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Freedom in Cleveland

What an unbelievable story.

I’m sure you’ve read all about it already, but look at these mug shots (via Cleveland Plain Dealer):

Cleveland kidnappers

Three longtime missing women, Amanda  Berry, Gina DeJesus and Michelle Knight, were found alive Monday,  apparently kidnapped and held for years as prisoners inside a house on  Cleveland’s near West Side.

Listen to Charles Ramsey’s 9-1-1 call to police after he found Amanda Berry.

The victims were taken to MetroHealth Hospital in Cleveland, and were released this morning in good condition.

Police this morning said they arrested Ariel Castro, 52, and his two brothers: Pedro Castro, 54 and Onil Castro, 50. Police have yet to question the victims extensively, saying they’re more concerned for their well-being at this time.

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Ask the perps if they are in the US legally if that’s not too politically incorrect.

    IrateNate in reply to paulejb. | May 7, 2013 at 6:54 pm

    Wow, what a sick world we live in, where the first question that comes to mind is their citizenship…

    Of course, that’s also the first thing I wanted to ask…

      theduchessofkitty in reply to IrateNate. | May 7, 2013 at 6:59 pm

      “Wow, what a sick world we live in, where the first question that comes to mind is their citizenship…”

      Just like wishing the Boston Marathon bomber was a “White American”…

    theduchessofkitty in reply to paulejb. | May 7, 2013 at 7:59 pm

    Let me clarify this situation for ya, shall I?

    The three perps are Not Mexican, not Dominican. They are Puerto Rican.

    A Puerto Rican, whether living in the Mainland or in the Island, is an American citizen, per the Jones-Shafroth Act, enacted and signed into law by President Woodrow Wilson on March 2nd, 1917. This act granted U.S. Citizenship to the people of Puerto Rico, it established a Senate for the island’s legislature, established a bill of rights for the island, and authorized the election of a Resident Commissioner to represent the island in Congress. (Nowadays, it is called a Delegate, but I digress.)

    Soon after, 20,000 Puerto Rican males were sent to World War I, having obtained that brand-new citizenship. People of the island have been going to every American-involved war since. WWII. Korea. Vietnam. You name it. Even Iraq-Afghanistan. Oh, yes, we have incurred heavy losses. (Again, I digress.)

    In other words, since 1917 we are American Citizens by birth in the island, under U.S. jurisdiction, by virtue of the Jones-Shafroth Act of 1917. And I’m saying “we” because I am an American Citizen, born and raised in Puerto Rico, from Puerto Rican parents, also citizens. For that reason, it is very easy for any of us in the island to pack our bags and move to the Mainland to find work and a place to live, when things are not so good there(and perennially, things are not very good there). For that reason alone, there are more Puerto Ricans in the Mainland than in the island. Not needing a passport and using the same currency helps a lot. Knowing Spanish and English is a nice plus. Having a degree from a Mainland, Middle-States-accredited Puerto Rican college is a big plus. (Thanks.)

    Yep, I’m an American Citizen. So are these criminals.

    You can’t say “Deport them!” Where, really? It’s still U.S. jurisdiction. Under the 14th Amendment, these criminals are just as American Citizens as you and I are. That, and resident subject of the state in which they reside (in this case, OH.) They will get every bit of justice they truly deserve, even if that means life without parole.

What boggles MY mind is that this is not one, but THREE sick men. Brothers in sickness. Brothers willing to steal the lives of three innocent young women, cover for each other, lie to the world about it, and find a way to be okay with themselves. Thank the dear Lord for the neighbor who helped Amanda out. If you heard him, he said he was worried at first, that he a black man, and she a screaming white woman, his actions would be perceived as he harming her. I am glad he didn’t listen to his that voice and went with his heart instead.

All will be told, but what is THE mystery is, in all that time, tied up or not, this was THE FIRST chance to escape?

That prison house is in a close proximity to other houses, screams or any commotion one would surmise, could have OR should have been heard.

Great news IS, they are alive and seemingly well. Charles Ramsey is a hero, the shame IS the man felt his color would be held against him in the freeing. Ain’t supposed to work that way.

look at their family history too, sister or something in prison for cutting her baby throat.
one of these guys inserted himself into the search I garner, then said it was waste of time, etc.
sociopaths

Let me think: Who else besides the three pictured individuals may consider the birth of a child to be punishment?

Attention, those who think that unlimited access to abortion is the “sine qua non” of the existence of full access to rights and equality for a class of human beings:

Now that a one shot abortifacient approved by the United States Food And Drug Administration throught judicial fiat is available to almost anyone with the money to pay for it, what will your reaction be when it is administered to a kidnap/false imprisionment victim or to a naif without her knowledge or consent?

You need not respond because I am sure that the reply will involve omelets, eggs and “progress.”

Thanks for the chance to comment, Professor!

DM

Truth is stranger than fiction it seems. The scariest thing about this whole ordeal will be when Hollywood starts clamoring for the movie rights, I for one will not be watching any such tripe.

BannedbytheGuardian | May 7, 2013 at 6:33 pm

What annoys me are the people who get on comments sections go all gooey & saying it is a miracle , thanking God ., let the healing begin etc.

Americans & especially Ohians should be allowed to be angry. They ought be extremely upset. But these people jump in & try & ameliorate the situation.

There is NO way the family did not know parts of the story . Ariel Castro’s daughter was the last contact ( & best friend ) of one of e. victims . The wife was almost beaten to death in 2005. The son mysteriously wrote about the disappearances. The da Gunter slit her baby girl’s throat ( to protect her every deaths.).

If I were Governor Kasich I would be down to every Catholic Church in Ohio & dragging the priests to publicly state. If any one in that family / community had brought their suspicions / guilt to confession.

No way people did not know.

    guess its a good thing we have a constitution here.

      BannedbytheGuardian in reply to dmacleo. | May 7, 2013 at 7:07 pm

      What exactly does it say about Priests & their withholding of knowledge – if any ?

      Can a court demand they talk – in most countries they can be forced . I bring this up because there is a national inquiry into institutional child abuse ongoing here where the Catholic church has been dragged out publicly . There are current submissions that catholic police members have covered for them way up the chain .

      If it were A Muslim cleric would the construction allow them to hide terrorist knowledge?

        you ended up saying how you would go after the church w/o knowing if any of them even went to church.
        IOW you would have no issue using the government to alter the behavior of a church.
        like I said, we have a constitution.
        priest-penitent privilege may not be rock solid/foolproof/all encompassing but its pretty well protected.

          also I don’t know how clerics do confessions so cannot say.
          as a protestant I don’t have that protection.

          BannedbytheGuardian in reply to dmacleo. | May 8, 2013 at 12:31 am

          Somebody in that PR catholic community knew & had a heavy heart . If those 3 actually went to confession – um yes it is a must.

          This is not about contraceptives – although that is more than pertinent .Would a Protestant / secular monster would be more likely to use them ? Yes.

          Thanks for the thought.

    So now it’s a bash the Church story. Tomorrow a racist story? Good grief.

    A priest cannot (should not) absolve a criminal before the criminal turns himself in, especially in this case because the crime is in progress. The priest could tell the guy he’ll accompany him to the police station. If the guy takes off, the priest can tell his bishop what he knows of a situation where lives are endangered without revealing the identity of the person. I think this can be reported.

      BannedbytheGuardian in reply to JerryB. | May 8, 2013 at 12:34 am

      You live in dream world. If this were the case – priests would have turned themselves in for their crimes.

      Show me the number of confessions – any in the world.

      They have all had to be dragged out .

Wonder if they are related to Fidel? Or maybe they arrived here in Jimmy Carter’s Mariel Boatlift? I understand Castro sent us a few bad apples in the 125,000 that came here in that fiasco. Hope they’re not native born. Big Sis will use them as an excuse to stockpile more ammo.

BannedbytheGuardian | May 7, 2013 at 6:37 pm

Ah auto correct. The daughter slit her baby girl’s throat . Often these actions by pare nts of children are because the parent wants to save the child from an unbearable pain that they foresee.

Picture three Jacks (Castro) and a Joker (Tsarnaev), ropes around their necks, twisting in the wind.

They ought to have the full protection of our Constitution and our criminal justice system that is beholden to it.

Then, skin them alive. Slowly.

Doug Wright | May 8, 2013 at 12:09 am

So many unanswered questions about this case!

There’s a fourth woman missing from that area, is there any information regarding her.

There’s statements on the web about possibly 5-pregancys and perhaps other miscarriages experienced by these three women during their captivity.

The full depth of the criminality of these three Castro brothers will take a long time to unravel, along with the question of who else was involved.

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