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Allen West St. Lucie County recount results (Update – Board misses deadline)

Allen West St. Lucie County recount results (Update – Board misses deadline)

(Newest updates are on top).

UPDATE 5:40 p.m. — Various news reports confirm that the partial recount (which was only of early votes in St. Lucie Co., a small percentage of the total vote) did give Murphy a slightly larger lead.  But West’s campaign is not giving up, Allen West Camp to Contest ‘Suspect Result’ on ‘Behalf of all Voters in District 18’.

UPDATE 2:41 p.m. — Confusion still, unofficial results may indicate a small increase in Murphy’s lead, but that is not verified yet.  Via Palm Beach Post: “Although results have not been certified, final numbers released by the canvassing board today show West with 52,704 votes in St. Lucie County and Murphy with 65,841. These tallies, added the final results from Martin and Palm Beach counties give Murphy the win with 50.16 percent of the vote to West’s 49.51 – a spread of .65 percent.”  Via Tweet from West supporter: “West -52672 (previous)- 52704 votes – 32 vote gain for West Murphy – 65567 (previous) votes 65841 – 274 vote gain for Murphy.”

UPDATE 1:47 P.M.: West going to court — Will contest certification — From “a source close to Allen West” provided to Legal Insurrection:

St Lucie missed the deadline for certification, so automatically the previous results are what go to the Secretary of State for final certification.

Our attorneys are seeing if it’s possible (today) to get an emergency extension of the deadline.

We have until Nov 30 (10 days) to contest the election in Talahassee, and then there would be a hearing scheduled in December.

Of course, the Secretary of State may decide to NOT certify the results because of the discrepancies -and we have yet to see the results of the auditor’s report which may recommend a retabulation.

Just as background, one precinct has 7 voters registered and yet recorded about 900 votes. That’s a 13,000 percent turnout.

Clearly, something is amiss.

UPDATE:  West seeks hearing after Murphy camp declares victory when St. Lucie board misses noon deadline.

UPDATE:  Announcement expected shortly.  Reportedly because Canvassing Board missed state deadline, it will use the non-recount tally.  If that happens, expect all hell to break loose.  The Canvassing Board stop re-tabulating last night even though the West campaign wanted to continue.  Then the Canvassing Board got a late start this morning, and because there was a problem with one of the memory cards, there was no time left to deal with the problem.  Here’s what one of our sources says, “”By not completing the count last night, they missed the deadline so the state is using the data from last sunday that had us 249 from automatic recount. Lawyers are trying to get an emergency injunction to have th state extend the deadline.”  We’ll find out soon.

UPDATE: Nothing has been certified yet. If there was in fact a malfunction with a voting tabulator, Allen West may still have an avenue to ensure that the unofficial results from last week are not certified.

From [Emphasis mine]

A noon Sunday deadline has passed to report new returns in the race between Democrat Patrick Murphy and Republican U.S. Rep. Allen West.

Officials in St. Lucie County, where a recount was being conducted, made no announcement of their findings.

Under state law, unless they have received an emergency exemption from the state, unofficial results filed last week will be certified.

Those results showed Murphy the winner in the race by about 1,900 votes.


UPDATE: Confusion in St. Lucie County as the 12:00pm deadline to certify results has come and gone. The twitter account I’ve been following for updates, @AllenWest4Congr (not his campaign account, an account run by supporters), just tweeted out the following three tweets:



The results of the recount in St. Lucie County are due in at any minute.

Recall that west was down by .58% at last count. If he can decrease that margin to within .5%, then a state mandated full recount of Florida’s 18th Congressional District will be required by law.

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Please let this recount be on Allens side. He is a true American Patriot, and we NEED him in congress

Kudos to Congressman West for pursuing this “smelly” system in St. Lucie County. Unfortunately our voting/election system is aligning with those in the Middle East, the same ones whom our country frets about as being fair. Hopefully justice will be served and the legal winner of this race will be determined.

    zazz in reply to K. | November 18, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    The “legal winner” is likely to be Murphy if the recount missed the deadlinee. Allen West may challenge that, but doesn’t appear to have much of a case under Florida law, whether the canvassing board ran out the clock or not.

      The voting irregularities alone should have been enough to cause the St. Lucie County Board of Elections to have reason to question if the results were accurate.

      Just the one example listed in the story means that either there was a massive mechanical problem, or there was massive voter fraud (900 “votes” in a precinct where only 7 individuals are registered voters). WHERE did the other votes come from? Now there may be a perfectly reasonable explanation for it, but that explanation ACTUALLY HAS TO BE PROFFERED.

      I think that if this actually gets to court, it has a better than average chance of being forced to a recount. My guess is that FL SoS will not certify, and will force a recount based on the evidence.

        I read that comment here. It’s not making the public statements from the West campaign, at least not specifically. Politico is reporting that the end of the county recount puts him down 242 more votes. I don’t see how that will help.

If liberals ran the clock out, I smell a law suit coming their way.

    Judging by the 12 thumbs down on my comment, I think a liberal nerve has been rightfully struck.

    Sue the crap out of the Liberal Vote Counters that ran the clock out on this sham of a recount.

    Better yet, also file criminal complaints against each and every one of them.

It’s not over until we say it’s over!

If this bogus glitch stops the recount, then we really are becoming Venezuela. Pretty sad day in America

Allen West For President!

Who’s With Col West?

So. When the deadline for casting early voting ballots passed at 7pm on Sat. Nov. 3rd, the lawyers for the Democrat Party of Florida, filed a lawsuit against Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach county election supervisors claiming voter suppression. They then showed up at county supervisors offices with busloads of angry, boisterous “voters” (who had obviously been too lazy or unmotivated to comply with the early voting schedule, standard 96 hours but condensed to 8 day period) demanding they be allowed to vote in violation of the state rules.

Untold numbers of these rabble-rousers were handed absentee ballots and allowed to fill them in and submit them on the spot to the Miami Dade supervisor, Penelope Townsley on Nov. 4th and 5th, days specifically excluded from the official days for voting in Miami Dade county. All done without the approval of the mayor, who like Ms. Townsley cowered and crumbled under the threat of Florida DNC lawyers.

Democrats received emails and robocalls alerting them to this “expanded voting schedule”. Attorneys and registered voters for the Republican party were excluded from these notifications.

My vote, cast after standing in line in high heel for over three hours in the Florida sun during the official early voting period was thereby diluted and negated because two sets of rules were put into play, favoring one political party over another.

How can I sue?

    Chicklet in reply to DuraMater. | November 18, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    I don’t think the busloads of voters were lazy or disinterested. They probably voted already and are thrilled right now they got two votes.

    Or, the dem lawyers could have told them not to vote (they do what they’re told, more free stuff depends on it) so they could march down in view of the cameras and violate the law with judicial approval.

    I think they really do plan this stuff in advance, down to the last detail and if we are ever to win an election again we need to start working together to do the same. I am sick and tired of seeing my rights stomped on!

      DuraMater in reply to Chicklet. | November 18, 2012 at 2:41 pm

      “Planned”, that had occurred to me as well. Polywood comes to Florida. Well actually that’s not really new here.

      You know, I’ve never been gripped by a litigious nature, but realizing now how those of us who value and live by a code of honor are being more and more aggrieved by the current system, I am ready to rattle some cages. Col. West’s travails in St. Lucie are shared by us all.

      O won Florida by only ~84k votes and I can imagine that there were perhaps >100k illegal votes cast for him in Dade and Broward counties alone.

      I wish all concerned citizens in all swing states where irregularities have been observed or suspected would rattle the cages of their respective sec. of state NOT to certify votes and seat electors until ALL suspicions are put to rest. I think we actually have until first week of upset the apple cart.

      Maybe I should put on my stilettos and start warming up my kicking leg.

I love watching feral liberals doing thumbs down on comments.

It seriously “Makes My Day!” #happyface

    liesel409 in reply to VotingFemale. | November 18, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    Me too! And I agree with those posting on Breitbart about how pathetic and miserable they must be to feel a need to do things like this. Some of the trolls there are being called out big time, to the effect of: “Hey, you won, why are you so unhappy?” lol They are just miserable, unhappy people who just want to lash out, that’s why they troll sites who dare to disagree with their warped worldview. I suspect their terrified of any truth sneaking in to their consciousness and are trying to stifle opposing views through trolling. How pathetic!!

      liesel409 in reply to liesel409. | November 18, 2012 at 2:05 pm

      Correction: “they’re terrified”

      PS – Repeating “unhappy” “pathetic” and “miserable” was deliberate and imo can’t be stressed enough. ☺

    I gave you one just to make your day 🙂 🙂
    hope it helps 🙂
    I too hope West pulls it out, he was (IMO) setup by GOP.

    and I hate gerrymandering. how could anyone like it?

Deadlines and recounts only matter IF a Democrat win is remotely possible. Since a Democrat currently has the appearance of a win no recount is necessary, we should give the process the benefit of the doubt and stop making trouble as this only divides the public. /Sarcasm/

West is going to fight these bastards to the bitter end and he’s going to prevail. He’s no Norm Coleman.

    Browndog in reply to raven. | November 18, 2012 at 1:35 pm

    A lot, and I mean a lot, of resources were lent to Coleman by the GOP to fight the blatant fraud, and he still lost-

    West has virtually no support from the GOP, and is resorting to volunteers.

This is not about Allen West, but about the integrity of the American voting system.

One I am increasingly finding inferior to purple fingers..

One the GOP establishment is selling us out, by pretending it (systemic voter fraud) doesn’t exist.

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One advantage of one day voting is the purple finger trick. Early voting and Motor-Voter Registration seem to invite fraud, which could be why they were put into place.

There is a good article floating around the web to equate the precincts with zero Romney votes to Jonestown and Kool-Aid drinking. Our President is selling snake oil and his people are sucking it down.

West seems to have more guts than the rest of the GOP.

Whats the deal about that one community (see the recent tweets} 7 registered voters managed to cast 900 votes the other way?

I am more demoralized over the GOP’s silence on voter fraud than anything else.

I live outside Philly and have witnessed it year after year. After this year’s debacle with the Republican poll watchers physically thrown out of the voting places (and not returned until 3+ hours later by court order) and then coincidentally some of these same districts pulling in 99% for Obama by 99%, the GOP is as useless as ever. In total, 57 precincts/wards had zero votes for Romney. What are the odds? I heard the Republican Secretary of State on the radio Thursday about the subject and she said that elections are largely county-run & self-policed. She said she was sure that if Philadelphia had a problem, they would take care of it. The problem has spread to my county; we had a number of 99% Obama-voting wards/precincts as well.

As someone said recently, voter ID & voter fraud aren’t the same thing. There was an article in the Philly Inquirer a few days after the election where they tried to track down some registered Republicans (from the rolls) and they were nowhere to be found. After I remarked on the problem with the voter rolls on the article in the comments section, the article was altered (*straightens tin-foil hat). Wish I were kidding. My mother’s next door neighbor called our county a few years back after her husband died, asking to have him removed from the voting rolls. They told her, no need to do this – that he’d automatically be removed after he didn’t vote for a certain number of years. Yeah, sure.

Finally, I saw an article in a Tampa paper before the election that said a majority of “sporadic” early voters in Florida were going for Obama. The article went on to say that voters who hadn’t voted in more than 3 presidential elections in Florida were voting heavily for Obama (90%?). Now why would these voters, who didn’t even vote for Ozero in 2008, who hadn’t even voted in at least 12 years suddenly have the urge to vote and vote EARLY for Obama? Could it possibly be, that similar to the O’Keefe/Moran scam, that someone knew or verified through long outdated voter rolls that these people no longer lived there/were dead and wouldn’t be voting?

Sorry for the long rant but it just seems to me if the integrity of the vote isn’t protected, there isn’t a point to any of the rest of it. And I certainly don’t see the GOP doing anything to address this.

    Chicklet in reply to jeannebodine. | November 18, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    So what to do about it? Considering how little my vote counts here in NY, I am going to move to Florida soon.

    It’s certainly good for the wallet, and if we add a few dozen (or hundreds or thousands) of votes maybe we can balance out this nasty fraud.

    In the meantime, why whine about the GOP when you can do something. Become a precinct captain, vote out your local chairman, go to the convention, let’s act together to push these guys out of the jobs they are not doing that well.

      Browndog in reply to Chicklet. | November 18, 2012 at 3:56 pm

      Noble, indeed.

      The “problem” is not what it appears you think it is, and cannot be remedied as you say it can.

      “51/49″….vote flipping.

      Can you say…..SOFTWARE?

[…] Florida, where Rep. Allen West is waging a battle to get a recount in St. Lucie county: Just as background, one precinct has 7 voters registered and yet recorded […]

Politico is reporting that at the END of the recount in St. Luci Listening to the Republicans explain their losses in the election has to be excruciating to anyone who cares about country.

Try to dismiss it, but it is insulting, blind, idiotic, misplaced, pathetic, but ultimately damaging to the body politic because so wrong. I wish I could tune it out.

David Frum tells Joe Scarborough that the conservative entertainment complex has been lying to its consumers for the last four years, and Scarborough thinks he means the last three weeks. Fox News has a headline that promises to revealed five ways the media tipped the election for Obama. The takers want “things” and “stuff” O’Reilly explains, I don’t know what woman tells an NPR show that people voted to perpetuate the Culture of Dependence. Hurricane Sandy. Chris Christie. Lying Obama. Smears last summer. Kathleen Parker says it was the stooges who challenged Romney. The right wing blogs blame the Republican Elite for foisting this candidate on them in the most open primary season Republicans have had since Reagan defeated Bush. It was minority revenge for standing firm on immigration. The noise drowned out Romney’s message in an age when we’re all drowning in the messages.

Romney’s message was heard distinctly. He will say whatever you want to hear, abortion/not abortion, lower taxes/fiscal discipline, small government/increased defense, strict immigration/self-deportation, bomb Iran/tighten sanctions to make the ayatollahs bomb themselves.

Generally, I’m willing to let people think what they want, but I vote liberal, I vote education, I vote reproductive rights, I vote marriage equality, I vote social services, I pay my taxes, I want garbage pick up, police, safe building codes, FEMA, Americans with Disabilities Act, Family Medical Leave Act, I’ve got great health care and think there should be both at least a floor of basic health care, and outreach to teach people how to use preventive health care, pre-natal care, parenting classes with freebies like disposable diapers, safe toys, literacy programs. Because those are moral, cheaper than prisons, and better for everybody. If Stand Your Ground laws diminished crime, I might be persuaded to support those, but they seem to feed into and nurture increased violence, so I’m glad we don’t have them in my swing state.

Because they think they have to stand firm, Obama has to play hardball with Republicans. They don’t accept compromise, even with the fate of the country and the world in the balance, as we saw with the debt ceiling negotiations. I don’t care who dropped it on the Grand Bargain, Obama or Boehner, the basic negotiations imperiled the entire world on a vote that was procedural for money Congress had already authorized.

Obama has to appoint federal judges.

Obama has to squeeze every drop he can out of the Pentagon that doesn’t imperil troops, but unnecessary weapons programs be damned in every district that bleeds the rest of the economy.

    zazz in reply to zazz. | November 18, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    Help! I was copying and pasting from different websites, and I meant to copy the number Allen West was behind AFTER the recount in St. Lucie County (down 242), but ended up pasting a comment from a completely different website here. How do I delete this post? It has nothing to do with the West recount, and I can’t even find the website I was copying it from!

      BannedbytheGuardian in reply to zazz. | November 18, 2012 at 6:51 pm

      Why not read that stuff and then post your thoughts only ?

        I intended to write a two line update, that Politico was reporting Allen West DOWN 242 AFTER St. Lucie County’s late recount. Since I was using my phone, when I checked the spelling of St. Lucie County, i tried to put the cursor where I had left off, but pasted a long comment I copped from a coherent blog Wii email to my mother. When I tried to delete the comment that got pasted there, I hit post. I can’t figure out how to delete someone else’s comment to a different blog I copied to email my mother, but that now appears here under my name when all I wanted to do was check the spelling of St. Lucie County. That’s why said Help! It is just as stupid as it sounds. But I’d like to delete the post since it doesn’t represent what I was trying to say at all.

[…] Insurrection: Allen West St. Lucie County recount results )(Update – Board misses deadline) UPDATE 5:40 p.m. — Various news reports confirm that the partial recount (which was only of […]

Allen West!

[…] This is what happens when Republicans, Conservatives, and Christians stay home on election day. The closer the vote totals are the more funny business occurs from the other side. If people had shown up to vote or not wasted their vote on a Libertarian alternative Congressman Allen West would be headed back to Congress. As it stands now, St. Lucie County surprisingly misses the deadline to get recounted votes in and this will help the Democrat who barely beat West in the vote total. For updates on this check Legal Insurrection. […]

Just a thought. What are the rules if BOTH Allen West and Patrick Murphy show up to be seated in Congress in January? From my knowledge, the House leadership (lead by the majority party) can decide, with or without an investigation or hearings, who ultimately will be seated.

Allen West is a man of honor, so if, after contesting it and forcing a full recount of EVERY ballot, he still loses, I believe then he’ll concede – and do so honorably. However, if Allen West wins, we already know that Patrick Murphy and the Florida Democrats will contest it, which of course means he’ll demand to be seated in Congress. Which is when the House Republican leadership can ultimately decide the outcome.

Am I correct or incorrect in this?

    I think you are correct, but if he contests it, and the other counties where he has not previously demanded a recount, who certified their numbers DON’T agree to recount, are you saying that the GOP leadership soups not seat the person whom Florida certified because a complete recount of all the votes was not conducted? Because the result of St. Lucie County’s recount put him down another 242 votes in their late, but complete recount. This is the recount he insisted on, and although it was late, they did finish it, and he lost votes. If he goes to court to have additional counties recounted, I’m not sure he’ll get them to. The St. Lucie County recount was supposed to address what he saw as the irregularities. They did finish the complete recount of that county, late, but complete.

    My initial response was incorrect. The was a complete recount of the EARLY voting, not the whole county. But it was what the West campaign sought.

How can a recount that includes the altered votes possibly be allowed by the courts? I’m not surprised that he lost ground, if the original count didn’t include these altered ballots and the new count did!

    I’m not sure what altered votes you’re referring to, but West had observers there and he got the recount he requested. Unlike when Gore wanted a recount of heavily DEMOCRATIC areas back in 2000, West requested a recount, not of the more heavily Republican area, but the more Democratic county. As I understand it, West wanted a recount there because of irregularities, but however many times they recount St. Lucie County, Murphy would be more likely to pick up mused votes since it’s got something like over 20,000 more registered Democrats. Independents there are probably more likely to vote Democratic.

      Milhouse in reply to zazz. | November 21, 2012 at 12:03 pm

      I’m talking about the damaged ballots that were copied onto fresh ones, while R observers were physically prevented from seeing what the copyists were writing. That’s blatant fraud; why would they break the law so flagrantly unless they had something to hide, i.e. that they were manufacturing votes for Murphy? All those votes should have been thrown out.

I don’t see recounts as the way to win elections in America. You win by having decisive, beyond the possibility of error our fraud, margins. Right now, it looks, whether true our not, like Murphy did, and the same happened to Norm Coleman. Allen West may be a hero here, but he worked hard to alienate a good portion of his constituents with his fiery rhetoric. That’s fine if you don’t have a constituency that can swing. That’s not this concurrency. That’s really the bottom line in American politics. Say what is the truth, but represent your constituents. Murphy likely will not win over West’s most ardent supporters, but he can win over Republicans, independents, moderates of all stripes I’d he represents them. He can be true to his vision, but he still has to be respectful. If he’s not, he’ll be a one term congressman.