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Whistles are in, self defense is out

Whistles are in, self defense is out

At College Insurrection yesterday we posted Wash U. — Rape whistles in, guns still out, about the Whistle Program at Washington University in St. Louis.

So it was timely that I saw a tweet today about this post by rising star Gabriella Hoffman, Dear Fellow Females: Firearms, Not Rape Whistles, Best Deter Criminals [link fixed]:

The Left is relentless in their efforts to ban guns. They will stop at nothing to see every law abiding gun owner disarmed and helpless. It is also apparent that the Second Amendment means bupkis to them. Instead of using firearms to deter criminals, leftists have proposed women taking up rape whistles and scissors.


We’re often told that women shouldn’t be able to handle guns because they’re “scary killing machines,” yet somehow we’re now expected to serve on the front lines. But I digress… Additionally, the Left views women as victims who must rely on the government from cradle to grave (think Life of Julia). What happened to the Left being about so-called women’s empowerment?

Speaking as a young female, I honestly don’t see how whistling our problems away or using scissors will likely deter a pervert or aggressor from attacking us. Do anti-gun proponents honestly think a criminal will be merciless because their intended victim is going to beg and plead and whistle them away? NO. Criminals are criminals because they don’t follow laws and have the intent of harming people.


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Professor, did you see this? Its from a parent who’s kids attend sandy hook elem. school..

“”From My Cold, Dead Hands Jackasses!” ” — from a Sandy Hook parent

h/t from Market Ticker

I feel safer already–just like I did when I heard that the NYS legislature banned me from putting 10 rounds into my 10 round magazines.

    Ragspierre in reply to persecutor. | February 4, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    I can silver-solder a couple of your mags butt-to-butt.

    A little practice, and you could trade them in about a second.

      persecutor in reply to Ragspierre. | February 4, 2013 at 7:26 pm

      Thanks Rags! The lunacy of things here in NY is that in my home and on the street I can only put 7 rounds in a 10 round mag, but at the range, I can load it to the brim.

      Must be really dangerous at the range, doncha know!

      AndyBoy Cuomo can go fornicate himself!

        bobby b in reply to persecutor. | February 5, 2013 at 3:16 am

        ” . . . on the street I can only put 7 rounds in a 10 round mag, but at the range, I can load it to the brim.”
        – – –

        It’s a safety issue. The way they figure it, when you’re at the range, all you can shoot are your fellow gun nuts, and so they don’t get so worked up about it.

        Ragspierre in reply to persecutor. | February 5, 2013 at 7:48 am

        Seriously, it would be lousy for carrying, but in your home, you always know where that first spare mag is!

      profshadow in reply to Ragspierre. | February 5, 2013 at 7:04 am

      Naw, just get one of these handy “New York Reload” trenchcoats! Six on a side ; two sides. Moon clips down the back!

I noted that the Collective calls testimony from women like Gayle Trotter regarding women and guns…

loopy arguments from…


Which shows how out-of-gas the Collective is. This was from the NYT, btw.

Impressive argument…not.

Sissors are confiscated at airports…

Henry Hawkins | February 4, 2013 at 2:25 pm

They are half a step away from telling women how to dress more demurely so as not to invite rape.

Hmmmm….whistles are very easy to take away from young women. Handguns in the hands of weapon-trained young women, not so much.

Don’t worry your pretty little head over it, girls.

Prof, your link to Gabriella’s post seems to be out of commission.

Henry Hawkins | February 4, 2013 at 2:46 pm

People will rush to the sound of a whistle the same way they rush to investigate car alarms.

    Ragspierre in reply to Henry Hawkins. | February 4, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    Or a coyote rushes to a screaming rabbit.


      kevino in reply to Ragspierre. | February 4, 2013 at 3:11 pm

      Ragspierre is correct: Rape whistles may be very useful in a gang rape situation as it will help other participants locate a rape already in progress.

      Seriously, though, this is just pathetic. The country is well on it’s way to a society like they have in the UK, where the right to self defense in your home or on the street has been essentially take away; and where the level of violent crime (per 100,000) is much higher that the US. The number of rapes per 100,000 is about twice that of the US. Keep up the good work, Idiots.

I have a question: are females under the new system really assumed to be capable of thinking? The level of “we have to take care of them” leaves off the rest of the sentence “… because they’re not capable of taking care of themselves”.

I’m personally not quite clear how a whistle or pair of scissors is going to work. Whistles are NOT very loud, and people can blow whistles for all kinds of reasons. When I was a college kid, everybody ignored car-alarms. But a gun – now THAT makes a really loud sound, everybody knows what it sounds like, and everybody also knows that when one goes off, its because something VERY serious is happening. I’d choose a gun loaded with blanks (if you were somehow opposed to hurting the person who’s going to hurt/kill you) – at least you’d get better response than a whistle.

And seriously – a rapist is going to give you time and presence of mind to pull out a pair of scissors? Oh, and don’t forget to enroll in the “scissors v. baseball bat or lead pipe wielded by a much larger/stronger opponent” self-defense course.

    Mister Natural in reply to radiofreeca. | February 4, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    and of course the only type of scissors they’ll let you carry concealed will be the ones with the round tips(lest you run with them) they use in kindergarten.

    bobby b in reply to radiofreeca. | February 5, 2013 at 3:26 am

    ” . . . don’t forget to enroll in the “scissors v. baseball bat or lead pipe wielded by a much larger/stronger opponent” self-defense course.”
    – – –

    You don’t need to worry about making a big time commitment for this one. It’s a VERY short course.

People forget that tyrants or predators come in various guises and forms…

Henry Hawkins | February 4, 2013 at 3:02 pm

Now, if you’re assaulted alone in a park, the rape whistle won’t stop the rape, but it might draw in a passerby who’d call 911 and be a witness. Or it might call in a second rapist. Who knows? If only there were a way for women to secure their own safety before the assault occurs.

Mister Natural | February 4, 2013 at 3:07 pm

and of course, with the scissors you must stand your ground because everyone knows YOU DON’T RUN WITH SCISSORS!

So, wait, someone being attacked by a rapist or mugger is supposed to blow a whistle? Why? No one except the rapist/mugger has a gun, so what’s supposed to happen? Someone else armed to the teeth (with a whistle, of course) can . . . um, join in on the whistling to alert other armed whistlers.

Maybe the hope is that someone running with scissors (!) will come and save them?

I don’t mean to make light of it; this is deadly serious, but when I hear leftist “solutions,” my snark machine goes into overdrive.

This woman knows how to write and fight the Left. Hire her — for anything and everything.

A friend of mine’s wife, a model in Miami, stopped an assault and potential rape with a Beretta handgun in her bag. (Her trained Belgian Malinois stopped another attack). Dogs and guns. Both good.

Where is today’s Desmond Llewelyn to invent a semi-automatic whistle?

MaggotAtBroadAndWall | February 4, 2013 at 3:36 pm

You give your daughter a toy found at the bottom of a box of Cracker Jacks to fend off potential rapists and predators. I’l give mine a concealed carry permit and a
Glock .45.

I wonder who sleeps better at night, you or me?

Come on ladies, huh! The scissors are for cutting patterns and you know, other FEMALE stuff.

BUT, the Left and their loving media will never let you know that.

THAT is how the LEFT thinks of you, not the RIGHT!

I support defense in layers. If it is possible to prevent an act of involuntary exploitation by coordinating with allies in the vicinity, then that is the first step to be taken.

It’s a risk management problem. Women, and men, need to consider the possibilities and act to mitigate known and unknown risks. If our judgement is wrong, or our actions are unwarranted, then we will be held accountable.

That said, the proposed gun control laws, which focus on empowering criminals, are poorly conceived. However, if they do pass, it may be sufficient to bypass them, and [re]purchase guns, especially the full automatic designs, directly from the cartels in Central America. I wonder what the Mexicans will think about several million undocumented visitors.

    Goonions in reply to n.n. | February 5, 2013 at 8:18 am

    Hey, Mexico gets to pay us back for Fast and Furious with only criminals getting the big guns now. Payback is hell.

The thing that creeps me out about the scissors recommendation is that if you are fighting someone bigger and stronger than you are with scissors, there’s a pretty good chance that they will take the scissors from you, and then use them on you.

Someone somewhere is going to read that recommendation, try it, and get their throat cut out with the very thing they tried to defend themselves with.

Since everyone is disarmed, the only good that a whistle may do is for someone to call the police so the rape kit can be applied right away–assuming the victim is still alive. Otherwise the police can draw nice chalk outline of the body.

But we should all be really afraid of those gun nuts. You know, the gun nuts who never seem to go crazy with their legal guns. Instead of being so afraid of attackers, gangs, or mobs. Because, after all, sooner or later the police will catch the criminals. And they will only shoot a few wrong people along the way.

Can’t whistle the rapist away? Then enjoy it!

Mister Natural | February 5, 2013 at 6:38 am

victim: if you come any closer i will blow this wonder whistle!
rapist: if you blow that whistle i’ll slash up your face and you’ll wonder what the morons who told you to blow it were thinking; every day , when you look in the mirror, for the rest of your life.
conclusion: rapists are not nice people and may not respond to your puny whistle as you wish
get a gat

You people realize that these folks at DHS actually sat around a table and discussed this issue and came up with this solution. I cannot fathom that. The clowns are in charge of the circus. I think Barry needs to arm his Secret Service personnel with rocks and scissors. By the way, have you guys seen the new tactical assault rocks?

Stop! Or I’ll say ‘stop’ again!

My son, a USMC veteran, is a senior at a very liberal university. He leads the on-campus veterans group and they are very active in working to serve both veterans in the community as well as serve the campus as a whole.

The campus is very spread out and in an area that is very hilly and the parking lots are in remote and dark locations. There have been a fairly large number of women – and some men – attacked and the campus has signs promoting a number of “safety” things all over.

The veterans group took a proposal to the student council, they volunteered to set up a service to escort students or faculty on campus after dark. All participants would pass police background checks and nobody would be armed. The head of the campus police and the chief of police in the surrounding city were both actively supporting the idea.

The campus feminist organizations went into full estrogen overload. Their representative at the student council was screaming that THEY didn’t need any MEN to protect them. The idea was tabled.

” . . . on the street I can only put 7 rounds in a 10 round mag, but at the range, I can load it to the brim.”

Not here on Oahu. No sirree Bob! We don’t allow anyone at the (government owned) Coco Head shooting range to load more than 5 rounds here, both in magazines and revolvers. Try it and you will be thrown off the range. Stated reason: If someone goes crazy and starts shooting people, s/he will have only five rounds in the gun.

Really. That’s the reason they gave me. Apparently our enlightened City Council ordered it. I feel so much safer knowing that homicidal maniacs will be ejected if they shoot more than 5 people before reloading.

The Honolulu City Council proudly defends shooters’ lives.

And Coco Head is the only outdoor range open to the public on Oahu.

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