Judicial Watch: Hillary Sent Classified Document to Chelsea
Nothing to see here, folks.
The State Department released 74 additional emails to Judicial Watch, a watchdog group that continues to investigate Hillary Clinton’s private email server. These emails are the ones the FBI found after it completed its investigation. One email included a chain that the State deemed as classified now….one that Hillary sent to her daughter Chelsea Clinton.
The State has blacked out the majority of the email chain, but it came from White House Deputy National Security Advisor Michael Froman and forwarded to Hillary by her policy aide Jake Sullivan. Hillary then sent it to Chelsea.
Politico believes the email has something to do with global climate change negotiations since the date, December 19, 2009, is the day after Hillary and “President Barack Obama took part in whirlwind talks in Denmark over a possible international agreement to combat global warming.” Plus, Froman also sent the email to White House environmental adviser Carol Browner.
Before Hillary sent it to Chelsea, she responded to Sullivan:
The State Department classified the email as confidential on 10/30/2015 and will declassify it on 12/18/2024.
As Politico says, the email received the confidential note “because it came from a foreign government or pertained to diplomatic exchanges.”
No one knows when or why Hillary deleted this email. But I thought she only deleted personal emails about yoga?
State Department spokesman John Kirby said it does not mean the government considered the information as classified at the time:
“The portion of this email that was upgraded was provided to the Department by former Secretary Clinton back in December 2014,” Kirby said. “It was upgraded to confidential – the lowest level of classification – and released in October 2015 during our regular productions of approximately 52,000 pages of former Secretary Clinton’s emails. As to whether emails were classified at the time they were sent, the State Department in the [Freedom of Information Act] process is focusing on whether information needs to be protected today.”
Judicial Watch released this statement after the discovery:
Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton made the following statement regarding the State Department’s release of 74 additional emails recovered by the FBI in its investigation of former Secretary of State Clinton’s use of a non-state.gov email system. Included in the new documents was an email in which Clinton forwarded classified information to her daughter, Chelsea, at the unsecure email address [email protected]. Before releasing the heavily redacted email to Judicial Watch, the State Department marked it “B1.4(b)” and “B1.4(d),” indicating that it contained “Foreign Government Information’ and “Foreign relations or foreign activities of the US including confidential sources.” The State Department also misleadingly labeled the email with the term “near duplicate.”
No wonder Hillary Clinton deleted this email. Her sharing classified information with her daughter shows criminal disregard for national security.
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Meanwhile, a Donald Trump rally is taking place in Hershey, PA at the Giant Center to a capacity crowd of 10,500 with an estimated 7,000 outside. Tomorrow he will be at four rallies: Tampa, Wilmington (NC), Reno, and Denver.
“Not classified at the time”? Really? Is that the lame ass excuse they’re going to go with?
So riddle me this: What changed between 2011 and 2015 that suddenly made this email classified?
Yes, they are. That phrase is in the New York Times article re-printied in today’s San Diego Union-Tribune, formerly a real newspaper, now under new ownership.
Why was this of interest to Chelsea? Maybe to pass on to her husband.
Insider trading.
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5b710y/hillary_sent_classified_email_to_chelsea_about/
Intentional
http://archive.is/sKX3Z
Clinton did not delete other responses she made to others on the email thread.
“So riddle me this: What changed between 2011 and 2015 that suddenly made this email classified?”
Nothing has changed. The same E.O. 13526, “Classified National Security Information,” that Obama signed in December 2009 was in effect then and remains in effect now. The relevant portions:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-classified-national-security-information
“Sec. 1.4. Classification Categories. Information shall not be considered for classification unless its unauthorized disclosure could reasonably be expected to cause identifiable or describable damage to the national security in accordance with section 1.2 of this order, and it pertains to one or more of the following:
…(b) foreign government information;
…(d) foreign relations or foreign activities of the United States, including confidential sources;
…Sec. 1.6. Identification and Markings. (a) At the time of original classification, the following shall be indicated in a manner that is immediately apparent:
…(e) Foreign government information shall retain its original classification markings or shall be assigned a U.S. classification that provides a degree of protection at least equivalent to that required by the entity that furnished the information. Foreign government information retaining its original classification markings need not be assigned a U.S. classification marking provided that the responsible agency determines that the foreign government markings are adequate to meet the purposes served by U.S. classification markings.”
FGI and information derived from foreign foreign relations activity is always by default classified as Confidential unless the foreign government that either provided the information outright or helped develop the information agrees otherwise. It’s very rare that they will share information at the Unclas level for the same reason you don’t play poker with the cards face up. ALL FGI and information derived from foreign relations activity is assumed to be at least Confidential unless we have a government-to-government that says otherwise. The reason is simple; the USG doesn’t own information. The foreign government that either provided the information or helped develop it doesn’t want the world to know who provided the US with that information or doesn’t want the world to know the content of the information or both. And if we want other governments to share information with us we have to respect their need to do so confidentially.
When it comes to FGI in particular, which is entirely derived from the foreign government’s sources, the classification level isn’t the State Department’s call. The foreign government determines what level of protection their information must be provided. So they could demand a higher level of classification than Confidential.
If you look at the bottom of the emial the reasons the DoS provided for classifying it are 1.4(B) and 1.4(D). Those correspond to the section 1.4 of the E.O I linked to and quoted and the corresponding subparagraphs (B) and (D). So there’s no guessing involved as to what category of “born classified” information Hillary! illegally sent to Chelsea; we know those emails contained FGI and information developed through foreign relations activity.
So the DoS is simply lying when they say it’s been “upgraded” to classified. But they know leftist fools and in the tank Hillary! supporters (but I repeat myself) like OnlyRightDissentAllowed either will buy the lie or they won’t care it’s a lie. There is no such thing as “not classified at the time but deemed classified now.” There never has been and there isn’t now.
Hillary was misquoted. her emails weren’t about yoda. They were about her wearing yoga pants. Some eager newbie classified them so to save a lot of people a lot of pain by preventing them from ever being seen.
State has been dropping some major clangers while trying to cover up Hillary’s crimes.
What’s with the retro-classification? If you don’t treat it as classified right from the get-go, then everybody who has a foreign intelligence service already knows all about it. Classifying it now does what—protects it from Congress? Judicial Watch? The FBI?
Either it should have been classified all along—in which case, State screwed up by failing to classify it, and Hillary screwed up by her improper handling of material she is duty-bound to recognize as classified despite someone else’s failure to classify it; or it shouldn’t have been classified then, and shouldn’t be classified now (generally information doesn’t become more sensitive just because it’s aged), and State today is just screwing around with classification to complicate the investigation.
Repeat after me (and her)…
“What difference – at this point – what difference does it make?”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka0_nz53CcM
Win or lose, it will still be amazing to see how many vote for her.
Win or lose, it will still be amazing to see how many vote for her.
I don’t think there will be any way to tell. If voter fraud is of the magnitude I’m expecting, her genuine votes will be a fraction of the official numbers.
“will still be amazing to see how many vote for her.”
Yup. These people are no longer our fellow countrymen.
It’s like they’ve been brainwashed or something. Zombies everywhere.
“These people are no longer our fellow countrymen.”
They are certainly not the Americans I grew up with.
or they have known both of them all their lives and they know that tRump is not qualified in any way, shape or form. Not even close.
Yep, we are no longer your countrymen because we continue to believe in the ideals of this country; not in some BS mythology that you make up to justify your hatred, prejudice and ignorance.
So massive corruption and dishonesty and incompetence as demonstrated by Hillary are “…the ideals of this country…” to a leftist. Nice.
“we are no longer your countrymen because we continue to believe in the ideals of this country”
No you don’t. You use them as a prop. Then discard them when they are no longer convenient to your newest argument.
I don’t think ANYONE on this page likes Trump. But they recognize Hillary Clinton is about the Rule of Law and must be stopped from gaining the power of the Executive Branch. Sucks that Trump is the only candidate in range to take her down, but if the GOP had been doing its job and representing the base instead of selling us out over and over again, they would be in the driver’s seat instead.
So we hold our nose and vote Trump.
While you guys threaten to move to Canada. Funny how none of you choose Mexico, especially considering how much you love illegal immigration. I’m guessing its because you wouldn’t be able to live behind your gated communities surrounded by armed security like you do here.
Sockpuppets says: “some BS mythology that you make up to justify your hatred, prejudice and ignorance.”
Could you be any more ironic?
You embrace ignorant bigoted stereotypes of us to enable your hatred of people who disagree with your politics.
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Typical projection. We all know who is unqualified. Obama told us.
https://i.redd.it/my75zm19otvx.jpg
Say no more: “One email … deemed as classified now” Yep, that is more than enough to put a the grifter tRump into the oval office. I’m convinced.
Enjoy investigating Hillary for the next 4 years. That will surely make American Great.
She’s going to jail.
I believe that all the Clintons have exit strategies in place. They will disappear and live off their fortune.
Why are you on this site? Daily Kos is calling.
He probably gets paid a dime per comment from some DNC front organization.
If he’s getting paid a dime a comment, then I think whoever is paying him is getting cheated.
Hillary had a responsibility to mark emails with classified information as classified. It was part of her job.
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/50xism/hillary_clinton_was_1of20_govt_employees_who_were/?
Hillary herself instructed that classified documents be sent nonsecure.
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4mvb2e/it_is_a_federal_crime_to_negligently_handle/?
Not. One. Document. A minimum of 52 email classified CHAINS, maybe 81, depending on who’s counting.
“One email … deemed as classified now”
Which do enjoy more, ORDA? Being lied to, or lying?
Because there’s no such thing as “deemed classified now.” It was classified as soon as the foreign government provided it or as soon as they cooperated in developing it.
Onlyrightdissentallowed, you must be busier then a waiter at the all you can eat joint when weight watchers let’s out, scrambling all over the internet replying to all the #hillary indictment posts. Lol good thing they bumped your pay to per post, your going to be rich. Do you feel like the Dutch kid plugging holes in the dike? Your going to run out of fingers and toes eventually. Maybe some home cooked #spiritcooking will magically grow more appendages? Well best of luck and watch out for windmills.
Chelsea is part of the Clinton Foundation’s leadership.
So, the real question is … Who got blackmailed into making a donation to the Clinton Foundation after this email was sent to Chelsea?! And how much did it cost US?!</b
Leave Hillary alone !! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVQOLX1wDAc
A Redditor noticed and traced some of the emails that were deleted. Somebody, I say, SOMEBODY, changed the re lines to suggest a different topic.
In the review process by their own lawyers, the lawyers were instructed to search according to re lines. They were to ignore stuff that looked personal, and some classified material was skipped in this manner.
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5b8zjs/hillarys_33k_and_classified_information_if_they/?
Hillary’s 33k and classified information: If they did it, this is likely how
This also is a potential explanation for the different counts in email chains.
It wasn’t just one email message that got hacked. New leaks show that Hillary delayed the response to the Benghazi attack.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/bombshell-hacked-hillary-emails-reveal-knowingly-delayed-benghazi-rescue/
Any lawyers out of bed yet today? Got a question. If you *receive* an email containing classified information either you, the sender, or both have no right to possess, are you compelled by law to report it?
$5 for your time.
I’m not a lawyer but I can answer nearly all of that. Just any average attorney may not realize that they’re looking at classified information. Most lawyers don’t have and never have held a security clearance so they’re not expected to know classified material on sight. Especially if their client was someone like Hillary Clinton who had her staff working overtime stripping off the page and paragraph classification markings. The government would have to take that into account.
Now here’s the one part you’re going to need a lawyer to answer. The government would agree not to prosecute an ordinary citizen in exchange for their testimony as to how they gained access to that information. I believe a lawyer would not be bound by attorney client privilege in this situation and would have to testify. I’m not 100% sure of that. But I am 99% sure that the government would attempt to prosecute if the lawyer attempted to assert attorney client privilege.
But attorney client privilege wouldn’t be a factor in this case. Hillary Clinton’s lawyer, David Kendall, did have a security clearance. So the government would prosecute him not only for having classified information that he wasn’t cleared to see (you have to be read into certain compartments on a need to know basis, and Kendall had no need to know the information in some of those emails; the formula is clearance+need to know- access) but also retaining it on his own unauthorized, non-secure office IT equipment.
So what Kendall did in this case is definitely illegal. Any cleared person who knows that classified information has been removed and retained on an unauthorized system (i.e. unclassifed system, most especially a non-governmental system) must report it or they’ve committed a felony.
Had his client not been named Clinton, Kendall would be on his way to prison.
No law degree, but I do have the clearance.
Part of the clearance process is the duty to safeguard classified information. If you don’t agree to take those positive steps (access control, non-disclosure, reporting violations, etc.), then you don’t get the clearance. It also comes with the expected restrictions upon your 1st Amendment rights, which you explicitly agree to give up a bit in order to work with the information. And it says so right there in the agreement that those obligations continue even after your clearance is deactivated.
It is definitely a Faustian bargain. But it’s a deal that you make at the beginning. And if you don’t make the deal then you aren’t obligated to take those positive steps.
Okay, okay…. $20.
Maybe, they’re not responding because they consider $20, let alone $5, an insult.
I’m afraid the answer to that will require much research into prior cases and perhaps a new case.
A bit more than 20 smackers…
I’ll take a small stab at it – if you know it is classified you should report it. Under penalty of law…
But don’t ask me which one, that’s above my pay grade 🙂
And worth much less than your original fiver, somewhere around 2cents.