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Nuke Deal Reached – Iran gets to keep its enrichment program

Nuke Deal Reached – Iran gets to keep its enrichment program

The details are just coming out, but it appears that Iran gets to keep its uranium enrichment program, albeit on a somewhat reduced level pending 6 months of monitoring. The U.S. agreed not to unilaterally impose new sanctions during this time period, something previously under consideration in Congress with strong bipartisan support. There also will be an easing of some sanctions.

Obama press conference Iran Geneva Agreement

White House Fact Sheet on Iran Nuclear Deal


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The Israeli response to this should be interesting. I suspect that this will be known as John Kerry’s “Chamberlain Moment”.

“We have reached an agreement,” Michael Mann, spokesman for European Union foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton said in a Twitter posting that was echoed in a separate posting by Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif.

The deal, intended as first step toward a more comprehensive nuclear pact to be completed in six months, freezes or reverses progress at all of Iran’s major nuclear facilities, according to Western officials familiar with the details. It halts the installation of new centrifuges and caps the amount and type of enriched uranium that Iran is allowed to produce.

… this deal will be like Communism .. always over the horizon

    TrooperJohnSmith in reply to Neo. | November 24, 2013 at 1:47 am

    I hear that the Mullahs and Grande Olde Ayatollah were given Barack and Michelle Obama PEZ dispensers that dispense Halal candy. They also got commemorative toaster ovens that heat instantly to 1.2-million degrees.

We pray for the peace of Jerusalem and the men and women who protect the people of Israel

Looks like the same deal North Korea got. Fire away Bibi and Godspeed Israel.

Obama is truly treasonous and despicable.

Doug Wright Old Grouchy | November 23, 2013 at 11:17 pm

It’s probably extremely cold at the North Pole, so our Glorious Leader and Esteemed Messiah, He who has been waiting for Himself, will venture to the North Pole and walk on frozen water, to the happy applause of His Loyal Mass Media pundits.

Iranian bombs will not start dropping until after the 2014 USA elections, so sayeth He!

So the deal freezes ‘parts’ of their development: which parts, the parts the Iranians have already figured a way around?

Understand that the deal excludes Iran’s demand that it be allowed to enrich uranium. This means that the “deal” is meaningless: the core is Iran’s plan to enrich uranium to the point that it can build bombs. That’s what all this is about. The Mad Mullahs™ won’t give that away, ever.

“If you like your nukes, you can keep your nukes.” What’s the fuss? I’m sure they swore on a stack of qurans that they wouldn’t vaporize Israel or anyone.

I can’t wait for the Narcissist’s hissy fit when Israel takes out Iran’s plants and the Saudis back them up.

Kerry gave them $3 billion just to return his pants.

BannedbytheGuardian | November 24, 2013 at 12:04 am

Proof that the west has zero influence in the ME . Bombing Libya was its nadir. There is nothing we can do anymore.

    Shut up already. We once had a lot of influence in the Middle East. Once, when we stood by our allies.

      BannedbytheGuardian in reply to edgeofthesandbox. | November 24, 2013 at 2:51 am

      You made my point – once the west had influence but it has none now otherwise the result would be different.

      So another success for Russia. Saved Assad , did not antagonise Egypt , did not bomb Libya & got Iran the deal..

      Not bad. Putin 4 Obama / Cameron / Hollande 0.

        You miss the point. The west has no influence because Obama deliberately chose to reduce American influence. He was the one who decided to “reset” relations with the Arab world and with Russia – and this is what you all got.

        There was no need for this reset. America was the one and only superpower – but Obama’s ideology cannot suffer such an “indignity” as being a superpower. His ideology requires that all ideologies and political systems are equal, putting dictatorships, totalitarian governments, theocracies and democracies on an equal footing.

        But some are more, or rather less equal than others. That would be Israel.

Subotai Bahadur | November 24, 2013 at 1:00 am


There will be war.

And I note that yesterday China declared an ADIZ [Air Defense Identification Zone] over Japanese occupied disputed islands, threatening to attack any aircraft they do not approve of. Japan was looking at us to see what our reaction would be. They just saw us deliver up Israel to nuclear attack, as best we can.

Japan is now aware that we would do the same for them. Japan needs nukes, NOW!

Subotai Bahadur

    Juba Doobai! in reply to Subotai Bahadur. | November 24, 2013 at 2:42 am

    The folks in China constantly talk about a “strong China” and they are speaking militaristically. These are kids talking like that. Programmed cannon fodder. The world has a right to worry because China s very martial. They don’t know yet what war will do to their economy. They view war as the route to power and global respect. They view territorial acquisition as a legitimate goal of war. These are kids saying this, kids who can’t think their way out of a dry paper bag. They’ve been taught this in government schools. Think Hitler was bad? You snot seen yet what the Chinese have in store for the Japanese.

      BannedbytheGuardian in reply to Juba Doobai!. | November 24, 2013 at 3:24 am

      So Japan got away without having to spend on its military for 60 years.

      So they will be helpless against Chinese retribution for Manchuria.

      I might cry.

        You know Ban, if one didn’t know better one would think that your progressive, peaceful nature is a front, and that you’d be happy with Conan the Barbarian style slaughter of your enemies.

        I think Orwell had folks like you pegged a long time ago.

          BannedbytheGuardian in reply to stevewhitemd. | November 24, 2013 at 3:12 pm

          The historic Shinto vs the Mandarins has been in play 1500 years.

          Ninjas vs Kung fu fighters.

          The way of the Samurai vs. ConFucians . Yay .

          Long before I existed babe.

    stevewhitemd in reply to Subotai Bahadur. | November 24, 2013 at 12:36 pm

    Japan need nukes.

    What’s more, Japan can make nukes in a hurry. They have reactors, fast breeders, and plutonium separation down cold. Once you have the ingredients the construction of the bomb itself is just engineering. I hear the Japanese are pretty good at that too.

    The pacifist, anti-nuclear political movement in Japan is strong and has been for the last fifty years, but even they won’t put up with bowing before the Chinese.

    If the prime minister and cabinet give the word Japan can have a working bomb in six months, and a bomb small enough to put on a missile in a year.

You that a part of Obama’s push for a deal is to get Obama-Care off the front pages for a couple of days.

He is indeed reminding us that his astounding incompetence isn’t limited to domestic policy or foreign affairs, but also failing utterly in negotiations appears a specialty.

First, any deal that lets Iran keep their centrifuges lets them eventually have a nuke. Or twelve. Second, “It halts the installation of new centrifuges” can be interpreted so many ways. Their existing centrifuges are disposable, for all practical purposes, with lifespans ranging from hours to weeks. One breaks, valves close, technicians plug in another, and the process continues. Third, they’re going to lie to us, repeatedly, overtly and covertly. If we call them on it, the President will look bad, therefore we’re not going to call them on it.

In short, we gave Iran everything they wanted, and nukes too. When (not if) they use one or two of the first nukes they build on us or Israel…

TrooperJohnSmith | November 24, 2013 at 1:43 am

Two things:

First, he may be counting on the boomeranging of, “If you like your uranium enrichment program, you can keep it promise.”

The second and more likely scenario is that the Prezz-O-Bama knows he can’t and won’t ever stop Iran, even if he was able with a military strike, and if Valerie approved. So, he does the second best thing: he forces Israel’s hand. The result is that Iran is no longer nuclear, and the Prezz-O-Bama can condemn the Joooooooos and gain prestige in the Arab world at the same time. It’s all WIN for the Sh!tbag-in-Chief.

Tar and feathers for Obama and Kerry!

What part of “Death to America! Death to Israel” don’t they understand?

Nuclear Non-Proliferation is dead.

Every tin-horn dictator in the world now knows that the U.S. is a paper tiger. They will all be scrambling to build, buy or steal a nuke of their own.

    turfmann in reply to myiq2xu. | November 24, 2013 at 4:46 pm

    We’re only the paper tiger that Obama makes us. If what’s past is prologue, something dreadful will occur (as if it hasn’t already…) before the next election to encourage us to elect a president that will actually be strong on national defense and will work with America’s best interests first and foremost.

    Hopefully she will also call for the indictment of her predecessor on charges of treason – he fully deserves everything that he’s gonna get.

This “deal” wouldn’t happen to require the consent of the Senate would it?

    aslansfool in reply to labrat. | November 24, 2013 at 5:23 am

    I agree. Does this not require approval by the US Senate or did they abdicate that responsibility as well? And if that is the case does not it require a 2/3’s vote for approval or did Harry Reid’s nuclear option apply to Iran’s nuclear option?

      stevewhitemd in reply to aslansfool. | November 24, 2013 at 12:43 pm

      Approval of a treaty requires consent of the Senate, per Article II, section 2 of the Constitution:

      He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; …

Wow, barry is a shit..umm, shitte, err, shiite. And his mommie use to call him sunni..ahh, sonny..

John Kerry: “We have appease in our time.”

Countdown to this coming back to bite us in the butt, big time and having to rely on the Israelis to “bail” us out, if they don’t bail on the US first for being a fair weather friend.

Kerry just won access to about 1200 miles of Iranian gulf shoreline harbors in which to park his yachts tax-free.