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So, is it still the “Kennedy Seat”?

So, is it still the “Kennedy Seat”?

There’s an interesting brouhaha developing in the Brown-Warren race.

Vicki Kennedy (widow of Ted) has teamed up with MSNBC and the Warren campaign to organize a debate in late September.

Scott Brown accepted the invitation on the conditions that MSNBC not be a sponsor and that Vicki Kennedy withold endorsing in the race.

Now Kennedy is saying she will not abide by that condition and may make an endorsement (gee, I wonder who she will endorse), via The Boston Herald:

Victoria Kennedy is refusing to sit out the Scott Brown-Elizabeth Warren race and withhold her endorsement, thus rejecting a debate demand from the Republican senator’s campaign, officials tell the Herald today.

Officials with the Edward M. Kennedy Institute sent a letter today saying Vicki Kennedy will not abide by Brown’s conditions.

“This non-endorsement pledge is unprecedented and is not being required of any other persons or entities. To us, such a pledge seems inappropriate when a non-media sponsor issues a debate invitation,” officials with the non-profit institute wrote. “We can assure both campaigns that the debate will be fair — just as the one we co-hosted between Senator Brown and Attorney General Coakley in was fair.”

On the surface, one would not think Brown would want to pick a fight with a Kennedy in Massachusetts.  On the other hand, his “this is not the Kennedy seat, this is the people’s seat” line worked quite well against Martha Coakley.

Havard Professor teams up with the Kennedys against Brown.  That could be a winning narrative for Brown.


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Liberals come together to set up a brow beating for a Republican. Republican says no browbeating. Liberals become indignant. Scott should demand to have Rush Limbaugh moderate a debate on fox news instead.

“Da gown versus the town”. I don’t pretend to know much about the Ma. politics, but I do know that South Boston is not real friendly to elites.

Brown is choosing wisely in eschewing the MSNBC debate.

Being a reasonable person, I would understand if Elizabeth Warren wouldn’t want to debate on Fox News with it being sponsored by Ann Romney.

The Democrats swept in 2010 in Massachusetts. The Machine is working. They have made a vow never to let another Scott Brown ever happen again.

Samuel Keck | June 19, 2012 at 2:55 pm

… the Edward M. Kennedy Institute …

Huh! Never heard of it; must be some kind dry out place for alcoholics, betcha.

This was the most brilliant political play I’ve seen in many moons. Hard to believe the Kennedy establishment fell for it. Now that he’s forced them to admit it’s a partisan setup, he can still agree to do the debate and further expose their partisanship with every moonbat question asked.

Then when he arranges the Fox News debate moderated by Pat Buchanan they will either have to accept or look like complete wimps.

The Edward Kennedy Institute? I think it is a scuba dive salvage shop.

Cassandra Lite | June 19, 2012 at 3:27 pm

I wonder who Mary Jo Kopechne is endorsing.

    Cassandra Lite in reply to Cassandra Lite. | June 19, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    I’m serious about this. If his widow–who, as gs points out, knew exactly who her husband was before marrying him–is granted player status in this absurd affair, then why not the young woman who naively didn’t realize that getting into a car with this particular sitting U.S. senator was a fatal idea?

    I’d like to see “Who would Mary Jo support?” become a mantra.

1. Vicki Kennedy married her late husband knowing full well what he was as a human being. That is an essential thing to realize about Vicki Kennedy.

2. Four times the Herald refers to Brown’s “demands”. Thanks for nothing, Boston Herald. Have you ever heard the word “preconditions”?

3. I’m on the same wavelength as previous commenters who suggest alternate sponsorship for debates. Even though I’m less optimistic than our host that this will shake out well—it could backfire among independents—, IMHO Brown is making the right call under the circumstances.

4. It’s unfair, screech the Democrats. We’re always allowed to tilt the playing field! It’s a binding precedent!

5. Brown/Romney are not the Senator/President I’d appoint, but I have to admit I soften toward them when they (actually) fight. Maybe a new species of RINO has emerged.

    Henry Hawkins in reply to gs. | June 19, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    “Maybe a new species of RINO has emerged.”

    Oh, one has. The kind that hears Tea Party footsteps.

      Heh. “Grab ’em by the ***** and their hearts and minds will follow.”

      I think you’re correct in general. The original RINO species has very poor hearing. In fact, members who demonstrate otherwise are shunned by their fellows. Now, natural selection is taking a hand.

      Brown is not a New RINO: he, mistakenly IMO, has given the cold shoulder to the Tea Party types whose activism got him elected. Brown is lucky that his opponent is so horrendous. We’ll see if he is lucky enough.

    persecutor in reply to gs. | June 19, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    Being Missus “Teddy the Swimmer” paid a good salary and she got plenty of perks for being the “good little wifey”. I’m sure she’s still getting some of them as the “good little widow”.

    Vicki, your time is up. Go back to Louisiana and suck on some crawfish heads.

      BannedbytheGuardian in reply to persecutor. | June 19, 2012 at 6:39 pm

      That sounds very elitist . There is no difference between Clam chowder & sucking on crawfish heads. The difference is Today louisiana is well governed & is in te top 5 states for the ease of setting up a business .

      Also they don’t want any yankees.

great unknown | June 19, 2012 at 4:41 pm

Warren is supremely qualified to fill Kennedy’s seat: dishonest, incompetent, socialist…

Henry Hawkins | June 19, 2012 at 5:38 pm

Her ‘I’m a Cherokee!’ nonsense aside, Warren remains a formidable candidate due to her years serving the country as a NASA astronaut.

BannedbytheGuardian | June 19, 2012 at 6:54 pm

L’attaque L’attaque Toujours L’Attaque. This is the time to kill off the Kennedies influence.

The latest Kennedy victim recently hung herself . Her family tried to get her body away from those evil people but they paraded her corpse aloft amidst f**ng celebrities.

That family is the ebola of NE America .

So let me get this straight, this Vicki Kennedy idiot wants to host a debate where she and MSDNC will gang up on Scott Brown?
PU-LEASE! how stupid does this woman think people are? THIS IS NOT THE KENNEDY SEAT!!!

Just for that, I’m donating to Brown’s campaign!
Bunch of damn elitists!

    Henry Hawkins in reply to alex. | June 19, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    “PU-LEASE! how stupid does this woman think people are?”

    As stupid as the GOP, which agreed to multiple GOP primary debates on MSNBC with overtly antagonistic hosts and panels.

      repub primary debates dont’ matter, the lunatics who watch and more importantly belive the crap from MSDNC won’t be voting agains their Messaih anways.

      However I know as an independent, I was able to see just how left MSDNC is compared to Fox, even CNN, and without that comparison I would not seen that exposing of a deep lefy bias. And so for the repub primary, MSDNC served a purpose, in general elections they are useless and essentially part of the dem nominee’s campaign.

Participating in a debate sponsored by msnbc is like stepping on a pile of dog crap, only worse. The stench never goes away despite your efforts at scraping your shoe. Brown would do better by posing for Playgirl again.