cash!

    dinker in reply to Tregonsee. | December 26, 2013 at 6:06 pm

    I stopped shopping there also for the same reason but this type of breech shouldn’t happen anywhere! I think it was probably a inside job!


    ANS; YOU CAN’T!!


I saw Chuck Schumer demagoguing the Target breech. But Obamacare? What’s good for the goose …

No doubt the Soetero regime will try to blame private-sector firms such as Target for any identify-theft when gets hacked and people start getting scammed.

It makes my blood boil to realize that these thugs passed this law in such a way that existing federal law regarding security and disclosure do not apply. Some animals are more equal than others, I suppose.

I think that pin numbers should also used in tandem with random number generators at the time of purchase. Then the exact numbers entered at that momnet of time can never be repeated.

Also, physicists in the future may be able to use the status of atomic level “spinors” in just such a manner, thereby making it impossible to repeat the pin number.

Not A Member of Any Organized Political | December 26, 2013 at 12:21 pm

RE: “Perhaps what should be more concerning to investigators are Obamacare-related security breaches. Yet, it doesn’t rise to the same level of concern for the Washington “smart set.”

Maybe that’s because some of them are stealing credit and debit card info also from the Obamascare website?

Snark Snark

Not A Member of Any Organized Political | December 26, 2013 at 1:06 pm

Some good links on this over at Mish’s Global Economic Analysis

•November 25 CNBC: No security ever built into Obamacare site: Hacker

The almost non-existant Obamascare web site security has been repeatedly been described as Hacker’s wet dreams.

What is most interesting about this whole deal is that MARKETS have already offered responses to threats, and that MARKET players spend millions to prevent theft…including electronic theft.

Are the defenses 100%? Of course not. Motivated thieves will always find ways to manage theft.

If we did not find the use of electronic transactions so much in our self-interest, we would not use them.

And there is no law saying you can’t use cash or some other means.

Not so with ObamaDoggle.

Opinionated Vogon | December 26, 2013 at 1:17 pm

Obamacare’s lack of security is just one of the points I make with my new parody video!

A Day In the Life (under ObamaCare)



Not A Member of Any Organized Political | December 26, 2013 at 3:09 pm


“As Part of Obama’s Symbolic Gesture Signing Up for ObamaCare He Didn’t Sign Up His Family, and Needed Help to Do It -Posted by Jammie on Dec 23, 2013 at 2:26 pm

“Is he just too cheap? We know he and his family are paid for by the taxpayers, but since he was pretending to go through the motions of signing up, wouldn’t it make sense to sign his family up as well? No, instead he went with the cheapest possible plan and only registered himself. What a joke this man is.

NC Mountain Girl | December 26, 2013 at 4:05 pm

I stopped shopping at Target when I could not find a single item in the store one December that said Merry Christmas rather than Happy Holidays, not even among the boxed “Holiday Cards”.

Target lost me as a customer when they went all-in promoting the gay agenda.

Just sell me stuff, don’t jam your radical political agenda down my throat.

Fortunately, a few months later, Walmart built next door and Target closed permanently a year after that.