Repeal of sodomy, bestiality ban sparks fight on Defense bill:
As the final Defense authorization bill gets hammered out in conference committee, one surprising issue is riling both social conservatives and animal rights activists: the repeal of a ban on sodomy and bestiality….
News of the bestiality repeal has sparked conservative groups like the Family Research Council to warn of a “campaign to radicalize the country from the Pentagon out,” even if the intent to repeal bestiality wasn’t there. The group likened the repeal to last year’s end of the military’s “Don’t ask, don’t tell” rule on gays serving openly in the military….
Lester Kinsolving, who writes for conservative website WorldNetDaily, asked about the issue at a White House briefing Monday, prompting press secretary Jay Carney to say: “Let’s get to something more serious.”
That response, however, drew a rebuke from the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.
“We were upset to note that you flippantly addressed the recently approved repeal of the military ban on bestiality,” the group wrote in a letter to Carney. “With respect, this is no laughing matter. Our office has been flooded with calls from Americans who are upset that this ban has been repealed — and for good reason.”
Now tell me again, why are we removing a ban on bestiality? I just want to know who’s on the other side of the argument.
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My understanding, which is admittedly vague, is that it has to do with the removal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, and that the military code(s) repealed involved sodomy and bestiality combined.
Yeah.
And apparently none of the usual suspects (McCain, Gramnesty, etc.) knew it was in there.
Yeah.
Article 125 of the UCMJ defines sodomy as “unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal”. My guess is that they’re just removing that article instead of rewriting it.
http://www.ucmj.us/sub-chapter-10-punitive-articles/925-article-125-sodomy
This sounds right. People sensationalizing what essentially amounts to laziness.
I think muslims believe in allowing bestiality, maybe that’s the other side. Or perhaps they are combined can’t do one without the other. Ughh
Somebody get me a Photoshopped picture of Jay Carney in a old-style Carnival Barker’s uniform (complete with pinstripe vest and pinstripe straw hat, with a little speech balloon saying “Nothing to see here. Let’s not discuss the military’s repeal of the ban on bestiality. Let’s get to something more serious.”
Seriously: Every time I hear Jay Carney, I think Carney the Carnival Barker, shilling for Obama. Most of his claims and his general demeanor remind me of that loud, obnoxious style of making sensational claims which usually have no substance whatsoever.
After years of delays, a bill banning bestiality was finally passed in Florida in May 2011. The conventional wisdom was that nobody wanted to bring the subject up in session, but that’s ridiculous — nobody had to say more than a few words to introduce it, ask for yeas or nays, and that would be it. Still, those who would even discuss it with reporters called the matter “icky.” Well, yeah, maddoggit, it is, but we civilians can’t do anything about “icky” people until you lily-livers do your job and give us a reason to stop them!
In the meantime, a writer for the center-left local tabloid Miami New Times did this profile of people who were AGAINST the bill. If you have swallowed poison and need something to bring everything up, read it — not for shock value, not pointing and laughing, but for your own education. Like sexual libertines of past decades, these people are dead serious, and with every new perversion accepted into the mainstream, a guy like Arizona’s Cody Beck gains fresh hope that someday he might do for the word “zoo” what has already been done to the word “gay.”
They’re repealing it so that the UCMJ can allow sodomy, because the Democrats who control the military and most of the federal government believe with every fiber of their being that sodomy is natural, right, and to be celebrated…and that anyone who thinks otherwise ought to be punished, re-educated, or face some kind of legal sanction.
Any questions?
Bingo! The two non-negotiables on the left are sodomy and abortion. Supporting Dems necessarily implies supporting these.
Did they forget pederasty? NAMBLA and Sandusky will one day be normalized, too. Thanks Dems!
Smithee: interesting article, especially when the reporter contacted the gay rights orgs. They seem to reject it not out of a well defined principle that zoophilia is fundamentally wrong, but that it would be bad politics.
Smithee: interesting article, especially when the reporter contacted the gay rights orgs. They seem to reject it not out of a well defined principle that zoophilia is fundamentally wrong, but that it would be bad politics.
BINGO! You know why they can’t come down like a ton of bricks and say “My favorite kind of sex should be legal, but their type shouldn’t”? Because it would be a tacit admission that they accept the concept of common standards of decency. In other words, they would be admitting that there IS a point at which a line ought to be drawn, and that is the same thing that people who think sodomy should be illegal are saying — they simply disagree about where that line ought to exist.
Removing bestiality must be a pre-requisite to recruiting more Muslims?
Not exactly, but it will be used as a recruiting tool for Jihadists. Everybody is laughing at this story but there is a deadly aspect to it.
Our enemies, the Jihadists or Militant Radical Islamists or whatever the Obama Administration dares not call them, are waging a holy war against us. Their propaganda relentlessly portrays our society as satanic and evil. So when we cheer immorality, cheapen ourselves by celebrating perversity, promote and endorse things that are universally considered sickening and abhorrent by even our own traditions, this can be highlighted by the Jihad Boys as proof of our evil nature. You see, they are the ones defending honor, goodness, morality, while we defend sodomy. Idealistic, misguided young men and women throughout the Muslim world see something as crackbrained as this and say, “You know, Imam, I think you’re right. Allahu Akbar!”
Repealing this is a no-brainer. Even Justice Thomas, who voted against Lawrence v Texas, said that a law against sodomy is “uncommonly silly” and that if he were a legislator he would vote against it. And really, if banning sodomy is either unconstitutional or silly, then what argument can be made for banning bestiality? All the arguments for such a ban apply equally to sodomy.