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Zimmerman alternate juror E54 agrees with ‘not guilty’ verdict

Zimmerman alternate juror E54 agrees with ‘not guilty’ verdict

In case you missed it, WOFL, the local FOX affiliate station (FOX35) in Orlando, Florida did an exclusive interview with alternate juror E54 from the George Zimmerman trial.  Sean Hannity aired segments on his Wednesday evening program.

Anonymous juror E54 told WOFL’s Valerie Boey that he agrees with the ‘not guilty’ verdict and was disappointed that he didn’t get to serve on the jury that ultimately came to that verdict.

When asked what he thought about talk of a civil rights complaint, the alternate juror answered, “I just don’t understand the civil rights complaint. I didn’t see the evidence there in the courtroom that would make anybody believe there’s a civil rights case for this.”

Common Cents picked up video at his blog, in two parts.

 

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Carol Herman | July 18, 2013 at 9:08 pm

Diddley doo – but the blacks doo doo.

And, it’s only the blacks (with their libtard counterparts) that are pushing this narrative along.

I found it actually funny that L.A. blacks found their way to Rodeo Drive … to complain loudly that Trayvon was an innocent child. While they were marching around, of course, no one showed you the gated communities with their gates locked shut. And, most of the librals escaping on their jets to other places.

Fake news all de’ time. Backlash? You’d need to fly into “fly over” country. Where there ain’t no debt or deficits. And, middle class Americans can afford the homes they buy. Plus, there are jobs in abundance. The Detroit community, however, has gone belly up. Are you surprised?

Trayvon was a thug! His parents though are on a quest for dough. Where will their lawsuits land?

    snopercod in reply to Carol Herman. | July 18, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    “There is another class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs…There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who do not want the patient to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public.”

    -Booker T. Washington, 1911

It was an excellent interview!
As for the civil rights case, if it’s pursued, i’m afraid it will become the United States version of The Dreyfuss Affair.
I realize the cases are different but the quote from Guy Canivet about the Dreyfuss affair could fit this witch hunt:
“This case is often seen as a modern and universal symbol of iniquity justified by reasons of state, and remains one of the most striking examples of a complex miscarriage of justice where a major role was played by the press and public opinion.”

““I just don’t understand the civil rights complaint.”

Neither do I, but this just in:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2369592
Eric Holder’s so-called “Justice” Department has now ordered Sanford police to retain all evidence relating to the Zimmerman trial, including GZ’s gun, so as to have it available for federal prosecution…

DOJ has a hold on GZs gun. I hope some nice firearms manufacturer donates a new to him, because if anyone needs to be able to protect himself Zimmerman is that person.

    MouseTheLuckyDog in reply to tcbaz. | July 18, 2013 at 10:09 pm

    When Mr. Zimmerman carries another gun, it will not be this gun. He needs money badly, and this gun would fetch a great deal from some collector.

    If they do try to keep it, I hope that Mr. OMara files a motion with the court.

    Sanddog in reply to tcbaz. | July 18, 2013 at 10:20 pm

    I’m wondering if Zimmerman could get a proceed from the NICS system thanks to Holder. He’d be better off going the private sale route.

    I hope some nice firearms manufacturer donates a new to him

    At least one firearms store here in Florida has offered him a free replacement.

Quite a guy

Poor CNN/HLN. They’ve seen the ratings drop since the trial’s end, and now they’re desperately rehashing the same material night after night for as long as possible.

I wonder if George will do an interview for CNN/Fox anytime soon. I’m not sure if it will do any good but I’d love to hear him speaking post-verdict, without the lawyer.

    rekorb in reply to Vince. | July 18, 2013 at 10:10 pm

    I wonder which reporter is going down to the Grenada to interview him…..oops

    MouseTheLuckyDog in reply to Vince. | July 18, 2013 at 11:12 pm

    If I were Mark OMara I would tell Mr. Zimmerman “Under no circumstances, talk to anyone except me, Don West or the blond lawyer whose name I don’t know. Not even to freinds or family because they may have the house bugged.”

    Absolutely no way should he go on television until the case is completely over.

      I get what you’re saying and I would normally agree but there are two things.. O’Mara said that Z wanted to get on the stand tell his story (good thing they talked him out of it) and right now the only voices I’m hearing in the media are Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Sybrina Fulton, Trayvon’s brother, Crump, Natalie Jackson and Piers Morgan saying the same thing.

      If Z decides to give interviews in 1 year will it have the same impact? I don’t know. I think he should seize the moment.

I saw this interview, and it was really good. Thing is this, the right people need to open up their ears and listen, but I think many of them are too busy rioting and whipping up on others.

Carol Herman | July 18, 2013 at 10:20 pm

Obama and Holder are headliner incompetents in a parade that’s akin to the Peid Piper’s tooting the horn as kids line up to jump off the cliff’s face. It’s actually a children’s tale. Taught to all except semi-literates. Who have no interest in your culture, anyway.

One of the unsung heroes in this case is the jury selection team, and researchers.

I hate to think what would have happened if that rabid white guy who hated both Zimmerman and the Sanford police had managed to sneak on. He sure tried, he lied his ass off.

not_surprised | July 18, 2013 at 10:48 pm

Well looks like Obama put his foot down on George getting his gun back. The FBI ‘requested’ the Sanford PD to hold the gun while there investigation is open..

So Nobama did leave the Zimerman’s on their own, and took away Georges gun contrary to FL law. Unbelievable Tyranny.

“I just don’t understand the civil rights complaint.”

It’s easy. Liberals are assuming Zimmerman racially profiled Martin because George is partially white. That makes him a racist; you know how THOSE people are!

SmokeVanThorn | July 18, 2013 at 10:57 pm

I bet the alternate juror would change his mind if he heard about DriveBy’s incredible Adventure of the Suspicious Looking Hippies who Committed No Crime.

Rush had the breakdown on the story, and it actually changed my mind. Trey thought, and was being urged by the girlfriend, that he was being chased by a homo (creepy ass cracker), and that this homo was going to follow him home, where the little brother was. He then administers an “ass wooping” –not to kill — to end the chasing of the imaginary homo. He then gets shot in the process. This is comical and sad. RIP Treyvon.

    fogflyer in reply to Ediv710. | July 18, 2013 at 11:27 pm

    Are there a bunch of instances of pudgy white men accosting and raping young, fit, black men that I have somehow missed????

    Sorry Rush, I think it is more likely that Treyvon simply didn’t like Zimmerman “eyeballing” him, and just decided to kick his ass.

      Fen in reply to fogflyer. | July 19, 2013 at 12:38 am

      Exactly. I can’t believe people are so stupid to swallow the spin that Martin meant “creepy ass-cracker” instead of “creepy-ass cracker”.

      Ranks up there with racists who shout “n*gger” and then claim they meant native of Nigeria.

        Observer in reply to Fen. | July 19, 2013 at 9:21 am

        The narrative (attempted narrative?) about Trayvon Martin being fearful of Zimmerman because he suspected Zimmerman might be some sort of homosexual rapist is ludicrous.

        What teenager who thinks he may be being stalked by a rapist would walk over to the would-be rapist’s vehicle and slowly circle it?

        The “Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a rapist” story comes off as little more than a desperate, after-the-fact attempt by Jeantel and her handlers to justify both Martin’s aggression and his racist characterizations of Zimmerman on that fateful night.

      MouseTheLuckyDog in reply to fogflyer. | July 19, 2013 at 1:23 am

      To be honest I listen to Rush ( Limbaugh, I listen to the group a lot more ) about once a month at most. But from when I did listen I would guess that he was serious about TM and RJ being homophobic and the left blowing that off, but the rest was tongue-in-cheek.

      MKReagan in reply to fogflyer. | July 19, 2013 at 9:03 am

      Rush was repeating what Rachel Jeantel said on Piers Morgan/CNN. She also mentioned in her testimony at trial that she warned TM that GZ could be a rapist. If she keeps blabbing like she’s doing this week, GZ will have much more evidence to present in future litigation, which I hope does not happen.

    nomadic100 in reply to Ediv710. | July 18, 2013 at 11:41 pm

    This hypothesis doesn’t persuade me.

    angienc in reply to Ediv710. | July 19, 2013 at 1:25 am

    So you’re saying gay bashing is understandable/acceptable?

BannedbytheGuardian | July 18, 2013 at 11:21 pm

We have a 5 year imprisonment for disclosing of jury deliberations etc. it is an offence to ask Jurors of same .

( Outside of legal channels & medical consultations governed by confidentiality.)

So these are always a surprise ( as it is to new jurors bred on American TV shows) .

Seems to hold up .

    Not saying you are wrong, simply that I have never heard of this.

    Can you please cite this law?

      BannedbytheGuardian in reply to fogflyer. | July 19, 2013 at 1:23 am

      Sorry – regulars know I am not American .

      It s just a little fact that might help you understand why foreign readers might be bewildered .

      What next – possees being sent out after jurors.?

        Gotcha,
        Is that a UK law?

        Yeah, jurors in the US are free to talk to whomever they want, or no one. It’s their choice.

        As far as posses being sent after jurors, the answer is no, that’s extremely unlikely. Posses are historically something organized by law enforcement when they didn’t have enough sworn officers to do the job. What you’re thinking of we refer to as lynch mobs.

    I think you mean the non-disclosure agreement from Survivor? And its $5 million in penalties, not 5 years. 😉

I was so happy to finally see someone say that George did nothing wrong by getting out of the car.
It seems even people supportive of the acquittal feel he should be punished somehow for getting out of the car and not minding his own business. Why? I do not understand.

    MKReagan in reply to fogflyer. | July 19, 2013 at 9:09 am

    Problem is the media spin that he was told not to get out of the car. It was clear from his testimony and the car-door noise that he was out of the car and walking when Noffke asked if he was following TM, then told him “We dont need you to do that.” So frustrating to hear this fallacy repeated by people who never watched the trial!

The jurors have to hide their identities from the public — do interviews anonymously, behind screens, etc — because of fear from backlash/being attacked by those who don’t like the verdict, but it’s those of us who respect the jury verdict & respect the legal system who are the problem. SMH.

On a somewhat positive note our local cable news channel posted about this on Facebook and all but one person was outraged the DOJ was going to continue to investigate. I think the general public is getting very weary of this story.

After listening to the female juror, Zimmerman should feel very lucky. Seems like he dodged a bullet. While she was for acquittal she seemed a little loopy. The alternate was more in accord with my opinion on things.

Listening to the parents, I can’t believe they were paying attention to the same evidence that I heard. Mom said on CNN why couldn’t Trayvon just walk home? Well, he could and did. He just didn’t GO INTO THE HOUSE. He made the decision to run back and beat the creepy cracka”s ass. She should’ve brought him up better. At least clue him in to someone might have a gun or a knife.

CENTFLAMIKE | July 19, 2013 at 9:36 am

GZ was a neighborhood watch volunteer in a neighborhood with a history of burglaries (including one where GZ’s friend and small child were home at the time!)

Which stranger walking around in the dark looking in windows is GZ supposed to NOT give additional scrutiny to? The answer I’m hearing is that even though he is ACTING like a burglar, you can’t give him any extra scrutiny because he is black.

Henry Hawkins | July 19, 2013 at 9:39 am

The die is cast – GZ is a murderer – based not on the facts, but on the inertial energy of mob rule, spurred on by the vested race-baiting industry in knowing cahoots with media.

People coming forward to say there is no civil rights issue or that the verdict was proper have been and will continue to be immediately vilified.

Only lefty activists are allowed to ‘testify’ in the media, while the lefty media acts as judge and jury endorsing them, all in a sickly incestuous sham of news manipulation. The whole damn thing is kabuki theater.

Bring all the insider interviews and factual reviews you want, it won’t change a thing.

You can’t use facts and logic to change the opinions of people who have no need of facts or logic in the first place; their choir hears nothing but its own screeching anyway.

“In politics, absurdity is not a handicap.” – Napoleon Bonaparte

“The word ‘politics’ is derived from the word ‘poly’, meaning ‘many’, and the word ‘ticks’, meaning ‘blood sucking parasites’.” – Larry Hardiman

Let me tell you, I decided to watch Hannity before I went to sleep. I can’t remember when it was on. Must have been after 11:00 p.m. Well, it was definitely the wrong thing to do if you want to go to sleep. I was fighting mad, so it took me forever to go to sleep.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/07/20/Hannity-Hammers-NAACP-Name-One-Person-Killed-In-Chicago-During-Zimmerman-Trial

But before these NAACP guys, he had someone on. I think he was Rep. Rush and King. Rush was an elderly black man. This man was spouting lies, couldn’t hardly talk. This is it:

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/index.html#http://video.foxnews.com/v/2553746215001/reps-king-rush-debate-zimmerman-verdict/?playlist_id=86924

I can’t understand how these guys, meaning Rush and the NAACP guys, can believe all the baloney and lies that they spout. It almost sounds like they didn’t watch the trial.

    Baker in reply to kittycat. | July 19, 2013 at 11:52 am

    As far as watching the trial I think the answer is relatively simple.

    The answer is they didn’t watch the trial. At least Rush didn’t. Maybe the NAACP guy did, maybe he didn’t. The fact is they both have an agenda and have no problem in ignoring the truth and lying about the facts or making spurious allegations and preposterous assumptions to advance their agenda. They just deny that any facts exist that disprove their agenda or dismiss those facts with absurd explanations and scenarios.

    In a normal world these actions would be called lies and deception and the person would be recognized as a liar.

‘When asked what he thought about talk of a civil rights complaint, the alternate juror answered, “I just don’t understand the civil rights complaint. I didn’t see the evidence there in the courtroom that would make anybody believe there’s a civil rights case for this.”’

Here’s a little statistic…

According to Bureau of Justice statistics, between 1976 and 2011 there were 279,384 black murder victims, of these, 262,621 were murdered by other blacks.

So maybe they are saying that it’s such a rare thing when it’s not a black killing a black that it must be racially motivated?

The potential for satire revolving around this case is mind-numbing.

“Anonymous juror E54 told WOFL’s Valerie Boey that he … was disappointed that he didn’t get to serve on the jury…”

He’s disappointed he won’t get a book deal, because he didn’t actually make the decision.

    allmenroder in reply to Matt in FL. | July 19, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    The part I don’t understand is I was a juror for a 1st degree attempted murder case in Hillsborough County, Fl and the ‘decision’ jury was not picked until after the case had ended. IIRC 8 jurors heard the case and 6 were selected to deliberate of which I was one.

    In the Zimmerman trial in Seminole County apparently the 6 ‘deliberators’ were chosen up front. Am I correct in the Zimmerman case? And I wonder if I’m correct, why does the court in one county pre select the deliberators and another, in another county doesn’t? Does Florida law allow for such descretion by the Court (I guess the answer is yes but I’m scratching my head to figure out why)?

      Matt in FL in reply to allmenroder. | July 19, 2013 at 12:14 pm

      Were the six in your case chosen after case presentation, or only announced after the case presentation? The six jurors chosen as the ‘decision’ jury in the Zimmerman case were the first six agreed on, and the next four agreed on were always going to be alternates. We knew those four (and then three after one left) were going to be alternates, but they did not until they were excused.

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