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The Tea Party tsunami at the gates

The Tea Party tsunami at the gates

Grover Norquist is predicting a second, even larger Tea Party wave, via Breibart.com (h/t Instapundit):

“We are about to have a Tea Party second wave that will dwarf the first wave and that is because while ‘spend too much’ brought the Tea Party into existence, we’re about to walk into ‘spend too much, regulate too much, and tax too much,’ all together. It’s going to be a perfect storm of annoying government behavior, which is devastating to the economy, and I think the small business community which is particularly hit by Obama’s tax increases are going to lead the fight bigger, stronger, tougher than the last Tea Party.”

I think he’s right.

I hope that Legal Insurrection and College Insurrection will be at the forefront of that wave.  It’s one of the reasons I asked Leslie Eastman, who had been helping at CI and has her own blog, to start keeping track of the Tea Party movement for LI.  Anne also has a background not only in the movement but also in studying what motivated Tea Party supporters to become politically active.

The first Tea Party wave was a threat to Democratic control of Congress, and the response was vicious demonization and false accusations of racism.

Operation Demoralize is the Democrats’ attempt via sympathetic media to convince opponents of the Obama agenda that there is no hope and no alternative but capitulation.

Post-election, Operation Demoralize is in full swing.  We are told the permanent liberal majority has arrived, that we live in a media bubble and cocoon, and that we were dishonest — not just wrong — in our 2012 assessments.

Expect Operation Demoralize to go bipartisan.  Already we are told to blame the Tea Party movement for not taking back the Senate, even though more “moderate” Republicans lost their races than Tea Party supporters.  (Todd Akin uniformly and incorrectly is described as a Tea Party candidate, when he was not.)

In reality, the Tea Party movement gave rise to our next generation of leaders, including Marco Rubio (the establishment backed Charlie Crist) and Ted Cruz (the establishment backed David Dewhurst).

Every time you hear cries about how the Tea Party movement is racist or part of the too-old, too-white problem, remember that the two Republican leaders who are best positioned to reach out to a group which should be our natural ally, Hispanics, came from the Tea Party movement.

The movement can be its own worst enemy, if we allow personal interests in fame and fortune to override the message. We need to fight the self-aggrandizing tendencies in some of the more monied Tea Party organizations.

The second wave is an answer to the disaster at our doorstep, so expect the demonization of the Tea Party movement to increase.  Dramatically.

Unlike the first time, however, we know what to expect.  And unlike the first time, the economic problems facing the country are so severe that a movement based in economics and individual economic freedom will resonate beyond its base.

We have nothing to fear but our own demoralization.

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The Tea Party should become a real party and bring about the death of the Republican Party. Send the RINOs out with the Whigs.

I’m not demoralized as much as I’m incensed. No, not incensed, angry. No, not angry, just plain mad. I’m so mad I can’t sleep at night. I’m so mad that I walk around muttering to myself. I’m so mad, I’m mad!

I find myself angry at my leftie friends, even the ones that are just plain clueless. I need a movement that I can join and let some of this energy go to work.

Tell me, folks. If the president WERE trying to bring down this country, what would he be doing differently?

    jeffrey in reply to JoAnne. | December 1, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    You have expressed my thoughts/feelings perfectly. I am in a position to devote full-time to it but it feels so hopeless where I live in Sonoma County , CA. My district voted over 70% dem. My state is supermajority dem. The city councils and county boards are ‘green’. I feel like a voice crying in the wilderness. And it is tough to approach every day feeling like your quest is futile. Worse, I develop real estate and require government approvals and good will to conduct business. Being a lightning rod of opposition is against my business interests. But I have had enough and resistance is all I care about now.

    We need to develop a network amongst ourselves for mutual support as well as to share best outreach practices. The dems have been community organizing/government centric types for many years. They are good at it. I have been a live and let live type – not wanting to press my views on others. In my case, there is an organizing skill gap to close.

    I never stopped self-identifying as a Tea Party Minded voter and refused to capitulate to attacks by liberals and RINOs.

    Ragspierre in reply to JoAnne. | December 1, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    I’d be delighted if someone could provide a compelling argument against my assertion that Pres. Not Optimal is working the…

    Cloward-Piven Squared strategy.

    Nobody has.

    What I mostly get is very awkward silence, since that is such a terrible thing to contemplate.

      I don’t doubt for a minute that Obama is working the CPiven squared strategy you mention. Going off the fiscal cliff fits right into that. Nevertheless, I am willing to go off the cliff. We would then see if the premise of the even-larger Tea Party wave is correct. We may as well shake this out now.

        persecutor in reply to Rick. | December 1, 2012 at 2:43 pm

        You have to hit bottom before you can begin to recover. The cliff is not the bottom, but it’ll be close to it.

        Count me in.

    Uncle Samuel in reply to JoAnne. | December 1, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    ME TOO – Ditto, likewise, same here.

    Owego in reply to JoAnne. | December 1, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    “If the president WERE trying to bring down this country, what would he be doing differently?”

    Mrs. Owego wants this on a bumper sticker. Make two, we have two cars.

If you can crack through the media blockade of all accurate info detrimental to the desired World-view, minorities are actually more open to the idea that government is not necessarily your friend. They actually can more easily see government as trying to subjugate everyone except their Cronies.

Plus everyone wants to believe that tomorrow will be at least as good if not better for the children. Education, K-12 and higher ed, premised on adjusting to a stagnant to contracting Green Economy is just not a vision anyone wants to hear. It’s why it is so important for Tea Partiers to understand the Real ed vision and the Agenda 21 vision and the lies about manmade catastrophic global warming. And building an economy around models is a centrally planned economy.

We cannot afford to only understand a portion of the overall Ecosystem political vision for the 21st Century.

I know that I and many others share JoAnne’s feelings, and I am grateful for those like the Prof, LI, and CI, who are not missing any beats and are leading the way forward. Something big will come of this, and I hope that it is the larger wave that Norquist mentions.
I have doubts about Norquist himself based up the following, the veracity of which I can’t vouch for. http://frontpagemag.com/2012/arnold-ahlert/norquist-loses-his-grip/

    jeffrey in reply to Rick. | December 1, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    Re Norquist. No one is perfect. But I truly appreciate his efforts and success at blocking tax increases. I wish there was a Norquist type person who would field a ‘No new spending’ pledge.

    Oh how I long for the passage of Cut, Cap and Balance.

    jeffrey in reply to Rick. | December 1, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    A further thought re Norquist or any conservative who takes a leading role. I think we need to be pushing issues forward rather than seeking perfection in our leaders. If we focus on Norquists failures we miss the value of his strengths.

    The strength of conservatism is in its ideas not in the frail humans who carry them forward. Let’s be kind to the people who carry the ideas forward.

      Rick in reply to jeffrey. | December 1, 2012 at 3:40 pm

      I agree. We cannot expect perfect leaders, and Norquist’s tax work seems exemplary. On Islamic issues, not so much.

      chilipalmer in reply to jeffrey. | December 1, 2012 at 9:30 pm

      Absolutely no to Norquist in any way for the same reason I wouldn’t partner with Soros. Since the election this individual has had a PR bonanza for himself. He’s a longtime Beltway hack whose tax gig is a gimmick for his main interests which are to propel Islam into US culture, to prevent Americans from having secure borders, and to have things like the Ground Zero Mosque. He’s successfully commandeered CPAC and ACA into Muslim PR operations. Now he’s opportunistically playing up to the Tea Party which accomplished quite a lot without him. Norquist was at the center of power during the Bush years and obviously did nothing to stop the destruction of the GOP and the country. Where was he when George Bush created the wasteful Dept. of Homeland Security and a bunch of other expensive boondoggles? Throughout history bad men have advanced themselves by building a public persona as a good guy. George Soros is an example. Organized crime figures do it. I’m not looking for “perfection” nor am I a “purist.” Open borders Norquist needs to be exposed and rejected in that same way Soros does. I have no idea why Instapundit and Breitbart promote Norquist, perhaps it’s part of being “professional” Republicans.

    Donald Douglas in reply to Rick. | December 1, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    I think Norquist is right, Rick, but for God’s sake let’s not let that guy become some hero for a resurgent tea party movement. He’s an Islamist-enabler of the worst sort, and progressives don’t care about one issue or the other. It’s all of a piece. Folks need to realize it. See: ‘Don’t Promote Grover Norquist as Voice of Resurgent Tea Party Movement’. And thanks for the heads up on that FrontPage piece. It’s quite accurate.

Let’s ROCK n’ ROLLLLLLL….

We MAY be past the tipping point, but there is a record to create for those who come after us. I want it to be clear, strong, and positive.

I read the election as a repudiation of Republican social conservatism, not as a ratification of Obama’s economic stewardship.

My main evidence: the issues that the MSM pushed to the forefront, such as Akin and Mourdock’s silly comments on abortion. Once they saw that Ryan’s fiscal ideas were popular they pushed him offstage as fast as possible. After all, it was ladyparts that Obama kept talking about — he didn’t do that because the GOP was strong there.

We need to rekindle the Tea Party, at the local precinct and country level, and at the national/media level. I suggest a national demo day on April 15, with a mass gathering in DC and in several major cities like LA and Chicago. We need to be organized for the 2014 elections, and be ready to field real Tea Party candidates if the national Republicans cave to Obama in the coming weeks.

    jeffrey in reply to caseym54. | December 1, 2012 at 12:23 pm

    Your first paragraph rings true to me. It is certainly true in my locale.

    Ragspierre in reply to caseym54. | December 1, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    I suggest you can’t read. Respectfully.

    Fracturing the conservative movement WILL result in the predictable loss of support AND enthusiasm.

    The Collective’s war on values is predicated on lies. If you want to capitulate to that, count on them focusing on lies (or MORE lies) respecting strictly economic issues.

      jeffrey in reply to Ragspierre. | December 1, 2012 at 12:50 pm

      I think reconciling the social libertarian/fiscal conservatives with the social conservatives is important to do. I am a practicing, church-going christian and have been forever. I have lived my life in a socially conservative way. I endorse it as good, even the best.

      At the same time, we are a nation of freedom, liberty, respect for others, individual rights. We are a nation where abortion has been legal on a federal level for 40 years. Gays exist. They are human beings. Why is it essential that we impose our will on them in regard to marriage or abortion?

      I agree that we need all conservatives to be united in one group. There will be many differences among us. How can we accommodate many while respecting our differences?

        Ragspierre in reply to jeffrey. | December 1, 2012 at 1:04 pm

        You turn things neatly on their heads.

        Who but a militant minority of “gay marriage” activists are seeking to FORCE VIA GOVERNMENT a corruption of a historical, biological, and cultural norm? In other words, who picked this fight? Nobody I know opposes civil unions, and I’ve written legal instruments that give gay couples all the benefits of civil marriage save tax advantages.

        Either abortion is wrong on it is not, and that is true regardless of “long-standing custom”. Is an unborn child a homo sapien or not? If not, why not, according to science? Genetically, they certainly ARE.

        I am irreligious. I come at these matters from a strictly rational standpoint.

      We have been fighting the abortion decision for 40 years and going nowhere. While abortion remains a moral and spiritual issue, it is pretty much a dead horse politically. I doubt there are any votes left on the Court to overturn.

      All the fiscally conservative/socially liberal folks I talk to voted for Obama because they could no longer stay in a party that kept whipping this dead horse. In not too many years, no woman will remember a time where abortion was illegal. Are we still going to be fielding candidates who view that as their main issue then?

      We are losing election after election and the fiscal conservatives are getting rather done with a republican party that cannot win. The Republicans need to adapt. Or die.

        Sanddog in reply to caseym54. | December 1, 2012 at 3:33 pm

        You know people who identify as fiscally conservative and voted for Obama? That’s as absurd as someone who identifies as a social conservative voting for Obama. Neither side of the republican coin can be reconciled with Obama’s positions and goals.

          jeffrey in reply to Sanddog. | December 1, 2012 at 4:25 pm

          Some in my area say they are fiscal conservatives but it does not dominate their voting as much as the social issues. Again, the ’68 summer of love’ hippies all moved north to my county to raise green and rainbow children. My district spawned Lynn Woolsey the chairwoman of the congressional progressive caucus as well as Barbara Boxer. The place is full of nitwits.

          IrateNate in reply to Sanddog. | December 2, 2012 at 3:51 pm

          any person who claims to be fiscally conservative and socially liberal is basically too cheap to spend his own money on a progressive agenda.

    9thDistrictNeighbor in reply to caseym54. | December 1, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    “I read the election as a repudiation of Republican social conservatism, not as a ratification of Obama’s economic stewardship.”

    I believe, rather, that the embrace of Democrat social liberalism has led to the vast and growing-exponentially entitlement state, hence the electoral success of Obama.

      I suggest a slightly different mechanism at work…

      The Collectivist distortion of markets has finally resulted in a catastrophic failure in the economy…

      which has been carefully nurtured by policy designed to pull money out of the private sector and credit markets for redistribution (mostly to compliant and supportive players)…

      leading to many Americans resorting to government support which was SOOooooo easily attained AND extended…

      which they are loath to let go of, in rational recognition that a market economic recovery is nowhere assured (though I have complete faith that it would have begun the day after Romney was elected).

      THAT is not an American embrace of the Collectivist philosophy so much as pragmatic voting to reflect a broken (on purpose) system and an individual’s (felt) need to hang on to something in the shipwreak.

        @ Rags. Speaking to your cumulative points, how do you suggest we prevent winning the 2014 war and then once again turning over the reins to the bunch of cowardly, self-aggrandizing elitist hyenas known as the GOP?

      Yes. But if you want to reverse that you must do it by reversing it in the culture first. And that you must do with honey, and patience, and by drawing lines from effect back to cause in movies, and stories and books and by example. It must come from below; not from the top.

      If we try to impose it first, through laws and political movements it will be rejected by those who re culturally different as fascist or something. It creates a dissonance with our message of individual rights, limited government, etc.

    logos in reply to caseym54. | December 1, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    Caseym54:

    You said: “I read the election as a repudiation of Republican social conservatism, not as a ratification of Obama’s economic stewardship.”

    Yeah!

    “Republicans need to stop nominating right-wing extremists like John McCain and Mitt Romney.”

    http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-biggest-lesson-the-gop-should-learn-from-the-election/

While the GOP might go the way of Whigs, a new political party needs to protect itself from the slew of false prophets that will arise. The 2009 2010 TEA Party movement saw that bunch of self anointed leaders confuse the issues.

Two funny gems from Greg Gutfeld:

Greg Gutfeld on MSNBC’s strategic editing to make tea partiers seem racist:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jwg-f3dqN4

Greg Gutfeld on media coverage of Occupy vs. media coverage of tea parties.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnWjxgiFEc8

    LukeHandCool in reply to LukeHandCool. | December 1, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    P.S.

    Isn’t that Toure in the background nodding in agreement to Contessa Brewer’s contention that there are “white people showing up with guns” (even though the armed guy was black)?

    This clip shows media malpractice at its absolute worst.

Dang, no sooner did I pen a comment on the previous blogpost addressing “the bubble” citing the attack on the Tea Party than this blogpost shows up. I might as well cross-post that comment here…

https://legalinsurrection.com/2012/11/cool-tool-to-help-keep-me-in-the-bubble/comment-page-1/#comment-394902

“At the risk of stating the obvious and deflating the mirth bubble, I’ve long noted Liberals’ go to defense of their sins is to issue dictums to their bubble dwellers to execute “I know you are but what am I?” dictum ac factum counter-offenses.

It is quite sophomoric yet the Liberal Media-Political Complex issues these dictums with full confidence knowing their liberal mind-slaves will echo whatever they are told to echo… echo… echo…

Example: The Liberal Media-Political Complex attacking the grassroots legitimacy of the Tea Party as AstroTurf thus signalling their liberal AstroTurfers to execute the on-demand attack in unison.”

    Also, they seem to have no qualms about lying. If they find that a group of people respond to a particular lie then they keep on using it to herd that group around. It doesn’t bother them if the lie has been completely exposed and debunked in the larger universe. They just keep using it to herd that group even while saying a completely opposite thing to the larger universe. Dissonance and incoherence doesn’t bother them. The immorality and nakedness of their reaching for power seems to be admired.

This election will be viewed, in tandem with 2008, as the point at which the myth of the benefits of universal suffrage exploded. Uninformed voters ruled the day and have run the world’s oldest republic to the brink of suicide.

The Tea Party cannot overwhelm the superior numbers of the mobs of dummies, the young, the singles, the minorities, the parasites who have discovered, as Jefferson feared, that they can with majorities vote themselves monies from the public purse. If it were possible, we would have won this year against the worst record of any incumbent standing for reelection in our lifetimes.

In particular, those who falsely claimed the mantle of Tea Party leadership – TPX, TPP, and the other self-appointed TP organizations – have been exposed as impotent and irrelevant. Muslim toadie Norquist and his silly pledge have always been mainly hype.

[One note on Norquist: is there a single muslim “leader” who was embraced by the Bush White House or campaign and later turned out to have ties to extremist organizations and/or their fund-raising networks, who was NOT introduced to Republican circles by Norquist? Even one?]

No, the answer to the socialist coup is a producers’ strike, already under way by corporations with over a trillion to invest and the most hostile environment for investment in American history, soon to be fully joined by small businesses angling to survive the second term of the Obama Regime in the hope America comes to its senses.

    jeffrey in reply to Estragon. | December 1, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    Estragon: I sincerely believe the producer’s strike idea is a way to go. There is historical precedent for it working. Look ad Gandhi’s successes in India with the salt. In the early days in England such things were instrumental in bringing the king to the bargaining table.

    I suspect conservatives are a majority of the producers.

    Remember the ‘Day Without a Mexican’ that happened a few years back. We need a day without a producer. Or maybe one day a week for a month. One day will not be enough.

    MaggotAtBroadAndWall in reply to Estragon. | December 1, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    “This election will be viewed, in tandem with 2008, as the point at which the myth of the benefits of universal suffrage exploded.”

    Yeppers. When people who are so incapable of governing their own lives can’t figure out how to get a photo ID card have an equal say in self government as a well informed voter who studies issues and policies and votes accordingly, we’ve reached the tipping point. The Left’s obsession with equality and radical egalitarianism has not only won versus our idea of liberty, but buries it.

    People like me attributed Obama’s first election to the financial crisis being so close to the election, McCain being a poor candidate, and insufficient media vetting of Obama as a candidate. But none of those can be blamed for his re-election. The electorate made an “informed” decision to re-elect him. They chose equality in the form of an expanded welfare entitlement state over liberty. Until (if) there is a mindset change that liberty is a higher value than equality, I am not nearly as hopeful as Prof J and Norquist.

In my opinion, nothing frightens The Liberal Establishment more than millions of citizens banding together into a singular grassroots movement in opposition to their actions.

    Doug Wright in reply to VotingFemale. | December 1, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    VF: So very true. The Collectivists would tear out the words “We the People” and replace them with “Our Dear Leader, Savior, and Messiah!” Ugh, barf, yuk!

Maybe this time, we won’t be so stupid as to hand our victory on a silver platter to the likes of the clueless, talentless, ball-less hacks entrenched in the GOP.

Imagine if a ‘man’ (or a ‘woman’) was elected GOP Speaker in 2010, instead of that crying, boozing idiot John Boehner. I suspect Obama would never have been reelected, because just as the Bush leadership/fightback ‘vacuum’ swept Obama into office, the Boehner lack-of-anything ‘vacuum’ did the same. Same for the talentless, ego-driven Eric Cantor.

Also imagine the GOP headed by the likes of Allen West, instead of the likes of Michael Steele or Reice Peanutbuttercup (or whatever his name is).

It’s pointless to win — and there is little motivation to fight — if you know you will hand your victory over to losers like the entrenched bums at the top of the GOP.

Positioning who we will hand a victory over to must be job number one.

Some of you express exactly what Im thinking. And Im glad the Prof posted all this. One reason I had objections to this

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/334541/we-need-conservative-summit-mona-charen

Is I saw it as an attempt by what Ill call the “republican establishment” to deal itself in with efforts of the teaparty mindset. Why not just join in with teaparty folks? Why the need to be distinct somehow?
Or maybe Im reading too much into the suggested entreprise.

    jeffrey in reply to jimzinsocal. | December 1, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    jimzinsocal: I don’t see what has been suggested here as different or apart from the Tea Party movement. I see things like this as the essence of the Tea Party movement.

      jimzinsocal in reply to jeffrey. | December 1, 2012 at 1:24 pm

      Fair enough. I may have been overly suspicious when I saw the suggestion given the location and lack of teaparty mention. Not like the writer suggested lets join the teaparty efforts at the grassroots level.

    The entrenched hacks don’t want to lose their power, and thus their privileges.

    Make no mistake: their pockets mean more to them than their country.

      jimzinsocal in reply to TheFineReport.com. | December 1, 2012 at 1:27 pm

      Thats what I was getting at with my comments above. The deal seemed like a “positioning” with yet another group wanting to rise above grassroots efforts.

My dear friends, even here in MA there is a strong core of the Tea Party Movement. I have no doubt that we will be able to turn the tide. Those that want to change our nation into something that we can not recognize and those that are willing to go along to get along are on notice. We are not angry: We are motivated!

    raven in reply to RWB. | December 1, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    No, I’m angry AND motivated.

    It’s been a bad year, dating back to November 2011.

    1. Palin declining to run.
    2. Herman Cain’s implosion.
    3. Newt’s flame-out.
    4. Andrew Breitbart’s death.
    5. Reaffirmation of the MSM’s control of the Narrative (“new media” was far less influential than we thought)
    6. Romney’s mind-bogglingly pathetic campaign.
    7. Allen West’s loss.
    8. Finally, the inconceivable – Obama’s re-election.

    A Tea Party tsunami? So what. Until we develop the skills and nerve and to confront the Left and the media on THEIR OWN TURF AND TERMS, nothing changes. Until we acknowledge the war we’re in and start equipping ourselves for it and fighting it, nothing changes.

    I want warriors. Nothing less works for me anymore. I’ve totally lost interest in politics as we’re playing it. I don’t even pay attention to Boehner and McConnell and the rest of them. You want my attention? Call Bob Schieffer a useful idiot to his face. Tell Candy Crowley or George Stefanopoulis they’re installing an American Pravda. Call out Obama as a liar on national TV. Discuss impeachment of Eric Holder over Fast and Furious. Call for the resignation of Kathleen Sebelius over her violation of the Hatch Act. Start FIGHTING. Every minute of every day. Turn Washington into a war zone. It’s a war already — against us.

      You are angry, motivated, and have great clarity.

        Just to add: Palin, Cain, Newt and West were hated by the GOP hacks, and they were sabotaged by the GOP and the arrogant failures running the Romney campaign.

        The one thing you did not mention was the need to install leadership who will carry out your ‘war zone’ vision. Palin, Cain, Newt and West were among the people who would do it.

        Boehner, Cantor and McConnell are about as willing to go to ‘war’ (except upon conservatives) as Charlie Brown.

      HONK! HONK!

      jimzinsocal in reply to raven. | December 1, 2012 at 2:03 pm

      Add in Obamacare surviving SCOTUS. That for me was a huge defeat for all of us. Look at the things we are learning today: Health and Human Services considering a 3.5% “fee” to health insurers that participate in the exchanges.
      Walmart dropping health insurance for new hires.
      But Obamacare is supposed to save us money. Okey dokie.

        Right. Don’t know how I overlooked this. I was thinking about it last night, how John Roberts served as a judicial mirror image to the political Establishment in his contortionist effort to accommodate the received wisdom. We need warriors and we’re getting just higher level versions of non-warriors, vain, image-conscious collaborators to tyranny. It’s perverse. But this was always the Left’s goal, to reach a point at which the fear of their stigmatizing social power was absorbed irresistibly into the ruling class culture.

        The truly perverse thing, however, is that their power is illusory. This is why they’re so hysterical and on edge all the time. They know this, and live in fear because of it. If we only knew how to work this (if we weren’t living in greater fear). The Left is the man behind the curtain in Oz. There’s more of us than there are of them, and if we rose up and took the risks to rip away the curtain and lay it all out in the open (passing through the fire of their shrieking hate without looking back), we’d have them. They got nothing but lies and coercion and the dead weight of human dependence. We’ve got the Constitution and practical reality and human freedom. But we have no warriors, no one willing to pass through the fire.

          Rick in reply to raven. | December 1, 2012 at 3:52 pm

          The Roberts’ collapse was astonishing. Did Obama’s SOTU address, in which he slammed the USSCourt, have this impact? I still cannot get over that decision and what it may portend.

      Rick in reply to raven. | December 1, 2012 at 4:00 pm

      9. Mia Love’s loss.
      Stefanopoulis got away with his huge assist in his 2008 interview of Obama in which Stefanopoulis caused Obama to “correct” Obama’s statement about “my Muslim faith.” http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=my+muslim+faith+obama+slip&qpvt=my+muslim+faith+obama+slip&FORM=VDRE

    jeffrey in reply to RWB. | December 1, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    I am actually angry. In fact, I need to be careful. I engaged in a discussion with a man in a Home Depot parking lot the other day who had Obama bumper stickers. It started amiably about how the election went and what his attraction to Obama was. It moved to Obamacare. I pointed out that guys like him who had voted for Obama had indirectly reached into my personal pocket to the tune of $70 additional per day (Due to 3.8% ACA surtax on income over a certain threshold). I suggested that he should at least buy me lunch. He demurred and said I didn’t know what I was talking about. But I did know. And explained the law. Anyway..one thing led to another and t ended with unkind words flying both ways.

    Oh well. I need to hone my techniques.

I often observe liberal carbon copiers tweeting the exact same tweet in the hundreds if not thousands over a span of days, weeks, and months.

Most of the twitter accounts doing so are low follower count and mostly in the wood works on twitter. I also have no doubt that many of these twitter accounts are fake and owned and used by liberal non-profits to give the appearance of grassroots.

The authoring source of of these carbon copy tweets originate via CredoAction website and by suggestions from DailyKos FreePress and other lib non-profits to utilize the CredoAction website to give the organized appearance of grassroots.

http://www.credoaction.com/

Examples of carbon copy tweets…

https://twitter.com/katiegetman/status/274938601962356737

which is spawned by http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/sec_chair/?rc=tw1

-and-

https://twitter.com/placatetheshade/status/274939629466173441

This is, in my observation, liberal professional astroturfing…

It was Obamacare that got me involved in the Tea Party movement in the first place and the more I see the clusterfark that is the execution of this monstrosity, the more I think that Obamacare might just be Tea Party’s winning issue.

Here’s an article from the other day about the exchanges and how the feds never planned for states to opt out. There are surely black clouds ahead. And they don’t even have the software covered?

Hope and Exchange: The feds blame the states for refusing to become ObamaCare subsidiaries
http://tinyurl.com/chysmqj

HHS just came out with 10,000 pages of additional regulations this week with at least 10,000 more due shortly. I saw that the health insurers were “anxious” to see them. So they’re still writing additional regulations on the fly..

And finally a personal anecdote: my husband & I received TWO calls on Friday from our respective doctors’ offices, reminding us of annual tests we needed to schedule (routine, and not tests we always undergo). Both automated calls referenced reminder letters that would be forthcoming; my husband’s doctor’s call advised that, pursuant to federal law, reminder letters would be sent repeatedly until the test was taken! Imagine, this is just one tiny aspect of the law, micro-managing annual tests and establishing requirements (and monitoring compliance?) for routine tests of all its citizens.

So just this week, amid my depression & anger, I came to the realization that I think they may have finally over-reached beyond anything even they could imagine. And hopefully as implementation rolls out (or doesn’t), people will begin to experience what we’ve been writing, talking, marching & warning about all along.

Then again, I’ve been wrong before!

    We are beginning to feel it here in California. One of our familiy’s doctors just quit, deciding to retire early and simply live on less.

    jeffrey in reply to jeannebodine. | December 1, 2012 at 4:31 pm

    Just wait until they start saying they won’t treat an expensive advanced condition because you skipped a routine annual visit that might’ve brought the condition to light at a less advanced and cheaper stage.

We’re losing the culture war. The Tea Party is fine and we need that kind of focus. But the Left is defining the culture and forcing us to play with their rules.

We need to fight back and turn the tide. That is why losing Breitbart was so important to us…he was a culture warrior. Where are the next generation of leaders like him? Who can fight the media and win like Newt? Can Rubio do this? Can Cruz do this?

We need a culture movement which can make the Party’s values seem reasonable, modern and cool.

Just some random thoughts on my part. All I know is that we have an image problem and we need to fix it. I could be wrong here but I do believe we need to start thinking outside the box.

Feel free to disagree.

Note to self: Stop moping and get back here more often.

Thank you, Professor. This one went down well.

Excellent discussion y’all but what about TrueTheVote? That is the only unmentioned point and it’s a doozy! If we don’t get serious about who is counting the votes we may as well hang it up. TrueTheVote dot org (or com) is one righteous bunch that offers training and structure. Sign up and get started, then check out Procinct dot net to start taking over the Repubs in your county. Batter up is us! Thanks Professor Jacobson:)

    True the Vote checks voter registration, with the tools permitted by each state. For instance, in my state, the drivers’ license data base is not available to the public – although one left wing rag makes a searchable data base available on its website of those licensed to carry guns. What twisted rationale produced that? TTV also trains poll watchers.

    What TTV cannot do is verify that the voting machines haven’t been rigged to default to Obama or look over the shoulder of the foreign firm, which “counts the votes”.

    Remember, Democrats always win the close elections because they have a history of pulling boxes of ballots out of the trunks of cars of election officials. In order for republicans to win, they have to win in excess of the margin of fraud.

    Then what can be done about suppressing the vote of the military when the ballots are “destroyed in a plane crash”?

Google the Tea Party Patriots and check for a group in your area. There is lots of support for turning the Tea Party into a real party and right now is the time to do it when we can make a strong showing in the 2014 mid-terms.

What is missing so far is a national leader with the knowledge of how parties are created and organized.

Look into how this is done in your own area, get established as a party, find a passable candidate, and start campaigning NOW. Platform is less taxes, less spending, and less regulation and remember that when asked dumb questions the answer is to point out that the subject has no relevance to the main issues. Don’t take no for an answer and don’t be defensive. Audace, toujours l’audace!

I wish to add a thought to this thread. Remember 2010! republicans took back control of the House. It would appear that the obamazombies didn’t turn out unless Obama was in the running. Let’s do it again in 2014 – only capture a majority in the Senate, as well.

TeaPartyPatriot4ever | December 2, 2012 at 12:36 am

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by JOHN NOLTE 1 Dec 2012 Brietbart(dot)com

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“Is America now a bigger version of Chicago, where Democrats and the media have so expertly rigged the electoral game that, even as their policies fail, they’re able to stay in power?”

That is of course a rhetorical question, ie; meaning it is reality.

Thus, if “We the People” / the Patriotic American Conservative Tea Party folks, Independents, etc, how are to take back our Nation and restore America as a US Constitutional Republic, and where Free Market Capitalism is the economic engine of the Nation, not Socialist Marxism, how is to be done with the massively corrupt maniacal diabolical sinister insidious subversive people currently in charge, ie; Obama and his crony henchmen and women, along with all of their willing complicit sycophants in the media, hollywood marxist leftists, unions, as well as Billionaires like George Soros, etc..

I know one thing for sure, this end victory over tyranny will be along and hard road.. I pray I see that day come where Freedom and Liberty is once again is restored to We the People and America.

TeaPartyPatriot4ever | December 2, 2012 at 12:38 am

Sorry for my misspelled words and grammar mistakes..

just finished an article written on 11/8/12 that clearly indicates the GOP is taking the lead in operation demoralize.

As for the rest, we need to stop labeling people as ‘teaparty candidates’.. Marco Rubio has his own version of the dream act. Allen West voted for the NDAA, as did pretty much all Republicans. Lets stop the celebrity worship and vet candidates just like we the people are when we apply for jobs. Because that is all a candidate is.. a applicant for a job WORKING FOR US AND NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.. WE ALL NEED TO REMEMBER THAT.

Are you ready for some Football, errah, I mean Tea Party? Ready to Rooooaar!

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This is a nice wish, but I’m not holding my breath. The real truth is that people are tired. While they may be tired of government, they are also tired of politics and political parties. This was the real message of the 2012 election. Can they become energized again and fight for change? Having better candidates would be a help towards that end, but only a start. There needs to be something more. Maybe when the Obamacare taxes kick in and takes its toll on personal finance and business, people will care enough again to get involved. Maybe.

Frankly, I’m to bitter right now. I will never, ever understand how Obama won. Normally after an election loss it takes me less than a week to get over it. This time I really feel something has changed. Changed in the country or in me I don’t know. As for the tea party…they’ve got to do a better job on picking their candidates. I mean really, Richard Murdock? The guy was a creep. Yeah, I voted for him, but my 23 year old daughter voted straight republican with the exception of the Senate seat. She left that blank. I don’t blame her a bit. Why in the hell are these candidates saying such stupid things about rape? Democrats are going to define us no matter what, lets not give them the rope to hang us with.

Akin and Mourdock were obvious disasters. We need to vett socon candidates better to make sure they dont come off as raving religious fanatic lunatics. A lot of older moderate repubs lost senate races too, so it isn’t all the fault of the socons, but Akin and Mourdock didn’t help. Note that Ryan was also very conservative on abortion, but he managed not to sound like a lunatic on the issue. We need senate candidates with new blood, but also carefully vetted, especially on socon issues, to make sure they can win. Rubeo, Rand Paul, and Cruz are good examples of tea party candidates that can win.

I am also getting weary of falling on our swords to protect the rich from tax hikes, when most of them end up supporting the dems anyway. And there are also far to many rich folks getting crony capitalist favors and bailouts from the gov, many of them from Obama, especially wall street, hollywood, and the bandits in DC. We should be pro free market, pro middle class, and pro small business, not necessarily pro business.

I think we should give in on taxes for the rich in exchange for real large spending cuts. Of course right now Obama and the dems are trying to get their tax hike without any give on spending, so I stand against thye tax hike for now.

One suggestion I would have is publically offer Obama his tax hike on the rich, but with a rider that it wont take effect until spending falls below 20% of GDP, with a ratified house/senate budget that also has spending less than 20% for the next 10 yrs. This would take the issue off the table, and put the spotlight on spending, where it belongs. If the dems refuse to control spending, with this proposal the tax hike would never come anyway. And if they do give on spending, and get it below 20%, the trade would be worth it.

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Written the morning after; apologies if you’ve seen it too often (or maybe it DOES bear repeating):
Goodbye GOP

The patron saint of Chicago politics said it: “Nice guys finish last” – Leo Durocher

So you offered us McCain and Mittens. And they were crushed by the passion, and the venom, of the machine. As for living on as what the Brits call “The Loyal Opposition”, fuggedaboutdit.

Then who will assume that role? May I suggest a marriage of the passion of the Tea Party to the principles and the discipline of the Libertarians? But first the former must rid itself of the hypocrites and fools that contributed to the demise of the Republicans.

How can you ask government to regulate who shall marry, or whether a pregnancy shall be carried to term, and not expect to get the nanny state of the elitist Bloombergs of the world? Abdicate if you will, the admonishing of your daughters to keep their legs together, and you will find your sons are told to put down that Big Mac. Ask government to intrude into bedrooms, but do not deny that it will tell you where and with whom your children will be schooled.

The outlier, to use a now popular phrase, was Reagan. But did any Republican since he show the cajones to tell Gorbachev to “tear down this wall”? The Libertarians have a fighter in Ron Paul, but his time has past. Who within the Tea Party has shown the consistency to resist the darker sides of what passes for humanity, the Obama statists, heirs to their fellow Socialists, Marx, Stalin, and Hitler?

So to you who bemoan yesterday’s results, I say gather your resolve for tomorrow’s opportunities. Offer not candidates who, like Perot, say “I ran a business” nor compromised combatants like Gingrich who pushed back at the media or Christie that pushed back at the avarice of the educational establishment. Find instead a Reagan for our time, one who combines courage with principle. Then this nation will see an opposition worthy of its trust.

Tom Beebe
November 7, 2012

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