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Transparensorcery – “House immigration group reaches a deal”

Transparensorcery – “House immigration group reaches a deal”

But we don’t know what’s in it, via AP:

A bipartisan band of House members working on a comprehensive immigration bill has reached an agreement in principle, lawmakers said Thursday, after talks dragged on for months and appeared stalled earlier in the day.

The lawmakers did not provide details as they left a two-hour meeting Thursday evening, but said they would be working to write the measure.

“We have an agreement in principle. We’re now going to work on finishing up the drafting of the bill,” Rep. John Carter, R.-Texas, a member of the group, said Thursday.

Politico further reports:

Carter also said that he vehemently opposes the Senate bill, and declared it dead on arrival in the House.

Someone at the Daily Beast writes:

With the exception of whether immigrants on provisional status would qualify for ObamaCare, the House will be eschewing the piecemeal process.

This is a departure from earlier reports, and leaves me scratching my head a bit. I anticipate a far nastier fight over this bill in the House than in the Senate, and while Harry Reid wants the House to do a comprehensive bill, piecemeal legislation would probably have a better chance at passage.

Obama previously said he was amenable to a tougher House bill (compared to Gang of 8) as long as it included a pathway to citizenship.

I’m with Ted Cruz when it comes to giving citizenship to adults who broke the law to come here:

One of Cruz’s amendment takes direct aim at that bill’s “path to citizenship” provision, the central point of contention. His change says that no person shall be eligible for citizenship who has been “willfully” in the U.S. and without legal status.

The criteria for “willfully” are not defined.

So how big a cave-in have House Republicans made?


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Juba Doobai! | May 16, 2013 at 7:50 pm

Boehner is a pussy, no offense to cats. Likely, he caved totally.

House repubs are flaming idiots and DESERVE TO LOSE in 2014 is they let this POS amenesty bill go thru!

Heck, I’m probably more liberal than most House repubs… and 10000% oppose citizenship to illegals!!

Stupid House repubs!

There’s already immigration laws on the books! its called LEGAL IMMIGRATION!

Henry Hawkins | May 16, 2013 at 8:30 pm

Normally, and in the past, I would wait to see the actual agreement before passing judgment, but in the case of congressional Republicans I share our host’s implication that a GOP cave is certain with only the degree of it in question.

I’d love to see a bill outlawing secret groups, gangs, and other ‘write it and pass it before voter opposition can coalesce’ shenanigans, regardless of party.

    J Motes in reply to Henry Hawkins. | May 16, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    “I’d love to see a bill outlawing secret groups, gangs, and other ‘write it and pass it before voter opposition can coalesce’ shenanigans, regardless of party.”

    YES! Your mouth to God’s ear. The real God, I mean, not that gilded thing in the White House.

Why do these politicians have to re-invent the wheel?

Strict enforcement of current immigration laws would go a long way to solve the current inundation of illegals nationwide.

The only addition(s) I can think of is to end birthright citizenship AND make sneaking into the country a felony.

What is so difficult to understand with this concept?

I have thought for many years that our political betters have been trying to hide the real problems with Social Security, Medicaid, and other fiscally debilitating entitlements, and the newest bandaid they can put on the problems is getting money from illegal aliens to stop the bleeding for maybe a decade more.

How else to explain the confluence of progressives and liberal republicans to lobby for this bill? How else to explain why the Congressional Black Caucus, the NAACP, and the unions aren’t threatening every democrat who votes for amnesty with either a primary or a withholding of donations based on wages and jobs?

When everyone who will be hurt by amnesty is a supporter, you have to ask why – si se puede Baby. And having lived in Montgomery County, Maryland for many years, don’t replicate that in your community.

“But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.”

San Fran Nan.

Just about time for a Le-gal In-sur-rec-tion, ain’t it?

The first step to immigration reform must be to address the causes of immigration, legal and illegal. Before we can devise an optimal and effective solution, the issue must first be comprehensively and accurately characterized.

The second step is to address the burgeoning American population who are not active members of the economy and society. The safety net was never intended to carry a person, only catch them when they fell.

It may be a personal bias, but I think the government should be run by engineers. Not the idealistic variety favored by activists, but pragmatic men and women who focus on reality-based solutions to real-world problems. I would generally identify and enlist individuals as their skills and knowledge are required to completing a task.

Doug Wright | May 16, 2013 at 9:53 pm

I do believe that we do not need a new definition of our immigration law. Instead, a comprehensive enforcement of laws requiring that only legal residents or citizens may work in this country, along with an E-Verify process that is fast and accurate. Penalties for not complying with this E-Verify process must be harsh and prompt.

These bums! Enough!

Remember them — and target them for forceful retirement.

‘Republican’ has become as dirty a name as ‘Obama.’

I already told Alexander and Corker that I am not voting for them over the internet sales tax and other heresies they have committed in the past. If the House passes this then I am done voting Republican forever because they will have made it clear that they value the votes of foreign citizens more than those of US citizens.

It is at the point to where I would rather see the country burn down quickly than slowly and the best way to do that would be to allow the Dems to have their way unopposed. And frankly, with the current Republican party the Dems essentially ARE unopposed so what is the point?

Juba Doobai! | May 17, 2013 at 1:23 am

BTW, Obama has raised his two middle fingers to the country. He’s sent us a rip-roarin’ FU up yours by putting in charge of the IRS the woman who was responsible for screwing over Conservative, Jewish, and Christian groups.

This whole scandal is showing us how Obama is Islamicizing America via its institutions and fostering the culture of death so much loved by Muslims.

Perhaps impeachment will rid us of that pestilential knave called Obama.

Disinformation campaign going on by OFA:

—– Forwarded Message —–
From: “Emmy Ruiz,”
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 4:50 PM
Subject: VIDEO: Faizan’s story

Organizing for Action

Faizan is a Pakistani-born entrepreneur who started a brand-new tech company last year.

His plan: to bring it to the United States, to Silicon Valley. He knew he’d be hiring several employees and that his company was on the cusp of taking a big leap forward. But he had no idea if he was going to get the green card or work visa he needed to see his company’s first year through.

Because our immigration system is broken, people like Faizan can’t always bring their big ideas to the United States. The system is standing in their way. Watch Faizan’s story — and find out ways you can help pass the comprehensive immigration reform that could change all of it.

Watch Faizan’s story — then sign up for the March for Innovation.

Organizing for Action is teaming up with tech start-ups and companies from across the country to hold a two-day virtual march — the March for Innovation — to help build momentum for reform. It’s easy to join in: Just pledge to tweet or post on Facebook in support of reform during the virtual march next Wednesday and Thursday.

For the sake of our economy and our security, legal immigration should be simple and efficient. And people who want to bring jobs to our country should be welcomed.

But right now, it’s a process that leaves a lot of entrepreneurs wondering whether it’s worth the trouble — and it discourages some from coming at all.

A study by UCLA economist Raul Hinojosa-Ojeda estimates that if legal immigration is streamlined as part of comprehensive immigration reform, it will help grow our economy by $1.5 trillion in ten years. Smart and savvy entrepreneurs like Faizan can move their companies to the United States, and hire American workers to work there.

Congress needs to hear from their constituents that now is the time to pass comprehensive immigration reform — and next week’s online march will be a powerful opportunity to say it loud and clear.

Watch Faizan’s story, and then say you’ll be part of the March for Innovation:



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    Juba Doobai! in reply to janitor. | May 17, 2013 at 9:44 am

    Why do we need Muslims to come to do startups in Silicon Valley? If Obama releases his stranglehold on our economy, American citizens will do the jobs that Americans will do.

I’ll say it till I’m blue in the face — or purple, or green, or whatever — our ONLY way out of this is to replace the GOP leadership. NUMBER ONE ON THE HIT LIST IS BOEHNER.

We need to focus ALL our energies on this ONE GUY. We need to force his ouster!

Never trust a golfer.

Instead of Obamaphones the GOP is doling out free tickets to America for political gain.

Another back-room deal.
I am really sick of this.

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