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Post-Zimmerman Acquittal: Civil Rights, Immunity, and Perjury

Post-Zimmerman Acquittal: Civil Rights, Immunity, and Perjury

Well, that’s it. George Zimmerman has his legal victory. Late in the night on Saturday, July 13, 2013, George officially survived a brutal and malicious legal assault backed by the full power of a State government intent on hanging a life sentence on an innocent man on the sole basis of emotional appeal and racial politics.

George Zimmerman, not guilty

George Zimmerman, not guilty

The moment the non-guilty verdict was read brought to mind that earlier moment, in the early evening of February 26, 2012, when George Zimmerman fired a single, defensive round from his licensed sidearm into his attacker. Because of thats action, and solely because of it, Zimmerman survived the brutal and malicious physical assault backed by the full power of a vicious “wannabe thug” seething with hatred, ill-will, and spite towards this “creepy-ass cracker”.

I don’t care what gym owner Adam Pollock or anyone else has to say about George Zimmerman being “soft”. To my eye Zimmerman has proven himself to be one tough son-of-a-gun. When push came to shove and everything was at stake, there was no quit in him, anywhere.

In truth this is not the end of Zimmerman’s travails with the consequences wrought by that winter night’s ambush. Today there remain several serious threats lurking just out of the light of campfire. Of these, the greatest remains the continuing death threats against George Zimmerman in particular, and his family in general. That danger, however, falls outside the realm of legal analysis, and so outside our purview.

That leaves at least three substantive and serious threats facing the Zimmerman’s that seem appropriate for this forum:

(1) Federal Government Seeking Civil Rights Action

Unsatisfied with Zimmerman’s just acquittal in a Florida trial court, racial agitators and their mainstream media sycophants are now seeking to have their government bring Federal criminal charges against Zimmerman. Such charges would claim that Zimmerman violated the civil rights of a 17-year-old black “child” whose cell phone data suggests an interest in pot smoking, gun dealing, street fighting, and burglary (although presumably the charging document would stop with the word “child”).

An initial assessment suggests that the basis for any such Federal civil rights action is just as specious as were the second degree murder charges against Zimmerman. The fact that the State criminal charges proved laughably inadequate for a criminal conviction did not keep Zimmerman from having to endure a trial on those charges, however, one wonders if any more prosecutorial maturity can be expected of the Holder Department of Justice.

In the coming days I will take a closer look at both the legal substance and procedure for the bringing of possible Federal civil rights charges against Zimmerman, and share that analysis with all of you here.

(2) Threat of Civil Suit for Wrongful Death Against Zimmerman

Those of you who were around and attentive during the OJ Simpson trials will recall that although he was found not guilty at the criminal trial he was nevertheless found legally liable for the 1992 killing of his wife, Nicole Simpson. (In preparation for the unfavorable civil verdict Simpson moved essentially all of his assets to Florida, which provides considerable protection against creditors, including judgment holders, for certain assets, such as one’s multi-million dollar home.) It is possible, then, that the Martin family and advisors may seek to take a similar action against George Zimmerman, particularly if they perceived that Zimmerman himself will be successful in suing NBC and others who maliciously defamed him following the events of February 26.

The difficulty they face in this regard is Florida statute 776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of force.  Generally speaking, this statute provides that “a person who uses force as permitted [in lawful self-defense] is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force.” Confusion arises, however, because the statute does not set froth any particular procedure for when immunity can be sought, the threshold for qualifying, and the manner in which it is bestowed. In the absence of such guidance the Florida courts themselves have had to create the necessary procedure. Within the next few days I will post on how the courts resolved this difficulty, and how the now established procedures will be applied in the case of George Zimmerman.

(3) Shellie Zimmerman Faces Perjury Charges, August 21

George Zimmerman’s wife, Shellie, has been charged with perjury by the same gang of State prosecutors who excreted the second degree murder affidavit of probable cause against her husband.

An initial review of the facts suggests that this perjury charge–just like the overcharging on second degree murder and the malicious denial of courtroom access to George Zimmerman’s parents–was intended to break Zimmerman’s will and, failing that, disrupt his defense. Professor Jacobson has already begun excellent coverage on this issue–Next up: Florida v. Shellie Zimmerman–and so to defer ongoing coverage the matter to him.

OK, that’s it for today. Don’t forget, albeit all (or, at least, nearly all) my Zimmerman coverage will likely remain here on Legal Insurrection for the time being (at the Professor’s discretion, of course), other self-defense law matters, as well as news about my book, “The Law of Self Defense, 2nd Edition” (now available in Kindle format), my self-defense law seminars, and so forth, will be covered primarily over at my own blog, The Law of Self Defense.

www.lawofselfdefense.com

–Andrew, @LawSelfDefense, #LOSD2


Andrew F. Branca is an MA lawyer and author of the seminal book “The Law of Self Defense,” now available at www.lawofselfdefense.com and also at Amazon.com as either a hardcopy or in Kindle version.

You can follow Andrew on Twitter on @LawSelfDefense and using #LOSD2, on Facebook, and at his blog, The Law of Self Defense.

Many thanks to Professor Jacobson for the invitation to guest-blog on the Zimmerman trial here on Legal Insurrection!

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Andrew – you are famous – see the last few seconds in this video:

http://floppingaces.net/most_wanted/angela-coreys-downfall-hysterical/

    Congratulations, Jacobson and Branca!

    Here’s a screen grab: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7426/9297771033_97dcfa97e5_z.jpg

    Because of this stupid discussion, nothing is being said or done with all of the Obama/Holder scandals. Wake up, folks. Do not comment on this distraction. Comment on the real issues that confront us.

    I will comment on every blog that references this case and raise the Obama/Holder scandals.

      Yes and no, the Zimmerman trial forms a mosaic of Obama and the Left’s arbitrary and capricious handling of the Law. It is just another piece in the puzzle that forms the picture of what tyranny looks like. Whether it is Fast & Furious, Benghazi, IRS, Zimmerman, etc, what emerges here is the total disregard for the Rule of Law.

      I for one have stopped watching the news on Zimmerman due to the overload, so yes it has become a distraction but the MSM will move on because they know focusing too much on this story will cause them to loose ratings and money so they will be on to the next scandal shortly when the public tunes out like myself. IF FNC has it’s act together, it would be reviewing the status of each and every scandal that has erupted so far as a series of news bites.

      the Zimmerman trial is just another one of those scandals. If the DoJ does in fact try it on with civil charges then this case will most definitely be a part of those scandals and I mean big time.

      There is no justification for the DoJ to bring any such charges.

    gasper in reply to MSimon. | July 16, 2013 at 8:36 am

    Longtime LI commentor, EBL, is the creator of this hilarious video.

      And there’s a complimentary copy of “The Law of Self Defense, 2nd Edition,” winging it’s way to her, in appreciation.

      USPS tells me she’ll receive it tomorrow. 🙂

      –Andrew, @LawSelfDefense, #LOSD2

And BTW Andrew – that “pot smoking” bit isn’t going over the way it used to with >50% of Americans favoring legalization and the % is growing.

My contention is that Martin had PTSD from bad upbringing. And pot is indicated for PTSD. In Israel openly and by the US Veterans Administration semi covertly.

BTW that may be the reason O’Mara and Co. didn’t bring it up at trial. It is no longer a sure winner. The times they are a changin.

    Look at the demographics. By age 25 about 50% of the 15 to 25 age group has tried pot. And that number has remained relatively steady. The rest have come into contact with those tokers and are influenced by them.

    What has the war on youth accomplished? The kids on the right are going libertarian. Social conservatism is not as popular as it once was and social conservatives are concentrated in the over 60 cohort. It is dying out as a political force.

    That would explain the rise of the Pauls. Rand especially. Those under the government thumb want smaller less intrusive government.

    Add in that prohibitions historically last about 50 years, you can see that the end is nigh. The GOP would be getting with the program except that it desperately needs those over 60s. For funds and votes.

    We are in generation gap territory.

      Jazzizhep in reply to MSimon. | July 16, 2013 at 8:36 am

      FOR GOD’S SAKE, would quit the “he smoked pot so he must have been suffering from PTSD” crap. it si getting eff’n old

        Well pot is an anti-anxiety drug. And anti-anxiety drugs are indicated for PTSD. You knew that didn’t you? Another anti-anxiety drug is tobacco. You knew that didn’t you? The one will give you cancer. The other one will cure it. You knew that didn’t you?

        http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page4

          Jazzizhep in reply to MSimon. | July 16, 2013 at 9:13 am

          From page 3 of the site in your link, Not quite as cut and dry as you suggest. Also, according to the .gov website, little testing has been done “in humans” regarding THC’s use as an antitumor agent. Perhaps in the future you should refrain from making statement like “pot cures cancer” and then send me to a website that states the opposite. Oh,almost forgot, great job on using limited studies on animals to prove “pot cures cancer”.

          A comprehensive Health Canada monograph on marijuana concluded that while there are many cellular and molecular studies that provide strong evidence that inhaled marijuana is carcinogenic, the epidemiologic evidence of a link between marijuana use and cancer is still inconclusive.[12]

          With a hypothesis that chronic marijuana use produces adverse effects on the human endocrine and reproductive systems, the association between marijuana use and incidence of testicular germ cell tumors (TGCTs) has been examined.[9-11] Three population-based case-control studies report an association between marijuana use and elevated risk of TGCTs, especially nonseminoma or mixed-histology tumors.[9-11]

          Jazzizhep in reply to MSimon. | July 16, 2013 at 9:17 am

          your site also notes the greatly increased risk of lung cancer when the subject is both a tobacco and marijuana user, compared to just tobacco smokers.

          Jazzizhep in reply to MSimon. | July 16, 2013 at 9:20 am

          oops, the last two paragraphs of the above post should be in quotation marks, they are from the website

          Uncle Samuel in reply to MSimon. | July 16, 2013 at 9:30 am

          MARIJUANA IS NOT A PANACEA, BUT A PIRANHA…A POISON.

          There are numerous far better, safer medications, therapies and treatments for psychological and physical pain.

          You are trying to propagandize and defend the indefensible.

      Gremlin1974 in reply to MSimon. | July 16, 2013 at 3:23 pm

      I renew my earlier analysis of your comment.

      “MSimon, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this blog is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”

      I have over 15 years experience in medicine, 10 years of which was in Mental Illness and Chemical Abuse treatment and I am here to tell you that your assertions have so little grounding in anything approaching actual science or medical theory, not to mention standards of practice, that they make make Star Trek Science look like proven fact.

      As far as I know you have never met Trayvon or any member of the Martin family, no have you used any accepted diagnostic tool or research method to diagnose Trayvon with PTSD. Also, from reading your posts you are woefully unqualified to diagnose anything, much less a complex psychiatric disorder such as PTSD. The meer assertion that Trayvon was suffering from any mental disorder is insulting to him and his family.

      Also, coming from someone who has never even met his father for more than a few moments at a time, your assertion that PTSD is automatic for children from broken home is laughable and completely without merit. Since many more children grow up just fine coming from homes where they have in your words “been abandoned”.

      Your assertion “Pot is an anti-anxiety drug” shows your complete lack of knowledge in psycho-pharmacology. Since Pot is a street name and not even the name of the actual active agent.

      You are unable to provide credible studies to support your assertions and frankly I doubt you have the actual training and education to know what would be a credible study in the first place.

      Given all of the above, my only conclusion is that you base your opinions, since you have not stated a single provable fact, on what could at best be referred to as “junk science” and possible experimentation through self medication.

      God Bless
      Gremlin

        what Gremlin1974 says in buckets and spades.

        My own experience with people who are mentally ill or at least recovering from mental illness happens to be that pot and other drugs played a very big part in what was wrong with them. I heard story after story about how people ended up with their mental illness. There were some, including myself who had never touched those drugs, but the majority of the males who told their story also had the “I used….” and most of that time the drug was pot. If it was not the total trigger, it certainly had some impact. One man, I cannot forget because I first met him when he was wanting to commit suicide (and that was associated with drug use). In between that first time and the next time he did in fact attempt to kill himself. I am not going to repeat his whole story, but there is a happy ending for him. Even with this person, the thing that stood out was his use of pot.

        What you fail to recognize is the fact that pot can be laced with other drugs. It happens all the time. When it happens the user cannot handle the situation.

        On top of that pot can be lethal in certain circumstances. I know from personal experience (not my own but associated with family), that even the first time user can have an extreme reaction that could kill. Fortunately for the girl involved she survived her ordeal.

    Trayvon Martin Shooting – A year of drug use culminates in predictable violence…
    We can confirm from his Facebook and Twitter Accounts that Trayvon had essentially been “sippin sippin” (using Lean or DXM) for at least a year, perhaps longer. It would appear from the Medical Examiners report Trayvon’s liver was showing the early indicators of excessive use consistent with such a timeframe.

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/24/update-26-part-2-trayvon-martin-shooting-a-year-of-drug-use-culminates-in-predictable-violence/

      I have heard the effects of that are similar to PCP. PCP turns some people violent. Of course alcohol turns some people violent.

        There was no evidence, based on the toxicology report that Trayvon Martin was using PCP.

        There is circumstantial evidence that comes from his Facebook Page and his text msgs that he was using DXM and was sipping the sirzup or lean.

        Two of the items that were on Trayvon Martin that night are also ingredients for Lean.

    JSerio in reply to MSimon. | July 16, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    I don’t agree with the PTSD theory. But, I do agree that the “smokes pot” was a losing argument (due to current views of pot) and is likely why the defense refused to use the information.

      they would have needed an expert to state that he could get aggressive when he was coming off the high… and I do not think that such an argument was necessary based upon the facts.

    Well, I as a mother of 3 sons disagree. I do not accept that Trayvon Martin had PTSD at all.

    What you disregard is the fact that chronic users of pot tend to go through an aggressive stage when they do not get to use their drug. The aggressiveness could easily be linked to the downer that comes when the high is over.

    I have no moral position on pot smoking. Couldn’t care less.

    But in a SD case, influences on behavior matter. And if being high might not induce violence, I’m not so confident that withdrawal might not. (I quit smoking cigarettes some years back, and if I’d an RPG handy those first few days there would have been a LOT of noise.)

    –Andrew, @LawSelfDefense, #LOSD2

Here is notice to every person of Hispanic origin from the Left, if your skin color is too light or your last name isn’t Valdez, Zappata or Rios then you are to be demonized. Welcome to the club its a crime to be politically incorrect and be identified with a disfavored group. The Left have virtually admitted to Zimmerman’s perceived whiteness by claiming the acquittal was race based.

But chear up, it’s easily fixed, get in a tanning booth and if necessary change your last name to meet the stereotype liberals expect of you. Would a Jorge Mesa have drawn such attention by the MSM and the racist Al Sharpton? Because that’s Zimmerman’s real fault in life, his skin color and his name. If he had taken his mother’s maiden name of Mesa we wouldn’t even be having this thread right now, a point that both Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh made last year. Welcome to the new Blackface, we have come full circle to the 1800’s in race relations thanks to Barack Obama and his racist groupies.

Mister Natural | July 16, 2013 at 7:57 am

now that the show trial is over, how do we get to see the contents of the decedent’s phone?

Connivin Caniff | July 16, 2013 at 8:32 am

Elaborating on Mr. Natch, when is the sanctions hearing? Is it televised? What other actions will be taken against the prosecutors?

Doug in San Diego | July 16, 2013 at 8:34 am

Andrew, I really appreciated all your work and insight on this case.

One thing I noticed that was mentioned very little in the media was how the occurrence of the incident in an HOA common area vs. city streets affected the actions and perceptions of Zimmerman and Martin. What is the law in this area? Having been the member of an HOA board, I know firsthand that HOA neighbors are nosy neighbors, because it’s their common area property they are protecting.

Also, the slow-rolling of discovery by Angela Corey played a big role in this case; however, all that evidence would now be available in any future legal action because there would be time to depose witnesses, authenticate the messages on the phone, track down the bus driver Martin bragged about beating up, etc. Your thoughts?

    At the time of events, there was not yet a written agreement to allow the police to routinely patrol the HOA. They would, of course, come if called, but they didn’t routinely patrol on their own initiative. This would be expected to heighten Zimmerman’s tendency to call them if he sees something suspicious–he knows the police definitely won’t be in the neighborhood by chance, they HAVE to be called.

    So, he called.

    –Andrew, @LawSelfDefense, #LOSD2

If charged, Zimmerman would face criminal charges under 18 USC § 249 – Hate crime acts. There is a long recognized dual sovereignty exception to “double jeopardy”. In principle, both the United States and the State can bring criminal charges on the same transaction. To prevent abuses DOJ has written Guidelines (The Petite Policy) to ensure second prosecutions are brought only in the case of serious defects in the original acquittal. Basically these guidlines bar a second prosecution unless there is a defect, unreasonable verdict in the original prosecution or new evidence emerges. Section 4 of the hate crimes law The Hate Crimes Statute USC §249(4) codifies these Guidelines into law. Andrew may want to comment on whether this codificaiton will enable Zimmerman to contest the filing of charges at the pre-trial state.

According to DOJ Guidlines Three standards must be met:

“first, the matter must involve a substantial federal interest; second, the prior prosecution must have left that interest demonstrably unvindicated; and third, applying the same test that is applicable to all federal prosecutions, the government must believe that the defendant’s conduct constitutes a federal offense, and that the admissible evidence probably will be sufficient to obtain and sustain a conviction by an unbiased trier of fact. In addition, there is a procedural prerequisite to be satisfied, that is, the prosecution must be approved by the appropriate Assistant Attorney General”

The standards further state:

The [second] presumption may be overcome when a conviction was not achieved because of the following sorts of factors: first, incompetence, corruption, intimidation, or undue influence; second, court or jury nullification in clear disregard of the evidence or the law; third, the unavailability of significant evidence, either because it was not timely discovered or known by the prosecution, or because it was kept from the trier of fact’s consideration because of an erroneous interpretation of the law; fourth, the failure in a prior state prosecution to prove an element of a state offense that is not an element of the contemplated federal offense; and fifth, the exclusion of charges in a prior federal prosecution out of concern for fairness to other defendants, or for significant resource considerations that favored separate federal prosecutions.

Zimmerman was not acquitted on a matter that was ancillary to Federal Statute. The only defense to the manslaughter charge was self-defense. The reader can look at the other standards to see if they have been met.

Clearly Section 4 is intended to restore some of the double jeopardy protections that dual sovereignty strips away. If Zimmerman is entitled to a pre-trial hearing he can claim that given the relationship between the State prosecutors and DOJ, that “new evidence” was only not discovered due to lack of diligence.

There is yet another hurdle.

USC § 249 also codifies a two pronged test. In Zimmerman’s case Test 1 would be that he used a conduit of interstate commerce. That could be a public street. However the incident occurred in a private gated community. That little distinction alone may be enough to get an indictment dismissed. Test 2 is easily met since Zimmerman used a firearm no doubt shipped across state lines.

Additional evidence will likely be some new witness who comes forward with a story that Zimmerman uttered a racist word at some point. Is that enough for a conviction?? The statute states the killing must be

because of the actual or perceived race, color, religion, or national origin of any person”.

So finding that witness who says that Zimmerman uttered a racial epithet at some point may not be the pot of gold the prosecution thinks it is.

Even if argumento Zimmerman uttered a racial epithet at Martin, those words, absent a threat, do not justify battery of Zimmerman by Martin. The prosecution will still have to prove that the killing occurred because Zimmerman willfully wanted to kill man based on race and not through some misadventure. That seems insurmountable.

A final hurdle may the estoppel effects of a self-defense finding by the jury. Andrew can opine, but the Florida self-defense statutes may well control in Federal Court. One can argue that absent new evidence that this was not self defense, the State Jury finding must be left intact.

    iRain in reply to sequester. | July 16, 2013 at 8:59 am

    (The Petite Policy) to ensure second prosecutions are brought only in the case of serious defects in the original acquittal.
    ______

    The matter is settled, then, as there were no serious defects in the original acquittal, if in fact there were any defects at all.

    malc in reply to sequester. | July 16, 2013 at 9:14 am

    “Test 2 is easily met since Zimmerman used a firearm no doubt shipped across state lines.”
    Not necessarily. His Kel-Tec pistol was made in Florida. It is possible that it was shipped out of state to a distributor and then back to a dealer in Florida, but that is not certain.

      divemedic in reply to malc. | July 16, 2013 at 6:57 pm

      Interstate commerce is such a nebulous term that it applies to whatever the government says that it does. The case that started it all was a farmer during WW2 that was growing wheat for his own use, and was using more wheat than federal rationing allowed.
      The farmer claimed that since the wheat never crossed state lines, the federal government had no jurisdiction under the interstate commerce clause.
      The feds countered that since the wheat was grown and consumed by the farmer, the farmer did not purchase any wheat, and the lack of purchase had an effect on interstate commerce.
      The court sided with the feds.The case is Wickard v. Filburn, 317 U.S. 111 (1942)
      Ever since, the commerce clause has been used to justify everything and grant the US Congress essentially unlimited power.

        sequester in reply to divemedic. | July 17, 2013 at 8:29 am

        There is some case law here, no matter tenuous: United States v. Alfonso Lopez, Jr., 514 U.S. 549. The Supreme Court ruled the connection to interstate commerce was too nebulous to sustain the Guns Free School Act. There is a Federal interest in stopping true Hate Crimes. However a confrontation on a private street not used for commercial purposes may be too nebulous a connection.

        Of course, with goal oriented judges and prosecutors the actual law may not matter.

    sequester in reply to sequester. | July 16, 2013 at 9:33 am

    The Prosecution will argue that the Statute only incorporates a small portion of the US Attorney Manual. The Defense will argue that the manual must be taken as a while.

    The text of the Statute is:

    ) Guidelines.— All prosecutions conducted by the United States under this section shall be undertaken pursuant to guidelines issued by the Attorney General, or the designee of the Attorney General, to be included in the United States Attorneys’ Manual that shall establish neutral and objective criteria for determining whether a crime was committed because of the actual or perceived status of any person

      Valerie in reply to sequester. | July 16, 2013 at 10:05 am

      Nice academic discussion, here, but I would respectfully remind you that the text of law is of no concern to this administration.

      Remember, if you would, that Eric Holder doesn’t read his interoffice mail, that he doesn’t read or know the subject matter of lawsuits filed by his department and under his direction (Arizona immigration law), and he doesn’t know the definition of pertinent, common legal terms, such as “unprecedented.”

      You can argue the structure and fine points of the law all you want, but nobody within this administration is interested in hearing what you have to say.

      sequester in reply to sequester. | July 16, 2013 at 1:42 pm

      Valerie is correct in her assessment. For the record, in case anyone is writing a law review article, the statutorily incorporated section of the USAM is 8-3.300. That section invokes USAM Chapter 9-27.000. In turn USAM 9.26.230.8 states:

      Finally, if a person previously has been prosecuted in another jurisdiction for the same offense or a closely related offense, the attorney for the government should consult existing departmental policy statements on the subject of “successive prosecution” or “dual prosecution,” depending on whether the earlier prosecution w as Federal or nonfederal. See USAM 9-2.031 (Petite Policy).

No, marijuana use is not a big deal. But it didn’t need to be for purposes of using it in this trial. It does change your behavior in an observable fashion which backs up Zimmerman’s testimony. My feeling is that the only reason it wasn’t introduced was so as to not muddy the waters as to how much would have to be in Trayvon’s system before it would affect his behavior.

Say what you want but George had good instincts. Trayvon turned out to be everything George suspected he might be and then some.

    Another view that is likely correct IMO.

    divemedic in reply to Voluble. | July 16, 2013 at 7:00 pm

    I love the people who claim that marijuana doesn’t make people violent. Ask the guy in Miami that had his face eaten off last year. His assailant had no substances but THC in it.

    Like alcohol, marijuana can have unpredictable and unforeseen effects on human behavior.

Pay attention to the PRers. Nazi Germany had one.

JackRussellTerrierist | July 16, 2013 at 11:19 am

Civil rights charges against Z?

Looks like we got some more wannabe lawyers to deal with.

This nation of OURS has had a hateful, harmful Racial Agenda placed up on it, since a Senator from the State of Illinois began his run to be its leader. And guess what, that AGENDA is still with us and will be, even after he leaves the scene, IF HE Does leave the scene!

The economy, pfflltt!. Jobs, Pfflltt! Nothing else matters to him and his inner circle of lackeys, except THE Alinsky/Gramsci Neo-Marxist tactics based, on gradualism rather than a bloody revolution.

The gift was as Harry Reid stated: “Reid as saying privately that Obama, as a black candidate, could be successful thanks, in part, to his “light-skinned” appearance and speaking patterns “with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.”

When will the court hold the sanctions hearing for the prosecutors?

MouseTheLuckyDog | July 16, 2013 at 11:34 am

You are incorrect.
There are a few of more things still left on the agenda. They howevber are not a detriment to Mr. Zimmerman.

The first is an unfinished pretrial sanctions hearing for discovery violations on the part of the state. The state of that hearing is that Mr. West after being crossexamined by Mr. Di La Rhonda (sp?),s tepped down and Mark OMara called.Mr. DLR to the stand and he was refusing. The judge then announced that they were too busy to continue and suspended the hearing till posttrial.

The second is various actions against the prosecutors mostly in front of the bar. It seems that in their zeal to prosecute Mr. Zimmerman, the prosecution may have ignored several legal and ethical standards. One would have thought that Mr. NiFong would serve as an example of the evil of overenthusiastic prosecutions, but it seems another object lesson is neeeded.

The third is legal actions against media outlets who were all to ready to exagerate the evidence against George Zimmerman. Most notably NBC.

I hope LI as welll as other p[laces help keep me informed of the outcome of such things.

thats retarded sir | July 16, 2013 at 11:36 am

What about the sanctions against BLDR and McDreamy?

Fantastic coverage, Andrew! I was riveted by your posts and am so thrilled that you did this series. Loved every word.

Uncle Samuel | July 16, 2013 at 12:56 pm

4th credible threat – the racist-hate and drug fueled crazies.

Of course, the Obama, Holder, Sharpton evil trinity are doing nothing to stop that.

Obama could have done a lot of good as the first mixed race US President.

He failed. On purpose. In cold blood.

The federal civil rights case will rely on a laughable set of circular logic.

1. GZ was a racist, so he killed a black child.

How do we know that GZ was a racist?

2. Because he killed a black child.

Carol Herman | July 16, 2013 at 1:55 pm

Since I’m not a lawyer, I see obama is in a hole. I see Holder (committing unlawful acts), is in the hole with Obama. And, I see the media DESPERATE to try and dig them out. Especially because some of the media, ahead, can be treated to the Dan Rather “disease.” (This disease means you’re caught out saying something foolish. Your entire life now bears the label “Fake. But Accurate.”) And, this disease is spreading like a black plague over giant media outlets.

It may also become unsafe for white guys who LUV THEIR SPORTS, finding that going to professional games, will get them “stunned in their noses.” As an example, it won’t be a Knick’s victory anymore. It will be white guys laying on the floor. Knifed. Or beaten. It will mean someone will spit into the beer cup you order. It may mean a long foot comes out as you’re walking up or down stairs. And, you can then go fall hard on your head on the cement. Want justice? Nobody saw nothin.

What have raving black lunatics got to lose?

Tawana Brawley wasn’t a fair fight. She’s now 45 years old. It was difficult finding her … but the DA she accused? Must be some story how he found out her current name. Address. And, employer. Because her (meager wages) are garnisheed.

If the black community is proud of Al Sharpton, Ben Crump, Jealous, and Jesse (Hymie Town) Jackson … let them be.

The best outcome? Whites, Asians, Hispanics, should not have to be taught this reverse logic bullshit. The sooner we dump the “gender studies” … And, all the crap associated with the lowering of standards … we will know a force is great enough to get the pendulum swinging back.

I’m glad I watched the entire trial, here.

I’m glad there were professionals who love the field of law, commenting here.

And, I’m glad Mark O’Mara, in the “opening of his close” caught me short on my own attitude. Where I had called “the bar” A SALOON. And, the little door that swings open to allow those into the Bar, are not midgets coming in to the saloon. I needed that.

And, I bet way into the future O’Mara and West’s skills will be taught! Even in that PIT called “Haavahd.”

Uncle Samuel | July 16, 2013 at 2:36 pm

Discovery information re: Trayvon Martin in Miami, etc. at George Zimmerman Legal Case website run by Mark O’Mara, PA:

http://gzlegalcase.com/index.php/court-documents/174-defendant-s-3rd-supplemental-discovery

Numerous pages of information not brought into trial.

Uncle Samuel | July 16, 2013 at 2:42 pm

@cnnbrk – Jury selected in Fort Hood massacre trial. http://on.cnn.com/191c0HR

Hope PC fails.

Rachel Jeantel said last night on Piers Morgan that Trayvon thought Zimmerman wanted to rape him. Did TM then go to beat GZ because he thought GZ was gay? Isn’t that a hate crime?

    JSerio in reply to robbi. | July 16, 2013 at 4:48 pm

    She also stated that “cracka” means someone who “acts like they are police” or a “security guard.” Which means that it’s arguable that Martin had at least some understanding of who this person following him was and should have considered that it might not be a good idea to assault him.

      considering the fact that Rod Vereen her lawyer was also sitting in on the interview, I suggest that he gave her a script for those answers. No way that it means what she claimed on that show. She continues to be a liar.

Having gone up against several AUSAs in the past, I can almost guarantee that they will file some kind of charge against Zimmerman. Probably not what everyone is discussing. Probably some little know, vague law which would make any sane person shout “what???” The federal laws are often so vague that if the US government wants to get you, they can. Wouldn’t be surprised to see some charge arising out of the operation of the legal defense fund website. Maybe mail fraud charges. Also, the AUSAs are not thought that highly of by the judges in the Middle District of Florida. Based on my experience there, a claim that the government is withholding exculpatory evidence would not be surprising.

It’s worse than you think.

You probably think that the whole disgusting criminal cabal from obama to the inept prosecutors is just the logical result of marxist/racialist blinders.

But that’s the moderate and generous view.

The cold hard truth is that the whole lying pack of snarling criminals knew that they were destroying the life of an innocent man….and they couldn’t care frigging less.

I’ve been saying for 6 years that they will stop at nothing to get the power they crave. Now it’s open season on anybody who not only disagrees or exposes them, it’s open season on innocent bystanders if they think destroying the innocent will advance their agenda even a milometer. George Zimmerman, who would have been an exalted hero for 99% of the history of mankind, is the latest frightening example. Get used to it. It could be you next.

All the above is all irrelevant until parenting becomes the important priority that it is! Too many children, too much time on their hands, little if no parental involvement leads to s child searching out anything to fill the void left by poor parenting!

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