Conservative reaction to The Trumpublican Party
They didn’t leave the Republican Party, the Republican Party left them.
Is Donald Trump the Republican nominee?
Not *technically,* but it is much, much more likely than a day ago. There is an ever so slight possibility that Trump could be denied 1237 delegates going into the convention. I hope Cruz fights on. [Update – not to be, Cruz suspends campaign.]
Conservatives on Twitter wasted no time in assessing the implications of The Trumpublican Party:
https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/727634645404270596
America, July 4, 1776 – May 3, 2016.
— Philip Klein (@philipaklein) May 3, 2016
Hanging among the alt-right losers was never my home. That was just your apartment. https://t.co/9tc1yViWHI
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) May 3, 2016
Congratulate the Trump supporters. Tonight will be their high point. In six months, they'll be blaming the rest of us for their choices.
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) May 3, 2016
Expect the GOP consultant class to run scurrying to "Mr. Trump" now.
— Matt Lewis (@mattklewis) May 3, 2016
https://twitter.com/Schneider_CM/status/727635752348176384
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/727635598152962049
https://twitter.com/BecketAdams/status/727637147356942339
Not seeing many gracious winners. You need unity to win and you won’t get it with vulgarity.
— Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) May 3, 2016
My reaction to Indiana? https://t.co/lPO574KobZ via @YouTube
— Charlie Sykes (@SykesCharlie) May 3, 2016
https://twitter.com/Bridget_PJM/status/727639161247805441
New statement from #NeverTrump PAC. pic.twitter.com/wI2DLou9Hw
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) May 3, 2016
Overwhelming response I'm getting from conservative Trump critics is that never means never.
— Michael Calderone (@mlcalderone) May 3, 2016
Congrats to Fox News!
— Allahpundit (@allahpundit) May 3, 2016
Trump is the first presidential candidate in history to quote the National Enquirer as I said a new low #NeverTrump https://t.co/FPFn3q0Sce
— Richard Viguerie (@RichardViguerie) May 3, 2016
We are so screwed.
— Steven F. Hayward (@stevenfhayward) May 3, 2016
https://twitter.com/AdamBaldwin/status/727635854911381504
It's going to be so satisfying, watching you lose in November to an old woman you donated to, and agree with. Glad! https://t.co/1ZVugMXgRO
— I got your #Unity right here (@jtLOL) May 3, 2016
https://twitter.com/johnhawkinsrwn/status/727647377725767681
Americans have complained that politicians are corrupt — then they vote by the millions to have the two most corrupt face off for POTUS.
— David French (@DavidAFrench) May 3, 2016
A Dark Time in America https://t.co/bbU4Vktn1d via @NRO
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) May 3, 2016
I am a fiscal conservative and I am a social conservative. That will not change. But I will not vote for an egomaniacal authoritarian. Nope.
— Ben Howe (@BenHowe) May 3, 2016
Reporters keep asking if Indiana changes anything for me.
The answer is simple: No.This from Febr. still holds:https://t.co/yUNSZTHW7E
— Ben Sasse (@BenSasse) May 4, 2016
For the record, I also will not be supporting any GOP candidates that campaign with or praise Trump. Fair warning. #NeverTrump
— AG (@AGHamilton29) May 3, 2016
Trump's still Trump.
I'm still me.#NeverTrumphttps://t.co/wLxHzLVyUK pic.twitter.com/tM9xT5x4lq— ConservativeNotCrazy (@IAMMGraham) May 4, 2016
Now commences six months of Trump supporters abjectly begging conservatives to take the blame for their bad decisions.
— Dan McLaughlin (@baseballcrank) May 4, 2016
Trump Just Burned Down Conservatism. The Time To Rebuild Begins Now. | Daily Wire https://t.co/IIM4jOypVG pic.twitter.com/p0fCyu1fUN
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) May 4, 2016
This is what ideological and moral bankruptcy looks like.
— Patrick Ruffini (@PatrickRuffini) May 3, 2016
.@JayCaruso nails it again. When Trump loses in a landslide, it's all. on. you, Trumptards. https://t.co/YM9SMVKqxf
— Nick Mascari (@Nick3BP) May 3, 2016
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As an independent, the GOP gets what it deserves in the lying, pathological Collectivist fraud that it seems inclined to select.
It is a shame…and I mean that in the fullest sense…for the country.
I expect Cruz to fight on to the convention, and to challenge the credentials of every stinking T-rump delegate. We want to process to conform to the rules, right?
“As an independent, the GOP gets what it deserves in the lying, pathological Collectivist fraud that it seems inclined to select.
It is a shame…and I mean that in the fullest sense…for the country.”
No Cruz did not win…….. Don’t be so hard on him! 🙂
TRUMP-2016
May I suggest Gary Johnson for president.
Or Cthulu. Both have the same chance.
I believe there was a poll that showed him in double digits. I hope he can get into the debates.
the GOP gets what it deserves in the lying, pathological Collectivist fraud that it seems inclined to select.
The Gope is not selecting Donald Trump. He is getting shoved down their throats by the “stupid lo fo cultists, or vulgarians”, otherwise known as voters. It would seem that the Gop forgot about them.
The “voters” chose Obama.
Twice.
Yup, there is no denying that. See if you feel the same way, oh, let’s say, 8 years from now.
“The “voters” chose Obama.”
McCain & Romney. It was the republican party that chose obama.
Yes, and a lot of Ron Paul supporters stayed home, or voted 3rd Party, in 2008 and 2012 – claiming they were tired of, “Voting for the lesser of two evils.”
Now many of those same people are supporting Donald Trump, and are angry that some conservatives may stay home, or vote 3rd party, in 2016 for the same reason – assuming Trump is actually the lesser evil.
Unfortunately, this ‘Karma’ will likely produce a lot of collateral damage.
The same voters that gave the Republicans the House and Senate and then watched as these bodies played patty cake with Obama. So yeah, the voters who are sick and tired of voting for ‘conservatives’ who turn out to be in the pockets of big business and big government and big money. Hence Trump.
You mean Hillary Clinton?
re: “…the GOP gets what it deserves in the lying”
I totally agree with you, and would add that America received precisely what it deserved when it voted for Obama TWICE to be their leader.
Hopefully America woke up, if not we have only exchanged one tyranny to another tyranny. Trump presents itself as the champion of Mom, Apple Pie and the American Flag – let us see if he can govern now, in accordance with his stated passions. Perhaps he is someone who will put his heel in the face of La Rosa and other Anti-America movements, agreeing with the meme of #BlackLivesMatter – as long as they have a job and act responsibly. Let’s see how he removes 20 million from food stamps and stops the train wreck of college loans, along with a host of other Obama failures in governance.
It’s time for America to stop whining and start to act responsibly; there comes a time when adults need to stop acting as children. ….sorry if I entered your ‘safe space’! Regardless whatever may come, President Obama will always be “My Nigga”, a top candidate for charges of treason with the attendant punishments accorded such a lofty crime.
Wait, you’re an independent, not a Republican? Who cares what you want at this point. If you want a say in who the nominee for President is from the Republican Party, become a Republican. Otherwise you get to vote in the Independent Party primary. Once the nominees are all announced, THEN you have standing to express an opinion on the candidates.
Why is it that people who are not members of a given organization feel that they have some RIGHT to express an opinion of or, worse, take an active part in making, decisions governing the internal actions of that organization. This the same as allowing citizens of Mexico or France campaign or vote for the President of the United States
Independents are free to express their opinions whenever they feel like it.
Try not to be stupid.
Dislike Donald Trump all you want. He is a damn sight more palatable than Hillary Clinton, possibly the most corrupt presidential candidate in the entire history of this country.
If the Republican elites ever expect to have any moral authority backing their calls to unify behind elite backed candidates in future elections, they need to unify behind the democratically selected Republican nominee, Donald Trump. If they don’t do so, the Republican party was never really much of a party–just a device for the elites to hoodwink the rank and file members.
Donald Trump is now going to be tempted to pivot to the left. He needs to remember he is running as the representative of the Republican party, and keep the promises he made to get selected as such. If he doesn’t do so, he will justly be subject to criticism by the elites, and others.
Dislike Donald Trump all you want. He is a damn sight more palatable than Hillary Clinton
I’d like to believe that, but I haven’t seen it.
They’re both equally terrible for all freedom loving people.
To Kondor 77:
I could list a thousand ways you are wrong. I will list merely one:
Trump would not have left our ambassador and 3 other Americans to die in Benghazi. He would have answered the phone, & sent troops to get them out of there.
No question about it. None.
LOL. Trump and his followers believe that might makes right. They will leave anyone and everyone behind.
Trump would not have left our ambassador and 3 other Americans to die in Benghazi. He would have answered the phone, & sent troops to get them out of there.
Yes, he would have left them there, and he wouldn’t had done anything productive.
Ruling Class Trump is a knee-jerk pol, just like his sister Hillary. Who knows what he will do? He’ll probably look at poll numbers to decide.
If Trump is part of the ruling class – why are all these ruling class weenies whining like crybabies?
He may be rich. But he is not one of them and that is why they are so scared.
Trump not only thinks giving nukes to South Korea and Japan is a good idea (if they don’t pay us the YankGeld), he says that Saudi Arabia will probably get them too.
Hillary may have killed 4 Americans, but Trump could get 4 million killed. I’ve never seen someone as grossly irresponsible as Trump.
Nice speech by Cruz.
Thanks to the Trump crazies who have posted on this site the last few months, I will not listen to Trump.
Good luck.
Trump will pivot to the left; nothing can stop that now.
Dislike Donald Trump all you want. He is a damn sight more palatable than Hillary Clinton,
No, she’s less unpalatable than him.
Vote for the Witch — It’s Important.
“Tempted to pivot left…”? Your premise is incorrect here. He’s never been anything but left his entire life. Did you ever happen to catch any of the interviews he did about Pamela Geller back in July 2015? The interview with Field and Stream THIS year? If not, you should. He’s a Pat Buchanan isolationist. He makes Ron Paul look like a neo-con. He’s Progressive Herbert Hoover reincarnated.
He may be a better deal maker than Obama, but so is a head of cabbage. His vague passing notions, his lack of coherent stream of thought, his current emotion and feelings of the day are what substitute for his ideas and any working knowledge about any given subject. He has the pathology of a textbook pathological narcissist and sociopath with paranoid persecution delusions; and his past behaviors show signs he is a stalker of those who he perceives have either slighted or rejected him.
His notions on Public Lands after what he told Field and Stream THIS year, his notions on the First Amendment considering what he said not only about libel laws, which point to his paranoid persecution delusions, but calling Pamela Geller “disgusting” and “inciting,” asking “Why is she doing it?” when asked about the Draw Muhammad Freedom of Speech rally in Garland, Texas, clearly shows he has no more clue WHY these things are important other than just a passing, fanciful notion. I’d further posit that his idea about the Second Amendment is nothing more than a Johnny-come-lately notion to puff himself up, because he has stated in the past he doesn’t agree with ‘killing animals” and that people with lots of ammunition “should be looked at” by the government. Either Donald Trump is a complete ignominious with the intelligence of that head of cabbage or he is engaging in willful mendacity on the issues of our Bill of Rights. That’s it, cabbage head or mendacity. Either way makes no difference, because they are both just as dangerous, especially coming from someone with his psychotic state of mind.
Given the choice between an egotistical asshole who demonstrates many liberal tendencies and a corrupt con-artist who is an acolyte of Saul Alinsky with a rapist for a husband, I will choose the egotistical asshole. At least with the asshole you have a 50% chance of having a Constitution at the end of 4 years.
…and a 100% chance of being blamed for anything he does wrong (which seems likely to happen).
Somebody ask Eric ericson how he’s doing with that constitutional amendment to ban abortion. Or what he has done with all the MONEY he raised, the hypocrite.
Someone should ask Donald Trump what he did with all that money he supposedly collected for the Vets when he was too much a coward to debate…The hypocrite. Oh wait, or is that you being the coward and hypocrite there?
And I’m sure all the establishment mouthpieces will be happy to vote for Hitler, er, Hillary. That will keep their power and free federal money flowing.
Trump will increase the flow of Taxpayer dollars to his buddies.
Nothing more pathetic than a handful of sore losers tilting at windmills and following a false prophet from Salt Lake City.
There’s nothing more disgusting than a lying religious bigot.
Not that you care. You wallow in your filth every day.
Nothing more pathetic than a bunch of Trumpbots so completely devoid of any moral compass whatsoever they’d worship at the feet of a NYC leftist Progressive Democrat who wants to **** his own daughter.
Would you have posted this if you had to sign your real name to it?
Must be Henry’s sockpuppet.
Fox says Cruz is going to drop out !!
Jeff Roe confirms Cruz dropping out. Maybe he wants to be VP or on Supreme Court after all?
A Trump/Cruz ticket would be AWESOME.
Now why would Cruz accept VP when he will be leading Constitutional Conservatives in our charge to stand up to and fight against the next Corrupt-as-Barack Obama President?
Ted Cruz loves freedom and liberty as much as we do, not corrupt tyrants and oppressive oligarchs.
For our Beloved America, we will not bow to the next Corrupt-as-Barack Obama President.
Trump does not choose the VP. The convention does. Traditionally the convention goes with the nominees picks. I would not be surprised if the GOPe tried to foist a candidate upon Trump.
So the final #neverTrump tactic, foist their VP candidate on Trump. When he gets elected, impeach Trump. There have been some GOPe who have been planning this even now.
As one example: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/donald-trump-2016-impeachment-213817
If they try to foist a VP on Trump I see Cruz as being the natural selection.
I would love to see Trump choose Sarah Palin as his intended VP. The politically correct and nascent RINOs would have their panties in a twist for the next 8 years, but that would be more entertainment instead of leadership. We’re just dumping an ‘entertainment’ empowered VP with Joe Biden. Hmmm…who knows, perhaps Trump will be running against Biden instead of Hillary in the next election. Biden with Elizabeth Warren would be a potent ticket for the Liberal Progressives. Baby RINOs would flock towards that ticket.
@C. Lashown.
I think Palin would make an excellent VP, based on her reform actions in Alaska. The problem is that I also think she would be a drag on the ticket.
Not even for my Senator Ted Cruz would I vote for the NYC leftist Progressive Democrat Trump for POTUS. Knowing what I know about Donald Trump I wouldn’t vote for him for town dog catcher anymore than I’d have ever voted for Barack Obama for dog catcher. Never means never. It does not mean maybe. It does not mean sometimes. It doesn’t mean if x, y, or z happens either. It means never. Period.
Thank you for outing yourself, democratic socialist. Now trot on back to HuffPo so you can be with your kind.
“Never means never. It does not mean maybe. It does not mean sometimes. It doesn’t mean if x, y, or z happens either. It means never. Period.”
Sounds like your idol, cruz, declaring he is in the race to the end. You just didn’t know what “end” meant.
Professor: Sir, do you have TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome)? You have lost your objectivity. I am an Independent, to the right of Barry Goldwater on most issues, I have never liked Trump, never will! However, reality check time, he will be the Republican nominee. I’ll sure as heck vote for him over the alternative. You sound like a truculent two year old that can’t get his way.
For the record Professor I still admire you, especially your stance on Israel, a country I love. You have a great blog I just don’t get your obsession with Trump bashing, its disquieting.
The professor can speak for himself if he chooses, but my guess is that he opposes Trump because he thinks a mentally unstable borderline sociopath is unfit to command the federal bureaucracy, the military, or have access to the nuclear codes.
You are talking about Hitler, er, Hillary, right?
Or Obama.
Hey, how come Trump has let a multi-billion dollar empire for decades, and receives nothing but the shiniest accolades from the people closest to him over all these years?
To MAB&W:
These statements show you’re a poor judge of character. Yet so many here exhibit boundless self-confidence as they utter the same obvious inanities.
In Trump’s book “Art of the Deal” he discusses the use of exaggerated hyperbole… and then he discusses the need to “deliver” because hype will only get you so far.
Now, let’s see if the man can deliver. He understands our angst; let’s see if he can help ameliorate it.
“In Trump’s book “Art of the Deal” he discusses the use of exaggerated hyperbole… and then he discusses the need to “deliver” because hype will only get you so far.
Now, let’s see if the man can deliver. He understands our angst; let’s see if he can help ameliorate it.”
So you are saying that you do not know if what Trump said throughout his campaign is honest and truthful.
Further; what Trump said in his book is what Obama did to get elected.
YOU HAVE PLACE ME AND MY FAMILY’S LIFE IN DANGER BY VOTING FOR A CANDIDATE THAT YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHETHER HE CAN DELIVER ON ALL HIS HYPED PROMISES!!!!!!!!!
For this I have great contempt for you and what you have done.
You want a warranty, buy a car. Kia has a good one. Politicians don’t come with one. Kinda like religious superstition, you gotta have “faith”. And my faith tells me Hillary will screw this country up worse than Obama did. Deal with it.
“YOU HAVE PLACE ME AND MY FAMILY’S LIFE IN DANGER…”
LOL, Trump must really scare the pants off you. Just go 3 monkeys and you’ll be OK.
Sounds like the current crop of lefties that need a safe space from the micro-aggressions…
I agree that the best part of this blog is now the pro-Israel commentary and weekly higher education coverage.
The TDS has pretty much destroyed the cred of the rest of the blog. Hard for me to consider a bunch of whining pundits seeking to elect Clinton or Sanders in revenge for a rank and file voter rebellion as “Conservatives” (see headline). I guess they used to be, at one time, but true Conservatives don’t knife the country in the back because their feelings got hurt.
Leave if you don’t like us. Nobody is holding a gun to your head.
I’ll stay and kick RINO butt unless and until I am purged. Sorry about your microaggressed safe space, lol
If you are suggesting that the professor is a RINO, you are at the wrong website. Insulting the site owner is a bad idea, as is continuing the same behavior that got VF and Gary banned … unless that is what you want. In that case, keep it up.
RINO?
Someone that supports a life long liberal New Yorker, running – at least for now – as a Republican, might want to choose a different term.
You threatening me Flippers? Go ahead and turn the place into a North Korean free speech zone.
You can tell Professor Jacobson that you were microaggressed and your “safe space was violated” because I dared to criticize the #neverTrumps here and called them RINOS. That would be people like YOU, not the Professor, although I can understand why you would try to mis-characterize my words. Note that I started off complimenting parts of the blog; my criticism was selective.
In fact I recommend that you read some of the articles in CI describing the pernicious attempts by snowflakes to shut down dissent. YOU fit right in. And for the record, despite being harassed here repeatedly, and cursed at in dozens of posts by your BFF I never once called for a ban, nor do I do so now. Unlike RINOs, actual conservatives know the importance of free speech.
And that is exactly what you did to us conservatives, stabbed us right in the back and you did it malicious glee. The fact that you have no clue what you’ve just done is completely indicative it’s not just Obamabots who are so easily Grubered. Stupidity, indeed. You’ll reap what you’ve sowed. You’re worse than Obamabots. You’re Trumpbots to a NYC Leftist Progressive Democrat who put an R behind his name. You fell for the oldest trick in the Democrat book. Own you stupidity, then crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen….
These people love to crow about principles, but cannot even support the most basic, which is to respect the will of the voters.
If Clinton wins, they will act as not responsible, when the opposite will be true.
It’s one thing to accede to voters.
It’s quite another to respect them.
Do you respect Obama voters?
Acceding would mean not fighting. They are not acceding, yet, and they will serve Clinton’s interests more than Trump or Trump supporters, under the guise of principle.
As if they know. As if they even understand. Listening to the hysteria, it seems their knowledge is suspect, and slanted to cast Trump in the worst light, and then they wonder why they are so wrong compared to voters, who are fully able to see the good and the bad.
Since there were something like 60 million Obama voters, the question is odd. Depends on the criteria. Who cares? These are not Obama voters.
60+% of ‘pub voters did NOT vote for the hump. He has no “mandate” nor “will of the voters”.
Quit lying.
The will of the voters is Clinton. She got more votes than Trump did.
Keep telling yourself you’re not to blame. I’d expect nothing other than just exactly that from someone who’d willingly support a man who brags about wanting to **** his own daughter.
“I was just following the will of the voters” didn’t work at Nuremberg, and it doesn’t work here.
Me too Teddy copying Trump again saying his supporters are a movement.
CRUZ SAYS IT. HE IS OUT!!
Still hasn’t congratulated Trump.
Now you are whining.
What a loser.
Good luck to you.
The GOPe can thank Boehner, McConnell and Prebus.
Now, time to bury Hillary Clinton in the ditch where she belongs.
Boner, McConnell, Prebus and McCain will be all to happy to support Hillary, as they are the RINO wing of the uniparty, along with other career RINOs. And I suggest all the whiners drop their holier-than-thou virtue signaling and learn to get behind Trump. Anything else and the country is OVER.
I am having a tough time deciding whose tweet is the winning tweet:
Jim Treacher’s “It’s going to be so satisfying, watching you lose to an old woman you donated to, and agree with”
or, David French’s “American’s have complained that politicians are corrupt–then they vote by the millions to have the two most corrupt face off for POTUS”
I have decided, however, that I will not vote for either corrupt candidate in November.
The right Scoop had “Congrats GOP, you nominated a 69-year-old conspiracy nut ” accompanied by a picture of #NeverTrump in a tinfoil hat.
The Trump cultists are momentarily quiet, awaiting their instructions about how they are to attempt to undo the damage they have done with their campaign of scurrilous vilification.
What happened? According to all the best & brightest on this site not 2 weeks ago Cruz was a lock in Indiana. How could all of you be so wrong? 54 ; 32 isn’t just wrong, it’s spectacularly wrong!
Now you’re saying our folly will make Hillary a lock! What is a poor befuddled fool to think?!
As seer’s & sages you sure suck!
Our lack of foresight is nothing compared to your support of Trump, which now leads to only one of two outcomes:
1) Hillary wins
2) Trump wins, in which case an unpriciple, unscrupulous, throughly unprepared “deal maker” become president.
Stop with the ‘Hillary Clinton wins’ nonsense.
She’s hated by most of the country, she sucks as a candidate, and Trump is great at burying opponents.
if Trump wins will not be with my hand …
buying more ammo food and fuel.
I voted for Trump in PA, but if there were a brokered convention and Cruz pulled it out, I would have voted for him. I thought Cruz campaigned hard in PA, much harder than Trump. However, Cruz was not going to win. Trump is going to get all kinds of ugly with Hillary. Past support of her is irrelevant for him. There is nowhere to go but up for abortion. We can’t sink lower. We can’t sink lower on the issue of traditional marriage (well we could actually). The Supreme Court is key for abortion. I hold out hope for a decent pick. Gay marriage is here to stay for my lifetime.
Trump has major character flaws, but there is nothing new that is going to come out. The conservative movement that predicts a landslide win for Hillary is the same group who never believed Trump stood a chance to win the nomination. Finally, I am glad Gary is banned, although I hope not permanently. I never supported his tactics, but banning is a sign of weakness. I expect the Professor will allow him back sometime.
Banning Gary without banning Ragspierre seems hypocritical to me.
Most of Gary’s vitriol came in response to Ragspierre’s vitriol. Much of the time he tried to behave, which is more then I can say for other people.
What’s more is that I don’t see what he was doing this time that was anywhere near close to what he and others did before.
Rags has been here since forever and posts on all subjects. He is what you might call an active, contributing ‘member’. He can get a bit testy or grouchy at times, but he reserves his real zeal for true morons. Gary came along very recently and only to stump for the hump. He couldn’t care less about anything else on this blog. He is not a ‘member’ in the sense that he contributes any worthwhile information about anything nor does he ever present a reasoned opinion informed by facts. He’s simply another stuck-on-stupid hump troll who showed up recently and proceeded to hijack and spam every political thread posted. Just for the heck of it, I counted his posts on a thread about a week or so ago. Over 30% of the posts were his, and with little variation in content. If he wasn’t such a screaming hijacker, no matter how much I personally think he’s a boorish moron, I wouldn’t agree with him being banned. But that’s not the case. His in-your-face-every-second style is like the hollering drunk who keeps staggering back into the bar after being ejected multiple times. He can’t stop making a loud, oafish jackass of himself. Gary needed to be gone. He is as obnoxious and ‘loud’ a barker as his idol is and equals him as a nuisance and a liar.
Good riddance.
It probably wasn’t just this comment but the months of vomitous vitriole Gary spewed for multiple hours every day. He is not a long-time reader or commenter, and he (finally) wore out his welcome. In my opinion, the professor was immensely patient for waiting this long.
Plus you can’t ban Rags , we need him to Rip Marilyn Mosby on the Freddie Gray posts
Hey, you know what the really entertaining part of all this is?
There were 15 career politicians in the race and if any one of them had grown a pair and said they would seal the border… THAT guy would be the nominee today.
So, all you NeverTrump folks should ponder on that for just a moment, and then ask yourselves why you and YOUR guy couldn’t figure that out.
They all said it.
You are a liar.
Donald Trump is a fine businessman and a consummate promoter of…Donald Trump. He is a showman and a salesman. He is also a blow-hard, and bloviating bully.
Donald Trump is many things, but he is no more a ‘conservative Republican’ than Michael Bloomberg was when he ran for Mayor of New York City. Bloomberg ran as a Republican only because the Democrats had already chosen their candidate and he wanted to ride Republican (and as conservative as any New York City Republican politician can be) Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s coattails into the mayor’s office. Almost as soon as the election was over, Bloomberg decided he was actually an Independent and not a Republican and began governing as a typical New York City nanny-state liberal.
In my opinion, someone who:
•Thinks it is okay to sue someone who writes or says something he does not like;
•Provided financial support to Democrat candidates and liberal causes;
•Files or threatens lawsuits as a means of intimidating people;
•Thinks Planned Parenthood does wonderful things and supports continued funding to allow them to continue selling tissue from aborted fetuses;
•Believes it is okay for government to use the power of eminent domain to take someone’s property so a developer can benefit;
•Thinks big-government is the answer to everything;
•Supports higher taxes over spending discipline;
•Seems to believe the Constitution is just a collection of suggestions for government to follow;
•Ignores the separation of powers and wants to make the executive branch more imperial than it already is.
is not a Conservative.
I agree with many of the positions that Donald Trump espouses:
•The need to secure the border and control the influx of illegal aliens;
•The need to strengthen the military and take care of veterans who have sacrificed so much for our country;
•The need for trade agreements to be beneficial to the American economy and not just to foreign countries.
I also like the fact that Mr. Trump is not afraid to stand up to the media and the Republican ‘Establishment’.
I wonder, however, if he actually means many of the things he says. Mr. Trump and many of his surrogates are reported to have down-played Mr. Trump’s public statements as just talk and mere showmanship. Is he just saying things he thinks people want to hear so they will support his candidacy? Will he abandon these positions if he is elected, claiming that his ‘position has evolved’?
I do not agree with Mr. Trump’s scorched-earth style of campaigning or the scurrilous, personal attacks on his opponents during the primary elections. Nor am I a fan of his predilection to use insults and name-calling to belittle and demean his opponents instead of engaging them on the issues. His willingness to say whatever seems to pop into his head, frequently with little regard to the truth or facts similarly leaves me cold. It seems he would rather destroy his opponents than convince the voters his is the better vision and he is more deserving of their votes.
In the event that Trump does become the Republican presidential candidate and loses, Republican voters will have no one to blame but the Trump-Bots and others who supported him.
If he actually wins the Presidency, I have little doubt he will soon begin governing to the left-of-center.
In either case, the so-called Conservative pundits, columnists, talk radio hosts and others who either openly supported him or passively enabled him in his quest for power deserve to have their ‘Conservative credentials’ called into question.
Well, I can guarantee you that if Hillary is elected, she will institute AMNESTY, single payer to replace the failed obamacare and as much gun confiscation as she can. Now, do you think Trump would be WORSE?
The 2nd Amendment will basically be repealed by her multiple SCOTUS appointees but these Quisling #NeverTrump -ers don’t see that as a problem
His opinion on the first and second amendments is indistinguishable from hers. At least she knows what they are.
Probably true…but given that it was Bill Clinton that convinced Trump to run and Trump has a progressive, crony capitalist point of view, I don’t see Trump as anything more than a creature of the Democrat Party…
The GOP has given up on conservative values, so this conservative has given up on the GOP.
Bloomberg ran as a Republican only because the Democrats had already chosen their candidate and he wanted to ride Republican (and as conservative as any New York City Republican politician can be) Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s coattails into the mayor’s office.
Your history is all wrong.
Giuliani was not “as conservative as any New York City Republican politician can be”. In fact he was the Liberal Party’s candidate.
The Democrats had decidedly not chosen their candidate. Nor was Bloomberg interested in any coattails. He ran as a Republican becase the Democratic primary had four strong and well-funded candidates already running, while the Republican primary had poor old Herman Badillo with a budget of about $5000. So Bloomberg decided not to waste his money on the primary, and chose the empty lane. He’d probably have lost the D primary had he contested it.
That was an excellent post. I agree with it wholeheartedly except for the last part about the “conservative” pundits and radio hosts. I would substitute “shunned” for “called into question.” I see no question. They did (and said) what they did with abandon, literally.
I hope they go broke and lose their shows. I hope Drudge and Breitbart and some others lose their site hit count and Fox News sinks to lower ratings than MSNBC or the Weather Channel.
“Conservatism” needed to go. Conservatism never conserves anything!
It permanently alienated 47% or more of the voters, and true conservative political minds preferred ideological dogma to the needs of their own constituents. If conservatism doesn’t conserve the people (“… and their posterity”) first, it is worthless (and people woln’t vote for ideas that screw them over either).
So the conservatism based around the nation won over conservatism based on the individual.
At this moment in time, probably the best move for conservatives is not to throw temper tantrums. A President Trump still has to work with Republicans in the House, the Senate, and in his cabinet.
So, beat Hillary, and Implement Trump’s best ideas: firing Lois Lerner and other SJWS in the bureaucracy, implementing E-Verify, building a “democrat administration proof” secure border, getting the IRS out of the business of policing church doctrine, lowering tax rates, adapting the military to be able to fight states that are dissolving…
And when the demands of the nation are met, the individual conservativism with 8 years of think tank preparation and messaging can take over once again.
I up-voted you even though I disagree with some of what you said.
My comment was to Joe.
The temper tantrums will continue to no avail. Trump is the presumptive nominee.
It is so pathetic reading Prof. Jacobson and the rest of these “true” conservatives rail against us proles who are too stupid to vote for the right candidate.
Yes, Ben Shapiro, Michael Graham, and the rest of the “true” conservatives who gave us John McCain and Mitt Romney, are dissatisfied with the unwashed masses.
Why did Trump win the Republican nomination in a LANDSLIDE?
BFYTW.
Most Republican primary voters voted against Trump, by landslide.
Also, please note, Republican does not equal conservative.
I keep seeing this argument that most primary voters voted against Trump. Kimberlee Kaye makes the same argument in the Arthur Quick Hit in today’s Morning Insurrection email.
You understand that he was polling consistently around 30% when going against 10, 14 other candidates? And, now that it down to three, he’s been polling greater than 50%?
The only reason you can make that argument is because there were so many candidates early in the primary to dilute the vote. It is a very poor argument not to vote for Trump against Clinton.
Trump was nobody’s second choice. It took him way too long to wrap up the nomination, and even then it was done on his strength in his home state that he’s going to lose in November. And conservatives are pledging not to vote for him. Looks weak to me.
The more people that have you as their first choice, means you have fewer people to have you as their second choice.
Trump won. He has almost 50% more votes than cruz in 2nd place. Simple facts seem to elude you deranged whiny babies. All you have is making stuff up.
With the smoke settling a bit, we can see a few things moderately clearly—
1. The Republican party is dying. Senile, fussy, irrelevant, damn near a zombie. What did it give us for this election? A lineup of utter crap candidates. This is a party with no blood pressure left. It is not a dynamic party; it is not a party interested in winning. This is a party interested in loose shoes, a warm place to … you remember the phrase. It’s not the Grand Old Party, it’s just the Old Party, the Pathetic Party.
2. Conservatism is going nowhere, and is dead set on continuing in that direction. What did it give us for candidates this time? The same thing as the Republicans—utter crap. Some militantly unperceptive types insist that Cruz is a conservative; others look at Cruz and see a fake, a Halloween mask with CONSERVATIVE written across the forehead in crayon. Which is correct? I find the Cruzbots’ faith unconvincing. Statements of faith do not establish fact; if they did the Global Warming people would be right and I’d be treading water right now.
To be fair, American Conservatism’s failure here is not Ted’s fault. My personal view is that American conservatism will go nowhere electorally until it can grasp that the schism between the social and the fiscal conservatives is both fundamental and permanent. The social conservatives fight this concept tooth and nail, thus dooming the whole enterprise, and I expect they will continue to do so.
3. The Punditry are pantywaists. Look at all that “Congratulations, Trumpeteers, you’ve made Hillary the next President” bullshit up above. Go ahead, lie down and die, please. You’re just in the way. Americans have a job to do, and if you’re not going to do it, don’t try to trip up the people who are a little bit more dynamic. And who are not so consistently and persistently wrong.
Republicans had many good candidates- Walker, Cruz, Jindal, Rubio. Problem is, the conservative vote was divided, and the Donald was the Donald. He brought with him all sorts do “wonderful new voter”: the reality TV celebrity chaicers, the neo-nazis, the soft noes of AltRight, the conspiracy mongerers. Those voters are Trump’s and Trump’s only.
So congrats!
“All sorts of ‘wonderful new voters ‘”
Soft neos of Alt Right
The republican party is already dead. They’re only assets are a logo, and what is likely to be a final convention.
The dream now is to have Trump and Cruz mend fences.
My prediction is that :
90% of #neverTrump people will vote for Trump in the general election
Some people will be so harmed by a Trump presidency that they will never support him: the hardcore GOPe and their supporters eg the Koch brothers.
But most others have been so focused on the election that they have not thought out the full consequences of a Hillary presidency. One thing in particular. No I won’t point out that thing now. I’ll point it out when Trump is leaving the convention as the nominee, or if he is not, when Hillary is elected President.
The Koch brothers have never let their own interests dictate their political activism. If they had they’d be against the Keystone Pipeline, because it would hurt them. They support it because it’s good for America and for the world. And they’ll oppose Trump because he’s bad for America and for the world.
Millhouse, my youngest son is the distribution and service manager for a company that supplies most of housing, food and facilities to remote service locations. A large part of their business is to the drilling rigs and storage locations in the tar sands in Canada. A very large part of his business is with one or another sub division of the Koch industries. So yes they do have a vested interest in Keystone..
#NEVERTRUMP
You and your ilk have succeeded in dividing the party by supporting a fraudulent, bullying carnival barker with a 100-word vocabulary, embarrassing grammar, grossly uneducated, knows nothing and doesn’t want to learn. Even if the hump gets the nomination, millions will not vote for him, come hell, Hillary, or high water. That’s what she wanted from her old friend and that’s what she got – a totally divided and bitter ‘pub base.
I expect to be disappointed, but I hope that somehow the RNC pulls a rabbit out of a hat and sends that orange bastard packing.
Trump is light years above the scummy Hillary Clinton, and that putz, Mittens Romney.
Stop with the self-destruction.
Yep, every one of the #nevertrumpers voted for mittens romneycare, the man that SIGNED the planned parenthood pledge to support any and all abortions, that created romneycare, the father of obamacare, that suggested 45% tariffs on goods coming from China. And on and on. Of course, mittens was for open borders as opposed to trump who is for closing them.
Then they try to pretend they have integrity.
More BS from a humper fool. You have no clue as to who voted for whom anytime, anywhere.
I wrote on this site for a time fairly regularly during the Elizabeth Warren farce of 4 or 5 years ago. Then I got away from it for several years as I set up my own operation over the last 3 to 4 years. That operation has been more successful than I had any right to expect. The Republican party has now been badly damaged. I can’t say I was a major factor but as a single soldier in the battle I did more than my share. Getting back to commenting on this site was a throwaway of no particular importance.
To many of you it is a factor of why you get up.
Most of you need to get over yourselves. This battle is about much more than your petty vanities. It is about more than this site.
Most of you are piss poor soldiers in the larger battle.
This site has deteriorated noticeably from several years ago. Conservatism has been outed as an empty suit over that time. When I morphed into developing my larger operation 4 years ago I did it in part because conservatism had proven itself to be a dead end path to what I wanted to accomplish. My operation is now at least twice what I’d hoped it to be at this time.
I fully expect you to mock, I fully expect you to jeer. It’s what most of you do. The last thing I expect you to do is listen & actually hear.
I’ve said this before, I’ll repeat it now. Most of you are locked up in your own hatreds. The more people became acquainted with Ted Cruz, the more he lost support. Donald Trump didn’t do that, Cruz himself with supporters like all of you did it.
Now ban me if you choose professor, it’s your site & your prerogative. This site is incidental to my larger mission. That’s the way I set my operation up from the beginning. With full knowledge conservatism is a worthless philosophy that has little to no relationship to actual people.
The fact you haven’t won Jack Squat in over 30 years underlines that point. A person you have no respect for just came in from outside & rolled over all of you like Patton going into Germany.
Sound very similar to communists and fascists talking about the failure of liberal democracy in the 1940s.
You can complain about systemic failure (although not suer how 2/3 of states under control, senate/house, a conservative legal revolution in the courts since the 80s is a god awful record), but you have nothing actually constructive or affirmative to present. You have no ideas, no strategies, nothing. More than that you don’t care and probably don’t have the intelligence to provide better analysis of the data or evidence to actually assess or create political improvement.
Like most proto-fascists, you are part of a cult, one that elevates a nihilistic, contradictory narrative and personality of narcissistic bully above everything. Now you got a guy that would point to his bicep if asked to provide coherent ideas on how to actually affirm his promises to working class voters. But of course this is the “ideas” machine that is going to solve the empty suit conservative problem by presenting none and wildly contradicting the base among women, all minority groups, everyone except uneducated white males. The collation is far weaker than “loser” Romney’s ever was.
So if your grandiose, silly-sound operation was to demographically appeal to a small but narrow base that can’t win general elections- then great job! You accomplished it. Enjoy Hillary.
There are some lessons to learn from Trump. People are yearning for somebody who stands up to the press, the Democrats and to political correctness. Unfortunately, not many of them paid enough attention to know that Cruz has done that for the past 4 years and stayed true to his principles while doing it. He has been the politician we all wanted but Trump came along and projected his pathological lying onto Cruz before people knew he was an honest man. I will forever hold Sarah Palin, Ann Coulter and Ben Carson in contempt for giving Trump legitimacy. Sarah stuck by his side when he praised Planned Parenthood and said we should still fund them. Good job Sarah – you must be proud. Ann stood by him when he said he would let the illegals back in and give them citizenship but they had to leave first (that is amnesty)! Viva Ann! Ben stood by him when he said Two Corinthians instead of 2nd Corinthians. When he said he has NEVER asked God for forgiveness because he’s never done anything wrong. Apparently comparing Ben to a child molester isn’t anything wrong! All of them stood by as he lied, denigrated, smeared and attacked people they used to admire and praise. Not only that, but they participated in the smears. I have a whole list of names that I no longer trust in the conservative field. That being said, I will NOT sit out this election. I will make sure to vote the down ballot and send as many conservative candidates to DC as possible and hopefully stop whichever of these disasters gets to be President. I wish Andrew Breitbart had been here to stop this train wreck before it got this far! God save our country!!
Breitbart would have seen through Cruz in a New York minute.
People are now whining that the “conservatives”, in the Republican Party will stay home and not vote. This may turn out to be true, depending on how Trump campaigns in the General Election. However, my personal opinion is that a large number of Trumps Republican supporters are conservatives.
People try to lump all conservative Republican voters into the CONSERVATIVE movement. However, this is done more for convenience than accuracy. Conservative voters encompass a wide range of people with varying interests. Some are religious traditionalists or evangelical Christians. Some are Constitutionalists. Some are fiscal conservatives. Some are economic protectionists. Some are social conservatives. And, some are mild to strong isolationists. Conservatives are not a monolithic block of like-minded voters. They are a convenience grouping for political analysts and the media. A large portion of these groups have retreated from the political arena simply because the Republican establishment has chosen to totally ignore them and not even attempt to deliver on its promises to them. There are NO conservative elected officials in the Congress. None. And, there are not likely to be any, if they represent one of the major parties.
So, the question then becomes, how many people, in this diverse grouping will be swayed by Trump’s espoused policies? Right now, I suspect that many of this group supported Trump’s candidacy, as a means of sending a strong message to the Republican establishment. For some individuals, that will change and a message will be sent to the candidate concerning how he governs. The only sure thing about a Trump Presidency, is that if Trump reneges on the promises that he makes to the conservative voters, it is very likely that the bulk of the conservative voters will simply drift away again.
Why couldn’t all those stupid voters just follow the lead of all the super great wonderful intellectual elitist that have gone to all the great super smart colleges.
Why do we even give them a vote when they waste it on such a loser a Billionaire who can barely run a multi billion dollar empire? It just not fair so I will take all my far superior knowledge of politics and go vote for Hillary or Johnson or the green party after all they are smart like me.
I just wonder sometimes with my super intellect why didn’t I see this rebellion? Why didn’t 2010,2012, or 2014 register in my larger than everyone else brain? Why didn’t I see the betrayal time and again when my choices voted for Omnibus, Cromnibus, and ever other bus Obama wanted, sometime we even rode on the same bus.
We are so good at business we have consistently sold our country’s industrial might in a fire-sale to every third world nation all at the behest of Multinational conglomerates. It start with NAFTA and continues to this day with every SHAFTA deal of so called “Free Trade”. Free trade is just a code name for the betrayal of every working man and woman in this country to convert it to a service nation.
Those stupid voters should just go back to sleep watch TV we have this.
Notanymore.
You & a few others get it. The institutional conservatives that populate this site will never get it. It’s much easier to spout conservative church dogma.
And yes, I do recognize there are different flavors of conservatism.
Astute readers with a knowledge of history might recognize the title of this post as the title of a tract by Lenin published in 1902. His idea was to create a “vanguard” of Marxists to spread Marxist ideas. It is little known that the Bolsheviks were a relatively small movement of activists when they took over. What they lacked in numbers, they made up for in zeal and organization.
Constitutionalists hate Marx, but there is no reason we can’t emulate his idea of a vanguard of people committed to a cause. His cause was an economic system designed to oppress and ultimately kill millions. Our cause is protecting our rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Trump has made it easy for us to identify one another. If you hate Trump, it’s probably because you believe we should return to the system of our founders: a system where federal government respects the limits prescribed by the Constitution; where bureaucrats cannot form a shadow government where they act as lawmaker, judge, jury, and executioner; and where our God-given rights are truly respected and cannot be taken away at the whim of a leftist, whether they call themselves Republican or Democrat.
One thing I think I want to do is get us together in some way. I want to have a way of talking more directly to those of you who really care about changing this country and bringing us back to constitutional principles. I’ll have to figure out the logistics of this in coming days, but if you’re interested, send me an email at [email protected] with the word “Constitution” in the subject line, and I’ll add you to the list. You’ll be part of the vanguard.
What will we do? I don’t know yet. But whatever we do, we’re going to strike blows for liberty, the free market, and the Constitution.
—Patterico
I’ve sent my email. I encourage the rest of you who feel this way to do the same.
Let’s see: Trump is pro-life, pro-second amendment, pro-border control, anti-Obamacare… supported by Phyllis Schlafly, Jeff Sessions, Jerry Falwell, Jr…. all is NOT lost.
You mean the guy who endorsed Obama’s gun control strategy after Newtown? What color is the sky on your planet?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/280754630047199232
Donald J. Trump on the Right to Keep and Bear Arms: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/second-amendment-rights
Best deal America has had since Reagan if the #NeverTrumps don’t screw it up with their temper tantrum.
We told you for 3 months that we wouldn’t vote for him. Did you think we were joking?
The part I like the best is all the T-rumpian maturity and respect…
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/05/04/gop-nominee-after-victory-i-notice-no-one-in-the-cruz-camp-denied-the-enquirer-story-about-his-father-and-lee-harvey-oswald/
Der Donald is an unbleached asphole.
Here are Trump’s actual policy positions (read for yourself): https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
they very well maybe his positions this week .. next week maybe not.