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Romney-Ryan 2012

Romney-Ryan 2012

It’s official, it’s going to be Paul Ryan.

The Romney Veep App made the announcement earlier this morning, and every news source is reporting it. The decision was made on August 1.

The left already is going crazy, but that would have happened regardless of who the Veep nominee was; only the details of the outrage would have differed.

This was a bold choice, far more bold than I expected. My first reaction when I heard the news was one of deep ambivalence, drawn naturally from knowing how the Obama campaign and media would distort Ryan and his budget proposals.

The nation now is faced with a stark choice, economic freedom and solvency or creeping socialism. It’s a choice we are not often willing to put to the electorate in such stark contrasts, but it was the choice long before Ryan was selected.

Ryan puts the national debt front and center in the election, on par with or maybe even ahead of jobs. This is a winner of an issue, it’s what motivated people in 2010, and it will cause huge turnout for Romney-Ryan.  Fear not.

Ryan will now have a national platform like never before to eviscerate Obamanomics and Obamacare (h/t Ace):

[Note: Sometimes a typo is just a typo.]

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Mindless Democratic meme of the day: Paul Ryan is a zombie-eyed granny-starver.

and it will cause huge turnout for Romney-Rubio.

That may be a typo there…

This will make the progs and socialists crazy. Ryan needs to speak in plain, simple, vanilla terms. Now is the time for Romney-Ryan to come out with a 5 point or less plan. More than 5 points and the eyes of the masses will glaze over. And give the plan a snappy name.

    WarEagle82 in reply to Towson Lawyer. | August 11, 2012 at 8:31 am

    This will make the progs and socialists crazy.

    They have been around the bend for decades. This choice may certainly agitate them but they are already well beyond “crazy.”

    jdkchem in reply to Towson Lawyer. | August 11, 2012 at 9:25 am

    Edsel was a snappy name. Snappy names are for gubment turds and people who bitterly cling to their pet rocks. Speak in plain English, period. Save the teleprompter false oratory and fairy dust for juggy jebus.

    The only acronym that is of any value is FUBAR. All others are worthless crap.

    punfundit in reply to Towson Lawyer. | August 11, 2012 at 9:35 am

    Rebuild America

    JackRussellTerrierist in reply to Towson Lawyer. | August 11, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    Ryan will re-focus the message on the economy – debt and its damage, high taxes and their damage, unemployment and it’s damage, over-regulation and its damage.

    I’m surprised Romney had it in him to make such a strong statement.

“and it will cause a huge turnout for Romney-Rubio”

Professor, your slip is showing…

I thought the best candidates, everything considered, were Rubio and Ryan. Each had advantages and disadvantages, but Ryan is certainly keeping with Romney’s character. Ryan is more experienced and obviously better equipped to take over as President. He is a good campaigner, even though probably not as good as Rubio. It looks like Romney is eager to join the debate, no matter how down and dirty it might be, about spending, entitlements, deficit, spending, and debt. For Romney, it is a bold choice indeed.

Let the games begin.

    JackRussellTerrierist in reply to JayDick. | August 11, 2012 at 2:55 pm

    I have to wonder if Gov. Walker’s successes in WI had something to do with the decision.

    I think a nuts & bolts guy like Ryan with ideas but who also has charm was a very good choice. Normally someone from the House would not be a good choice, but that’s only because of name recognition. Ryan was already center stage, thanks to owebastard and the media. Someone should point this out to them when they hand over the keys to the ‘pubs come January.

Pitbull (no, the other one) | August 11, 2012 at 8:39 am

Heh. An understandable Freudian slip…

[…] Jacobson has a funny little Freudian slip: The left already is going crazy, but that would have happened regardless of who the Veep nominee […]

Good choice. Now Ryan, set aside the wonkishness and just use simple language. Once again, I’ll be voting for the VP and not the one at the top of the ticket and hope many more will do the same. It’s time to take back the reins.

Excellent choice. Hopefully, it begins the steady march towards a November victory. Today, I’ll have a toast or two. The champagne will have to wait awhile longer.

    JackRussellTerrierist in reply to ALman. | August 11, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    Speaking strictly aesthetically, Ryan is a good choice also because he has the charisma, (not fake like Romney and owebastard), boyish looks and charm, and the pathos of his sincerity to carry him through impromptu and unscripted.

    This is the first thing Romney has done to get my favorable attention.

Agree with Dr. Krauthammer that the Dems’ supposed glee at this pick echoes their glee at going against Reagan in 1980, and they are vastly underestimating Ryan.

Had to chuckle last night when on MSNBC Andrea Mitchell was asked to comment on the coming Biden/Ryan debate and she said both are smart and both are very good verbally.

Really?? Both?? Joe Biden is good verbally??

Maybe if you like gaffes and bloopers.

    heimdall in reply to LukeHandCool. | August 11, 2012 at 9:10 am

    Double the pride twice the fall. Biden will be CREAMED. Its too bad Ryan won’t get a rematch against Obama, since the last few times when he debated him he OWNED HIM!

      WarEagle82 in reply to heimdall. | August 11, 2012 at 10:34 am

      …he OWNED HIM!

      I predict that this will not be the Romney-Ryan official campaign slogan.

      But Obama and Friends will claim it is…

      Cassandra Lite in reply to heimdall. | August 11, 2012 at 10:38 am

      Yes, Ryan owned him…for people who were paying attention. For the rest of the people, i.e. the great majority, what they’ll be told is that it’s white v black; people not like us against people who feel for us; the 1950s v the future, etc.

      The only downside of this pick is that we now have two guys with no stomach for actually punching back. But at least now we have one guy able to cite facts and logic.

        No appetite for punching back? Are you kidding? Neither man throws haymakers, but both are effective punchers. The difference is, they smile while they watch you fall. Just ask Newt Gingrich.

          Cassandra Lite in reply to JayDick. | August 11, 2012 at 11:16 am

          All week long Romney was essentially accused of being a murderer and a tax cheat, but showed about as much outrage as Dukakis when asked about his wife’s theoretical rape.

          There was no, “Mr. President, have you no shame or decency?” moment that I, and maybe many others, would have liked to see. Maybe Romney’s waiting for Obama to punch himself like, like Ali-Foreman.

      JackRussellTerrierist in reply to heimdall. | August 11, 2012 at 3:10 pm

      Bloodbath. 🙂

    ThomasD in reply to LukeHandCool. | August 11, 2012 at 10:36 am

    My fearless prediction.

    The single one hour Veep debate will consist of 55 minutes of foreign policy and five minutes on gay marriage.

    The fisc? What fisc?

      JackRussellTerrierist in reply to ThomasD. | August 11, 2012 at 3:12 pm

      I don’t see Ryan standing for that. He will bulldoze his agenda into the mix, even if he has to fight it out with the media weinies a la Newt.

Mitt really surprised me with this pick. Awesome job! I have been driving my liberal friends crazy all morning on Facebook showing the ad that has us throwing grandma from the cliff. I have been snarky as hell with them and the New Tone™ they purport to support. Oh this is fun!!! This will make them froth even more so than before and backfire.

Mitt Romney is showing more bold colors (thanks Reagan) than I EVER gave him credit for. Now I hope he uses his momentum and fires that damn deathstar on team Obama. Ask poor Newt as to what happened next. Bye bye Obama!

    JackRussellTerrierist in reply to heimdall. | August 11, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    Couldn’t agree more about mittens finally growing a pair.

    As to the rest, the left ALWAYS wants a “new tone” when they’re about get hammered.

A lot of Conservatives will vote for Ryan instead of Romney. Ryan’s got an over the years balance the budget plan. I don’t think he’s an advocate of SRR– sudden and relentless reform.

What I do like about him is that he tooke apart Obama in a meeting the way Palin took Obama apart at the 2008 Convention. Obama hates the two of them with a passion.

    WarEagle82 in reply to Juba Doobai!. | August 11, 2012 at 10:37 am

    But doesn’t this shout about the problems with the GOP? People know the VEEP slot is essentially meaningless in many ways. The GOP hasn’t been fired up about the top slot in years and all people have to look forward to is ‘who gets the warm bucket’ nod on the ticket.

    Why can’t we just nominate the person we actually want to vote for instead of attaching them to a dead weight at the top of the ticket?

      Why… that’s CRAZY talk! You’re talking common sense again. Stop it!

      punfundit in reply to WarEagle82. | August 12, 2012 at 9:07 am

      Because the base has not yet taken the GOP Establishment out of power yet. That’s as big a fight as demolishing the left’s power structures. One might argue that the GOP Establishment is a leftist power structure, but that’s skirting pretty damned close to kook theory.

      But… Progressives ran the Republican Party at various times. It was Progressive-led Republican Congresses that passed the Sixteenth and Seventeenth Amendments.

      Etc.

    JackRussellTerrierist in reply to Juba Doobai!. | August 11, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    Ryan’s fiscal acumen and plans is a big signal from Romney to business that he’s on their side through establishing a stable fiscal environment for investment and GROWTH, which is what we need above all else.

    This should bring in even more campaign $ from big donors.

    I don’t know of anybody, except perhaps Newt, who can verbally demonstrate the nexus between lower taxes, rational regulations and high employment as well as Ryan – not since Reagan passed, although John Kasich is close, too.

Look at Debbie’s body language (especially the facial expressions)as Paul Ryan gets under her skin:

Paul Ryan debates Debbie Wasserman Schultz on Social Security Reform

Obama is a bully. He attacks people when they can’t fight back, e.g., Supreme Court Justices, Paul Ryan. Ryan’s calm demeanor and systematic disassembling of Obama’s lies and demagoguery will doubtless get under Obama’s very very thin skin. Great pick of a great picador.

MaggotAtBroadAndWall | August 11, 2012 at 9:16 am

Dr. K just nailed it on Fox. The Democrat fear mongering and demagoguery about Medicare will start immediately. Romney and Ryan need to win the messaging war on their plans for Medicare in the next week. They need to make it absolutely clear and unambiguous that nobody 55 or older will see any changes to Medicare under the R&R plan. The goal is to save it our kids and grandkids.

My guess is whoever gets out in front and defines that issue first will win in November, and it’s probably going to be decided even before the convention.

    You are correct, but over time, Ryan’s Medicare proposal will appeal to seniors. I am on Medicare and I hate it. If I had alternatives like Ryan is proposing, I would very seriously consider them. The only problem with his proposal is that it will not be available to those already on Medicare. Inasmuch as standard Medicare is an option, I say why not?

      creeper in reply to JayDick. | August 11, 2012 at 11:33 am

      I’m on Medicare, too, and I love it. Thanks to all who recommended the Medicare Advantage program I have coverage that is better than my previous private coverage with a Fortune 500 company.

      Of course, Barry-O has been desperately trying to dismantle Medicare Advantage. Can’t have these old folks living too long, you know.

        JayDick in reply to creeper. | August 11, 2012 at 12:16 pm

        How many times have you tried to see a doctor but were unable to because he/she is not accepting new Medicare patients? That has happened to me a lot and I don’t like it. Even when I was willing to pay the whole bill myself, I was told they couldn’t do it because they had some Medicare patients and couldn’t allow anyone with Medicare to pay their own bill. What a FUBAR’d program.

        And, if Obamacare goes fully into effect, you can kiss your Medicare Advantage goodbye.

          creeper in reply to JayDick. | August 11, 2012 at 4:03 pm

          Not once…yet. In fact, I switched doctors last year, just after I went on Medicare, without a hitch. But this is Iowa and there are still doctors in this state who make house calls, albeit no longer by horse and buggy.

          You’re right about them taking away the Medicare Advantage plan. They’d have done it by now if Reps hadn’t blocked them.

          And I’m glad I’m already a patient at Mayo. Without that, I’d never be accepted there as a new patient.

          Need to study Ryan’s plan more closely. I wouldn’t oppose a change in medical plans if the coverage were decent and didn’t cost a fortune.

    JackRussellTerrierist in reply to MaggotAtBroadAndWall. | August 11, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    That’s right. Ryan needs to get on every Sunday show tomorrow and every news show he can next week to pre-empt the left’s message.

    Look for the media to try to pull the same crap on him that they tried on Palin, like asking him who the president of Bratislava is and so on.

I’d like to say, as a practicing Catholic, YEAH!

Best pick of Romney’s possible candidates.

Will venture to the dark side immediately following the speech to see what Axlerod came up with for his pre-planned “If it’s Ryan….” opening salvo.

Surely it’s more imaginative than throwing granny off a cliff-

will report back…..

    Browndog in reply to Browndog. | August 11, 2012 at 9:50 am

    UPDATE: Bush!

    (Ryan voted for Bush policies that drove us into the ditch)

    Browndog in reply to Browndog. | August 11, 2012 at 9:57 am

    Wolf Blitzer brings in Gingrich to slam Ryan on cutting Medi-care, and that whole “right wing social engineering” thingy.

    (Newt’s not cooperating)

    Predictable.

2nd Ammendment Mother | August 11, 2012 at 9:24 am

Romney’s VeepStakes was brilliantly handled. By keeping a large pool of very strong possibilities, he showed the Country the depth of the talent pool he’ll be able to work with when elected. Ryan was the absolute best choice for a serious election about the economy.

Henry Hawkins | August 11, 2012 at 9:28 am

Excellent!

What’s passed in the campaign so far has been small ball ankle-biting and will soon be forgotten as the true campaign now ramps up. The three points of deflection, in reverse order, are the debates, the convention, and the VP pick. I’d have been equally happy with Rubio, but Ryan is a great pick. Romney hits a homer with this pick and my confidence edges up accordingly.

Ignore concerns Ryan will be demogogued – they’d maul the VP pick if it was Mother Teresa.

My mission today – find someone from Wisconsin and give them a great big thank you hug for Scott Walker and Paul Ryan.

    alan markus in reply to Henry Hawkins. | August 11, 2012 at 9:39 am

    I’m from Wisconsin, but no man-hugs for me please. That being said, I boldly predict that Wisconsin is now “in play” for 10 electoral votes. In 2008, Ryan got reelected in his Congressional district at 64% whereas Obama got 54% – that was a lot of crossover voting. We saw Governor Scott Walker survive his recall and won by a higher margin than his original election.

    Exciting times to be in Wisconsin politics, that’s for sure! I suspect there will be big uptick in Republican voter motivation, and Paul Ryan’s selection as VP will further demoralize our Democratic voters.

      JackRussellTerrierist in reply to alan markus. | August 11, 2012 at 3:47 pm

      The Ryan pick also signals business that a friendlier climate is coming their way. I think that will translate to big campaign donations.

      I agree that the Ryan pick puts WI in play, and possibly MI, too. As i speculated upthread, I wonder if Scott Walker’s success in WI tipped the choice in Ryan’s favor. I also predict a lower win percentage for owebastard in IL, with nearly every non-Chicagoite non-black voting against owebama.

      Scott Walker’s successes there have become a beacon of hope to the economically depressed upper midwest. I think some are finally seeing that the ‘rats and their unions are NOT the answer. When government spending is controlled and taxes are lowered and funds are better managed, businesses move in, and that means jobs, and that means bills are paid, homes are not foreclosed, ordinary goods and services become affordable to the average person again, and people have some breathing room.

An EXCELLENT choice. Ryan has a real pair, as demonstrated in his taking on the issue of Federal commitments, top to bottom.

I think he brings in some fire, too, and an ability to know where to go with the messaging. He does seem to get the ideals part.

A perfect TEA Party office-holder? No, but very acceptable. Someone Americans can be enthused about supporting.

If they had any I would say it was time to grab the libtards by the balls. I’ll have to settle for broken teeth and bloody noses. These pansies need to be beaten so badly that stock in depends quadruples.

you want to talk about hope and change ….O.K. lets do it

LA Times: “Choices could portend a fierce debate over the size of government”

Two things…

1. Gorsh, ya thank…?!?

2. And about time we had that out

Ryan is nailing the economy and Obama’s connection to it.

Henry Hawkins | August 11, 2012 at 9:43 am

I went over to Daily Beast and HuffPo to check the reactions of liberals who can read. Oh man, lol. One common theme at both was that Romney’s pick of Ryan was only to divert attention from the ‘release your taxes’ thing. Saw only a few cogent comments, to the effect that this helps Romney unite the GOP (mods and TP-ers), which it does. They are oblivious to the fact that it is Obama who best unites his opposition.

    That couldn’t have taken long. Avoiding the tax return issue? Those humanoids have demonstrated that without big government they are incapable of breathing on their own. Ironically these are the same shitbirds who whine about your “carbon footprint”.

oh Lord ….from God not man….my leg is quivering

Attack: White Male

I’m already seeing it on the internet. Counter it with a picture of a plain white envelope and write White Mail using the same font and color as whatever you see in the attack. A picture of Joe Biden, call it Bite Me. A picture of Paul Ryan, call it Right Male. A picture of Obama, call it Lame Duck. And so forth.

Great speech by Ryan, perfect for the moment. Simple, direct, inspiring.

This was the guy I wanted – a brilliant pick. He’s extremely bright, well-spoken, likable, very capable…he’ll make Slow Joe Biden look like a bumbling idiot (which should be a stretch from now BTW)

Love the way this was handled too. Romney is such a shrewd manager.

Here come the onslaught of negative ads/press…..

    PhillyGuy in reply to PhillyGuy. | August 11, 2012 at 9:55 am

    “should NOT be a stretch” is the phrase I wanted to type.

    Ragspierre in reply to PhillyGuy. | August 11, 2012 at 10:17 am

    Something else this shows us about Romney as a person…

    Ryan is a VERY smart guy, and something of a Conservative rock star.

    Romney has the confidence to bring him on the ticket. And Romney has to know that Ryan will be a BIG, ACTIVE presence in the campaign and the administration.

    This says worlds to me about Romney as opposed to Obama.

      It’s objectively a good choice in the best senses of the word. But what now? I have concerns and they are solid and historically based. Will Romney “let Ryan be Ryan”? Will the GOP attempt to over-manage and stifle Ryan as McCain did Palin? The modern GOP has proved constitutionally incapable of not second-guessing its rare “boldness.” Does Romney really believe he’ll get a “double-digit bounce” from this? (A stupid thing to say in any case, and he won’t.) Does he realize the full-scale media assault and war coming his way — I mean, like nothing seen on this planet? How will Romney and GOP react to this — by hemming in Ryan and trying to play nice, by mediating his positions, by surrounding him with hacks, flacks and “media consultants.”

      Romney-Ryan are heading into a sh*tstorm unseen in American history. Do they get it — really get it?

        Ragspierre in reply to raven. | August 11, 2012 at 11:33 am

        I think it worth remembering all the differences between Ryan and Palin, Romney and McAnus.

        I also think it worth remembering that Ryan waxed Obama’s butt during the phoney “Health Care Summit”.

        Here you have two guys who can do math, arrayed against two of the demonstrably most clueless people ever to hold their respective offices.

        I like the contrast. I also like that the Collective is already shaping the meme that this election is about two conflicting Americas…the one of unlimited Federal power against the one defined by the Constitution. They are saying it in terms of the size of government, and that will do.

        That takes Dr. K’s concern off the table, since the Romney campaign has the choice made for them. This will be about ideals. The competence thing will be obvious and collateral.

      JackRussellTerrierist in reply to Ragspierre. | August 11, 2012 at 3:56 pm

      That’s because Romney is a pragmatist, having had to run businesses, hire effective people, turn a profit, manage costs and so forth for decades as opposed to owebastard, who has never run anything except his commie mouth and an unruly gaggle of leftist loudmouth whiners. Romney still leaves me cold and I don’t trust him, but he finally did something that caught my favorable attention.

Does this mean Romney’s polling is showing heavy Hispanic states (mainly FL)will be easier to win than OH and VA?

But honestly, if we can get 2 terms out of Romney and then one or two from Ryan….

….Our country might actually be in (somewhat) decent fiscal shape a decade from now.

    punfundit in reply to Jay Jones. | August 11, 2012 at 10:14 am

    Don’t forget the Congress!

    JayDick in reply to Jay Jones. | August 11, 2012 at 11:16 am

    Two terms for Romney, then two for Ryan, then two for Jindal, then two for Rubio, then two for Walker, then two fro Cruz, then two for….. Well, you get the idea.

    JackRussellTerrierist in reply to Jay Jones. | August 11, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    i think Romney gets FL if Rubio comes out real strong for him, and I believe he will.

    But they have to stay focused and not let the media make this about immigration.

    When the media hammers about immigration, they all need to reply broadly that a strong economy floats all boats, thereby turning the subject back to the economy and then start blathering about jobs, investment, taxes, and the nexus between the three.

One of the bleats from the Left so far is that Romney’s pick of Ryan is an effort to “solidify his standing with the Republican base”.

As if there is something wrong with that, which there is, according to the Left and the MSM (BIRM), since it means that now Romney “can’t move to the center” — that is, be more like them.

Well hell yeah Romney is going to solidify the Republican base. Newsflash, Andrea Mitchell: Romney is the REPUBLICAN nominee*. Of course he’s going to solidify his base; he has to in order to win.

Ryan solidifies: the Tea Party is happy, main street conservatives are happy, conservative insiders are (mostly) happy, and the conservative thinkers are happy. If the election is going to be about closet socialism versus main street America, Ryan is the VP pick to have.

The next step is to show the independents, the low-information voters, and the supposedly undecideds (I’m channeling Ace here) that this is a great choice and that Romney-Ryan is the right ticket. The Dems and the MSM (BIRM) will try to castigate both men as the ones who would evict seniors from their homes. My hope is that the Romney team understands this and comes out fighting — the next week will indeed matter.

* even if sometimes he doesn’t act like it.

    JackRussellTerrierist in reply to stevewhitemd. | August 11, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    one of the big reasons why Ryan was such a good choice is because he is a fiscal conservative, which is the most important thing to the TP. He generally stays off social issues, which is going to give him wide appeal.

    The slimestream media will try to tilt him off his axis and get him on record about social issues. He should avoid letting them succeed in changing the subject. Evading is much better than throwing them the raw meat of a definitive answer.

    Message to VP candidate Ryan: Stay off the social issues!!! Don’t let them drag you down into their muck! tell them over and over when they ask this crap, “The most important issue Americans are facing is this poor economy. We need jobs through growth and investment. That’s where the focus should be and that is where Mitt’s and my focus is.” End of answer. If they ask again, re-state the same thing.

crypticenigma | August 11, 2012 at 10:17 am

Smart choice with Ryan he knows more about the budget and fiscal nightmares this country is looking at than anyone in DC or the talking heads on various networks. As a side note if pushed on his “lack” of foreign policy/national security experience all Ryan has to say to deflect that guttercrap is whats more of a national secutiy concern than America going broke with craddle to grave nannystate aka Europe, Obama’s crony capitalism for bundlers, etc.

The Circus Begins..

“Liberals point out that Paul Ryan is a white guy
Posted at 12:08 am on August 11, 2012 by Twitchy Staff”

..and this is just a start. Race Card much, Lefties?

Wonder if Biden will have new hair plugs inserted prior to debate?

OH obama, http://www.ehow.com/how_4450016_dye-black-hair.html

Give ’em hell dudes!

One question: Who’s set to replace Ryan on the budget committee?

I’m not expecting another Ryan, as nice at that would be, but how deep is the GOP bench in this regard?

    Henry Hawkins in reply to Jay Jones. | August 11, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    House Budget Committee Vice Chairman is Scott Garret (R) of New Jersey. Ho-hum record since 2003. Libertarian. After that, twenty majority members, none of which stand out (to me anyway).

Midwest Rhino | August 11, 2012 at 10:29 am

They could redo that commercial where Ryan pushes grandma off the cliff, but at the end they pull the mask off and it is Obama, smugly laughing. Then they state (bold print and voice) that “Obama took a half trillion from Medicare to help with Obamacare, and Obama breaks Medicare in 12 years”.

Then show Romney and/or Ryan carrying grandma back up the hill (past Obama with angry face). (bold print and voice) “No one over 55 faces any changes”, and he actually has a plan to save Medicare or other plans for the younger generations. Obama plans trillion a year deficits forever. Obama plan is for failure, but he borrows and lies, to get past the election. Romney/Ryan save grandma, AND the future from the debt cliff.

    What a frackin’ brilliant concept!!! You need to get this idea to the romney campaign asap!!!

    Outstanding!!! I would suggest one change, however. I’m well over 55, have Medicare, and would love to have the alternatives Ryan’s plan contains. Inasmuch as Medicare and Ryan’s premium support plans are alternatives, why couldn’t the whole thing go into effect for everyone right away?

      JackRussellTerrierist in reply to JayDick. | August 11, 2012 at 4:26 pm

      Because it is ingrained in the mind of the sheeple. The old adage that “Age brings wisdom” really isn’t true. There are a lot of really stupid, timid, fearful seniors in this country. Many are no smarter now than they were at 40. Further, many are very gullible and easily fear-mongered. They have been programmed to demand this entitlement and believe they have no other options. Indeed, some have no other options at all. But the biggest reason of all is the knee-jerk “I paid into it and I WANT it!! It’s mine!!” even thoough what will be paid out for them in benefits is 30-fold (or something like that) what they paid in.

      That’s why it can’t be changed for over-55s.

I think the only pick that would get me excited is Newt. Ryan is of course an leading figure in the party but he isnt a real leader or visionary. He is a technocrat which is not bad, but he gets mired in the details of how to get things marginally better by fixing things rather than by changing the relationship between the people and federal government to a more pre FDR role. If we keep ceeding the that FDR was correct (the guy was a economic loon tune) we’ve already lost. The dems will continue to use the treasury as a purse to purchase votes.

Maybe we are just dancing at the edges, perhaps the super debt is to great and we are destined to collapse similar to what happens to Italy or Greece. I feel better that if Romney is elected, Ryan will be there, but it will still be Romney in the office. I perhaps would prefer Ryan to stay in the senate, where he would be an independent voice, perhaps a lone sane voice in the senate.

    creeper in reply to imfine. | August 11, 2012 at 11:46 am

    Excuse me? After four years of the worst narcissist to ever hold the office of President you’re arguing for “flash”?

    Screw flash. Let’s have some substance for a change.

      imfine in reply to creeper. | August 11, 2012 at 12:48 pm

      Romney is as bad a narcasist as Obama. As far as I can Romney’s only consistent platform over the years has been people should elect him. Back in 94 he denounced Reagan and ran to the left of Kennedy and lost in a landslide year. He instituted obamacare in mass as governor and ran the republican party into the ground so badly that he didn’t bother to run for a second term. He slandered the speaker and ran a despicable campaign to capture the nomination, now that he has it he’s going to “reform” obamacare. Seriousily???? You want to vote to destroy the republican party???? You’re voting for basically an Obama with a more coherent foriegn policy. Not exactly a great one like newt’s, just one that’s not mind fuckingly stupid like Obama’s.

      So in January if we get what you want, maybe the markets will be doing better who knows, but basically we will have the republican Obama running the show, and there will be no effective opposition to socialism in congress. We’ll be considerate to the poor who have grown used to the government teat but no more compassion who working family that has to pay for it. We will sti be printing money and doing open market ops to control inflation, but what happens when we go into a recovery and hyper – inflation starts rearing it’s ugly head? All those trillions of dollars floated in the backdoor coming back to bite us in the ass. Revolution will be in the air. Why do you think the government has been preparing for domestic insurgencies in 2016??? I think they know something the rest of us don’t.

    JackRussellTerrierist in reply to imfine. | August 11, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    Ryan is in the House, not the senate. BIG difference.

    Shows what you know. 🙂

BannedbytheGuardian | August 11, 2012 at 10:39 am

Just a note for everyone booing socialists . Your problem is not socialism -it is insolvency.

Massachussetts Michigan & Wisconsin -the three states associated with R & R are way more socialist than most ‘socialist’ countries.

It doesn’t matter how a state /nation spends its money as long as they have it to spend.

That ought be the point.

    Your problem is not socialism -it is insolvency.

    You’re problem is that you don’t seem to understand that they are not two separate issues.

    insolvency is a direct and inevitable result of socialism

    Massachussetts Michigan & Wisconsin -the three states associated with R & R are way more socialist than most ‘socialist’ countries.

    As a native Michigander, born and raised–you know not of which you speak.

    Let me educate you:

    Michigan, like Wisconsin, like the Mid-West, is pretty much “libertarian”…..bitter clingers.

    Detroit is NOT Michigan.

    Milwaukee and Madison are NOT Wisconsin.

      OcTEApi in reply to Browndog. | August 11, 2012 at 11:49 am

      Candidates home states benefit significantly, Wisconsin and Michigan are definitely in play for Romney/Ryan…

      I believe a tide of states will go for Romney and with a couple more swing state wins means a electoral slam dunk.

      BannedbytheGuardian in reply to Browndog. | August 11, 2012 at 7:32 pm

      You cannot disown Detroit

      Ditto the scenes in Madison.

      Yes and it is the Peoples Republic of Boulder. But Colorado is latte socialist also.

      The apple does not fall far from the tree in its own state

      There are at least 10′ socialist’ states in the USA. But it is their right & as long as they are solvent – few have complained.

      BTW Michigan has Governors – are they toothless? Quite possibly against a heavy union economy..

    Henry Hawkins in reply to BannedbytheGuardian. | August 11, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    “It doesn’t matter how a state /nation spends its money as long as they have it to spend.”

    This explains much, ya Euro-commie. The money doesn’t belong to the state or federal government. It belongs to the people.

    You ought to recall Margaret Thatcher’s indictment of this kind of thinking:

    “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.”

    Then again, it is a requisite of willful ignorance not to recall self-damning facts.

      BannedbytheGuardian in reply to Henry Hawkins. | August 11, 2012 at 7:42 pm

      Britain’s problem was it ran out of other’s (colonies) resources.

      Not tp mention a few hundred opium plantations , piracy , slave trading & renditioning of all its undesirables to far off places.

      Its chickens came home to roost.

    JackRussellTerrierist in reply to BannedbytheGuardian. | August 11, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    Look around you. Look at the economic history of socialist countries and their current crises.

    Socialism=insolvency.

    The weight of demand, driven by human nature to take the easy way and more when it is “free”, will always outpace productivity.

As I mentioned elsewhere, I’m happy with the choice. I just wish there are two Ryan so one can serve as VP and one can serve in his current capacity as the chairman of House Budget Committee. His absence from there will be felt.

    Henry Hawkins in reply to BigFire. | August 11, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    I’ve been looking over the rest of the majority members of the Budget Committee and I am not edified, but we may rest assured that a salient portion of Ryan’s staff will be joining and educating the new Chairman of the House Budget Committee. Hopefully lightning strikes twice and a new star arises in the position.

Great Move! Paul Ryan is a Walking Newscycle on Medicare and Social Security, two irrefutable examples of the Democrats’ inability to manage taxpayer money. With these bankrupting socialist programs taking center stage again, Obama and his media lapdogs will now be forced into deciding if they should persist with romney’s character assassination or retrain their fire on one the most articulate, good looking, unassailable authority on Obama’s mishandling of the economy. Ignoring the latter will mean Ryan will be able to create an unchallenged narrative of the Democrats failed policies. Either way, Obama is now forced into a defensive position.

This semi-acolyte of Ayn Rand will absolutely destroy Biden and Obama in any debate. And look for Romney’s polling gains among independents when Ryan hits the interview circuit on the major networks. Good VPs are just like military tanks. Glad that we are finally on the offensive.

I’m feeling good about November already!

Midwest Rhino | August 11, 2012 at 10:44 am

When questioned on foreign policy, Ryan can start by saying:

Mr. Obama bowed to the Saudi King and to China, I would never do that.

Obama whispered to Russia that he would be more flexible after the election, I wouldn’t do that.

Obama oversaw the running of guns to Mexican drug cartels … that could never happen under me.

Mr. Obama went to Brazil and supported their oil exploration after shutting down ours, promising to be their best customer. I would support American exploration instead.

Every opportunity should be taken to redirect media attack questions to first point out Obama failures.

Ideology vs. Substance

Sure, you can run the numbers and have a debate on substance all day. Romney will have his set, Obama his. Eyes gloss over…

We have to remember that “policy” is driven by ideology. 2010 was a historic victory because the central focus was ideology, not math.

Founding principles, individual liberty.

Both Krauthammer and Rush have made the point this week. Image my surprise while watching the round table discussion of MSNBC, and the echo chamber criticism of Ryan’s speech being “short on policy, short on specific-purposely ignoring details to hide from them”…

Last to chime in was Melissa Harris-Perry, who noted “this was speech about ideology, not substance.

Talk economy all you want-

To me, this election is won or lost on:

YOU DIDN’T BUILD THAT vs. YOU BUILT THAT

Here is what I posted at Michelle Malkin’s blog:

On August 11th, 2012 at 11:08 am, Pasadena Phil said:

The narrative matters. I am all about narrative because there is nothing else left this year. I have little doubt that everyone here, including me, will be voting for Romney this November. But when we do, we have to be angrier at the GOP for putting us in this situation in the first place. We can’t let the GOPE rewrite history and get away with it. What should we be angry about?

That we are returning to power the very people who so abandoned fiscal responsible and small government principles that we could just as well have elected Ted Kennedy for eight years and gotten less spending and less debt than what the Bush Republicans saddled us with.

We have to keep it front and center in our minds that we are re-instating the very people who made Obama possible in the first place. So when we cast that vote, we have to do it with a snarling face and chomping at the bit to fight these guys from day one.

“Alright GOP. You wanted this? You got it! But it won’t be business as usual anymore! You’ve been on the wrong side on every issue for eternity. We see you coming. We’re ready!”

The first thing we should be demanding from Romney is for him to demand that Congress either address the economy before the election while demanding his solutions, or to go home after the November elections. Take responsibility right now for what happens next.

Let’s not allow Romney to duck the issue by hiding behind the work of a lame duck Congress. He needs to start wrestling the issues as a participant and right now. He is not a bystander. If he cares about the outcome, he needs to start fighting right now. That is what campaigns used to be about before they turned into beauty contests of empty suits spouting empty rhetoric.

http://michellemalkin.com/2012/08/11/this-is-what-forward-really-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-1356806

Frankly, I don’t “feel it” from “our” team. We just refuse to embrace the anger and focus it where it belongs. It will be a sad thing to be celebrating the very people who created the current problems and allowed them to fester further under Obama.

    Ragspierre in reply to Pasadena Phil. | August 11, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    “Alright GOP. You wanted this? You got it! But it won’t be business as usual anymore! You’ve been on the wrong side on every issue for eternity. We see you coming. We’re ready!”

    See, when you get this extreme, you lose your credibility.

    Consider your own hyperbole. It isn’t at all measured criticism, which could be totally valid.

    It is EVERY issue, ALL the time, NEVER were they right.

    And that simply is not true. Is it?

    Ragspierre in reply to Pasadena Phil. | August 11, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    “The first thing we should be demanding from Romney is for him to demand that Congress either address the economy before the election while demanding his solutions, or to go home after the November elections.”

    WTF? I can’t think of a WORSE campaign strategy than that! Have Romney take the role of UNELECTED dictator, and tell a co-equal branch of government they should go home if they don’t conform to his demands?

      punfundit in reply to Ragspierre. | August 11, 2012 at 12:54 pm

      Wait, so Pasadena Phil is arguing for Romney to be another Obama?

      What’s in your coffee, Phil?

        Henry Hawkins in reply to punfundit. | August 11, 2012 at 1:17 pm

        So, who wants to explain to Phil that the Senate is out until September 7th, and the House will only be in session for 13 days between now and the election?

The crazier the left acts, the more desperate that really are. The extreme outrage being expressed indicates that they were expecting Romney to make a “safer” choice. The selection of Paul Ryan has ginned up every Tea Party activist I know — and they tend to donate, phone bank, and walk precincts instead of hurl Twitter insults.

    punfundit in reply to Mutnodjmet. | August 11, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    Ridicule their ludicrous outrage, and then double down the ridicule. Reductio ad absurdum is the order of the day. Or as Rush would say: demonstrate absurdity by being absurd.

    Don’t give them the sobriety they believe their outrage deserves.

“It doesn’t matter how a state /nation spends its money as long as they have it to spend.”

Oh, contraire! It matters very much how a nation spends its money. First, the less the government spends, the better, even if ample revenues are available. Second, social welfare programs may be good social policy, but they are terrible economic policy; it’s a tradeoff that must be made carefully. Third, some government spending can enhance economic performance, but doing so is extremely difficult for government because politics always is a controlling factor. In general the Interstate highway system was an economic boon, but too many bridges to nowhere make this a loser.

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I’ll paraphrase Andrew Breitbart. Romney isn’t primarily running against Obama: he’s running against the media. Obama, Pelosi, Reid are “weak sisters” — weak politicians, shallow thinkers, obvious liars, morally defective people –who would be exposed as unsustainable frauds without the media. The media is their massive iron lung — the thing that keeps them alive. I have yet to meet the Republican other than Newt Gingrich on a good day who understood this, i.e., who really saw the media for what it was. Republicans continue to accept the premises and moral inquisatorial authority of the media.

The media is the most anti-social, anti-intellectual, illiberal, anti-American, destructive and poisonous institution in our nation. To me, the recognition of this and the willingness to act on the recognition is priority number one.

I wish beyond all things that someone on Romney’s team comes to this recognition.

    Henry Hawkins in reply to raven. | August 11, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    Romney would do well to give Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh advisory roles to his communications team.

    A bi-weekly conference call with all the bigger conservative blogs would help as well.

      punfundit in reply to Henry Hawkins. | August 11, 2012 at 1:43 pm

      Not to mention the healing that could come from that.

      Ragspierre in reply to Henry Hawkins. | August 11, 2012 at 1:47 pm

      I TOTALLY agree with that. Can you imagine the insights they could obtain from a private chat with Rush and Mark Levin alone? Throw in Laura Ingram and Tammy Bruce, and you’d have a killer combination of viewpoints.

      Plus, if you let it be known they were happening, pea-soup would come shooting out of the orifices of the collective Collective!!!

      ALLLLLLL good…!!!!

    punfundit in reply to raven. | August 11, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    Amen, both of you!

Ambivalence is a good word. I think too many conservatives are taking it as a fete’ au complait that Romney is going to make it through Tampa unscathed. The REAL Federal lawsuit regarding his extensive voter fraud (including tampering with Diebold machines) could complete upend this coronation.

I’d rather have RYAN for President than Romney but Ryan has many faults including allowing the press to hammer Newt Gingrich for something RYAN eventually admitted was wrong about his Medicare reform plan.

Remembering the Mixed Paul Ryan Record of Conservatism. What He Will do Right| @PolitiJim/Rant Political | http://bit.ly/P9dpi5

Mark Steyn makes the same point today that I just made.

http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/america-368158-obama-romney.html

Of course, he says it much better. Where are you Mitt? It’s time to get into the game.

I’d much prefer that Romney’s team not jump when Obummer’s team essentially tells it to by letting loose some outrageous nonsense that needs countering or explaining. So far I think the Romney team has been handling the attacks very well. They’re not letting the jackasses set the tone of the campaign–only the Dems’ side of the campaign. Romney’s people are doing at least as much acting as reacting. For wavering Dem and Indie voters reluctant to vote Republican for whatever reason, this difference in tone and credibility might work to push them into making the right voting decision.

We elect liberty over submission with benefits. We choose voluntary exploitation through economic exchange and charitable works rather than redistributive change. We respect the individual dignity of our fellow citizens, and in following, do not envy the product of their success. We, hopefully, recognize the intrinsic value of human life and reject dreams of (physical) instant gratification, if for no other reason than to ensure the fitness of our society.

Incidentally, America is not defined by any one religion; although, it was and is principles of Christian temperance that is the premise for a people capable of self-moderating behavior, and therefore capable and worthy of individual liberty.

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