Amnesty activists use children to confront Scott Walker
Walker handled it pretty much perfectly.
During the summer of 2013, we began to see immigration amnesty activists use the Why do you want to deport my daddy? tactic against Republicans.
The tactic involves sending children to confront candidates — with the video rolling. It all was a set up, in the hope the candidate would do something stupid or mean.
Most famously, Speaker John Boehner was confronted by well-coached children while eating at his usual breakfast spot:
A similar confrontation just happened to Scott Walker, and it was all a set up by a “social justice” activist group seeking to stop deportations.
The Washington Post reports, Scott Walker tells undocumented worker that immigrants must follow the law:
As presidential hopeful Scott Walker toured a farm in this tiny town where he lived as a child, he was confronted by an undocumented worker from Mexico who is living in Wisconsin and demanded to know why Walker does not support President Obama’s plan to give temporary status to some undocumented workers, including parents of children who were born in the United States.
“We’re a nation of laws,” Walker, the Republican governor of Wisconsin, repeatedly told Jose Flores, 38, who was joined by two of his four children, Luis, 7, and Leslie, 13, who had tears rolling down her cheeks throughout the exchange. Flores, who lives in Waukesha and works for a medical supply factory, said he and his wife live in fear of being deported and separated from their children, who he said were all born in the United States….
It was an opportunity for Walker to demonstrate how he calmly fights back against challenges from activists. He was forceful as he told the Flores family that immigrants must follow the rules, but he added, “I completely sympathize with the situation you’re all in and others are in.”
One of the activists, Sam Freeman of Wisconsin’s Voces de la Frontera, cut the governor off and shouted, “So that’s why you want to separate their family?”
The WCF Courier reported that the Voces de la Frontera not only had an activist present, it arranged the confrontation:
Walker further demonstrated his calm political style during a brief meeting meeting in Plainfield with Jose Flores and his children, Leslie, 13, and Luis, 7, about his position on immigration.
Flores traveled from Waukesha, Wis., aided by the immigration advocacy group Voces de la Frontera, to get Walker to explain his opposition to the federal orders that provide immigrants who came here illegally a temporary legal status.
At the 2:55 mark the father has the child ask an obviously rehearsed question:
“Do you want me to come home, come from school and my dad gets reported?” [sic]
The person shouting at the 20 second mark was Sam Singleton-Freeman, an organizer for Voces de la Frontera and a participant in the Cap Corps – Milwaukee 2014-2015, a Catholic “social justice” operation:
“So that’s why you want to separate their family?”
The goal is to shift the blame for the children’s difficult emotional situation from the law-breaker to the law-maker.
Walker handled the confrontation pretty much perfectly.
What the activists want is the Republican candidate either to run away and refuse to engage, or to get nasty or upset.
Walker stayed on a message that both is correct and will play well with the electorate — no one is above the law, not the illegal immigrant nor the President of the United States.
The 2013 confrontations did nothing to advance the amnesty advocates’ agenda. The 2014 elections were a complete blow-out for Republicans.
While I’m not predicting 2016, I am predicting that these contrived confrontations and use of children as political props will backfire on the amnesty advocates — so long as the Republican candidate stays calm and on message.
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If you come here against our laws, you eat the consequences.
If you produce children here, and are faced with deportation…either by legal action or economics (as I vigorously advocate) you have two (at least) choices…
1. keep your family intact by taking your kids with you when you leave, or
2. split your family up.
It’s your choice, and it flows from your CHOICES, some of which were BAD choices.
We aren’t suspending the laws to accommodate your crappy choices.
Simple as that.
Bingo.
Agreed Rags!
So it seems these “Amnesty activists” are total fakes, and total freaks….total Frakes!
Another point: the family doesn’t have to split up. The kids are American, so even if they go back to their parents country when they’re 18 they can come back on their own. The law as currently interpreted just says that they’re entitled to U.S. citizenship, it doesn’t say that they have to live in the U.S.
Children born in the US to parents who are Mexican citizens are also citizens of Mexico, so the parents will have no problem taking them back across the border.
Mexico treats such minors as persona non grata. No access to Mexican government services including schools and medical care.
Mexico does not provide them with dual citizenship.
Wrong. Under the 1998 Mexican Nationality Act, children born in foreign countries to Mexican-born parents are Mexican nationals and as such are constitutionally entitled to all the privileges of Mexican nationality, including the right to attend public schools in Mexico. Furthermore, such children may obtain Mexican citizenship at age 18 by simply producing the Mexican birth certificates of their parents, and they are not required to renounce their U.S. citizenship when they do so (IOW, they will hold dual citizenship).
Pay a lawyer or pay the mordida so the local authorities follow the laws of Mexico.
I would argue that allowing the children to have full citizenship privileges and rights conflicts irreconciably with US laws which hold that children are represented by their parents. IOW, they have no citizenship rights/privileges that they can exercise until they are emancipated by operation of law (usually age 18).
Were the parents to abandon them here, the state would have to initiate dependency proceedings for custody. If the parents couldn’t or wouldn’t participate, then their parental rights could be terminated.
Platypus, turns out that the 14th Amendment is crystal clear on this. Anyone born in America, and subject to the jurisdiction of our law, is an American citizen. Any doubt about that was handled by the USSC in United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898).
Be as unhappy as you wish, the children born here are U.S. citizens.
All LI readers should be aware that the 14th Amendment never granted blanket “birthright citizenship.”
It was the supreme court’s wrong turn in US v. Wong Kim Ark that has led to the erroneous belief that it does.
See Prof. Eastman’s discussion here: http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2006/03/from-feudalism-to-consent-rethinking-birthright-citizenship
The two concepts—jurisdiction of our law and illegal immigrant—are, prima facie, incompatible. They don’t combine coherently, let alone with crystalline clarity.
If you take your kids with you, they can return legally whenever they wish if they were born here.
And why is papa seeking publicity if he is so afraid of being deported? You call that “hiding in the shadows”?
More like hiding behind your kid, no shadows needed.
American prisons are filled with Fathers and Mothers. Breaking the law does break up families. There are consequences
AMEN.
Well said.
I’m amazed that some of those supposed family values people even entertain the choice of leaving their children here.
I suppose that fringe candidates like Trump are the only ones who feel free to point out the uncomfortable truths like that but Walker should have make your excellent point and several others. The illegal immigrant kept pushing, so Walker had numerous opportunities to make one point after another.
I wish people like Walker would point out that not only are we a nation of laws, but we are a land of OPPORTUNITY that attracts immigrants from all over the world precisely BECAUSE we are a nation of laws. Our commitment to the rule of law is feature, not a bug.
People like Walker also need to point out that our immigration policies should be FAIR. We want families to stay together, we want people to be able to come to this country to pursue the American dream, and we want the people who have been following the rules and WAITING IN LINE to be rewarded for their conscientious behavior.
Our current policies discriminate against those who follow the rules.
If you don’t think this kind of out-of-control immigration is a problem, I spent a the past week in downtown Aurora, Illinois. Three things struck me immediately. First, the approximately 2/3 vacancy rate in the downtown. Second, the majority of the businesses that remain obviously service a Latino community. The restaurants, clothing stores, shops, travel agencies, insurance agencies, welfare and charitable agencies, etc., were all in Spanish. Third, there are no chain stores within three miles of my hotel. No CVS or Walgreens, no Panera, no Starbucks. The grocery stores and convenience stores are all in Spanish. A discussion in the only Irish Pub revealed that while the demographic data shows less than thirty percent Latino, the number is almost double due to illegals and new immigrants since the 2010 census. I don’t want to send Pedro’s dad packing either but there has to be common sense controls or our society will suffer the fate of Aurora.
Nothing wrong with telling “Jose” to go back to Mexico or wherever he came from if he is an illegal alien in the first place. And nothing wrong with telling him to take his kids with him – they’re his responsibility, not mine ~
Well, nowadays they ARE your responsibility via fed govt benefits.
I do want to send Pedro’s dad packing, since Pedro’s dad made a calculated decision to break our laws — and then to assert that our laws should not apply to him.
I had a similar experience when I went to Baby’s R Us in Pleasant hill. CA. I wanted to buy a child’s book. There were more books in Spanish than in English. I was visiting my former home town of Concord, CA – it was because of the huge influx of illegals and the re-election of Jerry Brown in 2011 that we left. I didn’t feel safe anymore.
Scott Walker’s ability, to stand up to lawbreakers of various sorts, is something special.
He has experience at the state level successfully handling many of the issues our nation as a whole faces right now. I think Machiavelli had a good point, when he wrote that whether a leader is successful depends less on his individual merits, and more on whether his character suits the times. His record of success suggests that this is a good time for a leader of this type.
For these reasons, I would be very happy to support him, if the Repubs nominate him for President.
Children grow up in Mexico every day. If Mommy and Daddy are here illegally and get deported, then guess what? The kids can go back to Mexico with them!!!! And then when they become adults the kids can come back to the US and enjoy their citizenship.
Conservatives should turn this tactic around on the prog borg and have children of unemployed workers ask the prog candidates why they hate their Mommy and Daddy and force them to be unemployed by allowing millions of illegals into the country to flood the labor market with cheap labor. Why do you force us to go hungry?
Or they could have legal immigrants asking why they had to wait in their home countries for years, submit to background checks and pay thousands of dollars in fees, to get a visa, while meanwhile millions of Mexicans just strolled illegally across the southern border and now demand that we reward their law-breaking with amnesty.
Lets have a discussion about the “fairness” of that.
Bravo! Bravo!
Re: “Conservatives should turn this tactic around on the prog borg and have children of unemployed workers ask the prog candidates why they hate their Mommy and Daddy and force them to be unemployed by allowing millions of illegals into the country to flood the labor market with cheap labor. Why do you force us to go hungry?”
“Why would your mommy and daddy abandon you? I’m sure they’d keep you with them when they go back to their home.”
For the left, children are a wonderful things to use, exploit and have all kinds of ‘liberal fun’ with:
Liberals Seek To Normalize Pedophilia, Just Like They Did With Gay Marriage
http://news.yahoo.com/liberals-seek-normalize-pedophilia-just-042600730.html
Remember the Pro-Pedophile Movement That Liberals Pretend Doesn’t Exist?
http://theothermccain.com/2013/11/17/remember-the-pro-pedophile-movement-that-liberals-pretend-doesnt-exist/
Pedophilia the Next ‘Sexual-Rights’ Revolution?
http://conservativebyte.com/2014/01/pedophilia-next-sexual-rights-revolution/
Proper response to this kind of activism:
“Sure I’ll talk.”
*Takes out phone*
“Pardon my rudeness, I’m just contacting ICE while we talk. We’ll get this all sorted out with the proper authorities.”
And the illegals will simply laugh.
They know, all too well, that Obama’s ICE won’t take the call. Or will essentially tell the caller “F*ck you” and hang up on them.
They know they’re in no danger of deportation; it’s why illegal alien Flores was so willing to jump in front of the cameras and announce his illegal status to Walker and all the world.
So, when a murderer, theif, drunk driver, tax evader, or other criminal is facing the judge at his sentencing, the proper tactic is to bring his kids along to ask the judge “Why do you want to separate me from my daddy?” and he’ll get off? Nice.
Don’t you get it? Illegal aliens are special. They’re practically saints. Ergo, they don’t have to follow laws they don’t like.
Yes, and if you can get the little darlings to squeeze out a few tears on your behalf, not only will you not get punished, you’ll get rewarded for your law-breaking!
Every day in this country there are thousands of parents standing before judges receiving fines or prison sentences or other punishments because they chose to break the law. Those criminals’ kids are going to be adversely affected by their parents’ poor choices too. But we don’t hear people arguing that bank robbers or embezzlers or drug dealers or tax cheats, etc., should escape punishment for their crimes, just because they have kids and “they were trying to make a better life for their families.” Illegal aliens break our immigration (and other laws) for the same reason — because they want to materially improve their lives. So why should we excuse their lawlessness, but not others?
The parents broke the law and they are the ones that need to pay the price. That may include being incarcerated and/or deported. They have only themselves to blame.
As we are debating this, hundreds more law breakers are crossing the border each and every day. Ultimately, we are going to have to deal with the ones who are here—the ultimate challenge and priority must be—what are we going to do to stop the flow. Somehow we have to turn off the faucet. The problem that now exists is not as bad as it is going to get. It is getting worse each day and one day it will be so bad no one will even attempt to suggest a solution for there will be none.
Years ago there was a certain mental hospital with a unique way of determining if a patient was ready to rejoin society. They would take the patient to the laundry room with the faucet on and the sink overflowing with water all over the floor. They would hand the patient a mop and tell them to clean up. If the patient immediately started mopping without first turning off the faucet, they were not ready to leave. If you are in your right mind, you must first turn off the faucet. That comes first before anything else.
Deportation must be done. En masse. The sooner the better.
There needs to be a televised event where Mexicans + illegals from central America must explain to a panel of legal immigrants like me why they feel entitled to disregard the sovereign borders of the US just because Mexico shares the same landmass.
Why are they above the millions of legal immigrants who were separated from their children under more dire circumstances (e.g., Irish famine, Chinese Exclusion Act, Holocaust, communism) but were eventually reunited by making good use of the generous and legal immigration laws of the US.
*THIS* is how he survived the recall in Wisconsin and why he’s such a great candidate.
Bait him, scream at him, hang him in effigy, he just keeps calmly stating his case in simple terms anyone can understand. He makes it look easy, but it really, really isn’t.
Yeah, those psychopaths (Dems, leftists, progs, etc.) just self-destruct and blow up when people refuse to re-act the way they way you to react.
These sad stories from law breakers aren’t working anymore. I feel sorry for kids who parents who are in prison but that isn’t my fault either. I suggest these kids be made to understand that it isn’t their fault but it is that of their law breaking parents. So kids will it be foster care or Mexico? And this sad situation is all caused by your lawless parents.
Put those fakes and tools in child protective custody, or in the foster care system. They will change their minds and want to flee the country in no time flat!
Why? Why? Why? do we still allow anchor baby status and why is it never discussed? Remove it and it eliminates the oft used emotional BS about separating families.
Because it’s in the constitution, that’s why. It’s the supreme law of the land, just like your precious immigration restrictions. And changing it will require 2/3 of each house of congress and 3/4 of the state legislatures.
Scott Walker is the real deal. He handles this stuff easily in part because he proceeds from principles and doesn’t have to scramble to remember poll-tested talking points, and appears to be unflappable as a trait of personality. Being a conservative winning three elections in four years in a deep blue state has tempered him like cold water on hot steel.
And he can give speeches without the use of a teleprompter or even notes – he is pretty amazing.
But can he name all 57 states off the top of his head?
I’ll bet if anybody was willing to check deep enough they’d find Voces de la Frontera fingerprints all over this ambush. Walker Derangement Syndrome is alive and spreading.
Yep. Should have read the whole thing first.
El hombre Walker era perfecto en esa entrevista , de tono suave , agreable. I prefer the founding era’s openness to immigration. Ellis Island and the vicious anti-immigant mob voice in the 1890-1930 timefrrame, to me, is un-American. Very KKK.
Bu Walker’s point was clear to all. THE LAW is for all, no one is above it. OBAMA IS NOT ABOVE THE LAW. OBAMA’S IMMIGRANT POLICY IS LAWLESS. I completely agree.
Does Flores’ employer know he’s a criminal? Is Flores his real name?
DEPORT THEM ALL PERIOD! LEGAL OR NOT SORT IT OUT LATER
Not an option. Sorry are you going to send all the white people back to Europe, the black people to Africa, the asian people to China and the Hispanic’s to Mexico? I mean why would we stop at just Hispanic’s if we are going to clean house?
If they are illegal, yes. Tell me, if we are going to allow unlimited illegal immigration, then why do we have legal immigration?
My comment didn’t come across the way I intended it. 1willford said deport them all even if here legally. I was trying to point out that everyone immigrated here at one time or another and if we start sending LEGAL immigrants back where are we going to stop. I agree 100% about illegal immigrants being deported.