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Zimmerman’s new lawyer, old guns

Zimmerman’s new lawyer, old guns

George Zimmerman has hired Jayne Weintraub to defend the domestic assault charges arising out of accusations from Zimmerman’s girlfriend, Samantha Scheibe:

George Zimmerman has hired a new lawyer to handle the domestic violence case against him.

The public defender who was representing Zimmerman tells local media that he has hired attorney and frequent cable news contributor Jayne Weintraub.

As Bob Kealing tells us, some legal analysts are questioning Zimmerman’s new hire.

“It really boggles the mind.”

WESH 2 legal analyst Richard Hornsby says it appears George Zimmerman has chosen south Florida defense attorney Jayne Weintraub because of her high profile on cable television.

(Jayne Weintraub)

(Jayne Weintraub)

Court records released today also indicated the weapons Zimmerman had in his possession at the time of his arrest:

The Sheriff’s Office got the warrant, suspecting that Zimmerman had locked away the shotgun after the confrontation but before deputies unlocked the door and pushed their way inside.

Officers found the guns in a black, soft-sided case secured by a combination lock, according to the warrant.

The weapons inside were a KelTec 12-gauge shotgun, a pump-action high-tech, $1,200 self-defense weapon with more than double the capacity of conventional shotguns; the assault rifle; a .380-caliber handgun; a 9 mm handgun and a Glock 19 handgun.

Deputies also found more than 100 rounds of ammunition. The greatest quantity — 59 rounds — was for the rifle, according to the warrant.

The weapons appear to be legal, so despite the sound and fury over Zimmerman possessing the weapons, it’s legally irrelevant.

The replacement of the public defender is interesting because the person assigned to the case was quite experienced, something Think Progress criticized as reflecting some sort of favoritism for Zimmerman.

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Only 100 rounds and 5 different firearms? WTF?

Five firearms call for a MINIMUM of, oh, 1000 rounds, I’d think.

I routinely have 100 rounds just laying around in the car for a single firearm. That’s two boxes of “practice ammo” where I shoot. And at least two magazines of Self Defense rounds ready to rock.

And I consider myself a piker compared to others.

    Yeah, 100 rounds is what I call “Out of ammo.” If I don’t have at least 1000 rounds for everything I own, I’m short on ammo.

      A quote I recently saw is quite fitting in this thread:

      “If you have more rounds than me, you’re a hoarder.
      If you have less rounds than me, you’re unprepared.”


    VetHusbandFather in reply to profshadow. | November 26, 2013 at 10:07 pm

    100 rounds seems pretty reasonable to me. A box of Remington Ultimate Home Defense is all I really keep in the home. Occasionally, I’ll have another box or two of target ammo. But target ammo lasts about as long in my house as anything my wife bakes does.

      Well, maybe what she bakes can be a backup, close range, weapon!

      I go to the range quite a bit. Not as much as I used to, given ammo supply (much better now) and ammo price (better, but still!)

      I actually enjoy it. Sort of like knitting, but with noise and holes and stuff….it makes a great hobby.

        VetHusbandFather in reply to profshadow. | November 26, 2013 at 11:14 pm

        To be honest, I don’t go to the range enough. I enjoy it, but ammo and range fees make it far to costly to be a regular outing for me. Instead it’s an occasional splurge. Once the kids get older I may pickup a .22 so I can go plinking with them without breaking the bank.

      healthguyfsu in reply to VetHusbandFather. | November 27, 2013 at 12:02 am

      I buy in bulk for much, much cheaper and if I’m not going to use for awhile. I stretchwrap or vacuum seal it. Don’t want to have to hunt for ammo in another ammo craze like the last one after Sandy Hook.

    I read somewhere that they found 2 loaded AR magazines, which accounts for the 59 rounds of rifle ammo. Take that out of the equation and you’re left with barely more than a full load for the KSG and a full magazine for the Glock.

    ufo destroyers in reply to profshadow. | November 27, 2013 at 11:44 am

    Let’s just say there is a gravity well in my attic since all the lead is grouped in one spot. And none of it runs downstairs, jumps in a gun, and starts terrorizing the neighborhood.

    “If you have more rounds than me, you’re a hoarder.
    If you have less rounds than me, you’re unprepared.”

    I enjoyed that^ quip.

    Phillep Harding in reply to profshadow. | November 27, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    You are a picker. I think 1000 per firearm, plus magazines. (Should be at least at least enough for 100 cartridges, something I’m working on, plus several speed loaders for any revolvers.)

Oh…it will be interesting to see how this plays out. Was Zimmerman in the wrong or was his “girlfriend” with the fake pregnancy just shopping a story around and decided to up it a notch?

    VetHusbandFather in reply to profshadow. | November 26, 2013 at 10:34 pm

    I think the most condemning thing right now is the part of the police report mentioning that police had to force entry into the home. The accusation that he pointed a firearm at her or smashing the table will largely be a ‘he-said, she-said’ issue unless any further evidence in produced. However, the police report stating they had to force entry into the house because unknown items were blocking the door is a far more objective piece of evidence against Zimmerman in this case.

      MouseTheLuckyDog in reply to VetHusbandFather. | November 26, 2013 at 10:45 pm

      I don’t know that it is. If he were sitting in a chair with a gun to his head telling the police not to come in or he will shoot, that would be one thing.

      According to his version, she was acting violently and wound up outside. According to every one there was a violent confrontation with one side winding up outside, one side winding up inside.

      Blocking entry to prevent the two sides from meeting up until police showed up and diffused the situation seems eminently reasonable to me.

        VetHusbandFather in reply to MouseTheLuckyDog. | November 26, 2013 at 10:52 pm

        It seems reasonable, but he’s preventing her from entering her own home. In the military we always taught Soldiers to remove themselves from the situation. Just get in your care and leave, then there is no question that you are trying avoid further confrontation. By blocking her from her own home there is ambiguity whether or not he was doing so aggressively or defensively. Why give her something that fits her narrative?

          MouseTheLuckyDog in reply to VetHusbandFather. | November 26, 2013 at 10:59 pm

          Cause he was moving out and needed to be in the house to collect his stuff.

          Also I would like to hear the description of barricaded. Did he just have his luggage up against the door? Or a wardrobe?

          VetHusbandFather in reply to VetHusbandFather. | November 26, 2013 at 11:20 pm

          It doesn’t say much more in the written report. Just that the girlfriend gave the police they key and but they had to force the front door because it was blocked by ‘unknown objects’.

          As far as collecting his stuff goes. I would still encourage anyone in the same situation to leave immediately without collecting their stuff. If you end up losing your property/firearms you can always try to recover them later and through small claims court if necessary. Worst case scenario, you have to buy new stuff. Stuff is replaceable. Being found guilty of DV on the other-hand is life changing. You will never be able to own a firearm again. I’m not saying that it’s right or fair, I’m just saying do what you can to protect yourself, and the best thing you can do to protect yourself in that situation, is to remove yourself from the situation.

        I suspect if this goes to trial, which I doubt, we will discover quite a bit about Samantha Scheibe that she will regret being disclosed.

        Someone needs to take George aside and coach him on ‘mate selectivity.’

      Phillep Harding in reply to VetHusbandFather. | November 27, 2013 at 1:52 pm

      Was she likely to go for his eyeballs or jump in front of his ride to force an “assault with a deadly weapon” charge (hey, it works for cops).

      No, locking her out /could/ be the smartest thing he could do. Depending.

Oh Noes!!!

I just picked up another box of 25, ’00’ 12 gauge at Walmart tonight.

I have a damned arsenal!

    profshadow in reply to murkyv. | November 26, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    Crazy Gun Nut! Sheesh!

    Let’s face it, Liberals never realize that guns actually require live rounds to make them work and that they cost money.

    They are use to the “Hollywood” firearm that never runs out of ammo or has 50 rounds in a derringer or such.


    Zimmerman must be broke to only have 100 rounds of ammo.

      VetHusbandFather in reply to profshadow. | November 26, 2013 at 10:39 pm

      Liberals also seem to think that 100 rounds means you can kill 100 people, which is ironic considering Hollywood’s best attempt to show them that any good action hero takes about 100 bullets to kill, and your average villain will only score a hit with one bullet out of each 250 round belt.

    Phillep Harding in reply to murkyv. | November 27, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    Boxes of 25? I need to go swing by and see if there are any left. Those boxes of 5 get expensive.

MouseTheLuckyDog | November 26, 2013 at 10:34 pm

CNN says there is an affidavit around that says that says GZ apparently recorded the incident on his iPhone.

OS claims that in the request for the return of the iPhone the defense claimed there is nothing relevant in the materials they are asking back for, which would indicate that there is nothing on the phone. But, the iPhone should be imaged by the Police as a matter of routine, so they would already have all the evidence.

I have to wonder if Dowdy didn’t somehow arrange for Weintraub to pick up the case. Just using her despite Dowdy’s objections would seem to be too close to burning bridges. It would be extremely dumb to do, so I have to assume that Dowdy approves for some reason.

It does bother me though, because Weintraub has been critical of Zimmerman in the previous case; from what little I know of her. It would not surprise me that some liberal lawyer deliberately takes the case to tank it. Yes she could get disbarred for it, but the notoriety of the being “the lawyer that brought down George Zimmerman” would make up for that. Look how Nancy Grace’s difficulties with the bar hurt her career.

I have to wonder if we are not seeing a glimpse of why Mark O’Mara dumped George. I remember my first communion/confirmation ( in some ways similar to a mitzvah except for Catholics). I was given some money as gifts. I took $10 and spent it on models and comics. I had no intention of spending any of the other money, but it pissed my parents off to no end. I have to wonder if the same thing happened with MoM and the KelTec shotgun.

100 rounds equals = two boxes = very short day at the range.

heck even for a Mortar (81mm) that was considered a light load!

I wonder if they only checked one spot, and he has a lot more ammunition elsewhere?

VetHusbandFather | November 26, 2013 at 10:57 pm

Did he have a 9mm handgun and a Glock 19 or was the Glock 19 the 9mm handgun? Seems that is likely a mistake in the Orlando Sentinel article

    Perhaps they don’t know a Glock 19 IS a 9mm handgun. They know how to parrot AR-15 and Glock but they don’t probably don’t even know the difference between the two.

      VetHusbandFather in reply to Sanddog. | November 26, 2013 at 11:26 pm

      That’s why I think it’s a mistake. I mean its possible that Mr. Zimmerman owns a Glock 19 and another 9mm hand-gun, perhaps he has a subcompact for concealled carry in 9mm, but to me a full size and a subcompact would make more sense then a compact and a subcompact. At any rate I think it is more likely that they just made a mistake.

      rantbot in reply to Sanddog. | November 26, 2013 at 11:56 pm

      The .380 is a 9mm, too. Identical to 9mm Browning Short.

      The press seems unaware that there are a great many nine millimeter calibers. 9mm Parabellum (=9mm Luger, what they usually mean when they say 9mm, even if they don’t know it), 9mm Steyr, 9mm Bergman-Bayard (same as 9mm Largo), 9mm Makarov, 9mm Corto, 9mm Ultra (same as 9mm Police), 38 Auto (shoots through the same barrel as 9mm Largo, though the cartridges aren’t really identical) … and those are just among the guns I happen to own.

      I’m none too sure that the police generally know this stuff, either. Of course any police armorer does, but the rank and file, maybe not.

wasn’t the kal-tec donated to him by the company?

A bumper sticker I saw last weekend: The 2nd Amendment – The Original Homeland Security.

Wish I had my camera with me at the time.

I have at least 100 rounds of ammo safe at home, so I feel homeland secure.

Wow, a while back, I picked up a box of 250 rounds in .40S&W from Gander Mountain. I must have missed the “potential arsenal” warning sticker on the box.

The bare allegation that GZ pointed a shotgun at her is insufficient for felony arrest, IMHO. They have zero evidence that a crime was committed. The broken table might, at best, be evidence of a misdemeanor for which a cop cannot arrest (except for DV).

None of this will survive a pre-trial hearing, regrdless of probable cause.

As far as his choice of attorney goes, go watch the movie And Justice For All.

The change of lawyers is simple. The case is primarily being fought in the media, he needs a media personality to fight back. After all is said in done, Zimmerman should start his own gun manufacturing company focusing on weapons for concealed use.

George Zimmerman is a walking advertisement for Tasers.