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Do. Not. Get. Me. Started.

Do. Not. Get. Me. Started.

From Byron York, Conservatives urge Romney not to attack Santorum:

Mitt Romney met privately with a group of conservative activists and opinion leaders Thursday, on the eve of his speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington.  In a wide-ranging discussion, a number of participants urged Romney to refrain from attacking rival Rick Santorum with the scorched-earth intensity that he directed at Newt Gingrich.

Awe, isn’t that nice.

Now, with Santorum the man of the moment, Romney joked that it is time to get the oppo research up and running again.  He quickly added: No, no, I’m only kidding.

But Romney’s remarks suggested he wasn’t entirely kidding.  “He said Rick has to be held up to the same scrutiny as everyone else,” says one meeting participant.  (This account is based on conversations with three people who were in the room.)

You’ll get yours, Ricky.

Romney told the group that the attacks on Gingrich were not his doing but rather the work of the super PAC that works on Romney’s behalf but not under his control.

There you go.  Now you’ve done it.

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“Romney told the group that the attacks on Gingrich were not his doing but rather the work of the super PAC that works on Romney’s behalf but not under his control”

sounds like an obama rationale to me.

I’m not at all sure that a Santorum/Romney collaboration is out of the question.

Jes’ sayin…

Politics ain’t beanbag. I don’t know why there are so many Pollyanna-ish “conservatives” who don’t seem to comprehend this fact.

“You’ll get yours, Ricky”….and your little dog too!

Oh wait, will someone see if we still have that dog crate?

    Not the dog. Leave the (proverbial) dog out of it. (Though we all know that Mitt has zero compassion for canines).

    Mittens is a chickensh*t and a bully. He also has an eye for business using Santorum to undermine Newt and use him as a proxy to attack Newt. Santorum and Romney will take it any way they can get it: no honor.

      Astroman in reply to KGeorge. | February 10, 2012 at 10:56 pm

      You Newt supporters really are unhinged. You can say a lot of things about Santorum, but he has been by far the most positive honorable person in this campaign. Far more so than Romney or Newt.

Romeny is called a ‘wimp,’ no fire in the belly, when he keeps his attacks above-board. And, when he does aim his sights on his opponents, then he is shot down as being vicious and applying a scorched earth tact.

This is a contest! Isn’t it encumbent upon candidates to bring up their opponents flaws, weaknesses, while waving the flags around their own strengths? If Romney wins the nomination (and that is getting to be a bigger ‘if’ by the day), isn’t that what people want him to do with Obama — to go after his record, no holds barred?

    Joy in reply to tsr. | February 10, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    Many of us don’t think of Romney as a “wimp” because we know how he likes to pretend that he is Mister-sweet- and-pure while having others viciously attack and smear his opponents….we prefer to use a more accurate term for him….liar.

    Astroman in reply to tsr. | February 10, 2012 at 10:58 pm

    Romney is like McCain in that he will only attack conservatives.

    If Romney ends up the candidate, he will put on the mittens, er, kid gloves when he campaigns against Obama (just like McCain did).

Too many-

WAAY too many times….

If you deleted the name, when it comes to what Romney has said/done..

You’d most assuredly know that was Obama.

Problem: No one likes you.

Solution: Spend tens of millions to make them hate the other guy even more than they hate you.

Result: Everyone stays home and Obama gets a second term.

Observation: Romney sucks.

@Same Same – 1000 TUs

Newt’s speech was fabulous. Many standing ovations. A modified version of the speech I saw on Monday night.

And Andrew Breitbart dropped a bomb: He’s got college info about Obama. Woo hoo, heads are going to explode on the Left.

    Hope Change in reply to Tamminator. | February 10, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    Tamminator – I agree. I thought Newt’s speech was excellent. It seems the audience was giving standings os for much of it. What speech did you see on Monday night?

    I posted this at Humbly Yours. Here in case you didn’t see it.

    Hope Change | February 10, 2012 at 5:59 pm
    Say_What. I so agree.

    I took some notes. Not comprehensive. got to watch the speech.

    Newt’s 2012 CPAC speech:

    Goal: most prosperous, safest, most successful nation on planet.


    Newt helped create jobs before — with Reagan, 16 million, 4 years in the 90′s with Clinton, 11 million. Maximize economic growth to create most dynamic economy on the plant.


    How?


    1. eliminate capital gains tax. 0%

    2. 100% expensing for best equipment at every level & most modern workforce in the world. Unemployment, get education, best workforce in the world.

    3. replace EPA with an Environmental Solutions Agency where the primary requirement is COMMON SENSE. No more being dictatorial to American People.

    4. 21st Century Food & Drug Administration — goal to be in the labs, accelerate getting medicines and new medical technologies to the people & create new jobs and a worldwide market for better medicines

    5. 12.% Corporate tax rate, same as Irish rate, will bring home $700 billion currently overseas, and even General Electric will pay taxes.

    6. Abolish the Death Tax. It’s immoral.

    7. Flat income tax of 15%, OPTIONAL. It’s NOT revenue neutral. MSM will howl. It’s not meant to be revenue neutral. It’s to maximize economic growth. It’s a TAX CUT.

    8. Cut government spending to match tax revenues. Balance federal budget. Jobs will increase. Unemployment will decrease. At 4.2% unemployment, Social Security is safe for a generation.

    9. Reform antiquated, 1930′s-style Federal Bureaucracies. Lean Six Sigma, introduce continuous improvement processes. Strong American Now estimates we’ll save $5 billion per year. Let good federal workers really do their jobs.

    10. Abolish the department of Energy, which suppresses the production of Energy in America.

    11. Use fraud protection methods of Visa, Master Card, American Express to STOP PAYING THE CROOKS in Medicare and other federal programs. Save a trillion dollars in ten years.

    12. Implement the return of power to individuals, local communities and states through the 10th Amendment. Governor Perry is working on the language for the proposed legislation and will chair the committee.

    13. American Energy. Goal, $2.00 gasoline. North Dakota has 25 times (not 25%) — 25 times more oil than the U. S. Geological Survey predicted. Free Market & supply and demand developing American Energy. we want to ensure that no American president will ever again bow to a Saudi King.

    14. Once the budget is balanced and unemployment is back down, the Social Security is safe for a generation. The Trust Fund is there even if Obama has no trust.

    15. Audit the Federal Reserve. We will find out who got the taxpayer’s money and why. Ben Bernanke: if Bernanke has not resigned by the time Newt is sworn in, Newt will ask the Congress to pass legislation ending Bernanke’s term. Lew Lehrman and Jim Grant have agree to co-chair the new Commission on Gold.

    16. Re-balance the powers of the THREE CO-EQUAL branches of government. There is a 54-page paper at Newt.org on re-balancing the judiciary with the other two branches of the federal government.

    17. Foreign Policy – peace through a strong and vital America.

    18. Although running as a Republican nominee, Newt will run an AMERICAN campaign.

    — if you want for your family paychecks, not food stamps. join us.

    — If you want strength and a vibrant economy, join us — from every neighborhood and background, join us.

    — If you believe in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the Federalist Papers, we want you to be with us.

    Obama believes in Saul Alinsky. Leave that to those who believe in it.

    We’re putting together a conservative Dream Team.

    We need to teach the Republican Establishment a lesson.

    This can only be done with your help. This is people power.

    We will restore and rebuild America.

    +*+*++*+++*+++*+++*+++*+++*+++*+++*+++*+++*+++*

    My friends, THIS is the election. If Newt wins this primary, Newt will win the general election.

    The Establishment, who run the money, and think they run us, don’t want to be taught a lesson.

    If you think you might support Newt, explore the issues.

    Because this is a huge showdown between the People and the Establishment. Now.

    I you’re trying to decide, investigate for yourself. The power is yours.

    “2012: VICTORY OR DEATH”

    http://newtgingrich360.com/profiles/blogs/2012-victory-or-death-newt-s-speeches-links-to-17-speeches

    AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM: LIFE, LIBERTY & THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS 

http://newtgingrich360.com/profiles/blogs/newt-life-liberty-the-pursuit-of-happiness-18-speeches-interviews

      Hope Change in reply to Hope Change. | February 10, 2012 at 6:55 pm

      I don’t not know why but the link above is not working. This one is working, I believe.

      http://newtgingrich360.com/profiles/blogs/newt-life-liberty-the-pursuit-of-happiness-18-speeches-interviews

      Tamminator in reply to Hope Change. | February 10, 2012 at 7:33 pm

      Hope Change:
      Newt was in Minnesota on Monday night before the Tuesday caucuses. I went to see him.

      The speech was very similar, but he had improved it since Monday.

      Does anyone here know that Santorum’s speech mocked Newt because of the time he’d said “I give my life, treasure and sacred honor” ??

      I caught the dig right away because Newt had used that phrase on Monday night. That was the only nasty part of Santorum’s speech that I noticed.

        Hope Change in reply to Tamminator. | February 10, 2012 at 11:47 pm

        Hi Tamminator — I wonder if the Monday night speech is available anywhere online.

        Newt often repeats the solutions in his campaign speeches. It makes sense to me that the CPAC speech was a very comprehensive example of the speech Newt often gives.
        Newt wants us to understand the solutions. For myself, I appreciate it, because it’s an interesting way for me to learn what the plans are and what I might be able to do to help.

        Tamminator, I heard Newt say at the end of the speech after the Florida primary that he pledges his life, his fortune and his sacred honor to do his very best for us as candidate, and if he wins, as president.

        Have you ever heard the young Queen Elizabeth, back in, what was it, 1953 or something, in her first speech to her people as their new Queen, after her father died, so untimely and young…. ? She said that her whole life, whether long or short, would be spent in service to her people. I find that very moving.

        As I’m sure people here know, “we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our Fortunes, & our sacred Honor” is the last line of the Declaration of Independence. This is also very moving, IMO. The signers of the Declaration used those words to say that they were putting everything on the line for the beginnings of America.

        I think Newt feels this very deeply. I think it is a poverty in our culture that the MSM might mock such sentiments. We are part of a tradition that offers the very best setting in which the individual human being has the freedom to develop gifts and talents and have a fighting chance for a good life.

        If Rick Santorum mocked Newt saying that, it does not say anything good about Rick Santorum. IMO, it would make Santorum a little man, pandering to little minds. I didn’t hear it. I don’t know for myself what he may have said.

        We are on the dawn of a radical shift in the way power may be handled. I want to elect people who LOVE FREEDOM and who RESPECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE and RESPECT OUR TRADITIONS OF FREEDOM AND THE RULE OF LAW.

        The cyber-technologies are putting dangerous capabilities for tyranny into the hands of government bureaucrats. We’ve got to be vigilant about making government MUCH LESS LUCRATIVE, MORE TRANSPARENT and ACCOUNTABLE.

        These are some of the reasons I am very eager to see Newt get the nomination and then win the general election. Newt understands that to stop the decay of our liberties, we must engage in difficult and contentious interactions with the “business as usual” crowd. Newt has exciting solutions which, if the American People choose to implement them, can restore our country to the Constitution and the 10th Amendment and we can all receive tremendous benefits to our prosperity, safety and creativity.

          Milwaukee in reply to Hope Change. | February 11, 2012 at 2:03 am

          Interesting. I recognized that phrase because Glenn Beck was using it for awhile. He is a big Santorum supporter, and hates on Gingrich. I wonder if Beck picked up that mockery by Santorum. Doesn’t speak very well of Santorum if those are the lines from Gingrich he chooses to mock.

          Just checking another website, and they have the last sentence of the Declaration of Independence as “— And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

          Damn. They could turn a phrase. Too bad writing well seems to be one more thing our culture has lost.

Gingrich did a good job at CPAC.

I think Romney’s strategy is to try to take Gingrich out first w negative advertising and bankrupt his campaign. Then Santorum will be a piece of cake unless the plan is for Santorum to drop out after that and Romney picks him as VP. I hope Gingrich can hang on and voters don’t buy this negative, dishonest attacks from Romney. Only thing that makes sense since Romney is not attacking Santorum.

    My gut reaction:

    I’ll cross my fingers and vote for Newt. I’ll probably hold my nose and vote for Romney.

    But I won’t vote for a ticket with Santorum on it. No way no how no never.

“Ricky”? Oh dear.

Where’d you guys see the CPAC speech? Tried thru Newt.org but it was a live stream – obviously too late. And must admit I never do facebook. So hoping it’s somewhere else on web. Thanks. Oh, I’m not really a blogger, but love to read other peoples sane reasoning (if I can find it) and find this site actually very informative. Love the Professor too!! Taminator- your posts usually dead on – keep going.

Politics is a blood sport and so far several people have been badly bloodied…some of them I never could figure out why they were running. There was no way they could win. I still think Santorum is an establishment guy and in cahoots with the establishment. He lost his senate seat and comes out of nowhere and runs for the presidency? Come on. Therehas to be something going on. I think that every vote he made during his senate term was governed by the establishment. I also think the republican senators and congressmen are run by the republican party just like the dims are run by their party. Scary, isn’t it? The idea this country is governed not by our representatives by unelected party wonks. That’s why they are fighting the tea party so avidly. They can’t control them. However, they are courting them and it looks like Rubio has succumbed.

These lying ads against Newt are on on par with the Palin sliming. All proven lies except the infidelities, of course and they seem to have given up on those. Negative ads are acceptable…..if they are the truth. If they turn out to be lies that could and should backfire on the liar. The problem is that the word is not getting out that they are lies and a lot of voters are too lazy to use their own judgement about a candidate but go along with the media. .

Does Romney seriously think we will believe he has no control over his superpac. I’m sure if he said “knock it off” they would. Why would they wwant to anger him? They are, after all, working for his benefit. He is such a liar. As I have said before he is ruthless to get his own way much like the present occupant.

The conservative leaders were probably requesting that Romney not trash Santorum because they realize his campaign is turning-off conservative voters. Does Romney not realize that if he is the nominee, he will need the support and votes of Gingrich’s and Santorum’s supporters?

His negative campaigning isn’t just beating down Gingrich and Santorum. He’s beating down their followers as well. It will take a massive army of volunteers to defeat Obama and Romney won’t have it.

Thanks for the quick responses guys (not being sarcastic)! By the time I could get back to this site, the good Prof. had it up already. Look forward to reading all your guys stuff, yes even the people I shake my head at. Hope, your also up there in good responses with very articulate and infromative reasons. Can’t wait to keep informed. This fight can be won!! going to look at all three speech’s now.

Raquel Pinkbullet | February 10, 2012 at 8:05 pm

Like I posted in the other thread, why I would never vote for Mittens:

[A] Romney adviser was more derisive of the Anybody But Mitt Republicans.

“They like preachers,” the adviser said of the tea party demographic. “If you take them to a tent meeting they’ll get whipped into a frenzy. That’s how people like Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich get women to fall into bed with them.”

Calling conservative women like myself whores, that above is why I will NEVER ever vote for Mittens. Not even McVain insulted conservatives at the level Mittens and his campaign have.

Here is the link: http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=AC7D3B54-3A1A-4401-9CBA-87DAB16C3C15

Raquel Pinkbullet | February 10, 2012 at 8:19 pm

Mittens has no honor, he will continue carpet bombing Newt and now Rick.

Someone should have taught Mitt that a person who always tells the truth never has to remember what he said and who he said it to, but a liar always gets caught in it because enventually he tells the wrong lie to the wrong person.

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