Steel cage match: Scott Walker v. Ted Cruz (Reader Poll)
Only one leaves this poll standing.
The race is on.
Scott Walker is expected by everyone to run for President, and already has formed an exploratory committee.
Ted Cruz is set to announce on Monday that he’s running, skipping the exploratory stage.
These are two Legal Insurrection favorites based on prior polling, so let’s see how it sorts out.
Steel Cage match up. Only one exits this poll standing.
If Scott Walker and Ted Cruz were the only choices, who would you choose?
Poll Open until Midnight (Pacific Time) on Monday, March 23, 2015
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I like Ted Cruz but I want him to stay in the Senate to keep a burr under the GOP saddle. Scott Walker has a proven track record of taking on the established Dems and winning I think he can do great things for America.
I agree with your sentiment that Ted Cruz would continue to be a force in the Senate, but his message coming from the Presidential office would do far more to re-direct the national focus of government.
Just look at how much Obama has degraded things with his message.
I also want Walker because governors have executive experience. Lack of Executive experience is something we are familiar with in this President who seems to learn so much from the newspapers.
Yessireebob, Governor Carter and Governor Clinton are shining examples of the ‘experience’ brought to the presidency.
And IMHO, Senator Truman was one fine president. Never was a governor.
“I like Ted Cruz but I want him to stay in the Senate to keep a burr under the GOP saddle.”
Normally I would agree with you but there now are very powerful, self-serving forces (McConnell, Boehner, Oren Hatch, Rove, Bush, the Rep/Dem Combine) with lots of money who are actively undermining elected conservatives and making the cost of their re-elections for conservatives prohibitive.
I think this is the last chance we have for us to remain a republic in actuality. So consider the Cruz candidacy as a Hail Mary Pass for the Republic vs the DC established barnacles.
Cruz first, but Walker is a good second choice.
I agree with all that. Head to head Walker is no match for The Great Oriator but he is a good man nonetheless unless the RINOS infect him.
I like them both a lot and would be pleased with either one. I think Walker might be more electable and could carry Michigan which would be quite an electoral victory for us, but when the question is which I would prefer to have serve as our president, I had to choose Cruz, but by a very tiny margin.
I meant to say Wisconsin, but I was also thinking of Michigan, which just re-elected Snyder for his second term by a 51-47 margin against a ‘rat opponent who came on strong and stayed strong.
If Walker can carry WI and MI, he can probably carry OH, too. NH and ME could probably be his, too, and he’d walk away with the South and the entire lower Midwest farm belt, and NM just re-elected Susan Martinez. There’s a good chance of Walker winning in a landslide, actually, with solid red across the country except the West coast, IL, most of the Northeast, and possibly IA and PA. Not so much for Cruz. He would have a tougher fight of it.
Cruz’s electability isn’t as strong as Walker’s because he doesn’t have a governing record to run on nor has he had to fight like Walker has had to do.
But electability wasn’t the poll question. 🙂
Also, the Left/Media/DNC will attempt to demonize our nominee no matter who it is, as they’ve tried with every one since Reagan.
Walker has already been examined with searchlights mounted on a colonoscope, if he had any polyps they would have been used against him already in Wisconsin. Cruz is unknown; he may not have any skeletons at all, but it will still be easier to scare people about a man who most who don’t recognize him assume is a televangelist.
The lockstep fanaticism of some of his supporters may scare some people, too. The Paulbots were easily laughed off, in contrast.
You can’t help but admire what Walker has accomplished in a blue state against nasty and determined opposition.
No choice here. It had to be Walker. I don’t consider Cruz eligible.
Cruz’s mother was an American citizen and he was granted American citizenship at the time of his birth.
Its the same reason Obama is a US citizen.
Can I do a thumbs up and a thumbs down on this one?
Sure you can, I won’t really care either way.
Was it a thumbs up for being Pro-Cruz and a thumbs down for proving Obama’s eligibility?
One Rule to rule them all!
According to Article II Section V: No Person except a NATURAL born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President. Caesarian births weren’t common practice in the 1700’s, so I’m pretty sure they were referring to the citizenship of the parents at the time the child was born.
Both parents must be the citizens of, and the birth must take place in the concerned country, assuming that the citizenship inherited by this child and the loyalty are never changed ever after. Ref: Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 1875:
And why would that be? Cruz was an American citizen the moment he was born.
I actually want a Walker/Cruz ticket. As I’ve said here before Walker needs Cruz’s fire and Cruz needs Walker’s diplomacy, for lack of a better word.
Accidently gave you a thumbs down. Sorry. There are no ‘diplomatic ties’ with enemies of the US Constitution.
Executive Branch needs an executive.
This. Governors have the best odds of being good Presidents.
Jimmy Carter was a Governor.
So was Bill Clinton (whose presidency/economy came out looking better because of the conservative actions forced on Billary by GOP Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich)
Governors do not necessarily make good and wise presidents.
“For President: Scott Walker or Ted Cruz?”
YES! Pleeeeeezzzze…!!!
Some knuckleheads at Breitbart are trying to knock out Scott Walker. My comment to them was on the lines of: keep pushing for your idea of perfection and the only candidate left will be Jeb Bush.
Good for you. Let Cruz & Walker tag-team the RINO field until only they remain.
Perfect is the enemy of good.
Finally not being faced with a lesser of two evils choice. Either of them. Both of them. Flip a coin. Let the best man win.
I’m with Rags. Q: Walker or Cruz? A: Yes.
Remember Reagan’s 11th commandment.
I would vote for either – better P and VP, or P and SC….regardless, time to bringsome sense back to the world!
Best
I just pray that one of these two men is our next President.
Soon the media will be working to Palin-ize Walker. He pinched a girl’s butt on the playground in the 4th grade…war on women, therefore he can’t be POTUS. Then Letterman will talk about how he doesn’t follow politics, but thinks a guy like that is probably not the best decision maker and do a top ten list about night school options for him to finish college They’ll rehash how he didn’t finish college and the elites will pretend to be all concerned about the qualifications of someone who can’t be bothered to finish a degree.
It’s astonishing how much money the media leaves on the table by spitting at America and Americans.
I agree……it is going to be absolutely sickening to see the MSM wake up and start digging into every…little…bit…of…minutia…about his life and back story. We will find out that he ate all the cereal in his Lucky Charms before eating the marshmallows and we just can’t have someone that is that exclusive-minded to be our President and why gosh! I heard that he once colored outside the lines (gasp!) in kindergarten and that is why we don’t need a poopie-headed stinko that never finished college to be our President. Besides, he has cooties and picks his nose.
Take on media outlets thus their articles face to face on twitter. If not a twitter whiz read twitchy.com for ideas and what to tweet-smack or retweet. I don’t use twitter for the sake of twitter, I use it like a political weapon system as does the liberals & their lapdog media outlets, right Professor?
You know they’ll quote you, and use this comment post as a reference….. 😉
I want both. Either or as president and the other as VP.
Scott Walker is an excellent manager and Ted Cruz is a honest, principled man. Putting both of them on the same ticket would result in an unstoppable juggernaut that would obliterate all competition.
I hope that they both come to the same conclusion and team up.
Also… if they could make Sheriff Joe Arpaio head of either the DOJ or Department of Homeland security, I’d be very happy with that too. Either or. Put Sheriff David Clarke Jr. in the other position.
Just imagining that happening makes me giggle inside.
Nirvana….
It would be nice to see Cruz replace Ginsburg on the SCOTUS rather than serving in elected office. That’s another dream.
Agree 100% about Arpaio and Clarke. There’s another sheriff that needs to be brought into the fold as well and that’s Sheriff Paul Babeu of Pinal County, AZ. He was the first ‘pub sheriff ever elected in that county and was re-elected in ’12 (I think). He considered a run for congress a couple years ago. He’s a real interesting, tough, conservative guy and would be a fine director of BATF or DHS.
Babeu got burned real bad in a scandal a few years back if I remember right. Papers were having a field day over it.
I would vote for either of them for Pres or Vice Pres, but Sheriff Joe Arpaio would be needed in the Dept of Justice. DHS needs to be shut down.
Walker/Martinez.
Two governors. Lots of executive experience. Lots of experience defeating Democrats.
Martinez provides double bonus of female and Hispanic.
I’m utterly, totally, completely, opposed to any more identity, affirmative action, election.
There is nothing “affirmative action” about having a successful former governor run as President. Perhaps you need to get rid of a certain hint of male chauvinism?
But… But… Your double bonus comment. Besides, Cruz is half Cuban.
Susana Martinez won a huge landslide re-election this past November. She’s been hugely successful in NM lowering taxes and stimulating business investment there. She carried 58% of the vote and for the first time in about 60 years the ‘pubs took control of the NM House. There were no NM Senate elections in ’14, so it’s still in the hands of the ‘rats. Brian Sandoval of NV was re-elected governor with a whopping 70% of the vote and ushered in a ‘pub majority in both houses of the state legislature. For the first time in about 90 years, ‘pubs hold both legislative chambers and the governor’s office.
Identity politics have infiltrated our increasingly balkanized country, thanks to the media, the courts, obola and LBJ. That can only be reversed back to E Pluribus Unum through slow, calculated assimilation and enlightening of these people that have come here, most with nothing to offer, by showing them a better way. The only way to do that is to get elected, open the floodgates of entrepreneurship, investment, initiative and industry, then slowly tightening the noose on unlimited entitlements and ridiculous, race-based special programs and handouts. The ‘rats will never do that.
I agree with what you wish for, but it is not the reality of what we have available to work with.
We don’t need a national conversation about individual views on race and identity. We need a national conversation about the personal pride of achievement, personal accountability, and personal initiative as a demonstrable message. We have to establish the infrastructure underpinning opportunity to do that, hand-in-hand with delivering the message. We can’t change the rules of engagement without the authority and power to do so. That means getting elected, come Hell or high water.
Well put. There’s a lot to like about Martinez.
I hate identity politics, too. But the reality is it means a lot to a lot of people.
In these times, her being a woman and Hispanic are electoral advantages.
That all aside, her life story is inspiring and full of success.
A friend of mine since childhood knows Governor Sandoval well. As freshly minted lawyers they worked together. At his inauguration her colleagues were blown away when he spotted her and called her over to talk. Both he and Martinez should have good futures in the party.
If we save the country, so we can give it to illegal aliens, what good have we done. I think Cruz is somewhat better on illegal aliens.
“For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and forfeit his soul?”
My concern is that they split the conservative vote and allow an unprincipled squish to win the nomination. That is the last thing we need.
At this point, these are my top two candidates, but I wish only one would run. That appears unlikely, so I’ll hope that one of these two emerges as the clear winner, and the other bows out gracefully, and in a position to make a strong run in the future.
Laura Ingraham has voiced the same concern vis-a-vis Jeb Bush as the one that walks with the spoils…. But talking a candidate out of running for president…. tough thing…. they all have a fire in the belly…. Geo. Washington quit after 2 terms for the sake of the country…. not sure any of these men see it clearly enough.
It’s very, very early. Perhaps they will come to a different course of action in time to save the republic.
“My concern is that they split the conservative vote and allow an unprincipled squish to win the nomination. That is the last thing we need.”
It’s okay. You can say “Jeb Bush;” we know what you mean. (And I share your concern.)
Anyone but a Democrat and Jeb Bush.
I’m with Cruz. I want a balls-to-the-wall conservative president. No compromises anymore. I agree that Walker is a proven executive but don’t believe this qualification is absolute, nor that Cruz, as sharp and capable as he obviously is, can’t also prove a fine executive. I think Cruz would lay waste to Common Core, obliterate the IRS, zero out a few other federal agencies, and put the media and the PC legions on their back feet.
You mean I have to choose between them? Can’t we find a way to mutate both of them into one perfect candidate?!
Cruz just announced on Twitter that he’s running.
Tough choice, but I had to go with Walker….he has the bonafides of dealing with nasty unions and has a background that is squeaky clean. Cruz will face nonstop criticizm for the question of citizenship (Ironic, huh?) and the brouhaha will prevent the message from reaching the 53%. Besides, we need a guy like Cruz in the Senate to keep Miss Lindsey and Mayor McCheese McCain occupied with whacko bird watching.
I don’t agree with your final choice, but you make many fine points.
Too close to call at this point. So two thumbs up for both Cruz and Walker.
And two thumbs up the ass for Boehner and McConnell.
Walker will be more appealing to the many middle information voters who don’t have a strong party affiliation. These people don’t follow politics that closely between elections but they do pay attention in presidential election years. Many of them are now saying they want an anti-Obama. With his background of hard fought experience over ivy covered credentials Walker fits the bill.
Have we met? 🙂 I like both these men, and I have to confess I have more respect for Walker simply because he does not have an Ivy League degree. If that makes sense.
Both are good men and have incredible strengths. Obviously Walker was able to take everything the vicious Democrat union thugs threw at him (3 times!) and survive. Cruz, as an extraordinary brilliant Constitutional conservative will be able to run rings around the RINOs the GOP Establishment puts up – I’m talking about that Democrat in GOP sheep’s clothing, Jeb Bush. Whatever so-called “weaknesses” anyone labels them with will be meaningless by the time Jan. 2017 rolls around. Too many people are clueless at just how vulnerable Obama has made the U.S. – domestically and in foreign policy.
(I’d like to see Cruz stay in the Senate though…he can continue to damage the old GOP Estab. and turn things around.)
Walker would be good on the economy, but we need more than that – much more. Ted would give us that.
How much lib media heat will Ted Cruz take off of Scott Walker?
Could we wind up with a likable and amiable pres. Walker and a Cheney redux with VP Cruz? Their compbined ages would be only slightly more than Hillary’s
Two problems with Cruz or could be. He has voted with establishment a lot and his wife either still works or did work for Gold Sachs.
I believe that she will be taking a leave of absence to assist with the campaign. I wonder what she would do if he was elected. Would it be possible for the First Lady to have a separate career?
If I was married to POTUS, why on earth would I want a separate career?!
Being First Lady is a job, in and of itself!
And they have young children. Can’t he afford for her to stay home with them? I don’t understand her at all.
I want Cruz. But there is no way the GOP will let that happen.
Walker is the best I could hope for. He is also the least I will give my vote to. If the GOP can’t give Walker the nomination, I will be campaigning for the Constitution Party.
I flipped a coin and voted for Walker. Either one would be great, but I don’t see the GOP elites allowing anyone other than another #$%^&* RINO on the ticket >:O
The GOP elites didn’t want Reagan in 1980, but we got him, thankfully.
The poll should include an option “Either of the above”, which would probably capture 90% of the votes.
Walker for President. He has low profile (humility) appeal. And, with his tenure as WI governor he understands the cause and effect of government policies.
Cruz can continue to be the conscious of the Senate until he becomes president…down the road.
I meant “conscience”, not “conscious”. I have no doubt Ted Cruz is conscious…of the Senate.
(I can’t work and think at the same time. Shhh. Don’t tell my boss.)
I’d be ecstatic with either one. Went with Cruz because he announced first, but Walker has the executive experience. He’s also PWN’d the teachers’ union in WI. Cruz drives the Left insane but so does Walker, so in my head it’s pretty much a draw. They’d be unbelievable together (unfortunately the GOP would never permit this) or as a 1-2 punch with Walker as pres. and Cruz as the conservative Senate agitator.
Here we go again. Cheering for candidates with big personalities but ZERO executive experience in governing, zero experience in dealing with the Media Complex, zero record for advancing economic freedom.
The difference between Cruz and Walker is the difference between a business owner who puts out a product that only he will like but won’t sell and one who puts out a product that he might not like but will sell.
Walker for President.
Love Cruz, but two obvious points to make.
No Senators.
No one in their first term.
Steel cage match? The choice is obvious:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/ted_cruz_poster.jpg
I was 25 when Reagan took office, and well remember how both the network and print news media and the GOP insiders tried to paint him as some trigger-happy cowboy who’d get us all killed by Russian missiles. The same will be said about Cruz – again, by his own party. Good.
I also remember being in love with two girls at the same time, and that is how this poll made me feel.
I was just a wee bit older when Reagan took office in 1981. (“Wee”, she said.)
I agree with your assessment of the media. It gets beside itself around principled people and hyperbolic for a headline. In Reagan’s case, he was too handsome to be ignored and he said things rarely heard in those days. He came out shooting with self-deprecating humor and pointed truths about the current political scene that the news media loved to broker.
But, I can’t say that I felt the same exact way and with the same memories as you did about the poll.
I defer to Shakespeare in matters of love….
“Cupid is a knavish lad, thus to make females mad”
A Midsummer Night’s Dream
I like both as well, but chose Cruz. He seems to have the “it” factor which is hard to put into words. I heard him speak in person, but haven’t heard Walker – maybe that is why I think that.
They both fight – which is what I want more than anything!
The public union problem is a great campaign issue, as so many states are burdened with these dirty union deals, and even non-union liberals seem to get that, if WI is any example.
Walker needs to be clear about border control, while avoiding “self deport” type language (even if true). It’s cultural suicide to allow foreigners that break our laws to vote and demand entitlements. (or some strong stance against open border PC mentality, as if we owe the world). Maybe something about needing to employ poor black America before we invite the rest of poor Central America. Strong country must have strong border.
International affairs … recognize the spread of geopolitical adversary Russia and their allies, and the Obama/Hillary surrenders (Romney was right). Walker has no leg up on Cruz here, except unions have solidarity with Che, and hate James Madison. In that sense Walker has faced down the domestic arm of “communism”. (And he can see Canada from his house … being a Republican, he has to avoid any claim to international experience, while adroitly skewering Dem’s on it)
Madison, WI provides a nice segue. “Vices of the Political System”, Madison delineates this argument clearly.
http://www.alleghenyinstitute.org/americas-biggest-mistake/
The apparently illegal John Doe investigations give Walker another soapbox to stand on, to decry use of bureaucracy as an enemy of a free republic. That covers IRS assaults, Ferguson race card, EPA CO2 pollutant farce, commie core coercion of states, pass it to find out what’s in it, etc.
Walker has faced “live fire” where he was running a state being undermined by unions and Democrats, facing recall and John Doe prosecution, and “winning”. Cruz has faced the hot air of Reid and backstabbing of Boehner, but it is all inside the beltway theatrics. Debates will make both stronger, and one should emerge as our candidate.
Ted Cruz and Scott Walker! I’m putting my $ and my vote on Ted!
The Republic is surely on its last legs. Cruz is obviously not a natural-born citizen; neither is Rubio or Jindal. We are so corrupted that the plain language of the law no longer matters, even on a supposedly conservative legal blog. Substance and principles no longer matter. Worship of the exotic reigns, which is nothing more than an adoption of modern liberal-progressive hatred for America and American values.
OK all you GOP lay abouts, I have your answer for a 2016 election win.
First, why does it have to be an either/or vote for Walker/Cruz? Let’s rock & shock those liberal progressive snakes in 2016! Let’s have Walker and Cruz get married and then it doesn’t matter who is elected, they can drag the other one into the WH with them!
The GOP would loose some of it’s base during the election, but the dismal Democrats would take up the slack on that problem.