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It is 11:09pm, and Rick Perry needs to run not walk away

It is 11:09pm, and Rick Perry needs to run not walk away

I guess I don’t understand the world of big time bloggers and CNN commentators who support presidential candidates.

I thought that if you support a candidate, you don’t go out of your way to turn people against your candidate.

But what do I know?

I’ll give Rick Perry some unsolicited advice, similar to what I gave Michele Bachmann and others about Ed Rollins:

Run, don’t walk, away from people who put their own self-aggrandizement and ego ahead of your campaign’s best interests.

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I actually feel bad for Erickson. But he has really ventured into the “jump the shark” territory with todays’s little escapade. I hope no one shows him this interview of Brody (cbn.com) with Palin talking about a September/OCTOBER timeline…. shhh….

http://blogs.cbn.com/thebrodyfile/archive/2011/08/12/sarah-palin-and-the-brody-file-one-on-one-at-iowa-state.aspx
David Brody: Is that short order by the end of September? October?

Palin: I think that that is a fair timeline for people, because Fall time, they can start getting engaged with different campaigns, but still thinking about it, and really, really desiring to be a participant in the positive change that needs to happen in this country.

Erick & the Zombies sing, “Tell Her No.”

Mr. Jacobson, I do have a question about the FEC that perhaps you may know something about. I was reading today that Palin has to wait until after the 4th of October when the dvd of her movie is released. She is waiting because the producer (Bannon) may face litigation from the FEC. Is there anything to that?

    William A. Jacobson in reply to rightConcept. | October 1, 2011 at 12:01 am

    Don’t know.

    retire05 in reply to rightConcept. | October 1, 2011 at 9:26 am

    Sarah Palin is scheduled to appear at a Restore America rally in St. Louis with Glenn Beck on October 8th. Since I would be surprised to see Beck endorse any candidate (at this stage of the game), that event has been in the works for a long time and unless she wants to cancel that committment, she will have to wait until after it.

    She is going to have to get in/get out soon. While she can wait longer and not be on the primary in Florida, she cannnot win the general without Florida. Once again, Florida is going to be a key state in the general election.

    The polls, being held in states that are traditionally blue, mean nothing. While Romney tops the poll in Michigan, Michigan will go blue again. Iowa is iffy, and anyone’s game there right now. Bachmann’s latest tactic is to attach herself to the campaign strategy of Romney.

If Palin were to declare there are some things she would have to disconnect from as well as the “Take Matching Funds” commitments and restrictions.

From the Hillbuzz post
” Deadlines for making a decision in 2012:

To be on the Florida ballot, Republican candidates must file by 5pm October 31st, 2011 (though Florida is being punished by the RNC by “going early” and only half the delegates will count, making it a state a candidate can miss the filing deadline for).

To be on the ballot in South Carolina — a state all candidates should indeed want to be on the ballot for — filing deadline is 5pm November 1st.”

My choice is from the existing declared candidates, for multiple reasons.

The only ‘undeclared candidate’ that would alter my choice is Palin but my primary is way downstream in the scheme of things.

In the 2008 mess my third choice candidate was the only one standing on the day of the primary and he ended up conceding to McCain before the primary.

What’s notable about the Florida Straw Poll is that Perry took on the Florida 2008 Christ org and suffered from that.

The “Ed Rollins” type talking head experts really really bother me – apparently he’s pissed off Bachmann as well.

Professor,
Just to let you know, Perry has been slammed by many on Red State for several days. Herman Cain is their flavor of the week right now. I don’t like the continous updated posts on Palin’s non-entry into the campaign today either. But please do not link Perry’s name to this, as if he supports this juvenile self-indulgent behavior of Erick Erickson. You could give Newt Gingrich and Herman Cain the same advice, or Rick Santorum,Michelle Bachmann.

    katiejane in reply to damocles. | October 1, 2011 at 9:08 am

    Cain may be getting support from RS posters as a backlash against EE’s stupid behavior. I’m sorry but Perry is going to be the one impacted by this – not the other guys. Erickson runs RS and he is the one writing the snotty posts and he is known as a Perry supporter. Just like some people blamed Palin for her more rabid supporters – Perry will be blamed for EE.

      retire05 in reply to katiejane. | October 1, 2011 at 9:11 am

      Since when do we blame someone for what others do? Erick Erickson doesn’t work for Perry, is not on Perry’s campaign staff, and has nothing to do with Perry.

      You’re grasping at straws, as is the Professor.

        katiejane in reply to retire05. | October 1, 2011 at 9:20 am

        We’ve had MONTHS of Palin supporters being ridiculed and labeled as the reason someone wouldn’t support her – so now Perry supporters can have their turn in the pinata. Don’t act like that hasn’t happened. That is what EE is doing and whether you think so or not – he is identified as a Perry supporter. Whine to him about how his conduct is causing a backlash.

          retire05 in reply to katiejane. | October 1, 2011 at 9:58 am

          How is one man, Erick Erickson, acting any differently than thousands of Palin supporters who now seem to be able to decipher codes for whether she is in or out? How is he any different than say, you, who fawns over every movement that Governor Palin makes?

          Paulbots have an excuse; they are mostly young college kids who sent Ron Paul their lunch money provided to them by mommie and daddy. They are usually truthers, listen to Alex Jones and warn everyone about Agenda 21.

          What’s your excuse?

          I don’t blame Governor Palin for her supporters. I blame them.

          rightConcept in reply to katiejane. | October 1, 2011 at 12:16 pm

          Erickson has a MUCH bigger megaphone than some random Palin fan. And last night, he jumped the shark. Big time.

        retire05 in reply to retire05. | October 1, 2011 at 3:06 pm

        One blogger does not a campaign make. If Erickson wants to make a fool of himself, he is perfectly free to do so. He will crater like LGF has.

        But do not presume to blame ANY candidate for what Erickson does. That is a stretch too far.

As sad as Erickson is, it isn’t the real story. The real story is Florida moving it’s primary up. Thing is the only reason I have heard so far that makes any sense is that this is a move to prevent any other candidates from entering the race be it Palin, Christie or any of the other potentials.

The claim that this is to increase Florida’s importance is silly as by doing this they lose half their delegates, thus making Florida less important in the primary. If this is an example of what the republican party has to offer then who really cares if Obama has another 4 years. A corrupt political party is corrupt no matter what name it goes by.

    Aridog in reply to tbobalik. | October 1, 2011 at 9:32 am

    Republicans, in the past, were noted for shooting themselves in the foot. Florida is apparently trying to bring that habit back. What dumb asses.

This sums up perfectly the feelings many have towards Erick Erickson at this juncture:
http://coloradans4palin.blogspot.com/2011/09/in-honor-of-erick-w-erickson.html

(Oh yes, in the RedState straw poll, his candidate is getting clobbered.)

I was reading through some of the comments on Erikson’s childish posts, and one commentor nailed it. Paraphrasing, the person said, “It’s all about making Erikson feel good and Palin supporters feel bad.” And that’s pretty accurate I’d say. The guy is probably banned now.

It’s amazing how much Red State has slipped. I’m not sure if Erikson and the other front pagers are to blame or their snarky ‘frequent commentors’ or Erikson’s CNN gig. But it’s not a place I go to for information anymore.

Florida did the same thing last cycle, so doing the same stupid thing again is probably more evidence of simple stupidity than of conspiracy for or against any current candidates.

The buffoons who are pushing it are one Perry backer and one supposed Romney backer. But these are the two candidates with access to major campaign donors all over the country, their networks are well established, so they would benefit more from dragging the campaign out – then it would have to be one of the two of them.

RedState’s barrage was insulting to Palin, and that was not appropriate or helpful to our cause generally.

Hmmm, first a blog named Little GREEN Footballs became irrelevant. Now a blog named REDstate is becoming an embarrassment. Please Professor, promise me you will never insert a “color” between Legal and Insurrection.

Professor, exactly what does Rick Perry have to do with what RedState does? If RedState is supporting Perry, and from what I have read the few times I have been over there lately, not so much, how is that any different than your support for Sarah Palin?

Are you laying the blame for what they say at the feet of Rick Perry because it darn sure sounds like it. And what does Rick Perry have to do with Ed Rollins? Seems Rollins claims he is still “advising” the Bachmann campaign.

What Erick Erickson chooses to put on his blog, or Twitter account, has not one damn thing to do with any other candidate and it is grossly unfair for you to indicate otherwise.

If you don’t like Perry, fine. That is your choice. But your lede is misleading at best, dishonest at worst. Perry has never even mentioned Palin to my knowledge, although she has taken some [false] pot shots at his state.

This is over the top and not worthy of you.

If you want to turn this blog into the Pandering For Palin Place, fine, just give us a head’s up that is what you are doing.

    William A. Jacobson in reply to retire05. | October 1, 2011 at 9:32 am

    Perry announced he was running at a RedState gathering, and the owners of RedState are big Perry backers. Erickson is the face of RedState. Perry isn’t to blame for Erickson’s childishness, and I never said he was. But it hurts him, because Palin supporters are a natural pool of support for Perry. If I were a Perry campaign advisor, I’d be furious with Erickson’s antics. They are unnecessary and harmful to Perry’s campaign. (And as you know, I’ve always been neutral to favorable about Perry, waiting for him to show us what he has.)

      Correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t the Red State Gathering much like the Kos Convention, except it is a convention of conservative bloggers? So how can you lay at the feet of Rick Perry what Erickson does, since Erickson has nothing to do with the Perry campaign, and like it or not, that is exactly what your lede does.

      Must Perry now denounce every idiot that makes stupid statements or prints dumb comments? Or is it just that any mocking of Palin is out of line in your book and you have to blame another candidate for that?

      Neutral to Perry? Huh? When, where, when you advise the Perry campaign to run from an independently owned blog? Do you hold Palin to the same standard, demanding that she distance herself from every negative comment made about her? Does it hurt her to just ignore stupid comments? Please, I ain’t buying that story line.

      And how are Palin supporters a natural pool for Perry when her own people in Iowa are saying that if she doesn’t get in, they will not back anyone else choosing to “sit this one out in the stands”? It seems to me that many Palin supporters, such as the ones that respond to you, are “No one but Palin” people.

      Ron Paul supporters (and I know many of them in my area) are the same way. No one but Ron Paul. How does that help defeat Obama? It doesn’t.

        rightConcept in reply to retire05. | October 1, 2011 at 12:25 pm

        retire05, That whole meme yesterday by Erickson was about a deadline of September. It was a fabrication and an exaggeration. Palin herself has spoken about September/OCTOBER. Erickson looks like a fool today. Much like Charles at LGF.

          retire05 in reply to rightConcept. | October 1, 2011 at 3:03 pm

          I am not a fan of Red State and have never been. It isn’t even on my favorites list like LI. So I really don’t care what Erickson has to say.

          But that is no excuse for Professor trying to lay this at the feet of Rick Perry, which he did in his lede.

          If we are to hold candidates responbible for what bloggers say, that opens up a can of worms I don’t think any of us want to deal with.

Erickson obviously had fun with these posts, but it is hard to see any other upside for him. If Palin announces that she is running in the next few weeks, then his demanding an end-of-September decision looks silly. Palin told Trapper that “as a practical matter” it looked like the end of September would be a drop dead date, but as the end of September approached, she obviously found that as a practical matter is was not the drop dead date. If she announces that she is not running, he can gloat that he was correct, but people who wanted Palin to run will still resent his boorish attack on a person whom they liked. The only way I see that Erickson will look good as a result of these post is if Palin ultimately decides to run third party.

I think the point is – as it was with Bachmann and Rollins – that they, and we, must keep our eye on the ball, the target. The Target is removing the activist in chief from the White House.

We do not know who the nominee will be. We do know that no matter who we nominate, we will be told ‘they ca’t win.’ They will be subjected to brutal character assassination, vilified, mocked and denigrated by the SorosPR/CNN Media.

We do not need to play in to their hands, nor do we have to let them control the debate. What RedState has done hurts everyone, while the “Obama Administration” dropped Fast and Furious documents late in the day on Friday, and behind the scenes, Townhall reports: Multiple sources, including sources from ATF, DOJ and Congressional offices have said there is a white paper circulating within the Department of Justice, outlining the essential elimination of ATF. According to sources, the paper outlines the firing of at least 450 ATF agents in an effort to conduct damage control as Operation Fast and Furious gets uglier and as election day 2012 gets closer.

Czars, government by fiat, spending into oblivion, the perpetual candidate President’s goons sent out at every turn – thugs sent in by the busload to intimidate his target du jour… this latest attempt to gin up an “American Spring” to give him a horse to ride into re-election… wake up people!

Stick together.

It may be Cain. It may be Perry. It may be Bachmann, it may be Palin, might be Romney – no matter – ONE OF THEM HAS TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL. And anyone who isn’t working toward that goal helps Obama. This is no ordinary election. And the fate of the world may well depend on us sticking together. Republicans, Independents, PUMAs, thinking rational people of all stripes, creeds, colors, income levels, political leanings – Obama is not what he promised to be. He is not what he was portrayed to be. He is a dishonest, sneaky, conniving…. ok, it does no good to rant.

He’s out there – his focus groups have zeroed in on the things we want to hear as a nation – set aside partisanship (so he says it as if he is doing it, and he never has), a “warrior for the middle class” (certainly something he is no, but he is trying to assume the mantle, knowing those words resonate) – even Purdue, carrying that water saying what we all think, decide what’s right for the country without worrying about re-election. Trouble is, for her, that means suspending elections – for us that means Scott Walker, who did what needed to be done, and damn the re-election.

It matters – and I hope RedState sees that too.

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