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Very little societal fabric left to tear

Very little societal fabric left to tear

Senior Democrats are engaging in eliminationist rhetoric.

The President of the United States, Democratic Senators, Congressmen, and mainstream journalists have called us terrorists, suicide bombers, insane and racists because we actually want to keep our health insurance and doctors, and want other people to do the same.

It somehow is considered illegitimate and terroristic that we are willing to use lawful and constitutional legislative authority in the form of the House’s funding power to offset Democrats’ power in the Senate and Executive Branch.

Elections matter, and Republicans control the House. Those elections matter just as much as elections for the Presidency and Senate.

As Laurel pointed out earlier, Democratic rhetoric is so extreme from the highest political levels that it now amounts to schoolyard taunts.

We’re not talking left-wing blogs,, or Occupy Wall Street anymore.

We are hearing the most extreme rhetoric from Barack Obama, Dan Pfeiffer, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Dick Durbin, Chuck Schumer and a cast of hundreds in the Democratic Party and mainstream media.

I’d like to say that Democrats risk tearing at the fabric of our society, but there is very little fabric left to tear once the most senior Democrats have gone rhetorically where they have gone in the past two weeks.

Democrats are creating the eliminationist narrative they falsely have been accusing Republicans of creating.

Look in the mirror, folks, you are what you accuse us of being.


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Professor, this tactic is hardly new.

V.I. Lenin did the same in Russia during the revolution:

“Accuse others of what you yourself do.”

The necessary ingredient for this type of attack to work, is a populace that remains in ignorance of the facts.

Welcome to our Brave New World.

    Not A Member of Any Organized Political in reply to Paul. | October 1, 2013 at 2:56 pm

    Plus the Dems and Obama know they have LOST already!

    So they think…. “What can we lose since we lost already!”

    punfundit in reply to Paul. | October 1, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    “Accuse others of what you yourself do.”

    Nailed it!!

    Musson in reply to Paul. | October 1, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    Cruz is right. The House should start passing spending resolutions for the park service and the other high profile shutdowns.

    Make the Senate and the President veto them.

I have a thought for a project. I’m not a hard-core web person and new media person like the Professor, Mandy Nagy or Michelle Malkin, so I wonder if this would work.

Let’s create a “Progressive Eliminationist Quotation Archive”.

The archive (needs a robust database) has the quotes, links and context for the eliminationist commentary from prominent liberals, progressives, socialists and Democrats. Politicians, media, political organizers, people who are in the news qualify, whereas dumb schlubs in their basements do not.

The archive would provide opportunity for the commenter to deny/obfuscate — in fact, the more the better. It would also, of course, have a comments section for ordinary citizens. One could use Discus and some sort of rating system to police that.

The archive would be searchable and indexable. I see it as a tool to be used by other bloggers, journalists, citizens, etc to find these quotes after the media tries to scrub them.

I think it would be useful but I don’t have the chops to do it myself. Thoughts?

    TMLutas in reply to stevewhitemd. | October 1, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    There are plenty of wikis that would do this quite well, many of whom are available without cost or little cost and professionally supported.

No Congress can bind the next one. The Congress which passed the law without any Republican support has been replaced with a Congress having a House disinclined to fund this disaster. This House has been elected twice. Just as the House needs to deal with who was elected to the Senate and Presidency, so those branches need to deal with who was elected to the House. A Senate leader and President behaving like schoolyard bullies, calling names, is not edifying, nor is it responsible.

“You know what else?” Pelosi said. “They’re fakers”

So now Republicans are “fake extreme terrorist hostage takers” ?

    jacksonjay in reply to Neo. | October 1, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    So now Republicans are “fake extreme terrorist hostage takers” ? with bombs strapped to their chest and a gun to our heads?

    Not A Member of Any Organized Political in reply to Neo. | October 1, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    How about we just say Pelosi, Reid, Obama and all those Dems are FAKES?

The federal government has $2.7 trillion in receipts. It operates with a deficit over $1 trillion. There is no justification for either a shutdown or default. Someone is lying.

Obamacare is a revenue generation scheme. It does not address availability or inflated costs of health care. It provides a perception of comfort between subsidized and differential costs. It sponsors corruption by conflating contributory and non-contributory entitlements. Someone is lying.

This isn’t the first time that Obama has threatened granny and the children. He did it before in order to pass Obamacare by threatening to withhold retirement and lunches, respectively. Reid is notorious for drawing red lines and uncompromising direction. Pelosi demanded that we submit in order to learn Obamacare’s burden.

Obama is watching a video, again.

It’s merely a clump of policies. It is not viable. It is a burden. Dismember it. Vacuum it. Flush it. It’s a citizen’s right.

    n.n in reply to n.n. | October 1, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    So that it is clear, I am advocating for the abortion of a clump of policies (i.e. Obamacare), and not abortion of a clump of cells (e.g. Barack, Harry, Nancy).

They can kiss my eliminated *ss.

I would argue that this rhetoric, which has been drastically increased lately had started a few years ago. I would also probably make the argument that this rhetoric is *precisely* the reason for the giant increase in gun and ammunition sales. It ain’t the folks saying these things buying all the guns…

For the first time in a few years it feels like we have a 2 party system. Kudos to the GOP for having the courage to sit down in the snow (HT Jacobson).

So now what?

Do you really think GOP constituents are burning up the phone lines to open up the government again? re-instate military pay checks and we could play this game for a decade and be happy about it. I don’t think Dem constituents feel the same way.

The worst that will happen is MSM will call the GOP racist anarchists etc and Cokie Roberts won’t swoon over you for having the courage to throw your beliefs under a train. As the father of a small child, I know how to handle a tantrum.

This throw down was well over due and it won’t be the GOP that loses seats in the house or the senate over it.

    n.n in reply to Andy. | October 1, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    I hope you are right. I hope Republicans form a consensus compatible with their proclaimed principles. Thus far, I can only judge them as a class or a party by the principles they profess. However, with a preponderance of evidence, including actions, it becomes legitimate to question their integrity.

NC Mountain Girl | October 1, 2013 at 2:21 pm

There may be an advantage to the rather bland leadership of the current Congressional Republicans. One reason the 95-96 shutdown was seen as a failure despite the fact that Republicans kept control of Congress during the next election cycle was because of Newt and his over sized personality. Clinton was able to personalize the shutdown and pin it all on Newt’s ego. The only truly polarizing personalities today are on the Democrat side.

I want the Republicans to start quoting the Dems verbatim. For example, every Republican should have Obama’s 2008 debt ceiling quote memorized. When called upon by the media, that should be the response given, with the words, “and I agree with the President” included. I am sure that there are quotes regarding this budget, CR, and “clean bill” language that Reid and Obama have used that actually would support the Republicans’ position. Quote them, say you are quoting them, and then say “I agree”. Show that the Dems are the ones changing positions, not the Republicans.

Karen Sacandy | October 1, 2013 at 2:37 pm

Two or three men in the GOP have grown a spine. Let’s see if spine stiffening can be induced by NFC. If so, we’re good. If not, we’re back to enduring socialism winning.

About the left’s hyperbole: anyone with clarity of thought has known for decades their tirades against racism, violence, et cetera, were just put-ons. Anybody over age 30 knew it.

“I’d like to say that Democrats risk tearing at the fabric of our society,”

FACT: The destruction of the basic fabric of society is one of the goals of ALL radical alinskyite extremists.

Okay. So what? What are we going to do about it? Carping on blogs is fine but it’s not going to stop them. We need leaders who can bring some pain and draw some blood. I mean, how far does it have to go before Boehner and the rest of them see the lizard-monsters that hide under the leftist suits all over Washington? Really, how much will the Right take, what do they need to hear before they get a war footing with these savages? Jeezus, people, get some self-respect.

I saw an interesting exchange yesterday between a CNN “reporter” and two House Republicans. The CNN reporter simply allowed her snarling childish/leftist Id to guide the interview. The republicans, Blackburn and Rohrbacher, I think, responded with certain indignation to the frontal assault. Or rather Rohrbacher did. Blackburn mumbled a bunch of mealy make-nice BS. And Rohrbacher’s response was whiny and snappish.

What we need are thoughtful, aggressive and sustained attacks. And we need to find the joy in it, not be pushed into corners and lash out like defensive little bitches. Embrace the war, Republicans. Become warriors. Go leftist hunting. Start being the predator instead of the prey!

Stop the presses!

Oh, wait. Democrats have been doing this crap for over THIRTY YEARS. Some of us are old enough to remember Reagan being blamed because his “cuts” (which were actually just reductions in the rates of growth of some programs) would “starve women and children.” Later, Bush tax cuts were “coming for the poor, the sick, the elderly, the chilrun . . .” No new news here.

That’s what Democrats do. If they don’t get their base all worked up and excited, they will just hang around the house on Election Day, spending their assistance checks and chomping Cheetos and soda bought with their SNAP cards (we won’t mention the crack they trade for). Gotta get ’em all worked up into a frenzy – sort of like Cruz has done with the lower end conservative voters.

Do you believe some people believe that an internet “petition” has some purpose beyond giving your contact information to someone for their future fundraising spam? Do NONE of them ask TO WHOM and WHEN the “petition” was presented? Suckers.

    Andy in reply to Estragon. | October 1, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    Riddle me this… what does a low information voter do when the tit runs dry and they’ve been voting Democrat like a lemming for a decade?

    When your sugar daddy stops giving sugar… excuses don’t cut it.

I am so happy the damn fed-gov is shut down I just threw my granny over a cliff to celebrate.

theduchessofkitty | October 1, 2013 at 3:23 pm

I’m just surprised the mass arrests haven’t started yet…

This was less a White House strategy than simply staying in the corner the House GOP had painted them into — to the White House’s surprise, Obama was forced to do what he so rarely has as president: he said no, and he didn’t stop saying no.

Good Golly !! The President wins by being President NO
The Party of NO .. BAD, President NO … GOOD

Jose Parra, speaker for the office of Harry Reid being interviewed on 1140AM Miami right now.

He says they don’t have a problem with postponing the obamacare mandate for individuals. According to him, the problem is that Republicans are using blackmail. And they won’t budge, not to blackmail, no sihrrrr.

What a pile of dung!

I wonder why Congress and their staff are exempt, with obamacare being so good and all…

Why didn’t Boehner send the Senate 12 or so different funding bills and leave the Obamacare out of all of them? Failure of imagination, failure of leadership, or intentional sabotage?

UPenn Professor Anthea Butler: “Republicans Shut Down Government Because Obama’s Black…”

Ahhh…the one I was waiting for. Because Obama’s black is the reason for everything!!!

Dear Nancy, Harry, Barbara, Dick …

“At a time when our discourse has become so sharply polarized,” … “at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who happen to think differently than we do — it’s important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we are talking with each other in a way that heals, not a way that wounds