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House funding vote – LIVE (Update: House votes to avert government shutdown and delay Obamacare a year)

House funding vote – LIVE (Update: House votes to avert government shutdown and delay Obamacare a year)

The House of Representatives is voting late tonight on amendments to the Senate Continuing Resolution.

Among the amendments being voted on are a one year delay in Obamacare, elimination of the medical device tax, and possibly a “clean” resolution to fund the military.

[voting concluded]

House passes repeal of Medical Device Tax 248-174

(House Vote Amendment No. 1 Repealing Medical Device Tax)

(House Vote Amendment No. 1 Repealing Medical Device Tax)

House passes Delay of Obamacare until January 1, 2015, 231-192

(House Vote Amendment No. 2 Delaying Obamacare for One Year)

(House Vote Amendment No. 2 Delaying Obamacare for One Year)

House Unanimously Voted to Fund Military Pay

(House Vote Amendment No. 3 Funding Military Pay)

(House Vote Amendment No. 3 Funding Military Pay)

Although no one seems to be talking about it, the House also passed an Embassy Security Authorization

(House Vote to Embassy Security)

(House Vote to Embassy Security)

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Not impressed with the Democrats’ arguments.

The House of Representatives has the power of the purse. It is their function to refuse to fund stupid legislation.

    Sanddog in reply to Valerie. | September 29, 2013 at 12:00 am

    They have the power of the purse and they represent the “people”, not the states. When Reid starts bloviating about what what’s good for America, someone needs to remind him he was elected to represent what’s good for the state of Nevada.

    ZooMaster in reply to Valerie. | September 29, 2013 at 1:15 am

    Well, that pretty much sums it up, eh? O, R, and P being so insufferably unqualified for their jobs that they can’t recognize a bunch of people who are doing their jobs. Maybe because the House members are on Capitol Hill and not on the golf course.

9thDistrictNeighbor | September 28, 2013 at 10:51 pm

Oh my, this is painful to watch. I just saw my very own representative, Jan, the Communist, Schakowsky—just a coincidence, no doubt. (Has she had health problems? She lisps in her stridency like John McCain. However, her physique is approaching Hillary-esque proportions.) Washington is an enormous, self-contained non-reality. Just shut it all down and call me in November, 2016.

Hurrahs to those not giving up the good fight.

BannedbytheGuardian | September 29, 2013 at 12:16 am

Any constitutional lawyers here? Why is there seemingly no limit on the number of Continuing Resolutions? I would have thought they would be only an emergency option.

This is somewhere between all our New Year Resolutions & the USSR 5 year Plan.

Major Governance Fail.

What do you want to bet this is what we hear from Democrats tomorrow morning?

“Republicans held us hostage!”
“Republicans held the American people hostage!”
“Republicans held our brave men and women in harm’s way hostage!”
“Republicans are hostage takers in the name of the richest 1%!”
“Hurr! ‘Publicans! Hostages! Hurrrrrrrrrrr!!”

This is O/T, but tonight I went to the Harvard Law School Celebration of 60 Years of Women dinner, where Elizabeth Warren received an award and was the main speaker, with Dean Martha Minow asking her a bunch of softball questions. I went to the thing because my mother was in the first class of women, and I am also an alumna, so she really wanted me to come with her. I drank a lot of wine to deal with having to watch everyone lauding Elizabeth Warren, but even though I hate speaking in public, I forced myself to get up, and I asked her the only challenging question, regarding how Obama as a senator said that raising the debt ceiling and increasing the debt on our children was unpatriotic, but now it’s okay, even though Bush only increased the debt by about 5 trillion in 8 years and Obama has increased it by about 7 trillion in 5 years. I also asked her if she thought part of the problem with student debt, which she had railed against earlier, was that some professors make over $300,000 teaching just one class. She gave some BS answers about how the financial crisis changed everything, etc, etc, so I didn’t feel like I accomplished much, but then Elizabeth Holtzman came over and bitched me out, so maybe I drew a little blood. I really hate these people. Thank you, Professor Jacobsen, for fighting the good fight day in and day out for us. You are an inspiration to many of us.

    I’m impressed. Thanks for striking that blow.

      JuliaV in reply to Rick. | September 29, 2013 at 1:04 am

      Thanks. I did my best, but if I had known they were going to take questions ahead of time, I might have done better. My sister wanted me to wear an Indian headdress, as I am actually 1/32 Cherokee, and would never have considered putting that down on any application, being pale and blue eyed and never discriminated against in any way, as was Elizabeth Warren. My father, who was 1/16 Cherokee, was first in his class at Harvard Law School and would never in a million years have thought to claim any special status. Of course he also parachuted into the Philippines in WWII to fight the Japanese after his first year at Harvard College, then went back a year and a half later and graduated second in his class in college. He died almost 10 years ago, and I guess I’m kind of glad that he didn’t live to see what Obama and the rest of the democrats and idiot voters are doing to the country he fought for and loved so much.

        Hugitout5 in reply to JuliaV. | September 29, 2013 at 2:23 am

        Been reading LI since the GZ/TM trial but lurker-style only,
        but I signed up just to high 5 your move tonight. Bravo. BRAVO. & thank you.

    Mary Sue in reply to JuliaV. | September 29, 2013 at 12:56 am

    I’m giving you a standing ovation and will gladly buy you a drink should I have the opportunity to meet you in person. 😀 If you managed to get any of this on video the Professor could have a field day slow roasting Fauxcahontas over an open thread. Well done JuliaV, well done.

      JuliaV in reply to Mary Sue. | September 29, 2013 at 1:16 am

      Thank you. Unfortunately I didn’t think to get anything on my phone or anything. I got up quickly, to get in line before I lost my nerve, and I think my 84 year old mother was just wondering how badly I was going to embarrass her, and she wouldn’t have known how to record it on her iphone anyway. I know they have the whole thing on video at the law school, but I have a feeling my question will go into the vault somewhere. You wouldn’t believe what an Elizabeth Warren tribute the whole thing was.

        Midwest Rhino in reply to JuliaV. | September 29, 2013 at 5:13 am

        Perhaps someone playing the role of a Warren admirer could ask for a video copy, since it was such a glowing tribute to her. If done soon, perhaps they wouldn’t have time to edit out any embarrassing questions like yours. It should go on the internet immediately. 🙂

    punfundit in reply to JuliaV. | September 29, 2013 at 1:20 am

    It’s a shame you didn’t get gatekeeper Holtzman on video bitching you out for asking a question of an elected official. But bravo for having the temerity to ask truth from power!

    BannedbytheGuardian in reply to JuliaV. | September 29, 2013 at 1:21 am

    Further to the number ascribed to GWb – I rarely see the TARP numbers being reconciled for they are mostly repaid . If I am correct then GWya’s number are lower & obamahussie’s are higher. Also it it is not 5 years yet . 4 years & 5 months since the first -and only b- budget of April 2009.

    The auto bailout numbers might also be in dubya’s red column & put back under Obama’s black column.

    Midwest Rhino in reply to JuliaV. | September 29, 2013 at 3:10 am

    Thanks for standing up Julia.

    Despite Warren’s dodge, pointed questions help paint her in a corner. Future questions or articles can explore just how exactly she believes “the financial crisis” changed everything. Tell us Elizabeth, how do trillion a year deficits do anything but trap us into a debt death spiral, especially if rates ever increase beyond federal reserve control?

    What does misallocation of resources to liberal professors and unions have to do with all that? (I ask these as future questions for Warren). Exactly how does she think even more profligate spending and QE plays out to our benefit, when taxes and federal takeovers like Obamacare are killing the economic engine from which socialists leach? What is the plan, other than a subversion of federalism, and a move toward statism/communism? The fed is trapped, does Warren believe we need a global currency to save the day, or what is her end game?

    While the leftist army undercuts Ted Cruz, we need strong people like you that will penetrate the protective bubble around dangerous people like Warren. A transcript of that would be awesome, including Holtzman bitching. My theory is “always record everything”. Those little pocket recorders are cheap.

    Thanks again. 🙂

    Juba Doobai! in reply to JuliaV. | September 29, 2013 at 4:43 am

    You’re my hero, JuliaV. Thank you.

Sorry, I meant Professor Jacobson. I live in Brookline MA, so I know what it’s like to be surrounded by the enemy. Thank you again for being out there on the front lines every day.

The House caved in, but what the hell, they tried, right?

Delaying is not good as long as Obamacare is still being funded. The bureaucracy grows, and the steps toward single payer still continue.

I’m disgusted by all of them who are conniving to bring us socialized medicine, but mostly those in the Senate.

    ZooMaster in reply to Paul. | September 29, 2013 at 1:24 am

    I’m not so sure they caved. A tactical error, maybe. And they sure haven’t covered themselves in glory in the weeks leading up to this vote. On the other hand, maybe a strategic victory. If they have crafted a narrative which keeps Dirty Harry and Obama from throwing the brown at the “R’s” and making it stick, well now…

All the opposition to ObamaCare is just going to let them blame its failure on EVIL RUPUGNICANKZ.
I’d prefer to let it run as is and stand or fall on its own.

    Hugitout5 in reply to H_Tuttle. | September 29, 2013 at 3:18 am

    Agree w/ H_Tuttle’s take – BHO won re-election. To the victor goes the spoils. If it works fine, if not the GOP can say “Told ya so” and provide its own plan.

    Me? I’m for the ACA b/c I believe it will end employer financed healthcare which is good.

    Just my dos centavos …

      I agree with ending employer subsidized healthcare, but what really needs to occur is to re-establish doctor-patient direct pay, with insurance being only one of many options.

      It will be the most bitter “I told you so” ever uttered in this country since 1916ish (Woodrow Wilson’s apology re: the federal reserve. Think Obama will apologize in the same way?)and 1929 (the stock market crash)and nobody will take any satisfaction or joy from saying it. It would not be the first time these bastards have willfully wrecked this country and it will not be the last.

Not a fan of delaying. It must be stopped all the way. Delaying is how the Dems were able to weasel past the 2012 elections (intentionally planned that way), and this move gives them the same cover. Either stop it completely or let it continue – the people have to experience the reality of Obamacare to understand just how bad this law is. Until they do, they’ll pay no attention and keep believing the Dems/MSM lies.

Just yesterday I received a (Illinois) Blue Cross letter saying I can keep my plan, though they have other ACA options that would start Jan 1, 2014, and I must choose by Dec 15th, 2013. If I change (from my high deductible plan), I could not change back. My rates have already gone up some 80% since ACA passed, though I have no claims.

As I understand it, high deductibles are not available in the exchanges for those over 30. I may be grandfathered in, though I have no notice on how much more rates will explode when/if ACA forces unhealthy people into my “pool”. Perhaps my old grandfathered plan isolates me from the “wait till I’m headed to the hospital to sign up” people. (though one way or another I still subsidize them)

The general theory behind the “delay a year” legislation is that once people are signed up in the exchanges, it will be nearly impossible to reverse the process. The other aspect is that the harm to people losing access under the “let it burn” theory, may be too great ethically to let it proceed, despite political opportunity.

I don’t know the answers, but clearly “we the people” don’t appreciate the bait and switch of “affordable care” with double the rates and an incompetent/malicious government takeover. Our government union leftists just can’t stop lying to us, and 68% believe government is too powerful. The Lois Lerner and Eric Holder attack dog types want to add our health care as another bureaucratic tool to force “we the people” to submit to their mob.

Resist we must.

I don’t have a grip on law-making strategy, but viscerally in lieu of defunding altogether I support a NO exemptions amendment — especially for Congress, aides & all govt. employees especially including the Supreme Court Chief Justice.

I think delaying Obama-Care for one year is the very worst thing we can do, for the following reasons:

1. An extra year gives Obama time to bring in people who have a clue what they are doing, so the rollout won’t be so totally botched. His ego might not let him, but he could, and that might make it more palatable to some.

2. It puts implementation into 2015, past the midterms. Democrats won’t face people feeling the pain they have brought with it, so they will do better electorally.

3. It gives Obama an excuse, that we “interfered with the implementation” or some other nonsense. But remember, if people weren’t extremely gullible he would never have been elected in the first place.

4. It leaves the country with another year of uncertainty, hurting economic growth.

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A better idea to extract a concession would be to demand federal employees face the same mess as the rest of us and rescind the exemption Obama illegally granted.

Other than that, let Obama roll out his pride and joy for all to see. Let it crash and burn through 2014, and let the people render judgment in November. If we can take the Senate, we would be in a far stronger position as Obama grows weaker by the day and wouldn’t have Reid covering for him.

    DriveBy in reply to Estragon. | September 29, 2013 at 7:52 am

    AGREED!!!! And that is exactly what will happen. I have zero confidence in Boehner; and Reid, unfortunately, does exactly as he pleases with these Republicans – shameful to watch.

    JerryB in reply to Estragon. | September 29, 2013 at 7:57 am

    I agree with you on the problems with the delay. But a lot of good is coming out of this fight. Like with Syria, Bozo has drawn a red line, and the House just crossed it at the 11th hour. The House has stood up. They have offered two CRs, and even the Dems should like this one, for the reasons you outline.

    So, we wait and see. Will Barry back down? Then we take the high ground into the debt ceiling fight. If the shutdown goes a week, who will own it? There’s a chance that the spinmeisters won’t be able to keep the onus on the GOP.

Mc Carthy (R) GOP House Whip just told Chris Wallace that the House will not shut down the government. OCare is here. ;-(

    punfundit in reply to DriveBy. | September 29, 2013 at 11:55 am

    It’s a little difficult for the House to temporarily suspend certain government daily activities including paychecks, considering they’ve passed their measure and returned it to the Senate. The onus is on Reid’s Senate, and then it will be on the Oval.

    So the big fight being set up, assuming Reid wants to play the “Republican hostage takers” game, which is hardly above, is to pass it “grudgingly” and let Obama veto it with modern media pomp and circumstance. Then it goes back to Congress and reapply pressure to the House.

    Fold.

which 2 republicans voted Not To Delay Obamacare?

🙂 Tom Coburn, Oklahoma Republican said; Let’s face it, if the government shuts down, Republicans will “fold like hotcakes” 😉 Useless republican congress.

“The only time you shut down the government is when you shut it down and refuse to open it until you accomplish what you want. But we’ll fold like hotcakes,” Coburn told reporters. “You do not take a hostage you are not going to for sure shoot. And we will not for sure shoot this hostage.”…

“When the pressure comes, the conflict for a politician is you want to get reelected,” Coburn said. “Shutting down the government doesn’t work.”

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/09/27/tom-coburn-lets-face-it-if-the-government-shuts-down-republicans-will-fold-like-hotcakes/

Let’s have a contest! What will be tomorrow’s headline in the MSM.

My vote: “GOP Terrorists continue their assault on healthcare”

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