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The Worlds of Jared Loughner and Palin Haters

The Worlds of Jared Loughner and Palin Haters

With each passing day, the evidence accumulates that Jared Loughner suffered from a mental illness completely disconnected from the political world, putting in context just how despicable the accusations were that a 10-month old electorcal map published on a Sarah Palin website contributed to the murders.

The Wall Street Journal has obtained online posting by Loughner at a gaming website from last year.  Here is the summary by The Journal:

Even in a setting that includes the raw and often raunchy thoughts of young men, Mr. Loughner’s postings were startling. They show an obsession with language, a hatred of the educational system and aggression—all of which later became themes of videos posted by Mr. Loughner on YouTube in the months before the shooting. In the forum posts, Mr. Loughner never mentions any political views explicitly, nor does he name any political figures.

The Journal article contains numerous quotes from the online postings, and they truly are disturbing.  Here are just two examples:

On April 24, Mr. Loughner titled a new online thread: “Would you hit a Handy Cap Child/ Adult?” He wrote: “This is a very interesting question….There are mental retarded children. They’re possessing teachers that are typing for money. This will never stop….The drug addicts need to be weeded out to be more intelligent. The Principle of this is that them c— educators need to stop being pigs.”

Later that day, he posted a rant titled “Why Rape,” which said women in college enjoyed being raped. “There are Rape victims that are under the influence of a substance. The drinking is leading them to rape. The loneliness will bring you to depression. Being alone for a very long time will inevitably lead you to rape.”

Some participants in the forum suggested that he must be on drugs, while others said he may be mentally impaired. One forum participant who has read his postings says it was only in retrospect, after the shootings, that he realized that Mr. Loughner appeared mentally unstable in his messages.

Sarah Palin is owed an apology by the people who connected her to the shooting, starting with Matthew Yglesias and Markos Moulistas, who pushed the story immediately after the shooting that Palin’s electoral map somehow was connected to the shooting, and the mainstream media which jumped on the runaway train of blaiming “right-wing” rhetoric.

Then we can move on to the thousands of people posting vile messages on Twitter and Facebook, including many calling for Palin’s death, and then to the politicians like Sheriff Clarence Dupnik who have sought political gain from this episode.

I don’t know if Palin Derangement Syndrome is a medical diagnosis yet, but it should be.

Update:  Charles Krauthammer –

The origins of Loughner’s delusions are clear: mental illness. What are the origins of Krugman’s?


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The 'left' is afraid of Mrs. Palin, and others like her. They resent her family, faith, and accomplishments. They vehemently deny this fear, which is driven into the unconscious…this unconscious fear (fear that they cannot control her independent spirit, a spirit shared by those that value God/liberty over state-worship) is manifested in the hateful rhetoric on display.

The people that engage in this hateful rhetoric need our prayers, more than anything.

Those on the left who jumped on this story hoping to make some hay, have found themselves in a very deep, deep hole…and the walls are collapsing in upon them. Good!

Yeah, it's become clear that even his past political opinions are more or less irrelevant at this point.

Dude was just about as ill as they come for they past two years. Obviously wasn't going to be watching MSNBC or Fox News because of the risks of grammar radiation.

Finally made my comment on the tragedy and now linking your post:

Now… back to lurking.

Oh, and thanks for keeping me sane!

But it won't stop them. This is what Matthew Yglesias and Markos Moulistas do, for a living. Despicable. Cretins. Now they are trying to attack her video saying "blood libel" is referring to the Holocaust, and is thus equating their rhetoric to the Holocaust.

They won't stop. Sick minds, sick hearts, sick souls.

Charles Krauthammer: "The origins of Loughner's delusions are clear: mental illness. What are the origins of Krugman's?"

It's an easy question to answer. Lack of any violence from the untold thousands of tea party participants not only defied statistics, more importantly, it defied the "mainstream" media narrative. That drove Krugman and his fellow travelers to insanity. More and more, crow is the main staple of the "mainstream" media. It's long been eaten by the lefty blogosphere. It's almost kind of sad, the state to which what must be the completely maddening competition of the new media has driven them. Naughty former gatekeepers.

Lord Help Me, I'm Defending Palin

"Okay, it's a little over the top for Sarah Palin to accuse her critics of "blood libel." But she does have a basic point. She had nothing to do with Jared Loughner. He was not an extremist who embraced some radical version of her ideas. And her use of targets to identify districts Republicans were, um, targetting is not exceptional or prone to incite anybody.

What's happening is that Palin has come to represent unhinged grassroots conservatism, and people in the media immediately (and incorrectly) associated Loughner with the far right. Moreover, the Republican establishment understands her potential candidacy as a liability and is looking to snuff it out. So you have this weird moment where Palin is on trial for something she has no connection with at all."

@viator: The "unhinged grassroots conservatism" that cleaned your clock in the last election? You talking about those people? LMAO.

The damage control for the L/P/Dems has arrived. It's worse than we can imagine for them in 2012. In case you didn't get the memo: Boston Herald and Huffington Post

A baby Kennedy–'JoeJoe'Kennedy III has launched his political career TODAY, of all days in Boston, riding the vitriol wave.

Another family member, RFK Jr., has finally settled the greatest known conspiracy of our time, the article read that Dallas, the center of extreme right wing. The Texas town was such a seething cauldron of right-wing depravity was inflaming the passions of the city's Legions of Unhinged Fanatics. There was something about the city — a rage or craziness, that, whether sensible or not, seemed to have set the stage for Jack's murder.

Yes, JFK was killed by the Right Wing depraved lunatics of Dallas, Texas. Today isn't a day of remembrance for the loss of lives in Tucson. It's the day the P/L/Dems decided to use the 'ULTIMATE ALPHA AND OMEGA DAMAGE CARD' of them all. JFK, RFK and MLK dragged out all at once this week, and ESPECIALLY TODAY, to prove they were killed by the Republicans right wing vitriol, resurrected in the minds of the lone killers of all of the individuals who killed these great men.

I sure didn't see this coming.

BTW, Patches says that 'JoeJoe' is the greatest Kennedy of all time. Maybe why the History Channel conveniently dumped the Kennedy mini-series. The legacy lives real or imagined for any Kennedy now or forever who feels like being a public servant. I feel more horror now than on Saturday. There is no end to how low some will stoop to retain power and glory, this is beginning to be of Biblical proportions. Watch out. They're baaaack!

On Monday I spent an hour in a van pool with two lefties with PDS who believe Palin is Lord Valdomort incarnate. Sorry I couldn't sit quiet while someone spouted the Palin's graphic was responsible for this.

After I explained that the graphic in question was used by both Democrats and Republicans, it was off to the races. You know how it usually ends, the lefties cover their ears and start yelling, foaming, spitting, and hurling profanities. These are adults who work at a F100 company.

At the end I felt like young Harry Potter after being attacked by the dementors.

I've been on a mini-campaign to stop characterizing Loughner as "mentally ill". I think a more useful characterization is "evil".

If a man is a psychiatric anomaly, is not amendable to treatment, but otherwise represents no danger to himself or others, then go ahead and call him "mentally ill".

But if a man is a psychiatric anomaly, is NOT amenable to treatment AND is extremely dangerous to others…well…I think it is just as accurate and much more helpful to call him "evil".

There is a downside to calling Loughner "mentally ill". It implies that there is a "root cause" to his anomaly that can be found and treated. Therefore it removes some responsibility from Loughner as the perpetrator, and gives that responsibility to society at large. This, I think, is a dangerous way to go. It leads to a point where criminals are not responsible for their bad behavior. Rather, they are merely victims of disorders; people in need of treatment that a heartless society was unwilling to provide.

We have too much of that already.

—Tom Nally, New Orleans

While driving home from the store yesterday, I caught just a few minutes of what seemed to be an interesting discussion on a local talk radio station about what responsibility a crazy young adult's parents have to get him help and avoid tragedies like in Tucson. What extent they should be blamed or even liable when the warning signs are there and so obvious.

I couldn't help wondering the same about Paul Krugman's editors.

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."

Headline at USA Today:

"Poll: Conservatives not to Blame for Arizona Shooting."

Can we please see a follow up? Something like:

"Poll: Lefties to Blame for Blaming Conservatives."

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He thinks Barak Obama is the greatest president since Franklin Delano Roosevelt. I think Ronald Reagan was the greatest president since Abraham Lincoln.
He tells me a “good read” is Eugene Robinson. I tell him to read George F. Will.
He says his favorite blog is the Daily Kos. I tell him mine is Le-gal In-sur-rec-tion.
He thinks Keith Olbermann deserves an Emmy Award. I think Bill O’Reilly does.
He tells me “tea parties” are for little girls. I tell him The Tea Party is for true patriots.
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Does he cheat at golf?