Beheading of British soldier in South London reminiscent of Syrian bloodletting
“they were hacking at this poor guy, we thought they were trying to remove organs from him”
It will be easy — and likely correct — to assert that this is another Islamic terrorist attack.
But I think it is more than that.
This is what we see in Syria.
A very up close and personal bloodletting and then triumphal braggadocio.
Like the Syrian rebel fighter who ate his enemy’s heart on video. And the very personal violence visited on captives from both sides.
Except that it happened in South London.
The BBC reported sources had told them the men were shouting “Allahu Akbar” as they carried out the attack and had filmed carrying it out.
One witness, called James, told LBC radio: “We saw clearly two knives, meat cleavers, they were big kitchen knives like you would use in a butcher’s, they were hacking at this poor guy, we thought they were trying to remove organs from him.”
“These two guys were crazed, they were not there, they were just animals. They then dragged him from the pavement and dumped his body in the middle of the road.
“They took 20 minutes to arrive, the police – the armed response.”
I think Ben Domenech gets it right:
This is what a society in collapse looks like. vlt.tc/vem
— Ben Domenech (@bdomenech) May 22, 2013
(more videos and photos at LiveLeak)
Update: Drew M proposes another analogy, Ramallah 2000:
Update 5-23-2013 – 10 Things Worse Than Eating a Dead Man’s Heart.
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Phew! Good thing that the people there were unarmed. I am sure that no one could have stopped that knife assault with a gun. No siree. And that goes for the police too, given the 20 MINUTE response time. If I lived there, I wouldn’t be particularly comforted by this. And note that the weapon was a KNIFE.
The criminal stated “…in our land…”. Well, it isn’t exactly your land is it?
Maybe he was right: he said “you people will never be safe, your country doesn’t care about you”.
Sounds a bit on the mark.
It amazes me that these guys did this and then just kind of hung out at the scene of the crime to give their manifesto to anyone that would listen. Try that in Texas… if the police did have a 20 minute response time the perps would be dead for 19 minutes before the police got there.
Just more satisfied “customers” of Britain’s immigration service.
This is horrific. I have no words.
The horde is inside the gate. I wonder what the British intend to do. Unlike Serbia, but not Norway or France, the corruption of their society was elective. Their representatives decided their fate. They established policies to invite immigration which exceeded the rate of assimilation. Of course, their choice to normalize abortion, and other dysfunctional behaviors, only served to hurt their democratic argument.
Vote Labour… and you can come in and live on the Dole.
Policies which promote dissociation of risk cause corruption. This is a problem for both the “benefactor,” beneficiary, and everyone in a society.
I think, the answer, regrettably, will be the ELD because Brits cannot rely on their police or their MPs. Somebody should have made the Muslims read Henry V’s words to the bishops: “take heed how you impawn our person, how you awake the sleeping dogs of war. I charge you, take heed!”
Reading the Brit press, the Muslims are saying this is not Islam. This has nothing to do with Islam.They don’t condemn the killers; they just say this is not Islam. Well, sorry, guys, blood, slaughter, terror is the history of Islam. They claim the ummah until people begin to strike back at them, then they turn individual and say it has nothing to do with them personally. Cowards.
The problem is two-fold. First, Muslims are directed by their Koran to spread their religion by the sword. Second, Islam is often realized through left-wing ideology, which implies marginalization and evisceration of competing interests. It is especially virulent in its Caliphate or imperial form, which imposes its will on other nations (or tribes). Together, Islam and atheism, have been responsible for more dead people in the streets and in the toilets than any other religion or philosophy, which reached an apogee in the 20th century.
That said, a philosophy (or religion) creates a disposition, but does not guarantee an outcome. This is especially true of atheism, which is unprincipled, and therefore highly inconsistent. A singular, and I would argue childish, rejection of a divine God is not a sufficient basis to develop a common morality. Its consequences are exacerbated when substituting mortal gods.
Most of the comment sections I’m reading are in politically correct hysterics, calling this ‘blowback’ against the ‘far right.’ Begging for death.
Comment? Not on this one. I’m speechless.
Coming soon to a country near you!
Here in the USA we have constitutional protections; the English do not.
Yet, here, we can get arrested for filming the police.
Apparently not so in England – they merely get told to “Get Back!”
At least in my state, for now anyway, when some deranged camel worshiper comes running at you with a butcher knife you can shoot him/her till they stop.
More “workplace violence”.
1987 some British and German acquaintances accused me of being a lot of bad things – homofobic, racist etc. Because I used to claim, the islamic “friends” they supported with money, favours and usually sex – will take the favours, say thx and then kill them.
Which is now happening regularly since 15 years at least.
I don’t mind, that’s the natural way things develop – except that I’m forced to pay taxes to finance the armies of Islam defenders, Islamic hate preachers, lawyers, polititians, Islamic killers, rapers, robbers and other fridom & rights fighters. Each penny hurts.
Hey lurkers – another good reason to read the LI Tip Line. I posted this there at 2:09 pm.
This is astounding, freakin’ horrible. I hope it’s the event that wakes the UK the f**k up. There are several videos extant – in the one I listened to the killer has a British accent, implying he’s a UK homegrown terrorist.
Prediction – This happens soon in the US and it happens in or around Detroit, MI, which has a huge Middle Eastern population in its suburbs and is PC-related overly tolerant of Islam. Perfect for radicalization of Islamic homeys.
Good luck from Europe, Henry. You guys may not know, but Europe was already on the brink of moslem slavery in 1400 – 1683. Unsurprisingly, there were the decried Poles (I’m not Polish) – not the Great German Warriors Nibelungs and Heroes – who saved Austria and the rest of Europe from slavery, rape and murder.
But remember, it was a last minute act, almost coinidental.
Not sure your Nobel Piece Prize Mr President Obama is up tro the task. And people who vote for him, deserve their fate actually. But you guys are lucky – the pond is between you and THE MUSLEMS.
Thanks for the good wishes, Darvad. The pathway in America is clear – wherever you find abject liberalism in control of local government, you find the sort of blind PC and appeasement that leads to the sorts of problems with Islamist radicals currently dogging the UK. So, they might make inroads in NYC, LA, and other liberal Democrat fiefdoms like Detroit, Philadelphia, and Boston, but there’s another geographical 99% of America that has not and will not stand for that bullshit.
If that guy claims to live in Chicago, Obama will welcome him home.
Hey, can we have some more of that multiculturalism over here?
There is a parallel between Labour’s open door policy for immigrants from poor, backward countries and the continual push for Amnesty by Democrats here. Poor and ignorant people are more compliant and apt to vote for “stuff” rather than ideas (see also: “Obama voter” and “low-information voter”). The Left would rather win by destroying their country than by supplying real solutions and ideas.
God damn them all.
Mexican drug cartels also love beheading those that resist them, including the police. The cartels have been found reaching into Oregon and certainly Chicago, not just the border towns.
Obama’s response is to open the borders and reward illegals with welfare and Medicaid, while trying to restrict American’s rights to gun ownership. Even Mexicans that are not in the drug trade, bring the Mexican culture with them. That includes the corruption, not just the food and music.
Remember, Obama will not be paying for them. You pay for him and for them. Therefore his policies.
Follow the money buddy. All those armies of rights campainers are paid by someone, aren’t they? I guess you’re writing the checks.
Unbelievable. The above comments are on target: coming soon, failed immigration policy, debunking the myth of “islamaphobia” = “racist”.
“I’m sorry you had to see this”???!!!
The violence is becoming more brazen hasn’t it? No longer confined to “war torn countries” either. And yet, those who dare to warn others are still going to be portrayed as wearing tin foil and or pointy white hoods.
“If I had a son, he’d look……”
Ah, just what we can expect once the new Welcome Immigrants and Amnesty Bill, the one being worked up by the Gang of 8, is passed and becomes the law of this land! Wonder what the Burqa Laws and Sharia Laws will be enacted too?
After all, this beheading is simply work place violence, most likely caused by the nasty treatment those two poor souls received from the Brits!
They ran over him first to knock him down for beheading, so it’s not workplace violence – it’s a pedestrian-vehicle traffic accident.
Yay. Diversity. Multi. culti. Religion of peace. P.C. and best of all…SHARIA.
Why all the Islamophobia?
Maybe he’s a boxer.
Somehow this is because of white racism and global warming. Somehow.
Somehow Ezra Kline will figure it out. Somehow.
Hot summers are notorious for contributing to riots in urban areas, global warming is notorious for contributing to hot summers, and rich white men are primarily in ownership of the carbon-producing corporations, therefore, Klein’s evidentiary burden is met. Give me another ten minutes and I’ll work in Kevin Bacon. Oh wait – he’s a white man. Keep the ten minutes.
With the exception of the Dailymail – all the newspapers & media outlets that I have visited have closed comments.
That should tell you everything. Whatever Britons are feeling – it is somehow more dangerous to the elite than Islamists . Already an attack is being waged against an old foe EDL as if they are the terrorists.
But still Cameron & Hague want to arm the Syrian ‘rebels ‘ .and they are quite happy to have their own soldiers hacked to death in a London Street by the self same jihadis.
Britons have nowhere to go via Parliament . Conservative voters got stamped on by Cameron on same sex marriage – something not even on his election mandate. Cameron , Clegg & Millithing are truly pathetic.
Britain has 3 choices – none of which are printable.
I note that the DM is forced to ‘moderate in advance’ comments. Some I saw earlier have disappeared it seems. & only nice ones allowed.
they had guns (that blew up on them) and yet ran the guy over then cut him up. they were baiting police, they wanted to take out more but it backfired. literally. took fingers off when it did too.
The scary part is, this country is following Britain down the same road.
And, ignoring the warnings.
Ah yes, Islam, the Religion of Peace (or bodily pieces) strikes again. These savages must be kept out of all civilized societies. Britain is lost.
Let the mass deportations begin. Immigrated to Britain? Born in Britain? Second generation British Muslim? It doesn’t matter. Deport them all. When Muslims are in sufficient numbers in any society, they start killing. Return them to wherever their parents/grandparents came from, take away their passports and citizenship. No country can continue to exist with such barbarians in their midst.
Dzokhar Tsarnaev said if you hurt one Muslim you hurt all, and he could say that because Muslims believe in the ummah. Well, the corollary to that is when one Muslim kills all kill. Using that logic, let the deportations begin. Our laws should not be used to protect savages.
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Shades of Kosovo. We should probably bomb Britain to resolve this conflict.
Re: Britain: see Mother Jones homepage, good stuff there, Brits. Or, you know…3D printers. The shot they don’t expect is the shot that saves your ass.
Re: Syria: stop trying to make me care, people. Yes, I watched each and every video on RacAnarchy’s website. It was dreadful. It was also predictable (he didn’t have any skin in that game, did he?). The various Islamic countries involved in various states of unrest have been in a constant race to the bottom to see who could be the most awful for the most protracted length of time for at least the last 60 years, and it’s been encouraged by the Arab press and whatever passes for its cultural elite because it was all in retribution for the Great Disaster (Israel’s creation). So…whatever. Let’s not go kicking ourselves in the ass to go fix another unfixable portion of the sandbox, please.