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So tell me about the SC primary challengers to Lindsey Graham

So tell me about the SC primary challengers to Lindsey Graham

Lindsey Graham deserves a primary challenge. He has several million in the bank, and surely will receive a lot more from those who want to keep him fighting for amnesty (assuming he doesn’t pull it off prior to the election).

There now are two people are in the race.

Today, Nancy Mace announced:

https://twitter.com/nancymace/status/363662819847204864

Richard Cash already is in the race:

If I’ve learned anything, it’s that outsiders have a hard time understanding South Carolina politics.  And what seems to be, often is not.

So tell me about these two challengers. And whether there will be others. And whether they can win.

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I look forward to the answers to your questions, and I will contribute some treasure to the right challenger.

Miss Lindsey Graham wins. The two challengers will split the votes opposing Ms. Lindsey between them. It’s one of the reasons incumbents keep going back. Victory after victory.

I can even remember LBJ bragging that he had a special ballot box full of ballots, he’d toss in to any race where he was behind.

And, it’s the process! All newscomers to congress have to start at the bottom. The ones that keep getting re-elected keep moving up, where they can claim superior positions on committees.

There isn’t a system in the world that’s “fair.”

Add to this that people also gain entry … let’s say to a seat at West Point. Because their congress critter has connections.

And, for regular voters? When they get to DC they can call their congress critter’s office for a visitor’s pass.

Mitch McConnell will also be re-elected.

If you want to add “a funny touch” … Anthony Weiner disqualified himself. Elizabeth Warren is known NOT to be any part Cherokee. But there’s no penalties, in Massachusetts, for faux indian candidates.

Congress has always been such a collection. Not everybody is cut out to be a politician.

    heimdall in reply to Carol Herman. | August 3, 2013 at 3:20 pm

    No, no, no. Miss Lindsey Graham has to get over 50% in the primary otherwise it is RUN-OFF TIME!! The more candidates in the better it is for the people wanting his butt out. It becomes very hard to win over 50% of the primary vote when you have four or five candidates against you.

    And a bonus, they have a very strong sore loser law that disallows write-ins and running to other parties when you lose a primary. So after run-off, if Graham loses, that’s all folks!

      huskers-for-palin in reply to heimdall. | August 3, 2013 at 9:34 pm

      So after run-off, if Graham loses, that’s all folks!
      =====================================

      ba-dee, ba-dee, ba-dee….that’s all folks!!!!

    Rick the Curmudgeon in reply to Carol Herman. | August 4, 2013 at 12:39 am

    Agree with you about the challengers splitting the vote and putting Windsee back in DC.

    But there’s no penalties, in Massachusetts, for faux indian candidates.”

    Or, evidently, practicing law without a license.

You won’t out fundraise Graham or, probably, out-organize him. The path to an upset is through conservative passion, by exploiting his many staggeringly arrogant and wrongheaded Establishmentarian positions and statements. It is encouraging to remember that South Carolina went big for Gingrich in the presidential primary and rejected RINO Romney. South Carolinian republicans chose the fighter who stood up to the media. In a senate race, it will be harder to make this sort of fight, or make it as public.

The winner will have to be a pretty savvy and ruthless brawler who can take it to Graham and excite conservatives with his/her genuine anti-Establishment convictions. Cash looks solid but play-it-safe, Mace very corporate and air-brushed. Not promising. I’m sorry Bruce Carroll chose not to run.

NC Mountain Girl | August 3, 2013 at 1:11 pm

I know people in SC who happily voted for Thurmond because he had a great staff that really knew how to play the constituent services game. It can count for a lot. Graham seems to have taken that page from Thurmond’s playbook so he may be hard to beat even in a one on one race. Two against one and he’ll easily win the primary. Bur I believe SC has a runoff system. If a crowded field keeps Graham under the threshold for a runoff, there could be a chance.

How long before Karl Rove starts undermining the Mace campaign?

whether they can win or not (and really, only one of them can 🙂 ) will depend on the information level of the average South Carolina primary voter. I hope the tea party educational outreach has been doing it’s work, but alas, I fear the IRS has crushed a goodly number of those endeavors.

Still, I do hope they can see through the demagoguery, how illegal immigration is not good for homegrown jobs, even if it’s “good” for the likes of IBM and Accenture, apparently.

NC Mountain Girl:I think the rules in SC are that if no candidate gets 50% of the vote in the primary, they hold a runoff election 2 week later. The candidate who receives the most number of votes in the runoff is the winner. I can’t find the actual statute, though.

A run-off election would be awesome. Only the die hard supporters show up and that means a great chance to kill off the senatorial career of a true RINO and power mad statist.

The ONLY surprise here is that AMNESTY-JUAN McRINO’s ventriloquism dummy, lindsey grahamnesty, is still planning to run as a “Republican.” Clearly he has as much integrity as THE WEINER. He should do everyone a favor by admitting he’s just another d-cRAT socialist slime-bag and run in the d-cRAT primary. But like, all d-cRATs, he doesn’t have the courage to do the right thing.

Why do so many newcomers shoot right for US senate? Running a statewide campaign is almost impossible, unless you have money, favors and a strong team all in the bank. Two out of three is very difficult; newcomers can only really expect to have zero to one of them.

Start at state rep. Then the House. Then Senate. Otherwise it’s tantamount to a vanity run, with the Marion’s future in the balance.

NATION’S future.. Damn autocorrect

Nancy Mace – very photogenic. And lots of experience for a future US Senator: she runs a public relations firm; perfect – she’ll be able to make the jump to lobbyist ASAP, win or lose the primary.

Where’s that Neo-Neo guy who was complaining about Obama’s and Hillary’s inexperience to hold important govt. positions when you need him?

Richard Cash has more going for him — not just his last name, which certainly is appropriate for the ‘capitalist conservative’ he describes himself to be, but he actually RAN for office in 2010. Cash proudly and loudly touted himself as a principled Christian in that race – but alas, God obviously didn’t answer his prayers, listening to those of Jeff Duncan instead.

The district Cash is from is among the most rural and conservative in the state, and he has as much chance winning an across the state heads up primary election against Graham as Sarah Palin does winning a Rhodes scholarship.

Texas has the same primary rules — a candidate has to get 50% or there is a run-off between the top two. David Dewhurst got almost 40%, but Ted Cruz BEAT HIM IN A RUN OFF!! The run off is all about turnout. So get Ms Lindsy Graham into a runoff and he can be beat!!

I’ll vote for Mace but I see no way Lindsey will not win. He might even get 50% of the first ballot vote and avoid a runoff.

    retire05 in reply to Sheep. | August 3, 2013 at 11:25 pm

    Sheep, then if you want Graham out, and believe me, the rest of the nation of conservatives do, his opponent needs more than your vote.

    You have to be willing to hit the pavement, just as we did for Ted Cruz. And you have to realize that Lindsey Baby will be hooking a hard right from now until election day. He always does, only to turn right around and stab his voters in the back with his very next act.

      Sheep in reply to retire05. | August 7, 2013 at 2:12 pm

      I’ll work for her but like a commenter above mentioned she has to establish a state wide campaign staff starting from nothing. It’s possible but will be hard.

      I figure she and Lindsey will end up in a run off then its who can get their voters to the poll and Lindsey will out raise her 10 to 1.

According to my southern relatives, SC has open primaries and because Democrats cannot win state-wide contests, Democrats vote for Lindsey Graham in the primary. My aunt, who is a lifelong Democrat and works for the party in Columbia, absolutely loves Graham and happily sends him back to DC with her primary vote. Not sure why the SC GOP allows this to happen and wish that primaries were open only to registered voters in said party.

    Sheep in reply to ithacarobin. | August 7, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    We have open primaries but you can only vote one party or the other. A LOT of conservatives vote in the Democratic primary because of local elections that have only Democratic candidates. I did last year then came back to vote mostly conservative in the general election.

The best thing to oust Grahamnesty would be for a hotly contested Dem primary to avoid the crossover.

Jeff Duncan who beat Cash in D3 has turned out to be a conservative rock star. 100% FreedomWorks and Heritage Action ratings. He is just overshadowed by the awesomeness of Trey Gowdy in neighboring D4. The Greenville County GOP voted to censure the outgoing state Chairman… So lets just say the upstate leans heavy libertarian. Radio ads here on talk radio are decidedly not favorable to the incumbent. Nancy Mace has already been meeting with local clubs like the GSP Republican Women and SC Liberty. If she can stay on par with $$ should do well in this area. Columbia is RINO central. The coast will be the wild card, but she is from Charleston. Here is hoping.

I’m in for $100.00.

South Carolina primary rules require winner to have at least 50% of the vote. If Whimsey only gets 49%, he will have to win a run-off election against the 2nd place finisher in the primary. Additional candidates do not split the vote but rather combine to reduce the likelyhood of 1st place finisher getting 50% + and causing a run-off. The more, the merrier.

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