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Make an example of Carbonite (Update: ProFlowers joins Rush boycott)

Make an example of Carbonite (Update: ProFlowers joins Rush boycott)

Liberal groups have seized on a strategy I didn’t think would be effective, but has had some success, to go after advertisers of prominent conservative media personalities.

Media Matters explicitly seeks to bring down Fox News and investigate its executives, and Fox News advertisers have been targeted by groups like Color of Change, which has targeted Glenn Beck, Eric Bolling, Lou Dobbs, Pat Buchanan and Andrew Breitbart.

Now Rush Limbaugh advertisers are the target because of an analogy he used.  As Jimmie Bise points out, Rush’s comments were overblown if one listens to what he actually said, but nonetheless, the use of “slut” or “prostitute” even in an analogy was inappropriate, as Rush has acknowledged.  It also distracted from the attack on religious freedom which is the heart of the controversy.

As has become the pattern, Rush’s advertisers immediately were attacked and threatened, and several gave in quickly, like Quicken Loans and Sleep Number, pulling their advertising.

No advertiser was more associated with Rush than Carbonite, an online computer back up company.  Rush often would read Carbonite’s ads himself, and would tout their service.

Carbonite initially took a principled position, asserting that it advertises on both conservative and liberal shows, and that its advertising does not constitute an endorsement of what any particular host says.

Indeed, Carbonite still advertises on the show of Ed  Schultz, who makes unhinged attacks on the Tea Party and conservatives daily, and called conservative talk show host Laura Ingraham a slut (for which he later apologized).

In his initial press release, David Friend, the CEO of Carbonite, stated that he would be speaking personally with Rush next week to discuss the issue.

Then Saturday night, the CEO of Carbonite issued a statement withdrawing advertising from Rush’s show notwithstanding that earlier in the day Rush has issued an apology.  The text is in my prior post.

The reaction among my readers and others on Twitter has been fast and furious, focusing as much on Carbonite’s hypocrisy as well as the way in which Carbonite so publicly injected itself into the political fight.

Make no mistake, the fight is not over Rush’s words, for which he has apologized.

This is not a question of promoting more speech, or alternative views.  This is an attempt find something, anything, to force Rush off the air.  Ms. Magazine has launched a campaign to do just that by going after Clear Channel Communications, whose stations carry Rush’s program.

Rush will survive this controversy, but most conservatives would not.  It takes just one joke gone bad, one misplaced analogy, and a conservative talk show host could see his or her advertisers under organized assault.  As Ed Schultz shows, a completely different standard is applied to liberal talk show hosts.

It is time to take a stand against the left-wing tactic of going after advertisers.  Carbonite is the company on which to make that stand.

First, Carbonite is so associated with Rush that it must have a high number of Rush listeners as subscribers.  Far more, I suspect, than those who love to hear Ed Schultz call the Tea Party names.  So a reaction can be effective.

Second, Carbonite is a small public company, so it has to answer to shareholders.  Carbonite’s share price has dropped preciptously in the last several months for reasons having nothing to do with this controversy.  Going political and attacking a large segment of one’s subscriber base seems like a losing business strategy, and the CEO does not have the last word on the subject.

Third, Carbonite is in a weak financial position.  That may be why it reacted to left-wing pressure as it did. But it also is why it may pay a heavy price for its political actions in taking sides.

In Carbonite’s most recent Quarterly filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, Carbonite discloses that it loses money hand over fist, and is expected to do so for the foreseeable future [note: I broke the single long paragraph down into multiple paragraphs to make it more readable]:

Risks Related to Our Business

We have experienced losses and negative cash flow since our inception, and we may not be able to achieve or sustain profitability or positive cash flow in the future.

We experienced net losses of $17.4 million for 2008, $19.2 million for 2009, $25.8 million for 2010, and $17.4 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2011, respectively, and have an accumulated deficit of $94.3 million as of September 30, 2011.

We have not generally achieved positive cash flow from our operations or reported net income, and we do not expect to be profitable for the foreseeable future. We expect to continue making significant expenditures to develop and expand our business, including for advertising, customer acquisition, technology infrastructure, storage capacity, product development, and international expansion, in an effort to increase and service our customer base.

In 2011, we have incurred, and expect to continue to incur, increased expenses associated with the relocation of one of our data centers to a new facility, and with relocating our customer service operations from India to the U.S., which will adversely affect our operating results for 2011. We also expect that our quarterly results may fluctuate due to a variety of factors described elsewhere in this Quarterly Report on Form 10-Q, including the timing and amount of our advertising expenditures, which are seasonal, as well as the timing and amount of expenditures related to the development of technologies and solutions and to defend intellectual property infringement and other claims.

In addition, as a public company, we incur significant legal, accounting and other expenses, including increased costs for director and officer liability insurance that we did not incur as a private company. We may also incur increased losses and negative cash flow in the future for a number of reasons, and we may encounter unforeseen expenses, difficulties, complications, delays, and other unknown events.

For these reasons, we expect to continue to record net losses for the next several years and we may not be able to achieve or maintain positive cash flow from operations or profitability.

I am dead set against the tactic of targeted boycotts used as a means of suppressing speech, as I have said many times here.  But simply speaking out against the tactic is not working.

People can criticize Rush Limbaugh, or Sean Hannity, or anyone else.  That’s okay.  The answer to speech one does not like is more speech, not silencing others.  Carbonite has joined the side of those who want to suppress speech.

It’s time to take a stand against those advertisers who succumb to the pressure.  We should not expect advertisers to take sides, and I would not want Carbonite to stop advertising on the Ed Schultz show.  Carbonite should return to its prior, politically neutral position.

We need to send a message that we will not acquiesce in the new left-wing tactic of trying to force conservatives off the air by targeting advertisers.

Carbonite is the place to start.

Update 2:20 p.m. ProFlowers just announced on Facebook that it is dropping its advertising on Rush.  DailyKos and others had been organizing a boycott of ProFlowers, which had held out until now.

Later Updates:  Kirsten Powers who has pushed back in the past against the sexualized attacks on Sarah Palin, Christine O’Donnell and other conservative women from those on the left, gets it right:

Did you know there is a war on women?

Yes, it’s true. Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, Bill Maher, Matt Taibbi, and Ed Schultz have been waging it for years with their misogynist outbursts. There have been boycotts by people on the left who are outraged that these guys still have jobs. Oh, wait. Sorry, that never happened.

Boycotts are reserved for people on the right like Rush Limbaugh ….


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Juba Doobai! | March 4, 2012 at 11:21 am

Gat trumpet you got there, Wm. Excellent use of it.


Juba Doobai! | March 4, 2012 at 11:21 am

That should be “Great trumpet”. Bloody iPads.

Contact all of these companies and tell them you have many contacts in the conservative world and are sending out other emails. And of course do that too.

Two things…

1. MOZY…say it with me…as an alternative to Carbonite; and,

2. I have long held that a boycott…or a BUYcott…is as close to a pure exercise in democracy as you can find, and wholly in keeping with free market principles.

You and I can let Rush and his sponsors know we will stand by him, and you and I can vote with our dollars (which provide us exquisitely finer choices than do our actual ballots).

Somebody needs to be identifying these left-wing pressure groups and making THEIR lives more interesting. If Rush Limbaugh and Carbonite have to pay dearly for exercising their right to free speech, so should these leftists.

I can understand why Carbonite is losing money. They don’t have a good product, in my view. Their customer service is worse than their product. I had it for a while and found problems with it. Their customer service was difficult to contact and of no help once I got their attention. Rush may be better off without Carbonite. As a customer I’m better off without them.

Argh! This is a tough one. On one hand, they did make an ass out of themselves by running from Rush.

On the other hand.
o Carbonite has a long track record of sponsoring the conservative message on Rush’s show. Thank you.
o Carbonite is a business and has enough troubles maintaining its viability in a tough business climate without becoming embroiled in a political debate.
o Carbonite has the right to sponsor anyone they want the same as Rush has the right to espouse any idea he wants (as we have a right to choose companies to do business with). They are flip-sides to the same free-speech coin.

If Carbonite wanted to do this right, from a public-relations perspective, they should’ve also dropped sponsorship from Ed Shultz. That would’ve made it clear that the political realm was too “hot” at this time for any kind of sponsorship, be it on a liberal or a conservative show. Instead, they now have a no-win PR situation.

    raven in reply to quiznilo. | March 4, 2012 at 11:45 am

    If they wanted to do it right from a moral and American perspective they would say that free speech is free speech, and inviolable, and that they’ll continue their sponsorship of both Schultz and Rush and that people need to stop getting the vapors over mere words and learn to love and embrace the open debate.

    tsrblke in reply to quiznilo. | March 4, 2012 at 11:49 am

    Point 3 has an obvious corallary which is you have the right to choose who you purchase from based on their corperate actions. Typically I (personally) don’t weight that very high in my assement of my purchases, but it does go up and down every now and then when someone does something markedly stupid.

    In any case, I’ve been wondering of Carbonite was just looking for cover to pull their ads anyway. Rush ads must be expensive (with the high listener ads) I wonder if the payments to Ed Show are so small they’ve forgotten about them….

    windbag in reply to quiznilo. | March 4, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    Carbonite is a business and has enough troubles maintaining its viability in a tough business climate without becoming embroiled in a political debate.

    They are the ones who jumped into the water.

GenetheHappy | March 4, 2012 at 11:46 am

I’m glad Alan Grayson isn’t boycotting conservative sites.

Just dropped my Carbonite account and told them why. I heard about this company on Rush’s show. I support Rush.

LukeHandCool | March 4, 2012 at 11:50 am

Quarterly and annual earnings estimates for Carbonite have all fallen over the last month from negative to even more negative and it had a rather larger negative earnings surprise the quarter before last.

Not good timing for it to inject itself into a controversy. It looks quite vulnerable.

I, too, do not really like the idea of going after advertisers, but Mr. Friend really needs to ponder that Ed Schultz clip.



Businesses cowering to the leftists?

“ESPN erases Israel from its list of countries served”

Is this something?

Congratulations, Professor.
You are being Breitbart.

Without free speech, we end up with insulated factions, which leads to civil war.

    Ragspierre in reply to Voyager. | March 4, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    And who would suppress free speech, as between the Collective and Conservatives? That is done by force.

    It is NOT a suppression of free speech to walk away from someone with whom you disagree.

    It is NOT a suppression of free speech to vote with your dollars for…or against…the message someone is sponsoring. It is, in fact, a market choice. Think of it as you would any kind of feed-back you send producers in the market.

    You and I are under no compulsion to consume anything…yet.

      Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | March 4, 2012 at 1:51 pm

      You disapprove? Have the courage to say WHY.

        Voyager in reply to Ragspierre. | March 4, 2012 at 10:10 pm

        The end result of massive silencing campaigns is the same.

        Look at LA. Any one with the wrong opinions is shunned by all “right thinking” people. Sure, they are free to do that, but the end result is a city that is hyper-factionalised, and in which every faction exists in its own perfect echo chamber.

        People don’t reveal what faction they are unless they are sure you are of the same faction. Ever day was like the Sienfield abortion episode.

        I used to live there, and I never, ever, want to go back.

$94 Million in debt is reason enough to use another online backup service. Do you really want to risk the irreplaceable pictures and movies of your children to a wuss like Mr. Friend?

[…] Carbonite, Quicken Loans, Sleep Train, Legal Zoom, Citrix Systems and Sleep Number will never see a dime of my family’s business.  These firms have chosen sides.  So be it. […]

I think the other conservative hosts should drop Carbonite as a sponsor. Conservative radio has a much larger audience with more money. See how they like not being able to get their message out…

You can start yourself Prof. Jacobson by showing a spine next time. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows that this was a blatant attempt to go after Rush and you helped. You are still helping by saying in this post that Rush needed to apologize. You should have stood up for him from the beginning. Never, EVER, let the Left set the narrative. EVER. Always fight back and always defend your own side.

But no. Conservatives can’t do it. In this misguided effort to somehow stay above it all, to somehow tell yourselves that you’re better than the Left, you never fail to eat your own. You never fail to be exactly what you are. Decent, reasonable, people. And we’ll never win because you’re not willing to fight.

Rush Limbaugh is the most intelligent, articulate, passionate voice of conservatism we have. He is a true gentleman and polite to a fault. I’d actually rather listen to Mark Levin because Rush is just too damned nice for my tastes. When I’m pissed off? I know Mark will be there ready to give me the validation I need when I need it. I feel better after I listen to both of them.

Andrew Breitbart knew that The Narrative is everything. And Rush was set up years ago to be the perfect whipping boy whenever the Left needed a new Narrative. And you, and Ace and his crew, and other so-called conservative blogs played right into it.

The next time something like this happens think of Andrew and ask yourself “what Narrative do they want me to forward” and then do the opposite. Try. It’ll be easy once you get the hang of it.

    Anchovy in reply to Jaynie59. | March 4, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    Absolutely we all should be eager to follow John Boehner and Mitch McConnell into battle. Mount the horses, into the valley of death, brave men onward.


    wodiej in reply to Jaynie59. | March 4, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    Limbaugh is an arrogant blow hard who is full of himself that he actually though it was ok to use this kind of language on world wide talk radio. Why would you allow yourselves to be defined by someone who calls a woman a slut and a prostitute? No wonder conservatives dont’ know if they are coming or going. There seems to be no difference between them and liberals.

    Browndog in reply to Jaynie59. | March 4, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    I guess I disagree with some of what was said-

    Personally, I don’t need a radio talk show host to “validate” my beliefs.

    I’d much rather someone “invalidate” them, using facts, logic, and common sense. I know of no other way to grow and learn. I need to know what I don’t know, not know what I already know.

    You said “the narrative is everything”.

    I can’t disagree more. The narrative is subjective. Commonly a tool for the pundits and propagandists.


    I prefer facts. Not how they are spun.

    Maybe I’m parsing..if so, I apologize.

    Maybe I’m just trying to say that I prefer to be shown why I’m wrong, than told that I am right.

    Maybe I need to give it a rest–being under the weather, and not having the clearest of minds at the moment.

      SmokeVanThorn in reply to Browndog. | March 4, 2012 at 1:35 pm

      This is what I understand Breitbart and Jaynie59 to mean.

      This situation is a great example of how The Narrative is everything and how conservatives must not allow leftists to frame it. The Narrative being pushed by the left is that this is an issue of women’s health and denying the “right to contraception.” The real issue is whether the Obama Administration can force religious institutions to support something contrary to their relgious beliefs, which is a blatant violation of the First Amendment.

      There is always a Narrative – controlling it is much if not most of the battle. Conceding premises to the left is political suicide.

        Scorpio51 in reply to SmokeVanThorn. | March 4, 2012 at 2:15 pm

        I think you have nailed it perfectly.

        Jaynie59 in reply to SmokeVanThorn. | March 4, 2012 at 2:25 pm

        Exactly. Conservatives seems to understand Alinksy tactics but they not only fall for them every time they help marginalize the targets by not fighting back against those tactics.

        Rush Limbaugh has been the target ever since he went on the air. Yet Rush is NOTHING LIKE HIS PRESS. Nothing. I started listening to Mark Levin first because Mark’s show is free. I loved him so much that I decided to pay for a Rush 24/7 membership and signed up for two years. I listened to him for weeks before I finally realized that everything I had ever read or heard about Rush Limbaugh as a flat out lie.

        They attacked Rush over his slut comments because they had already set the narrative about Rush and everyone would believe it. And almost every so-called conservative blogger fed the narrative.

        Rush did not issue that apology to save his show. He did it to save the country. He knew that if he didn’t take himself out of the argument it would go all the way to the election and Obama would win. Just like when they blamed Rush for Oklahoma City and Clinton rode the wave to a second term on the backs of the Evil Right Wing Christian Conservative Narrative.

        Rush Limbaugh is a great man and anyone who doesn’t defend him unconditionally really needs to think about why they’re a conservative in the first place.

          Hope Change in reply to Jaynie59. | March 4, 2012 at 3:35 pm

          Hi Jaynie59 — I love what you say — that once you started to listen to Rush, you realized that everything you had heard about him in the MSM was a lie.

          Rush is a great man. Without doubt. On economics and politics, Rush is a daily panorama of insight, brilliance, historical memory, analysis and optimism. And love of America and the American people. “The people who make this country work.” I love Rush as if he’s a friend.

          AND, Rush’s attitude toward women has been a potential problem for years. When Rush starts talking about women, for pretty much all the years Rush has been on the air, I always just turn off the radio. Because if I keep listening, I am liable to be so insulted that I can’t listen to him again for days.

          Pelosi set out bait. Rush took the bait. Sorry. Rush walked right into this.

          And as emotionally satisfying as a boycott might be, boycotting Carbonite or ProFlowers LEAVES NANCY PEOLSI UNTOUCHED. This is WHAT THE LEFT DOES.

          Super Tuesday is the day after tomorrow.


          We can ACTUALLY GET STARTED REFORMING Washington, D.C.

          And OUR SCHOOLS! Parents won’t allow their children to be indoctrinated by Leftists if parents have power.


          If you support Newt, please! GAIN LEVERAGE WHERE IT COUNTS.

          You know what do do. Sign up at Let them know you’re there, leave a comment at the Public Square and someone will get in touch with you. They’re wonderful people. The best.

          Maybe we can’t roller skate in a buffalo herd, but we can absolutely get Newt the nomination. And if Newt is the nominee, Newt will win in the fall.

          Super Tuesday could be the start of something really big, something that will actually MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Let’s make THAT happen.

          Hope Change in reply to Jaynie59. | March 4, 2012 at 3:48 pm

          I would like to be absolutely clear that it is my opinion that Rush gets to say whatever he wants.

          Once Rush said those things, I guess I would have liked it if Rush hadn’t ended up apologizing. That makes it look as if he can’t say whatever he wants and the Left wins.

          I like Rush and I respect what Rush does more than I can say. If Rush didn’t exist, we would have to invent him. Rush is almost the indispensable man. Don’t get me wrong, as Rush says. I love Rush I love how Rush stands up for America and the American people. I love his work ethic and how Rush encourages us each to exert ourselves, to dream big, to make the most of what we have in a free country.

          I realize I just criticized Rush and it might be taken that I’m agreeing with the Left. Which I am not, not not not not. Not. 1,000 X not.

          All I really trying to say is, look at where the real action is right now, and the long-term benefits do not revolve around boycotting these companies.

          The long-term benefits of today revolve around decisively removing the LEft from office in the election of 2012. And that means Newt. And it means now.

    raven in reply to Jaynie59. | March 4, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    Superb, Jaynie59.

I exhale Carbonite and I exhale Carbonday..

Easy-Peasy deal, huh?

There are a couple of principles at work here:

1. Free Market darwinianism. Carbonite can’t compete with ordinary folks burning their files to a CD or DVD – their own, very inexpensive backup.

a. GE was in a similar mode. Now the rules coming will require citizens to buy GE technology. It would be less than a trifle to require businesses getting tax breaks to use Carbonite.

b. Carbonite is hemorrhaging cash, so its sponsorship of Rush would have to end at some point, or be reduced among the other radio talking heads. Friend used a convenient, if reprehensible moment to make good on that.

2. If left alone, the sponsors can make up their own minds to take principled stands. Instead, we get what Obama has called Private-Public Partnerships. The Tides Foundation, and other sorosian agencies, in concert with the Federal and state alphabet cops threaten doom and destruction – not of the corporate entity – but of the individuals in that company.

a. The union workers who protested a Bank of America exec (and moderate Democrat) and threatened the man’s teenage son wasn’t an accident. The unions did the same in NY and Connecticut. Personally going after a child to force the adult to act in a certain way is the wave of the Progressive Future.

b. The companies generally fund both the GOP and Democrat Party every election cycle. Through threats of dire personal consequences, donations to the GOP can be halted.

Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, Vladimir Putin, the Taliban – all use these tactics of personal destruction to suppress support of their enemies. That the Progressive Left is doing the same thing is scary as Hell, and doesn’t bode well for this great Nation of ours.

As an aside, Carbonite sells something I don’t need. I do burn CDs and DVDs backing up my own stuff. For folks who’ve computerally evolved to just an iPad, or a crackberry, Carbonite is a good thing.

    MrMichael in reply to jimzinsocal. | March 4, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    Oh Jim, if EVER I needed a Rolleyes™ emoticon… the girl isn’t HELD to a standard of civility. Rush and every right wing pundit WILL be, and if needed, the goalposts will be moved.


I just went to Carbonite’s website, and guess what. They have a 15-day FREE TRIAL. Well, free to us anyway. It still costs them money to provide the service. Of course, I would never suggest that we all sign up for free trials and then cancel them 10 days later…

The ultimate irony is going to be if Bain Capital puts pressure on Clear Channel. Although I am a longtime rush 24/7 subscriber and support him 100%, I almost wish they would, cause I can’t help thinking that the Bain connection was behind Rush’s scorching of Newt on the private equity issue. Rush is too smart not to have understood that Newt’s very specific criticisms were right. Maybe if Bain bites Rush now, Rush will wake up and realize the ramifications of the deal he made to go soft on Mitt for no reason, and to undercut Newt for no reason. Rush is big enough to survive this, cut his ties with our enemies, and FINALLY play a part in opposing these guys for whom he has carried the water for too long.

    Hope Change in reply to TJSC. | March 4, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    TJSC –

    I agree that Rush is too smart not to have understood that Newt’s criticism of Bain was not in any way a criticism of “capitalism.”

    I found that very troubling at the time.

Unfortunately the Right is uncomfortable using the same tactics as the Left. I would hate to see us sink into the same gutter many on Left dwell in however we do need to make it clear that actions have consequences.

I personally have no problem with rush apologizing – IMO he went to far once he got on a roll. I like it that he can see when he has gone too far and opened himself up to being used by the Left.

    I agree, in having no problem with Limbaugh’s apology. He goes too far in his rhetoric, and can deliver an effective message with different wording — wording that detours from direct insults.

    Jaynie59 in reply to katiejane. | March 4, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    Here’s the problem with your thinking. You make no allowance for the truth. You make no judgment about what’s right and what’s wrong.

    Sandra Fluke went before Congress under false pretenses and lied. Her premise was exactly what Rush described. A slut wanting the government to pay for her poor choices. Is it crude to tell the truth? Or does the fear of offending someone who clearly needs to be offended more important than the truth?

    Sandra Fluke is no role model and everything Rush said about her was absolutely true and was based on her own words.

    Both sides are not the same. The Left spews hate in an attempt to shut up anyone who disagrees with them and their goals. The Right tells the truth about the Left and is demonized for it to scare and silence anyone who might be swayed by the Right’s argument. THAT is the issue. When the Right agrees with the Left’s premise by caving under the weight of their attacks, they undermine everything they stand for.

    And by the way, everything the Right does is in direct response to an offensive attack by the Left. It’s only the media who takes it and twists it to fit the narrative.

      katiejane in reply to Jaynie59. | March 4, 2012 at 1:20 pm

      Sorry but IMO being crude out of a sense of righteous indignation accomplishes nothing other than giving your enemy an opportunity to gain sympathy. He didn’t have to be crude to tell the truth.

      Rein in the pretense that single women having sex makes them sluts or whores. Rush could have easily made his point by sticking to why should the rest of us pay for her personal choices WITHOUT the insult.

        Canusee in reply to katiejane. | March 4, 2012 at 2:08 pm

        Calling someone a slut is only crude because the Left just announced it was. Calling someone a c*nt is crude, as Maher did. Calling someone a d*ck is crude. But “slut”? “Slut” is the non-crude, polite way to say f***ing whore, which Fluke’s speech presented her to be, both physically and ideology. In non-crude, polite society a young lady would not talk about the normalcy of needing contraceptives to support sex eleven times a day, every day of the year for three years. Ms. Fluke was not a lady. She was crude. She presented her needs to support being a slut, and she was out whoring for money to do so. She is paid to get money to be promote the extraction of money from others–a political whore. Calling her a slut is polite; not anywhere close to her crudeness.

          Canusee in reply to Canusee. | March 4, 2012 at 2:10 pm

          Oh, and Ms. Fluke was not embarrassed by publicly discussing such personal behavior…..not a blush or stammer out of her.

        aguyfromjersey in reply to katiejane. | March 4, 2012 at 4:04 pm

        But the president called her and said her parents should be proud of her (being a slut?) I know I would be proud in my daughter if she was so sexually active she had to spend #1,000.00 a year to provide for her “Health” care

Joan Of Argghh | March 4, 2012 at 12:39 pm

Yes, I do quibble with the good Prof. on this point. He gave in on the grounds of perceived propriety. Rush possibly gave in because he has a large staff of people he cares about and pays well.

Just the other day I defended Chas. Blow’s right to say what he wants to– crass as it was– and I’m glad I did. It gives me free rein to support Rush in his speech, and even his manner of it. Do we have free speech or just freedom of speech that isn’t banned in Boston?

Also, this website is full of links to a Dem website with a petition against Rush. Did anyone here actually go there and see? This effort is HUGE, well-funded, and coordinated at a national level. There is BIG money behind this attack.

I’m afraid that the Old Guard of Conservatism is doomed to their propriety, much good may it do them all. We were politely asleep in our comforts, hurtling down the tracks of Progressivism, and now that the train is headed for the abyss, we want to wake up and say, “Oh, I say, do be careful not to curse at the switchman!”

Eff that. We’ve been pulled, slowly but surely in small degrees over the midpoint. Somebody give me a shout and say “Hell NO!” Anybody. Bueller?

    FX Phillips in reply to Joan Of Argghh. | March 5, 2012 at 9:08 am

    Have to agree with you Joan.

    The old guard conservative are so caught up in their “moral rectitude” that they can’t even fight back in an existential struggle.

    Cut loose the cowards they only inhibit us.

    I would have preferred Limbaugh didn’t apologize as he does what he always reminds us not to do “Don’t accept the premise”. I support his apology if helps him feel better about the whole situation however he needs to double down on the intellectual dishonesty of this women and all those who have championed this harpy in the assault on our basic God given rights.

@Juba Doobai!, I understand, damned auto correct!

Otherwise I have cancelled my four year Carbonite subscription and as I type this ZipCloud is starting it’s backup of my MacBook Pro.

Mr Friend, again, you want to be principled so be it. You better pray your parachute is not lead because your time at the company is limited.

Excellent post. Thank you Bill. I linked you to this…

Just sent an email to them canceling my subscription and telling them why. I am sick of these liberals trying to silence conservatives. I bet by tomorrow there will be a backlash against carbonite!

Some things never change. Limbaugh blowhard calls a woman a slut and prostitute and all of his supporters rush to defend him and blame liberals. No wonder the GOP is such a mess. Another promising blog down the drain.

    SmokeVanThorn in reply to wodiej. | March 4, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    You should boycott Legal Insurrection forever.

    ohiochili in reply to wodiej. | March 4, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    Please try not to be such a wiener-head. — Dave Barry

    theduchessofkitty in reply to wodiej. | March 4, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    Then, butt-out and don’t come back!

    It’s your privilege, after all.

    Hope Change in reply to wodiej. | March 4, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    Hi wodiej –

    Why down the drain? This blog is the best blog evah.

    Your presence here has been a great benefit, I think.

    This is the same thing the Left is always trying to do — get other people fighting over cultural issues. THIS IS CHICKEN FEED.

    They’re taking away your liberties! Your children are likely to live in poverty! The STATE will tell you whether you can have a life-saving operation and the answer will be”no” if you’re over the age of 60. Obama or his minions will have the power of life and death over you, your grandparents, your children!!

    Are you seriously going to turn your back on each other over this Contraceptive Controversy?????

    Ms. Fluke and her pretended sexual and financial problems? This is a set up.

    Pelosi must watch in awe as the dominoes fall, amazed that it still works, again! Again!

    Please let’s realize that whatever our differences, we are the ones trying to fix the badly-damaged structure of our government. For our country, that we love.

    And we AGREE about that.

    WE AGREE about that.

    alex in reply to wodiej. | March 4, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    I thought Rush was an idiot to call her a slut, which if you read the transcript was part of an example of having govt take care of everything, he used this as a bad example.

    But he apologized, and I accept it, I don’t really like Rush, but I will defend him, he apologized, where the hell is the apology or even minute outrage from ABC, NBC, or CNN or SeeBS when Hillary was called a “white whore”, Palin a “c(nt”, or Meg whitman, NOW was ok with calling her a whore.

    In my opinion no woman should be called these disgusting things, but it appears its ok for women who are in the left’s way to be called everything digusting and the Barry MSM is ok with it, and only selectively gets outraged. And to me as a pro-choice independent IS BULL$HIT!

[…] Rush and his listeners, how much longer before Chapter 7? Try Mozy suggested by Ragspierre. Assholes, Dumbasses, FAIL, Gutless PussiesPermalink ← A Slut, But Not A […]

Looks like Carbonite has some ethical problems.

“Amazon review controversy

Carbonite reviews on Amazon were a subject of controversy in early 2009. Apparently, employees of the company posted favorable testimonial-style ads on Amazon in 2006, including those by senior members of the management team.[52] Additionally, the New York Times reported that the CEO was made aware of the situation in September 2008 but did nothing to remove the false postings until the NY Times blog appeared in January 2009.” {From Wkipedia]

Spot on Professor. How about a “Twitter bomb” from our side to explain the situation to Carbonite?

They’ve heard from me and I’ve voted with my wallet- I signed up for service with a competitor.

BTW: I second Jaynie59. Every word!

Newt delivers smack down and and stays on issue, it’s a beutiful thing to watch:

    Samuel Keck in reply to Say_What. | March 4, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    That’s a wonderful clip; like AB, Newt is too smart and well informed to buy into the specious premises that consistently frame the left wing narrative.

    MaggotAtBroadAndWall in reply to Say_What. | March 4, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    I was cheering at my TV when I watched it as it aired this morning. Newt is a stud.

    samsmom1 in reply to Say_What. | March 4, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    Love it when newt smacks them down!! Wish he was the nominee right now that was ahead in the polls! Wouldnt a debate between him and obambi be great fun to watch!

    LukeHandCool in reply to Say_What. | March 4, 2012 at 2:09 pm

    Thanks for the link. Beautiful. Newt gets it.

    Yes, you need a good defense. But you have to keep going on offense to score points.

    Too often conservatives think they just need to perfect their defense … tinkering here and there.

    You have to go on offense! Please, conservatives. Learn from Newt and Andrew!

    Scorpio51 in reply to Say_What. | March 4, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    Thanks for the link to Newt’s smack down.

    I just love him and wish he was the front runner.

I agree with the Prof. that Rush should have apologized, and also that the apology should have been accepted. It’s more than inconsistent to tolerate Ed Schultz but not Rush.

Rush Limbaugh likes to get hold of the daily news, and make long, often interesting commentary, that he winds up into a zinger. How you get from the story to the zinger is a lot of the attraction of the show. What happens next is that the zinger is the ONLY thing that gets reported. When that happens, it makes him sound like a raving lunatic.

The reporting on Rush Limbaugh looks remarkably like a Mitt Romney attack ad: The Romney camp will take a detailed answer a difficult question, and then edit it to the point of delivering a false impression. Part of this is hostility, and part of it is the media thirst for sound bites. They are pressed for time, and they’ll take a sound bite that gives a false impression faster than a true one, because then they can say it’s “controversial.”

Rush Limbaugh isn’t going to change. But if you find yourself agreeing with him, then you have to post the context for the zinger. Otherwise, you WILL be misunderstood.

I don’t use Carbonite because I don’t like their security model. More importantly, though, I have a slight issue with this: “It is time to take a stand against the left-wing tactic of going after advertisers.”

That’s merely one facet of standard left-wing aggression. Their entire approach is (selective) outrage and intimidation. It’s not just advertisers. They go after anyone and everyone who dares to go against them. Remember Joe the Plumber?

I’m not saying that standing up to them when they go after advertisers is bad. It’s just the tip of the iceberg, though. The question is, is that the best fight to pick with them?

I don’t actually know. It’s just a thought.

HollywoodNeoCon | March 4, 2012 at 1:35 pm

Ms. Magazine has launched a campaign do do just that by going after Clear Channel Communications, whose stations carry Rush’s program.

Rush will survive this controversy…

He will indeed survive, and Mizzzzzzzz Magazine is free to screech and wail at Clear Channel until they’re blue in the face. The fact of the matter is that Rush owns his show lock, stock and barrel. He is employed by NOBODY, to the extent that he kicks a piece of his pie to Clear Channel in exchange for distributing his show to their stations.

Clear Channel isn’t the biggest player in radio by a long shot, so they (as well as any “concerned advertiser”) would be very foolish to believe Limbaugh couldn’t jump ship tomorrow and take the largest, loyalest radio audience in broadcasting to a hungry competitor.

Sandra Fluke, tar baby.

That was her role, but there were other players. Pelosi, Obama, and the whole Collective.

Her statements were so outrageously false and wrong, they constituted a giant rhetorical hanging pitch.

All Rush did is knock it out of the park…which is his forte and his nature to do.

We all learned from this…or we all should. This is how they play. Which is to say, “dirty”. That means we have to play HARD, which is NOT dirty.

    Canusee in reply to Ragspierre. | March 4, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    @Ragspiere you finish with, “That means we have to play HARD, which is NOT dirty.” I add we will also pay for our own contraceptives when we do play as you describe…

Henry Hawkins | March 4, 2012 at 1:46 pm

My company has four locations and a total of 19 computers, all backed up by Carbonite. That will end tomorrow when I get to my office.

    LukeHandCool in reply to Henry Hawkins. | March 4, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    Give ’em ‘ell, ‘Enry!

    MaggotAtBroadAndWall in reply to Henry Hawkins. | March 4, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    Good. I hope you make it clear you are cancelling to protest their withdrawl of advertising support for Rush and NOT because you are offended by what Rush said.

      Henry Hawkins in reply to MaggotAtBroadAndWall. | March 4, 2012 at 9:34 pm

      I’ve already written the email, and need to get to my office Monday morning before I send it. I wrote that I honored Carbonite’s right to advertise where they wish, but that I could not believe or support their stated reasons for pulling ads from Limbaugh, ostensibly because of his calling the Fluke woman a slut, when they did not do the same when Ed whatshisname called Laura Ingraham a slut, i.e., that I would not help to finance Carbonite’s choice to practice politics, especially in a hypocritical manner.

    Great news.

The only reason Limbaugh should have apologised was in order to save sponsors. The parasite is a prostitute as is any woman who wants another person to pay for her to have sex. The fact she also wants to shred the Constitution in the process makes her a useful idiot as well.

Fluke is a prostitute.


MaggotAtBroadAndWall | March 4, 2012 at 1:53 pm

Carbonite said in the 10Q, “We surpassed 100,000 subscribers in 2008, 500,000 subscribers in 2009, and 1,000,000 subscribers in early 2011. Today we have subscribers in more than 100 countries, with 94% of our subscribers based in the U.S.” Obviously, at least so far, this has been a very high growth company.

The irony is that, from the prospectus associated with the IPO they did in August, they say they rely heavily on advertising to acquire those new subscribers. So they just withdrew advertising support for the guy whose audience is the largest in all of television and radio?

At least in the short term, they probably did more to hurt their business by withdrawing advertising support from Rush than anything we hope to accomplish by cancelling subscriptions.

    William A. Jacobson in reply to MaggotAtBroadAndWall. | March 4, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    Considering how unprofitable they are and how their subscriber base has grown rapidly, sounds like one of those “we make it up on volume” stories!

      1. Caveat: the number of CARB shares that nominal insiders have bought in the last six months is almost triple the number of shorted shares.

      2. Apparently big companies like Amazon and Google are entering the cloud storage business. It’s conceivable that Carbonite could sell out to one of them at a good price without ever making a profit.

      3. Some weeks ago I encouraged the Gingrich bandwagon riders among LI commenters to register at Intrade and back up their talk. In that vein, I invite the voluble commenters who deprecate Carbonite’s prospects to short the stock—or, alternatively, to start talking sense, preferably about the economy and national debt.

        gs in reply to gs. | March 4, 2012 at 3:29 pm

        NB: I have no problem with a Carbonite boycott. I have a problem with wishful thinking during an election campaign that is more important than most.


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    theduchessofkitty in reply to raven. | March 4, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    This is giving me an idea.

    There should be at least one Conservative bombshell woman who could perform a Lady Godiva-like stunt to make the point that Conservatives buy products, too – and can withdraw OUR MONEY at any time.

    (Please – not Ann Coulter!)

Just let all of these advertisers know that you will not be able to pay for their products because you are going to have to be spending that money to pay for all of these girls’ birth control pills…..

For those who are going to cancel their Carbonite services look here for alternatives.

I signed up for BackBlaze the moment I heard about Carbonite pulling their ads. Once my initial backups are complete, I will pull the plug on Carbonite and let them know why I did. I wonder if they know just how many of their customers — and potential customers — know of their product solely via Rush Limbaugh? Rush will have no problem finding other advertisers, but Carbonite will be lucky to find as loyal a customer base as that which regularly listens to Rush Limbaugh’s radio show.

theduchessofkitty | March 4, 2012 at 3:23 pm

Let’s think here for a moment. Do you (home user) honestly believe that your personal, private data will be safe with an external service from somewhere else to back up your data? (I totally understand that businesses need to back up their data at a different location, but I’m talking to home-based users here.)

You can buy external hard drives for back-up anywhere nowadays – even those in the terabyte range. (I found one 5 TB eternal hard-drive for sale at Amazon). Backing up at your home is easy.

Why the heck do you need Carbonite?

Dump Carbonite – and tell them you’re doing it for Rush!

If you’re looking for alternatives to Carbonite, you’re asking the wrong question. You should ask “what should my backup strategy be?”

There are two basic elements to backup: risk management and time management. Most people, unless they’re doing video editing, generate a trickle of data each day, so I’m not addressing big data users, nor am I addressing people with high security needs. Note, though, that while *some* of your data might need to be secured, it’s unlikely that *all* of it does. If you’re paranoid, it’s probably better to have lots of innocuous crap out there anyway.

The most basic technique in time management is to do nothing. We now have many competing cloud-based services that are already backed up for you, so while I don’t advocate putting *everything* on them, put as much as you possibly can. The marginal consequences of losing data are still generally higher than the marginal consequences of someone snooping on you. This means using your online webmail, your address book, your calendar, etc. Right there, you’ve got 80% of the stuff you need on a daily basis backed up.

If you can push most of your critical documents to a service like DropBox or its competitors, you’re now pushing 95%. And if you’re the typical user, you’re either paying nothing so far, or a fairly modest fee, and your documents are immediately available at all times from any networked computer.

If you can get most of your applications through an app store of some sort, I strongly recommend it. You get all your applications backed up for free. All you lose are your preferences if you have to start from scratch. Sure, I personally build some stuff from scratch, but I’m write software for a living, and only build stuff that I’m actually using. I _love_ the App Store, and I use both Apple’s and the Ubuntu Software Center for Linux. I don’t have to track serial numbers or watch for updates or any of that BS, and all my apps are completely backed up for free.

We’re now at 100% for getting our day to day stuff back up and running if our computer dies, and so far we haven’t spent a dime.

Your archived data might be quite a few gigabytes, especially if you have lots of movies, music, photos, etc. Archived doesn’t mean it’s not important, it may be family photos, it just means it doesn’t change very often, and it’s too big to put online. The risks are hardware failure or catastrophic failure such as fire, theft, etc. Mitigating those risks basically means keeping a copy off-site.

The most practical solution is simply this: get a network attached storage (NAS) device for your home network; you’ll want to spend a bit of time looking up what it is, and reviewing alternatives. Get way more space than you think you need; it’s cheap. This achieves centralization of your archived data.

Then you need an equivalently sized portable-ish USB drive. Every four months or so, you’ll want to wipe the external drive and copy everything from the NAS to the external drive.

What you’ll notice here is that there is *no* monthly fee, just a few hundred bucks for a NAS device, an equivalent sized external drive, and a safe place to put it outside your home. You’ll want to toss the NAS and external drive after six years or so. At this point, your house can burn down, and you can buy new hardware and get everything back in a few days.

    Hope Change in reply to scooby509. | March 4, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    HI scooby509 — thank you for setting all that our so clearly.

    I really appreciate you taking the time. I hadn’t thought about it that way before.

    I learned a lot and it gave me a lot to think about. Thanks.

I’ve bought products from ProFlowers and its affiliates several times a month for years, but I instructed them today to close my accounts because I won’t buy from them again.

Re Carbonite The below was sent 3-4-2011. Waiting for a Credit Memo.
To: Customer Service & Management
I subscribed to your service because of your advertising on Limbaugh. Clearly you have the right change advertising however you see fit. But, your continued support MSMBC’s Ed Shultz, who has said far worse about conservative women – means that you have chosen sides.
My choice is therefore is to close my Carbonite Account now. Refund should be made directly to the Discover card on file.
As soon as the account is closed you are directed to delete all files now otherwise backed up in your system.
Dudley Williams.
It is such a shame that you guys got gamed by the left and their professional Astroturf.
CC: Email List

All these sponsors leaving Limbaugh exemplifies the snowball effect of how quickly people clump together to leave a sinking ship.

If you don’t leave, or at least chastise Limbaugh, will that mean that you approve of what he calls women? That’s the problem, nobody wants to be left holding the bag of “omission,” if and when this question crosses a woman customer’s mind.

    theduchessofkitty in reply to tsr. | March 4, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    He wasn’t calling ALL WOMEN “sluts” – he was calling THAT CHICK (she’s no “woman”) a “slut”.

    That’s the difference!

    As for that alone, she deserved every single letter of it. Someone who wants others (in this case, THE TAXPAYER) to pay for her sexual escapades is worth of be called worse, but that one is enough.

    We are NOT her “johns” nor her pimps. We the People simply say “NO!” to her.

    MQ in reply to tsr. | March 4, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    What do you call a woman in this case, who is asking, strike that, demanding others to pay for her sexcapades? A lady?

      jdkchem in reply to MQ. | March 4, 2012 at 6:27 pm

      Like carbonite she is a prostitute. Though it seems rather unfair to associate either with actual prostitutes.

Yowzah, the Lefties are trying to enlist “digital goddess” Kim Kommando in their crusade:

She summarizes the mail she has received about the Limbaugh kerfuffle, then writes:
“… I know that some of the comments directed at me have come from long time listeners to my program. I appreciate them all.

But many others are not my listeners. Rather, they are individuals who have been motivated by commentators, bloggers and others with a particular political agenda. It is therefore clear that there is an on-going attempt to use me and my program as leverage to bring further pressure upon Rush Limbaugh.

I also do not believe that, “as a woman,” I should be particularly offended at Mr. Limbaugh’s comments. If you perceive a situation as tasteless or offensive, it matters not who or what you are.

Whether or not you listen to her show, Kim’s opinion is about this matter is very sensible.

Stephen Macklin | March 4, 2012 at 4:53 pm

This is the message Carbonite got from me:

I am writing to inform you that I have suspended the automatic renewal of my subscription that was scheduled for April 19, 2012. By which time I will have secured alternate back-up services and will allow my account to lapse.

I do this because I am deeply disappointed by the actions your company has taken with regard to removing its advertising from the Rush Limbaugh show. Your decision to cooperate with a coordinated effort to silence political discourse, whether through your agreement with that cause or your lack of courage to maintain your originally professed neutral position, is not something I wish to support.

Unfortunately, this country elected a anti-American President. The Black Liberation Communist Theology of Rev Wright, the Marxist philosophy of Saul Alinsky, the constant defaming of Israel and the anti-American mouth pieces like Wasserman Schultz who attack with “conquer and divide” are traitors living in this country.
This being a FACT- Wasserman Schultz and her like minded communist anti-american mouth pieces will never go away until the real PATRIOTIC AMERICANS get a “BACKBONE” and PUSH-BACK twice as hard as these communist sympathizers expound with their “conquer and divide” philosophy bent on destroying “CONSERVATIVE VOICES”.
Did Obama call the Brian Terry family? Did Obama call the families of the AMERICAN SOLDIERS MURDERED by Muslims using the Koran burning as an excuse? Did Obama call Benjamin Netanyahu and apologize for LYING about supporting Israel when he wanted the Jewish vote to get elected?
And regarding discourse– REMEMBER THIS from the mouth of OBAMA- “they bring a stick, we’ll bring a knife, they bring a knife, we’ll bring a gun”.
You liberal progressive anti-americans brought this SOCIALISTIC mentality fight to those of us who disagree with your Communist-Socialist-Marxist vision for America. You don’t really care about what Limbaugh said. You don’t care about college students and their sex lives. You don’t care about women’s rights. YOU ONLY CARE ABOUT EXTINGUISHING CONSERVATIVE PATRIOTIC VOICES.
The line is drawn in the sand. The Communist-Socialist-Marxist MAIN STREAM MEDIA WHO DISTORT WITH LIES EACH AND EVERY NIGHT the TRUTH about OBAMA and the Wasserman Schultz’s of the DEMOCRAT PARTY have not accomplished the following:
“They have not EXTINGUISHED the voices of those Americans who will stand and take a bullet for AMERICA”- as compared to you LIBERAL-PROGRESSIVE-COMMUNIST- MARXIST “America haters” who would CRAWEL BACK UNDER THE ROCK YOU CAME FROM to show your patriotic selves.

LukeHandCool | March 4, 2012 at 5:07 pm

From Riehl World:

An FEC search reveals several political donations from a David Friend at the same specific street address. This page lists two donations totalling $300 for that individual to The broader record for the same individual, (use search here) David Friend, at that address includes donations to the campaigns of Howard Dean, Democracy for America, Texans for Truth, Tony Knowles, John Kerry, Matthew Flynn and America Coming Together, as well as Gore/Lieberman. Here is one example, all data public and available via search, or links.

Nobody even blushed at the disgusting anti-Catholic performance at the grammys. While I do think Rush was an ass for saying what he did, that performance was uttery vile and offensive. I also find Obama’s (and Sandra Fluke’s) treatment of the Catholic conscience offensive.

it is time that these liberal-run companies to listen to the gospel of The 20 Million Rush listeners. In this day and age, when everybody does cloud-based applications, Carbonite is one little pissant in a field full of ant-eaters. CEO’s who cannot understand that businesses do not thrive based upon political views, will find that political propaganda is a two-way street.

Pro-Flowers is another weakling in an easily entered business field. Rush has the economic power strength of brand to start his own internet flower business that would crush these johnny-come-lately clowns in a New York minute. I can see it now – Rush Flowers . . .

Joan Of Argghh | March 4, 2012 at 5:22 pm

I am dead set against the tactic of targeted boycotts used as a means of suppressing speech. . .

I am dead set against purchasing anything from sponsors that do not support my ideals. It has nothing to do with suppressing speech and everything to do with rewarding desired behavior. Were I a big industry, say, like the MSM, I would do things and say things and support things that bring in the most money. (In this case,likely, the most money from Soros). I may or may not see principles as a factor in my business decisions. And I’d wonder, after reading a bit more about Carbonite, I would have to ask who has called them up and offered an influx of cash if they’ll allow themselves to be an example to the rest?

But that’s just crazy talk. Businesses don’t work that way, right? They don’t feel pressure to act politically, do they? The excellent video at that link pretty much sums up what’s happening in corporate culture right now.

What Limbaugh failed to acknowledge in his apology, is that he lied about the content of Fluke’s testimony in order to make his point. Blogs like this and others on the far right nutzoid spectrum fail to inform their readers of this fact and keep their hating, low-information readers in the dark and encourage them to join Limbaugh’s sick slavering over imagining a video of this young woman having sex. Keep at it. We’ve figured you out. And when Obama wins by a landslide this fall, y’all have only yourselves to thank. Thanks, Rush Limbaugh, Representative Blunt, Santorum and the rest of you medievalists for galvanizing thinking women voters all over the country. Yer a bunch of sick puppies, for sure.

    LukeHandCool in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    I used to be a lefty. I understand your self-delusion.

    As for “hating,” how many tweets have you sent out celebrating Andrew Breitbart’s death? Hmmm?

    See Democrat Mickey Kaus’s latest column about the hate-filled tweets and posts from the left and how he compares them with the same when Tony Snow died.

    And then there’s Tammy Bruce, former president of the LA chapter of NOW, (I guess she’s a “thinking woman,” no?) who recalled a lefty friend coming by her house when Reagan died with a bottle of champagne …

    … what a charming bunch of people.

      Hampton in reply to LukeHandCool. | March 4, 2012 at 7:00 pm

      But you still don’t acknowledge the fact that Limbaugh lied about Flukes testimony. His whole schtick turns on a lie, sweetie, and so does yours.

      Laughing at you…

        LukeHandCool in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 7:40 pm

        “But you still don’t acknowledge the fact that Limbaugh lied about Flukes testimony.”

        What? I never said I listen to Limbaugh. I heard Fluke and it was immediately obvious she was full of it. If you are so obtuse that you couldn’t discern that she was all for show …. wow! You buy her sob stories? Seriously? I mean, come on. Yeah, yeah you’re “laughing at [me]” but (giggle) you really didn’t (heehee) buy a single (haha) farfetched (giggle) thing she (teehee) said, did you?

        I mean … I’ve seen some horribly bad acting in my time, but she was just awful … did you ever see Sandy Duncan try to act? Lee Majors? I mean, Hampton, sweetie, haha, come onnnnn …. who are you trying to kid?

        Don’t you have some hateful tweets you need to twit?

          Hampton in reply to LukeHandCool. | March 4, 2012 at 7:47 pm

          Truly lame response. Loser.

          Facts are disturbing, aren’t they? You’re much more comfortable in fantasy land. Have at it, sweetie.

        weffie in reply to Hampton. | March 5, 2012 at 7:45 am

        OK, I’ll take the bait. What was the factual misrepresentation in Limbaugh’s characterization of Fluke’s testimony?

    alex in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    I am a recovering liberal, and I’m a pro-choice woman, I’ve even donated a bit to planned parenthood many years ago.

    What YOU don’t seem to understand is that women like me have figured out the double standard your liberals use against women. Its ok for Meg Whitman to be called a WHORE, and NOW approves of it, and now you want to act all santimouus because Rush was stupid to use the Slut word — and I’m not a fan of Rush, but he apologized, but what stuns me if the sexism spewed out by the left against Hillary — when she was running against Barry, or Palin, oh the crap this poor woman had to endure with the entire media rooting it on.

    Keep deluding yourself, hell Rush could have called me a slut, it still will not stop me from voting ABO 2012.

    I’ve already received 3 emails from the DNC, and the DCCC about the bogeyman Rush Limbaugh, how about Obot Maher donating 1 million to Soetero, and then says he can still call Palin a “cun*” because he has no advertising to worry about. Not a peep from the Barry worshipping media.
    And right on queue, Barry plans to speak at a women’s commencement speech at Barnards, like, we’re so stupid not to see through this.

    Yes, dear, keep deluding yourself that the dems are the “party of women”!

    – a digusted EX-dem!

      ella8 in reply to alex. | March 4, 2012 at 6:40 pm

      I am a recovering liberal too. It is easy to see through the bullshit when you’ve seen it from the inside out.

        alex in reply to ella8. | March 4, 2012 at 6:45 pm

        hi ella8

        remember Harriet Chrisitian, the vitriol this poor lady got from the left I will never forget. On May 31th 2008, I knew I could no longer be a demonRat anymore. Disgusting hypocrites.

          ella8 in reply to alex. | March 4, 2012 at 6:56 pm

          I was not aware of that particular incident, but I see it all the time. The vileness of the left spills out all over the place. Even the mainstream media and television shows are bigoted. The whore Nicky Manjay’s filth of a performance at the grammy’s is a perfect example. I did not see any advertisers getting shit for that. I make no apologies for my beliefs and opinions anymore. The left is full of hypocrites. I’ve had it with politically correct bullshit.

          alex in reply to alex. | March 4, 2012 at 7:11 pm

          Ella8, sorry I didn’t post the youtube for it… here it is, Harriet went to the May 31th 2008 meeting it was the bylaws meetings where they took 4 delegates Hillary earned and gave it to Soetero, so calling this the “democratic” party is amusing to me, there’s nothing democratic about taking votes someone earned and giving to someone who didnt

          Anyways, Harriet was a Hillary supporter and pissed at this, and so she lashed out, and then cavuto on Fox News had her on to speak.

          here is one of the video, honestly, none of this has gone away for me. I will never vote for another damn demonRat again after I saw what they did, not to Hillary primaryly &solely, but to decent dems who were slapped around by the DNC! called racists, all sorts of sexist names, and the DNC, DCCC said nothing, and now want to get on their high horse and lecture voters how they are the “party of women” BULL$HIT I SAY!

    jdkchem in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    What you fail to acknowledge is that nobody cares what you think. You clowns are the epitome of un-civil dialog and do the most whining when you’re on the receiving end. You lack the integrity and courage to take responsibility for your actions. Why would anyone give you anything other than a punch in the mouth to shut you up? When you and yours can manage to hold yourselves accountable for your actions feel free to complain. Until that time have a steaming hot cup of STFU.

And I’m switching to Mozy, I have carbonite, did the idiot CEO even consider that the people he needs to worry about boycotting his company’s products are the actual customers, not some boycott started by people who don’t even use his product.

I’m cancelling Carbonite and moving to Mozy, and telling all my friends to as well!

    LukeHandCool in reply to alex. | March 4, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    I don’t use Carbonite, but I thought my older sister did. Turns out she does. I talked to her and told her this whole story. (She’s too busy to keep up on most of this stuff.)

    The good news? She promised she’ll give them a call tomorrow and cancel … and try out Mozy.

Joan Of Argghh | March 4, 2012 at 6:11 pm

My letter to ProFlowers:

Dear ProFlowers:

Ms. Fluke is a 30 y/o political activist who admits that she enrolled in a religious college, Georgetown, after studying their healthcare policy, with the stated intent of breaking them of it.

That violates MY values.

She has specifically targeted an institution for its religious conscience. That violates the values of the Bill of Rights. Further, none of her testimony has been vetted for facts or relevance. 99% of women in the U.S. already have access to Health Care.

I’m very sorry that ProFlowers has been duped to feel sympathy for a political activist that targets and attacks people of faith.

I realize the political correctness pressure you feel. You will feel more of it if you cave to this small round from Progressive shame-baiters. It is a political ploy and you are playing to it.

Best regards, etc.

    LukeHandCool in reply to Joan Of Argghh. | March 4, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    That’s good, Joan. Hope you don’t mind if I borrow it/use it as a template.

    I’m feeling lazy (it must be 80 today in LA) and my back hurts …

      theduchessofkitty in reply to LukeHandCool. | March 4, 2012 at 6:22 pm

      Can you do some stretches?

      If you feel a bit afraid of a good back stretch, sit on a chair and bring your whole torso downwards, arms forward, as if you were trying to reach out for something under the chair. Do it for about six seconds, then return to sitting straight. Repeat ten times, if you can.

      If you want to go for ten seconds, go ahead. It’s a move I learned in physical therapy a long time ago.

      Hope this helps! 🙂

        LukeHandCool in reply to theduchessofkitty. | March 4, 2012 at 6:32 pm

        Thanks, duchessofkitty! You are too cute! 🙂

        I’ll give it a try … slowly!

        I’m a bit better today. I went for a long acupressure massage and I’ve had my two little ones walking on my back.

        I’ve been taking hot baths, too. It all helps. When I’m back to normal, I’m gonna start swimming again. Nothing beats swimming!

        I had a bad hip as a child and my mom got me into swimming. I was walking again after 6 months even though the doctors thought I wouldn’t walk for 2 years and require surgery. Swimming!

        Remember Forest Gump with his leg braces? That was me! “Run, Forest! Run!”

          theduchessofkitty in reply to LukeHandCool. | March 4, 2012 at 6:43 pm


          I have a herniated disk in my lumbar spine, for which I had physical therapy. Stretching and exercising the core muscles helped me a whole lot, since nowadays I have zero pain. I do a lot of cardio – elliptical trainer or treadmill, five to six times a week. But stretching is crucial.

          I also happen to have a problem in my neck, which flared again just recently and had another MRI on it. I’m working on it.

          Since starting to take care of my spine and my health almost two years ago, I have lost 61 pounds, and counting. My spine feels better, especially since I don’t have all that weight around me. I also try to take good care of my heart: I’m on the South Beach Diet, which has helped me a lot. Unfortunately, I had to start taking HBP medication.

          LukeHandCool in reply to LukeHandCool. | March 4, 2012 at 7:05 pm

          Keep up the good work duchess!

          I’m in pretty good shape. I try to run on the beach at least once a week. I think sitting too long without stretching is what caused this … and it suddenly flared up big time. I think you’re exactly right and I’m going to start stretching every day … my joints are so stiff!

          In some ways my bad hip in my childhood was a blessing in disguise. My mom got me onto a swim team and I swam competitively through high school. Knock on wood, I haven’t needed a hip replacement … which most people who had what I had get by the age of 50.

          I credit my mom with that. She took me to the pool every day until my dad bought a house with a pool.

          If you don’t swim … give it a try … no pounding on the joints and it makes for a glorious workout.

    jdkchem in reply to Joan Of Argghh. | March 4, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    She did a Whaaaaatada. It is in the end the act of a coward.

    Hampton in reply to Joan Of Argghh. | March 4, 2012 at 7:06 pm

    “Ms. Fluke is a 30 y/o political activist who admits that she enrolled in a religious college, Georgetown, after studying their healthcare policy, with the stated intent of breaking them of it.”

    That’s a fiction, but nice try.

      theduchessofkitty in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 7:11 pm

      You defend her even though she lied before a Congressional hearing.

      The woman is what she is. Too bad there are too many “johns” defending her… She sure must be good at what she does…

      Sorry, but she’s totally indefensible. No sympathy whatsoever, or for those who support her.

      Joan Of Argghh in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 7:37 pm

      Not a fiction. She confirmed it in the Washington Post article before she testified (which was a trumped-up Dem committee, not the Congressional hearing):

      WaPo article:

      Fluke came to Georgetown University interested in contraceptive coverage: She researched the Jesuit college’s health plans for students before enrolling, and found that birth control was not included. “I decided I was absolutely not willing to compromise the quality of my education in exchange for my health care,” says Fluke, who has spent the past three years lobbying the administration to change its policy on the issue. The issue got the university president’s office last spring, where Georgetown declined to change its policy.

        Hampton in reply to Joan Of Argghh. | March 4, 2012 at 8:25 pm

        You’re reading comprehension skills are sorely lacking. This does not say that she entered Georgetown “with the stated intent of breaking” their health care policy. It says she entered in spite of it. Quite different.

        Every day, people like you prove that angry people can’t think. Close, but no cigar, sweetie. Nice try though.

          ella8 in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 8:54 pm

          Actually, studies have shown that angry people think quite clearly 🙂

          Joan Of Argghh in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 11:21 pm

          Hey HumpTon, you comprehend what you like, that looks pretty much like an intent. She knew the school, knew its religious stance, researched its policy, and decided she was going to give them $45,000 (was it her own money? a loan from an influential foundation?) and then make them change their policy to suit her. Pretty sure most thinking people have no problem understanding exactly who she is, and what she is about.

          Her own words give the lie to your disingenuous attempt at being a troll. Don’t get me wrong, you’ve succeeded mightily in the effort, if not in the outcome, Sugar Bear.

I’d like to add, I don’t even like Rush, cannot stand the man, but the freaking double standard is what I’m pissed at!

The CEO wrote “civil dialogue”, where the hell was he when his company’s ads were running on MSDNC, when Hillary was called a whore, or Ingraham (who I sort of like) was called a “slut”


who else dropped Rush? Pro-flowers? well, that’s off my list too now!

theduchessofkitty | March 4, 2012 at 6:18 pm

Have guys thought about this?

If Rush were truly dead-set against women, than why did he marry a blonde bombshell with some worthy brains? Really.

Taxpayer1234 | March 4, 2012 at 6:22 pm


I just sent the following to ProFlowers:

I recently heard about you pulling your advertising from the Rush Limbaugh Show. Though I don’t even listen to the Limbaugh program, I DO buy from you.

Until you decide to run your business according to business principles, not political ones, I will buy my floral products elsewhere.

The funny thing is, Rush will lose no audience over this. His fans are very loyal. In fact it may increase. As it does these pasty squeamish easily threatened advertisers will wish they had not succumbed to Alinsky style intimidation tactics. Screw ’em. Others, in short order, will line up to advertise on the number one National radio show. Much to the chagrin of lefties, Rush will only get stronger.

We have made so many purchases with ProFlowers. How dumb can they be to not understand that their customer base is wage earning taxpayers. Two weeks after the biggest flower holiday, they decide to pick a side over free contraception.

I’ll go to the supermarket to buy a bouquet next time I need one. They will send an email and I will give them a piece of my mind.

    Hampton in reply to Ma Kettle. | March 4, 2012 at 7:09 pm

    Ms. Fluke’s testimony had nothing to do with free contraception. The misinformed are legion…

      theduchessofkitty in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 7:17 pm

      She wants to change a policy at schools that practice their religious conscience. In other words, institutions like Georgetown will be FORCED to cater to her every little need, like some pampered clone of Paris Hilton.

      That’s why religious organizations are saying “NO!”

      That’s why people who are truly concerned about the First Amendment are saying “NO!”

      That’s why We The People can see through her smokescreen and see a callous beast underneath that body and face of hers and are saying “NO! We The People Are NOT your johns, nor your pimps, nor your concierges. If you want a “party”, it’s on YOUR DIME – not Georgetown’s, not the Church’s, and not OURS. Period.”

      Wash yourself. You stink.

      Go Rush!

        Thank you for so clearly demonstrating that you’re a hysterical nutball, “kitty.”

        Try reality sometime. You might like it.

          LukeHandCool in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 7:46 pm

          The brevity is a good first step, Hampton.

          Now add a little soul …

          … add a little wit …

          Oops. I forgot. You’re a lefty.

          Hampton in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 8:30 pm

          I bet you thought that was clever. How sad.

          If you’re going to be outraged, try basing your outrage in facts, sweetie pie.

          And if you’re going to use a picture of a young woman as your avatar, don’t be making references to Sandy Duncan and Lee Majors. You must be at least 60, and that back problem is probably due from obesity. Too much time in front of the computer being outraged and trying desperately to come up with clever retorts. You lose, honey pie.

          LukeHandCool in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 8:53 pm

          That’s my daughter in the avatar, bird brain.

          Me, obese? Wrong again. This is me:

          You know, you really suck as a troll. But what you lack in wit, humor, logic, facts, etc., you really do try to make up for with lots of meaningless posts. Nobody can take that away from you.

          ella8 in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 9:21 pm

          Luke hand cool, I have to admit I had imagined you were an old guy too, but my vision was scrawny not obese. Lol. I saw the pictures of your mom on your blog, I think we could be distantly related.

          LukeHandCool in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 9:39 pm

          Really ella8? You and me, related?

          My mom’s dad was Czech (Musil).

          Her mom was half Jewish (Hirschbein) and half French Canadian (Bookey).

          From Chicago, originally. Ring any bells? Cousin?

          We actually met one of my mom’s cousins for the first time when she heard about my mom’s funeral and showed up. She’d been living just about a mile away!

          ella8 in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 9:45 pm

          My grandmother had the same last name.

          LukeHandCool in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 9:49 pm


          Which last name?

          ella8 in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 9:49 pm

          I don’t know a lot about my great grandfather’s heritage. He was from the Bronx. I don’t know much about his early life or than branch of the family tree much at all.

          ella8 in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 9:52 pm


          LukeHandCool in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 9:59 pm

          Are you serious? It’s a rare last name.

          (I must admit, I wish it had been my mom’s side and not my dad’s. Hehe!!)

          Please stay in touch and let’s figure this out, cousin!

          When you’ve got the time, just post what you know about the geneology on my little blog there. I don’t use it much, but we can talk there. Or, here’s my email:

          [email protected]

          This is amazing! Sorry, Professor … back to politics …

I find it amusing that the Daily Kooks are boycotting Pro-Flowers, and Pro-flowers are stupid enough to fall for it.

Have they [pro-flowers] ever visited the daily kooks site? DISGUSTING! how many of those lunatics does pro-flowers think buys a thoughtful gift as flowers?

Apparently these companies don’t realise that the people calling threatening to boycott actually don’t buy anything from them, and the company is only pissing off the chunk of the population who do spend money on their products.

I do buy pro-flowers about a couple of times a month, and I will not be using them anymore, I can get the same items at Costco.

Very stupid of Pro-flowers, and very stupid of Carbonite, maybe they’ll figure out once their revenues go down that the Daily Kooks don’t have any money to spend on their products.

    LukeHandCool in reply to alex. | March 4, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    “Have they [pro-flowers] ever visited the daily kooks site? DISGUSTING! how many of those lunatics does pro-flowers think buys a thoughtful gift as flowers?”

    Well, they do seem to be something of a death cult. I mean, they seem to like to celebrate people’s deaths.

    There’s a lefty guy on the Daily Beast trying to get them all to tone it down with the tweets celebrating Andrew Breitbart’s death.

    More and more it seems that trying to argue in good faith with the hard left in this country is like the Israelis trying to deal with Hamas in good faith. We’re not at the point where the leftists are blowing themselves up over here … but a disturbing percentage of them seem to feel some glee in the death of conservative Americans. Sad. Pathetic.

    Hampton in reply to alex. | March 4, 2012 at 7:10 pm

    “I do buy pro-flowers about a couple of times a month”

    Liar. Laughing at you…

      LukeHandCool in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 7:48 pm

      Wow. First time I’ve seen you here and already you’re repeating yourself word for word. Not a good sign.

theduchessofkitty | March 4, 2012 at 7:07 pm

Well, I think we’re way beyond the “Getting mad” stage. It’s time to get even.

If you’re Mad as Hell and You Can’t Take It Anymore, then Welcome to the Revolution.

Go Breitbart!

    LukeHandCool in reply to theduchessofkitty. | March 4, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    I feel revved up and ready to rumble!

    I don’t like profanity, especially in public, (although I can swear with the best of them when I’m alone and hit my toe on the door frame) but let me just say this:

    My lefty friends, you SOBs are going down. This is for Andrew!

My Carbonite subcription is up for renewal and I will do some research and change to one of their competitors.

I notice that 7 of Limbaugh’s advertisers have cancelled. Punish them all.

Tomorrow may be the highest rated Rush Limbaugh radio show ever-

And these fools find it a sound business decision to pull their advertising before hand.

Liberalism is a mental disorder

    Hampton in reply to Browndog. | March 4, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    Ratings show that the audience for Limbaugh and Fox News is trending downward. I know you people here don’t believe in facts, but it happens to be true.

    Enjoy your delusion, though.

      theduchessofkitty in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 7:21 pm

      You are a liar, and you follow the Father of All Liars.

      As for me, I will fight back whenever and wherever I see people like you spouting your venom. I’ve had enough of people like you.

      I used to ignore stuff like this, hoping that someone else will take care of this. No more. From now on, I’m one of many who will fight back against the likes of you.

      Oh, and one more thing: Go Rush!

      And Go Breitbart!

      ella8 in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 7:22 pm

      I am not worried about winning popularity contests. If I was the last one standing, I would never go back to being a leftist. They are full of bullshit.

        ella8 in reply to ella8. | March 4, 2012 at 7:36 pm

        Also we already know that we are the Davids against Golieth. The left just loves to play the victim, but really BIG everything is already on their side. It takes more courage to stand up to peer pressure and the BULLIES. It was much easier to fit in and be cool when I was a lefty. I am much stronger than that now.

      LukeHandCool in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 7:23 pm

      “Ratings show that the audience for Limbaugh and Fox News is trending downward.”

      Haha … and MSNBC … perenially flatlined, can only go up, right? How easy it would be for them to have a 50% or 100% increase in viewers … I’ll watch together with you tonight and we’ll make it happen!

      P.S. Whatever happened to that Oberubermadd guy? Is he still around?

        Hampton in reply to LukeHandCool. | March 4, 2012 at 7:31 pm

        Say whatever you want about MSNBC. It doesn’t change the fact that ratings for Fox “News” and Limbaugh are trending downward. I know you don’t enjoy the truth. But them’s the facts, ma’am. It’s gonna get lonely in that bunker…

      Browndog in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 7:24 pm

      I can see how the word “tomorrow” escaped you, since it was so keenly hidden.

        Hampton in reply to Browndog. | March 4, 2012 at 7:33 pm

        Oh, of course, Limbaugh’s ratings will suddenly zoom above where they were years ago. They’re trending downwards, numbnut. It’s gonna be way hard to make tomorrow his best day ever. You must be homeschooled.

          theduchessofkitty in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 7:38 pm

          And you must be an arrogant jerk, who thinks Fly-over Country is made of Rednecks with no degrees.

          You have no idea about the Fury in the Heartland. The day it hits you like a freight train… poor you.

          Hampton in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 7:42 pm

          The “fury of the heartland” will be drowned out by the intelligence of the blue states. You know, the ones with actual population.

          theduchessofkitty in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 7:54 pm

          The people here in the “Red States” are breeding at a large scale. Have you seen the Duggars? There are quite a few families like them. Not to mention, religious families have more children than non-religious ones. And a lot of them are moving out of states like NY and CA for better Freedom climates, like TX.

          The future belongs to those who show up. You will lose, in the end.

          ella8 in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 8:41 pm

          Thanks to the Roe effect and your practice of self eugenics, I am quite sure the left is going to go extinct first. The only power the left has left is the Marxist scum infiltrating the public schools recruiting our children. I can testify that only works so long. I was fully indoctrinated, but ultimately I rebelled back to my roots. I am going to be filtering everything my children learn in school and teaching them to think critically in response to it.

      alex in reply to Hampton. | March 4, 2012 at 7:41 pm

      Seriously, why are any of you answering the Obot troll? Don’t you know Axel-hole in 2008 paid these people to disturb, he’s just taunting you.
      Just scroll past it. Please just scroll back the racist troll.

[…] Support the folks you’d like to see flourish. Let the ones you don’t like shrivel and die. […]

I never use any of those sponsors except for pro flowers which I use several times a year. I found an online rival which appears a good substitute:

I think that if you are not a Limbaugh subscriber now would be a good time to become one to shoe your support.

    alex in reply to clarice. | March 4, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    Costco is pretty good as well. If you have a business and need to get a couple of orders a month, Costco does have good deals. I normally used to get about 2 orders a month from Pro-flowers, but I’m switching to Costco, and with the american express card, I get a a bit of a refund as well. There are many other choices as well, the one you posted sounds good as well, I’ll check that out. Thanks.

theduchessofkitty | March 4, 2012 at 7:28 pm


I’m sorry. I know this is your forum and you won’t take any profanity or stuff, but those people really need to face our wrath, one way or another.

I don’t do boycotts either, but to have a small group of people determine who gets a livelihood or who doesn’t because of that they believe (the way Liberals are doing to Rush) is quite un-American and anti-American to me.

theduchessofkitty | March 4, 2012 at 7:32 pm

One day, you will stop laughing. I guarantee it.

LukeHandCool | March 4, 2012 at 8:04 pm

Ummmm …

“I’m laughing at you” and, let’s see … “sweetie” do not a good troll make.

Please, at least develop some kind of schtick before you go trolling. You are a huge, unimaginative letdown.

I like trolls as much as the next guy, but just like hecklers, they’re only annoying when they’re not funny.

Come on. Play the game right. There are some rules. We’ll gladly let you troll if you promise to be at least a tiny bit funny.

Show us the wit! Please!?

[…] Professor William A. Jacobson is right. “Indeed, Carbonite still advertises on the show of Ed Schultz, who makes unhinged attacks on the Tea Party and conservatives daily, and called conservative talk show host Laura Ingraham a slut (for which he later apologized). […]

I’m getting here late but do encourage you to go to
and register your disapproval with their choice. Those favoring their decision out number us at this time and it would be nice if we added more to this list. It’s quite easy once you get there.

I’ve never shorted a stock but I think I just found my first candidate. With that level of debt and their general downward trend, Carbonite looks ideal for shorting. Moreover, the days to cover the short interest is under 7 according to the last NASDAQ reports which is ideal.

Hmmm. I’ll see where it opens on Monday morning and go from there.

CostCo supports a lot of progressive candidates and causes, so by all means, purchase your flowers at CostCo!

I think Rush’s audience will indeed be huge tomorrow…and will include at least a few people from Daily Kos and other sites, listening to see which advertisements are run.

bobbelvedere | March 4, 2012 at 9:16 pm

ProFlowers is just one of several companies owned by Provide Commerce Inc.

The others: Shari’s Berries, ProPlant, Red Envelope, Cherry Moon Farms, and personalcreations.

Provide’s website is:

I have used them before [just used Cherry Hill for Valentine’s Day], but that ends now.

For what it’s worth, I have logged my complaint with both Proflowers and Carbonite. I was not a customer of Carbonite, and I never will be thx to this gutlessness. I used to buy Proflowers but Never. Again.

So sick of the left dictating what the right can and cannot say. I hope Rush refuses to take them back.

LukeHandCool | March 4, 2012 at 9:54 pm


Who would’ve thought a crappy troll like Hampton might be responsible for bringing me together with a possible relative, ella8?

Thanks, Hampton! (you dumba$$)

    Joan Of Argghh in reply to LukeHandCool. | March 4, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    Aw. . . HumpTon’s mostly harmless, as trolls go. His heart’s not really in it, though. One limp attempt after another.

    All of the terms of endearment he uses make me think he’s not getting any activity on his eHarmony account.

    Oh, wait. Maybe HumpTon is a she. Okay, ewww.

      LukeHandCool in reply to Joan Of Argghh. | March 5, 2012 at 12:09 am


      LOL! I was thinking along those same lines (eHarmony).

      Like, he’s got about 8 different windows open at the same time … 7 of them matchmaking (and less savory) sites … then he toggles to LI and is still talking steamy baby talk …

      It gets confusing when you mix romance with politics.

      Ditto on the “ewwww.” But he did bring me together with someone who appears to be a relative. I thank him for that.

I have e-mailed all of the companies listed expressing my disappointment and stating that I will no longer consider their products and will urge family and friends to do the same. I don’t usually participate in these types of efforts, but after losing Andrew Breitbart, I think we all need to do more to fill the vacuum he left. We on the right may go down, but let’s not do it quietly or without a fight.

[…] words “slut” and “prostitute” to describe Fluke, thus making Limbaugh the target of one of those online lynch mobs that Media Matters specializes in orchestrating.While everyone is focused on […]

cjharrispretzer | March 4, 2012 at 10:15 pm

For those that say Rush’s ratings are declining, I hope you know he gets paid more than almost anyone in news media. I believe his last contract was for something like $400 million, earning more than every single news person who criticizes him. So although I don’t know exactly what his ratings are day to day, I know they were high enough to justify a contract that put him in the highest eschelon of entertainers’ (especially in the news business) salaries. I am a ‘Rush Baby’ and have been listening to him since I was 16 (I’m now 39). He is my favorite and I will refuse to do business with any sponsor who drops his program. This whole thing reminds me of what happened to Dr. Laura. It was totally unfair the way she was silenced.

Competitors to Advertisers Abandoning Rush

Below is a list of 7 advertisers that abandoned the Rush Limbaugh Show followed by a list of some of that company’s competitors. This is not an endorsement.

1.Citrix (streaming visualization technology )- Competitors

(source – )

2. Quicken Loans (Home Loans, Mortgage Refinance, Mortgages) – Competitors

(source – )

3 and 4. Sleep Train and Sleep Number (mattress retailers ) – Competitors beds, direct competitor

(source Bing )


5. Carbonite (online backup) – Competitors

(source )

6. LegalZoom (online legal document services) – Competitors

(source – Google search term – online legal document services )

7. ProFlowers (order flowers online) – Competetiors

( source – Google search term – Flowers)

[…] to do business with any of the other weak spined former sponsors of Rush Limbaugh. Let’s show the jackasses the meaning of “free […]

[…] lets turn to Bill Jacobson who has a target in his sights: It is time to take a stand against the left-wing tactic of going after advertisers. Carbonite is […]

Carbonite needs to go down, quickly.

Well, I can do my fair share with Citrix. We buy several of their Netscaler appliances a year. I can just as easily by product from A10 networks. Those things go for about $20K each. Seeya, Citrix!

Meant “buy” even. Sheesh.

Everyone switching companies, remember — when you order flowers elsewhere or an alternative to carobonite or shari’s berries, SEND THE RECEIPT to who you dissed.

You know, I was getting so sick and tired of the Pro-flower and carbonite commercials. The used the same ones over and over and over and often I would switch the station just to not hear AGAIN. And then I would get stuck in a song and not return to Rush….So, this could be good for Rush. His advertisers were actually driving us away and now I will be back full time. Surely, I am not the only one who was irritated? I look forward to new advertising commercials.

Hmmm…so you are going to protest the Kossacks ‘detestable tactics’ of going after advertisers by…..

…..going after advertisers yourselves.


Considering that Limbaugh is the most popular radio station on the air, I don’t think stations will have a hard time finding local advertisers if the nationals don’t buy time.

There I go again … most popular radio SHOW.

[…] pushing that dishonest notion — and raising money from it.  As William A. Jacobson put it, zeroing in on the talk show host’s language, “the use of “slut” or “prostitute” even in an analogy was inappropriate, as Rush […]

Does Carbonite have an answer as to why I would store my personal information with a company that would roll over so easily to political pressure?