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FRC shooting suspect was volunteering at DC LGBT Community Center

FRC shooting suspect was volunteering at DC LGBT Community Center

It has just been confirmed that Family Research Council shooting suspect Floyd Corkins II had been volunteering at the DC Center for the LGBT Community for the past six months.

From the AP:

David Mariner is executive director of The DC Center for the LGBT Community. He says Corkins had been volunteering at the center for about the past 6 months. Mariner describes Corkins as “kind, gentle and unassuming.”

Corkins, in his late 20s, is the suspect in the shooting that occurred in the lobby of the Family Research Council headquarters in downtown Washington, D.C., Wednesday morning. According to law enforcement officials, Corkins made negative comments about the FRC prior to shooting security guard Leo Johnson in the arm. Corkins also reportedly had a Chick-fil-A bag with him at the time.

As of 6pm Wednesday evening, the White House has not released a statement regarding the shooting.

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kind, gentle and unassuming?

They might want to reassess their opinion.

So when radical gay activists aren’t trying to tear apart the fabric of society, they’re shooting holes in it.

    Is the FRC any more “extreme” than the group that wanted to plant a mosque at Ground Zero? Where’s the hate in the FRC’s agenda? What have they done to deserve all of the vilification they’ve received from the left?

Hmm. Will the media point out that describing the Family Research Council as a hate group might have contributed to this shooting? They surely would if the shooter was a member of an anti-abortion group who shot up a planned parenthood center.

Will the media point out that if using millennia old religious argument against gay marriage qualifies one as being part of hate group then … aren’t all muslims, by definition, part of a hate group? And Jews. And Christians.

Shouldn’t we then just consider all religious people as no better than klansmen and nazis?

    Shouldn’t we then just consider all religious people as no better than klansmen and nazis?

    *****

    The Left’s cool with that. They’ll be taking up your suggestion.

    That was the point I saw with Rahm Emanuel. He called on Farakhan, who also is against gay marriage, to help him with street violence and also allowed a Nation of Islam (whom also condemn gay marriage) restaurant to open up in his city. It is okay for them not accept gay marriage but CFA is not allowed?

    And Rahm is an Orthodox Jew! His own religion has the same opinion on gay marriage. Yet it is only the Christians that get the abuse and condemnation.

    The left sees themselves as intellectuals yet they cannot see their own hypocrisy or double standard. It is almost laughable.

When do we reconsider tolerance of the public expression of this vice? As has been known for all human history, this vice diminishes men to becomes slaves to their passions. They’ll eventually act out, like Floyd did today.

And yet it is the “right wingers” that are violent. Uh huh.

He says Corkins had been volunteering at the center for about the past 6 months. Mariner describes Corkins as “kind, gentle and unassuming.” Well, except for that eye twitch and those awful mouth contortions, grunting and drooling.

re: “Mariner describes Corkins as “kind, gentle and unassuming.”

My experience, after working with members of the LGBT community for over 11 years, has shown me that most actions and attitudes displayed by members of the LGBT community are a facade. Many have a lot of basic anger and rage that no level of acceptance will erase. The problem is not an external one of acting out the LGBT lifestyle or demonstrated rage, but rather internal conflicts.

    That’s interesting, because in my decade of having close friends, classmates, co-workers, customers, bosses and patients that are members of the LGBT community, I’ve found that saying “most of them are” anything is as ridiculous as saying “most Americans are xyz”. I’ve seen a lot of LGBT people at their best and and their worst, and I’ve never found them to be particularly more or less “anger and rage” than the other people I encounter throughout life. Can I ask in what capacity you’re meeting all of these angry LGBT people?

      SmokeVanThorn in reply to Awing1. | August 15, 2012 at 8:32 pm

      It’s truly remarkable that the LGBT people you know have no more “anger and rage” than other people. They either are superior to other people or not as oppressed as claimed. Which do you suppose it is?

        That would be what is called a “false dichotomy”, since there is, in fact, a third possible option: being oppressed doesn’t necessarily lead to anger and rage.

          SmokeVanThorn in reply to Awing1. | August 15, 2012 at 10:21 pm

          You are correct that there is a third possibility, but it isn’t that oppression “doesn’t necessarily lead to anger and rage” – it’s that oppression never leads to anger and rage.

          Unless oppression never leads to anger and rage, an allegedly oppressed group must either have a greater incidence than a non-oppressed group or be less prone to react to oppression with anger and rage.

          You say that LGBT people have the same level of anger and rage as others. That can only be true if (a) LGBT people are oppressed but oppression never leads to anger and rage; or (b) oppression sometimes but not always (“doesn’t necessarily”) leads to anger and rage, so LGBT people (or any oppressed group) would have a higher incidence of those emotions than other non-oppressed people, except LGBT people have a superior ability to react to oppression without anger or rage; or (c) LGBT people are not oppressed.

          Awing1 in reply to Awing1. | August 15, 2012 at 10:30 pm

          That’s just patently false. It can be the case that oppression sometimes leads to anger and rage, yet the way in which gays and lesbians are allegedly oppressed (I wouldn’t necessarily say that they are, but for the sake of argument) doesn’t lead to anger and rage, and therefore oppressed gays and lesbians would be no more angry or rage-filled than the average person. So, oppression in the form of legalized slavery may lead to anger and rage, whereas oppression in the form of socially accepted discrimination may not. In that case, oppression would sometimes lead to anger and rage, but oppressed gays and lesbians would not be filled with more anger and rage than the average person. QED

          SmokeVanThorn in reply to Awing1. | August 16, 2012 at 10:33 pm

          So you posit that LGBT people are oppressed, but the oppression they experience is a type that doesn’t anger or enrage them. That sounds like pretty non-oppressive oppression.

          Awing1 in reply to Awing1. | August 17, 2012 at 3:27 am

          Tell that to the serfs of the middle ages. I guess because someone isn’t angered or enraged by something, it must not be bad right?

          Also, I like how gays are either angry, in which case discrimination against them is acceptable, or they are not, in which case discrimination against them isn’t harmful. Either way, we get to discriminate them. That’s quite convenient logic.

      NC Mountain Girl in reply to Awing1. | August 15, 2012 at 8:39 pm

      Ask a few big city cops about frequency and severity of domestic violence calls among gays and lesbians and among straights. It is still frowned on for men to beat up on women or to retaliate in kind when a wife or girl friend beats up on them. Those social constraints don’t apply to lovers’ quarrels among gays and lesbians.

        It certainly couldn’t be that gays and lesbians are more likely to report domestic violence than their straight counterparts because power balances aren’t as skewed as they are in straight relationships.

          janitor in reply to Awing1. | August 15, 2012 at 9:03 pm

          If the power balances aren’t as skewed, one would think they would be LESS likely to call for police assistance.

          Awing1 in reply to Awing1. | August 15, 2012 at 9:05 pm

          Have you ever worked with domestic violence victims? I have in both an emergency medical capacity as well as in a prosecutorial capacity. The primary reason for failure to report domestic violence is because the victim is afraid of the perpetrator, not because they feel on an equal footing.

        Over the years, I have developed the concept that in gay co- habitation partners, the testosterone levels in both male partners may contribute to greater domestic violentce levels than are found in heterosexual marriage partners. And, of course, in a gay partnership, there is absence of the social taboo prohibiting the striking of a woman.

        So testosterone levels of two men may provide the fuel and there is less social stigma for hitting a man, who is a partner in a gay relationship.

          Awing1 in reply to logos. | August 16, 2012 at 12:36 am

          Just out of curiosity, is there a reason you are comparing all homosexual couples that cohabitate against only married heterosexual couples? Why leave out unmarried heterosexual couples that cohabitate?

    Correlation is not necessarily causation.

    For example, I don’t regularly read the GayPatriot blog because there are only so many hours in the day, but whenever I go over there I respect what I see.

1. Floyd Corkins is the real victim here. The perpetrators are the bigots whose persecution drove him to his alleged act. Justice for Floyd! Reparations from the FRC!

2. Obviously we need to take a hard look at the how hate groups like the FRC use the First and Second Amendments to facilitate crimes like today’s shooting. In fact, we urgently need to ask whether the Constitution is inadequate as an instrument of social justice.

3. LI regulars know I’m being sarcastic, but I bet one could find leftist posts that seriously claim what I just wrote.

    CalMark in reply to gs. | August 15, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    …except they wouldn’t express what you wrote in such civilized terms. Reasonable people are incapable of the invective and polemical brutality that are subconsciously routine to the left.

    P.S. I wonder if the Phantom Down-Flagger will hit this post, too?

What an uncomfortable reality for some liberals. Im sure they are busy at work fashioning some “winning position” in all this….as agenda must be served at all costs.
Ill bet Obama is busy on the phone right now talking to the guard who was wounded…unless there is more important business like his 204th money grab somewhere.

Midwest Rhino | August 15, 2012 at 8:11 pm

Well, Rosie said anyone eating at Chick-fil-A should get cancer, so I suppose this guy was relatively discerning.

But reading any of the comments on LGBT sites that were promoting the “Chick-fil-A wants to kill gays” BS lines, you would find plenty of suspects for this shooting, though it was milder than what many suggested.

The homosexual community is forgetting that there are more of us than there are of them. They are forgetting the tolerance of Judaeo-Christians: orthodox in our beliefs, we do not seek to harm them only to limit their influence to transform our society radically. They forget that we do not treat homosexual after the manner of Islamic countries. They forget we vote and every action like this brings more people to our cause. In the true manner of Communists, what they cannot achieve by consent, they seek to wrest by force. Good luck with that.

[…] Was Volunteer at LGBT Center Posted at 8:47 on August 15, 2012 by Jim Hoft Haters will hate. A LGBT volunteer carrying bag of Chick-fil-A ‘goodies’ shot up the conservative Family Research Center […]

Notice we haven’t heard a peep out of the Main Stream Morons about his “political” affiliations. As soon as I see a story about a shooting event like this, and I don’t see a political affiliation label or any discussion of the shooter’s background (or a ‘we don’t know enough to comment’ claim) then I KNOW that the shooter is a LIBERAL or MARXIST and the Main Stream Morons are trying to BURY it so their precious little social-engineering doesn’t get tarred and feathered with the (very appropriate) “extremist” label.

Everybody should be calling out the Main Stream Morons for their hypocrisy. Within minutes of the Wisconsin shooting, they were calling the shooter a “Right Wing Extremist” (Extremist, yes; right wing, not hardly). This guy is a LEFTIST, and the media suddenly clams up.

Odd. I’ve been kind of busy today. Just checked google news for the first time. Where are the screaming headlines? This is not even on the page.

well now that the LGBT community has a history of hate speach and violence anyone think these LGBT groups will be labeled by SPLC as hate groups

Obviously we need to exercise reasonable gun control by not allowing registered democrats to own guns. Or sharp objects.

A distraction from the battle.

I guess it is okay if the truly tolerant people only hate people who hate other people who are intolerant. Or something like that. Don’t worry. Joe Biden will explain it to us…

theduchessofkitty | August 16, 2012 at 12:17 am

There was something I noticed that, frankly, seems I have seen before.

Today’s attacker kept yelling at the security guard not to shoot him, because, it wasn’t him, it was his employer’s policies.

Didn’t that [email protected]$$ who harassed and intimidated that girl at the Chick-fil-A drive-thru in Tucson back on August 1 say the same thing?

Have any of you noticed that… at all?

theduchessofkitty | August 16, 2012 at 12:22 am

Today, someone got wounded and will probably be fine.

Tomorrow, someone in some other Conservative, Christian or some sort of religious organization might get killed by one of those radicals in the name of “stomping out hate” or “marriage equality”, whatever that means.

To every Conservative in the country: be vigilant. Watch. And be ready for anything.

The guy is a nut job. This is a nutty, nonsensical attack. The FRC is a piddly organization, not the mouthpiece of any hate group. I can only imagine how horrified people at the LBGT center must feel now that they were working with a time bomb that could have gone at any moment towards any of them.

I think the recent spat of shootings have shown a weakness in our system at identifying and treating mental illness, nothing more. Be aware even though it was a “liberal” doing this, they will use this as another excuse for gun control.

    Milhouse in reply to imfine. | August 16, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    The FRC is a piddly organization, not the mouthpiece of any hate group. I can only imagine how horrified people at the LBGT center must feel now that they were working with a time bomb that could have gone at any moment towards any of them.

    You’re joking, right? You and I know that FRC is not the mouthpiece of any hate group, but according to the SPLC, the HRC, and the people down at the GLBT center where this guy was volunteering, the FRC is itself a hate group. That’s what they have been telling him, and he believed them; why wouldn’t he? He’s not some random nutcase like Jared Loughner or James Holmes, he had a specific agenda, and went after the people his friends told him were a hate group. So there is no chance that he could have gone off at them, and they know it.

Henry Hawkins | August 16, 2012 at 11:54 am

As GS notes, correlation is not causation. The 300+ million population of our country is made up of individuals, tiny groups, small groups, larger groups, all the way up to majority groups, plus one may belong to several groups, however one delineates them.

I am:

Male
Lefthanded
Very tall
Rural
Conservative
Yankee by birth
Southern by choice
Gray haired
Ponytailed
Incredibly handsome by all acounts
Not religious
Baby boomer
Financially comfortable
Small business owner
Clinician
Father
Husband
Tea Party activist
Etc.

Were I to kill someone, which of the above – if any – is the motivating factor? What if “nuts” belongs on this list, but nobody realizes I’m nuts? Could a misapplication of motive(s) occur, caused by the subjectivity of the applier?

In a country of 300+ million people, as a matter of simple statistics we’re going to have a lot of very troubled people, lethally troubled people. This era of instant news can make a shooting like the one in DC seem like it happened next door no matter where one lives. A false sense of the rate of frequency or prevalence can emerge, making one feel like society is falling apart. Three shootings occur in one month, but in a country of 300+ million free people, that is a very low number.

Before I go attributing this DC shooting to leftist political thought I need to see proof this guy isn’t nuts as well as a gay activist. What he did is nuts by definition no matter what his beliefs or motives are (if not by the legal definition of insanity).

If being a liberal leftist alone makes one prone to violence, and about 20% of 300+ million people are liberal leftists (60+ million), where is the evidence for all the violent outbursts by leftists this assertion predicts? Not saying the evidence isn’t there, just saying I haven’t seen it.

To pounce on a leftist shooter and ascribe his guilt to all leftists is to play the leftists’ own alinskyite games and I refuse to do it. Empirical evidence I’ll accept in a heartbeat. I don’t have it.

    The Left’s quasiMarxist insistence on force-fitting people into victim or oppressor categories, i.e. “classes”, is trouble in the making. The implications will be sweeping if research establishes significant differences among the Left’s mandated categories. The implications would be minor if our culture’s emphasis were on treating people, whenever possible, on their individual characteristics.

    Past “research” along related lines has an unsavory history, to put it mildly. Nevertheless, John Derbyshire claims that such issues will be revisited with the tools of modern biology. He says that the work will be done in Asia even if it is politically blocked in the West.

      Henry Hawkins in reply to gs. | August 16, 2012 at 8:24 pm

      It is very possible that genetic research alone will produce replicable results that are grossly politically incorrect in the west. The ultimate reduction of this clash is basically idealism vs realism, or the truth vs the truth as we (they) wish it to be.

        Physicist Stephen Hsu has been involved with such research and posts about it on his blog. He is, correctly IMO, restrained about drawing sweeping conclusions:

        An astute commenter asks why we should oppose race-based decision making, if there is real correlational information to be had from ethnicity. I offer two reasons: 1. this country has a bad record on race, and striving towards a race-blind society is worth some small sacrifices, 2. the evidence for genetic group differences is not conclusive and should be treated with great caution.

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