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Is this the fight Democrats really want to have?

Is this the fight Democrats really want to have?

Obama seems to think that just what this country needs is a big fight over which party is more patriotic.

At least that’s the fight Obama is picking in his speech today in Detroit and reportedly in his upcoming speech to Congress and budget battle:

“We’re going to see if we’ve got some straight shooters in Congress. We’re going to see if Congressional Republicans will put country before party”

Is this really the battle the Democratic Party wants?

Do they have an exit strategy from a fight over patriotism, or at least a target date for withdrawal depending on conditions?

Please don’t all holler “bring it on” all at once.

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How about “Bring it on B***ches”!?

I thought questioning each other’s patriotism was bad. Can this guy get his story straight?

DINORightMarie | September 5, 2011 at 8:16 pm

Yes, bring it on. However, it must be non-violent and LEGAL. Think Creative Non-Violence, MLK. Violent response is just what the left wants. The bully wants to get a rise out of the target.

They want to provoke Americans who they have labeled as “TEA Party” or “teab*ggers” into violence. If average, hard-working, patriotic Americans, people of all walks of life, all colors and creeds – who the left Alinskize with the “target label” TEA Party – respond in ANY violent way, the goons will declare all their vitriolic hate-speech as “justified” and that we are INDEED “violent right-wing extremists” and “terrorists” who “must be, controlled, held accountable.”

It is all too predictable. It is what they want.

We must NOT react in anger, in any violent way. Condemn them, write letters, hold them accountable by LEGAL means, but NO VIOLENT response. We have recourse, LEGAL recourse. We must use it!

As Sarah Palin said so well on Saturday, we must not respond to their “go to h*ll” with a like response of “you go to h*ll” back. We have right on our side, and truth; we must rise above, but use all legal means to check their illegal or provoking hate speech.

To respond in anger will give them what they want. And who knows how they will attempt to use the power of the bully pulpit, the Justice Dept., plus all their willing minions (SEIU, New Black Panthers, for example) to do their dirty work if they declare fellow citizens as “criminals/terrorists” and have ANY actions to justify it.

Never give in. NEVER give in! NEVER GIVE IN!

Also, don’t give the bully an inch. Stand, and act, always within the law.

As in Legal Insurrection. 😉

    DRM: There comes a point where one can no longer stand by and take the beating. That time will come and will must defend ourselves with whatever means is available. “Civil Disobedience” will not help us. They will not care because they are uncivilized. It is clear from the union actions here in Wisconsin and from the speeches in Detroit. They will harass us, beat us and finally kill us if we do not either submit or fight back. In the end, there will be no middle ground. When they come for me, I WILL defend myself.

What’s most telling is that the President has already begun attacking people for not supporting his plan *before he has even announced it.*

Remember the rule of Opposites apply when listening to Leftist Liberals.

Obama SAID he would unite the country == what he has actually done is divide the country.

Everything this person has done has been done with the goal foremost in mind of divisiveness, strife and injustice.

I invite ANYONE to point to ANYTHING this person has done or said that proves otherwise.

I couldn’t watch more than about 3-4 minutes of this before I started feeling nauseous. I am ashamed at the demagoguery that is exhibited by this man. My Lord, please give me the patience to endure until November, 2012.

Well, maybe with Ed Rollins out of the day-to-day fight civility will just naturally return to our public discourse! Quick, somebody tell Biden and Hoffa!

But seriously, folks, liberals hate talk of patriotism. It sickens them.

And many of them will see this as just more evidence of the Bushification of Barry.

Face it. He is doing everything he can to avoid talking about the substance of job creation — and how it happens. Naturally, he is also avoiding any discussion of what government policies must be implemented — or, more importantly, eliminated — in order for job creation to occur.

Oh yeah. We can start with “God Damn America” and “This is the first time in my adult life that I’ve been proud of my country”.

Throw Obama another shovel so he can dig that hole a little deeper. The man is such an incredibly classless embarrassment that I can barely tolerate the sound of his voice anymore.

Obama’s definition of “Patriot” = “Agree without questioning me”.

And what do you suppose happens if we let the Dems define the definition?

… we are either Patriots, or we are not…

Those who are not patriots are those who will not serve their country, do not love their country, and stand against their country.

In the end, those who are “non-patriots”, then can easily be redfined as “enemy”.

Coming next – ways to keep the “enemy” from “stealing” back the government. We are not very far off from seeing others begin to think it is their patriotic duty to silence those who hate the country they believe in.

We already have “government by fiat”.

The rhetoric and vitriol is not going to simmer down. It’s going to get even hotter. The Dems know there are still 14 months to go before the final event – the crucible battle. I would expect to begin seeing even more than hot words. (Think Gibson Guitars).

Anyone want to wager on this one?

DocWahala – the real battle will take place within the Constitution.

You know? OK! Gosh darn it, I give up! It’s yours, you can have it. You have to give me a minute to put it in a box for ya. OK?
Naaa.

by Grabthar’s hammer… by the Sons of Warvan… you shall be…

I’m betting that O has never shot a gun in his life, he has no clue what being a straight shooter is.

If it is about American patriotism, is he suggesting a return to the originalist policies of our founders? Surely, he must realize that includes, among other things, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the principles which they embody, which are conservative, and the antithesis of the policies supported by contemporary “progressives”, “liberals”, and other left-wing ideologues.

This almost sounds like a clarion call for Americans to dump the left-wing subversives in the Boston harbor. Maybe Obama is secretly a Tea Party supporter.

Say no to progressive involuntary exploitation!

Say no to denigrating individual dignity!

Say no to the arbitrary sacrifice of virginal human life!

Say no to normalizing other deviant behaviors!

Patriots of America, unite! We must curtail progressive corruption of individuals and society.

That said, all of this is entirely incompatible with both his words and actions. Either he is an excellent actor or he is referring to another country. Something quite regressive and reactionary in its extraordinary rejection of enlightenment.

The parody in this is that people think the Soviet Union was the “evil empire”. It was, but the realization of left-wing ideology in America has a progressive potential, which is not complimentary at all for a people who refer to themselves as “the best and brightest”.

There are reasonable compromises to be made in the establishment and development of society. I hope they realize that resorting to extreme and fanatical actions will not be welcome in a negotiation which requires people to act in good faith.

Is it customary for presidents to bash the other party in their Labor Day addresses?

I am very displeased with his speech…

I was waiting for him to say the words: “I now resign from office immediately as a world class failure… I’ve ruined this country with liberalism…”

If only he would of said that….
immediately the economy would surge
700 trillion jobs would be created

….and the USA would be restored to greatness….

…..this is a nightmare with obama in office….
and libs still seem to be pressing tax businesses out of prosperity

like this for example…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJbBV-Ntwic

If the GOP and businesses pick up how democrats want to destroy businesses and tax the job creators

….Obama is done for in 2012….

For the life of me, I don’t understand why Boehner invited Obama to come to a joint session of Congress and insult the GOP again. Make him give his “unprecedented speech” from the White House rather than Capitol Hill. I don’t see what Boehner thinks he gained by opening the door to this empty suit again…

    Deekaman in reply to WarEagle82. | September 5, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    Because Boehner has no stones. None. He still believes in “collegiality” and “compromise”. His words say “TEA Party”. His actions say,”RINO”.

    Remember: Compromise is always in the direction of bigger government, more spending and greater debt. Always.

    Deekaman in reply to WarEagle82. | September 5, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    Because Boehner has no stones. None. He still believes in “collegiality” and “compromise”. His words say “TEA Party”. His actions say,”RINO”.

    Remember: Compromise is always in the direction of bigger government, more spending and greater debt. Always.

      Milwaukee in reply to Deekaman. | September 5, 2011 at 11:49 pm

      Deekaman: The double posting is alright. It was worth saying at least twice: Boehner has no stones and is trying to be polite. Has he never read The Truce of the Bear? May the Saints preserve us.

      Right you are about their “compromise”. Remember Washington is the town where reducing planned spending, while still increasing spending, is termed a “cut”. Such chicanery can only happen with a complicit press. No doubt they will be surprised to find their names on the wrong list.

    Deekaman in reply to WarEagle82. | September 5, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    Oops. Sorry for the double reply

Many of the self loathing liberals are repulsed by the very idea of patriotism. They remain silent at the national anthem and pledge of allegiance. Arguing that the Democrats are more patriotic actually turns off the lefty base of Obama.

Given his views and rhetoric, will there be an election?

It gives me great pause. I wonder.

OT but related – I listened last night to Sarah Palin’s 2008 VP acceptance, then Ronald Reagan’s 1980 Presidential Candidate acceptance speech. His comment about Carter was brilliant.

How shocked and sickened he would be if he had witnessed this guy after 2.5 years. Carter on steroids, indeed.

    DINORightMarie in reply to DINORightMarie. | September 5, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    How shocked and sickened he would be if he had witnessed this guy after 2.5 years. Carter on steroids, indeed.

    That he, of course, is Ronald Reagan. Just a small clarification. 🙂

“We’re going to see if Congressional Democrats will put country before buying votes”

When I taught in a public school, I agreed with the Supreme Court that we could not force students to stand or to stand and recite the Pledge. I now teach in a private school in a R+15 Congressional District: Students ALL stand for the Pledge, right after saying the morning’s school prayer. Such a huge difference! Yeah, let’s duke it out over patriotism. Unless you disagree, then you’re patriotic.

Gerald R. Ford said, “A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have”

Typical Democratic/Liberal thinking. To be “patriotic” – we have to put the Democratic party line first.

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The president said, ‘I’m going to go make a speech to get bipartisan support from Congress for these proposals,’ and then he sent out an e-mail — which I received a copy of — that says to tell Congress to stop playing political games. Look, if you’re trying to build political allies to get something big done for the country, you don’t immediately send out a fundraising email signed by the president decrying the political opposition for opposing a plan you have yet to lay out. This seems to me to show that this is more about politics than the economy.”

The most anti-American POTUS in history wants to paint opposition as unpatriotic, in addition to having them murdered by union thugs. Brilliant.

Professor,

You ask if this is really the fight they want to have. Not if their hope was to find a way to keep Sarah Palin silent!

Fascinating angle on her attack — speaking directly to workers — as a former proud union member herself — urging them to reject the “lead” of union bosses who she says are only trying to serve their own selfish interests rather than the interests of the nation in helping to improve our economy.

Sounds like she’s also opening the door for a response to the Obama “patriotic” argument by urging union workers to reject a call by the union bosses to attempt to turn Americans one against another!

Here, from her statement on Facebook, is where she began to address that very issue:

“It’s sad to see much of the labor movement fall lock step behind a President whom Hoffa calls upon to partner in “waging war” against patriotic Americans.”

When are we going to hear from some of the declared Republican candidates?

The White House remains mum, refusing to criticize Hoffa’s bombastic introduction of the President, as does the DNC.

Yes I seem to remember the democraps putting country ahead of party in passing Obamacare? Oh wait, never mind.
Seems that putting country ahead of party, to liberal socialists, is to only agree to the legislation that the socialists want to pass. Any other position is “partisan” and “unpatriotic” and “extreme”.

“We’re going to see if we’ve got some straight shooters in Congress. We’re going to see if Congressional Republicans will put country before party”

There goes all that verboten gun talk thrown out the window. The dims never change do they? “It’s all for me and none for thee” is their motto.

Sukie Tawdry

“Is it customary for presidents to bash the other party in their Labor Day addresses?”

Most presidents use this forum to uplife the morale of the American people. That is not the goal of obama. He wants to tear it down instead. Most presidents didn’t use the office of the president on every occasion and every speech even the state of the union speech to beat up on the opposition. They might have wanted to but they gave some symbalince of being president to all citizens not just their supporters. Most presidents didn’t use a joint meeting of both houses of legislature to give a campaign speech with no message thus insuring free national TV coverage for same campaign speech. The man has no class…is not presidential..and has no love for this country. How 52% of the American people could have been so taken in by this charlatan is mind boggling. My theory is that when residents said they were not going to vote, the canvassers voted for them. which is why the dims are so adamantly against picture ID. They know they can’t win otherwise. Sometimes I think we should take a leaf out of Iraq’s book and have the purple finger.

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